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I'm getting a bit scared of taking my beauty on track following some very close shaves (not due to me I might add) at the last trackday. I have a K3 7500 mile SV at home nearly ready to flog and it'd be a waste to track that. Can I have some ideas about what I should be considering with regards to how much to pay, what to get etc. I'm even considering sticking a towbar on the girlfriends Ka (Don't). I'm thinking of an older SV that I don't need to love too much but have heard the suspension on these is probably worth doing up which is more cost. I'm a bit confused.
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lukemillar
20-08-08, 12:56 AM
I'm getting a bit scared of taking my beauty on track following some very close shaves (not due to me I might add) at the last trackday. I have a K3 7500 mile SV at home nearly ready to flog and it'd be a waste to track that. Can I have some ideas about what I should be considering with regards to how much to pay, what to get etc. I'm even considering sticking a towbar on the girlfriends Ka (Don't). I'm thinking of an older SV that I don't need to love too much but have heard the suspension on these is probably worth doing up which is more cost. I'm a bit confused.
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Lot of people recommend the old steely CBR's for track bikes. TBH, I would get an already prepped bike as there is big savings to be had rather than doing it yourself.
I would love to get a track bike - either convert my Daytona or buy an already converted GSXR-750 k4-5. Those would be my 2 choices :)
For example:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/suzuki-gsxr-750-k4-5-track-bike-race-yoshimura-pc3-dqs_W0QQitemZ270264624092QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item2 70264624092&_trkparms=72%3A984%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C2 40%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Well I actually went for the Daytona knowing I'd be doing trackdays on it but feel a bit limited when it comes to pushing it i.e. I don't want to cos of the possible repairs cost. Maybe I'll get rid of the SV and look at my bank account. I was hoping to move this year but I don't think that's gonna happen now. A mate might still have his R or S reg (I think) ZX6R which I know what's wrong and right with. Would that be a safe bet? As I mentioned it'd be nice to be able to use on the road too.
mister c
20-08-08, 05:49 AM
My son has an FZR400 for sale if you are interested :)
I think he wants about £850 - £900
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y177/croozenooze/2008_0625mallorytest0004.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y177/croozenooze/2008_0625mallorytest0036.jpg
Steely CBR600. Mine's not for sale because it's too much fun. We've done 10 trackdays this year together and it's been lent out to two trackday instructors for another 5 days on track. They will hold their own in the fast group in the right hands.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3146/2378183758_8ce88d11d7_b.jpg
As for preperation, I made money from prepping mine - I sold all the road gear like lights, mirrors, indicators, l/h switchgear etc on ebay and bought a new set of Rennsports. That left me 30 quid up. I blanked off the headlight hole with a bit of broken gixer fairing I had kicking around. The forks benefit from 15W oil with the same air-gap, that stops them diving on the brakes too much and makes the rebound more controllable. My shock is tired so I lashed out 75 quid on a used Maxton that will require a 200 quid rebuild, but that's still much cheaper than any aftermarket budget shock worth buying and I get the bonus of the rebuild and adjustability of a quality unit. The only other thing I did was fit some crashbungs from a guy on ebay, they were half the cost of R+Gs and I've seen them work just as well on crashed racebikes.
As it stands my CBR owes me about 450 quid but that will increase when the shock goes in. It's still a dirt cheap way of getting on track, because you'd spend twice that much rebuilding after a simple low-side on your Daytona.
Dangerous Dave
20-08-08, 07:03 AM
As already mentioned, a good steel framed CBR is a good choice for a track day bike.
you can have my ZXR400 L if u want
the_lone_wolf
20-08-08, 08:33 AM
I'm even considering sticking a towbar on the girlfriends Kayou can't fit a towbar to a ford ka, as it's not type approved for towing, if you did find a way of fitting one your insurers would laugh at you if you had an accident whilst towing...
plus you'd be mad to abuse one like that:smt103
My 1 litre Micra used to tow a trailer with a 17 foot sailing dinghy on it when my ex owned it. Silly mare removed the towbar and took it to Australia with her because she was looking to buy a Micra over there. Turns out they are few and far between and quite pricey, so she ended up with a Ford Festival. I'm hoping she brings the towbar back with her when she visits later in the year, so I can trailer my trackbike around.
you can have my ZXR400 L if u want
Pics ;) Price?
You can pick up a higher milage 2003 600RR for £2500ish now possibly even less, thats another option I guess.
Cant go wrong with them and they are supposed to be bullet proof even if they have been ragged with no maintenance, 2005/2006 ones can be for £3500 - £4000 with high mileage and they have improved suspension and midrange over the 2003/2004.
Would be ashame to not use the 675, as thats what its built for, can appreciate the worry though after the nutters at the weekend.
the_lone_wolf
20-08-08, 09:02 AM
My 1 litre Micra used to tow a trailer with a 17 foot sailing dinghy on it when my ex owned it.
i'm not saying the car couldn't tow it, but you have to admit the performance would be somewhat "sedate";)
it would be illegal to fit a towbar to a ford ka because it hasn't been type approved to tow, there won't be any fitting points on the chassis and you'd be uninsured if you did a DIY job
You can get good track bikes ready prepped from ebay or other more sprots bike orientated forums for £1000-£1500.
I am going to do the same as you , me and my mate are going to go halfs on one, store it at mine ( 5 min form Castle Combe track) and then when wither one wants it take it out.
I wont bother insuring it or having it on the road at all, it will purely be a track bike.
Teriyakimonkey - I know what you mean about the worries, I'm hoping to go to Rockingham next month for my first trackday and I'm a little worried about taking my gixxer (which I can't afford to replace at the moment) on the track with no insurance. The wife's not overly happy about it either but she's seen me survive the Nurburgring so is a little calmed by that.
I personally think you'll have more fun riding your Daytona at 80-90% of it's / your capability than riding an old bike at closer to 100% of it's / your capability. And you're probably less likely to crash as well!
Cheers,
Matt
chunkytfg
20-08-08, 11:53 AM
My SV700 race bike is up for sale in the forsale section
I personally think you'll have more fun riding your Daytona at 80-90% of it's / your capability than riding an old bike at closer to 100% of it's / your capability. And you're probably less likely to crash as well!
Cheers,
Matt
+1
SoulKiss
20-08-08, 12:22 PM
Stop being a big girl
i was talking to a guy at calne bike show, he had a stall and was selling 5-6 cbr600 race prepped, he said they are ideal bikes for the track. and thats all he uses, he also runs track days.......... oh and a bonus they were all ready painted yellow
i will try to find his no.
fastdruid
20-08-08, 01:03 PM
you can't fit a towbar to a ford ka, as it's not type approved for towing, if you did find a way of fitting one your insurers would laugh at you if you had an accident whilst towing...
plus you'd be mad to abuse one like that:smt103
What he said, they brought in type aproval in IIRC 2000 or 1999, any car made after then has to be type approved for a tow bar.
There are some strange cases out there where there is a tow bar available but you can only (legally) fit it to certain years as the model came out before type aproval[1]..
I bought a mondeo estate purely for towing bikes to trackdays, 1850kg towing capacity, enough room in the back for all the kit and *still* seat 5 in comfort (I went with the leather and all the toys).
Anyway, back to trackbikes.
NC35 or CBR600 if you want more power.
SV650 while ace fun needs a fair bit doing to get up to a std NC35, even when you have a minitwin you still run the risk of some annoying bloke on a road NC35 come flying past[2]. :-)
CBR6 is faster but not as good a handler. Cheap as chips though and plenty of them about.
If I didn't have my track SV I'd be *very* happy with the NC35, as it is though I have both! :cool:
Druid
[1] For example the ford puma.
[2] Sorry guys!
the_lone_wolf
20-08-08, 01:05 PM
What he said, they brought in type aproval in IIRC 2000 or 1999, any car made after then has to be type approved for a tow bar.
type approval arrived in 1998
fastdruid
20-08-08, 01:18 PM
type approval arrived in 1998
Close enough. ;) :D
Druid
Caveat Emptor...
How much are you planning on spending 1-1.5k should get something reasonable, Worth hanging out in the wanted section of Visor Down - always someone with a "I want a track bike" thread.
Plus1 for a CBR6 or zx6?
(I know nothing)
Wouldn't bother with a 400 - they're for migits
I personally think you'll have more fun riding your Daytona at 80-90% of it's / your capability than riding an old bike at closer to 100% of it's / your capability. And you're probably less likely to crash as well!
Absolute tosh.
You'll never ride anywhere near your true capabilities if you are always thinking about the cost of crashing and that means you won't be learning anything. The whole point of doing a trackday is to go as fast as you possibly can and learn how to go even faster, and if you hold back because of a fear of crashing your shiny bike then you're doing yourself down every time. 80-0% of your capability is a million miles away from enjoying it. I say get an older and possibly slower bike - the fun you can have hooning a slightly less capable bike round a circuit is absolutely immense. I have the biggest grin ever when my ratty old CBR600 gets past yet another Gixer Thou or R1, and I don't really give a monkey's if I throw it into the gravel, as long as I don't take someone else with me.
Zombie Jesus
20-08-08, 01:41 PM
I'd say track your daytona and have something cheap and/or boring for the road :p
jimmy__riddle
20-08-08, 01:58 PM
a zxr750 with highish miles can be had for <1000, good handling bike, and the zx-9r engine fits in with almost no modification. cheap and good handling right out the box.
fastdruid
20-08-08, 04:04 PM
Caveat Emptor...
How much are you planning on spending 1-1.5k should get something reasonable, Worth hanging out in the wanted section of Visor Down - always someone with a "I want a track bike" thread.
Plus1 for a CBR6 or zx6?
(I know nothing)
Wouldn't bother with a 400 - they're for migits
There speaks someone who's never riden one round a track.
I've ridden a CBR6, CBR6RR, NC30, NC35, ZX-6R, thundercat, R6 and SV650S round cadwell.
The SV650 and NC30 were modified so unfair to compare them, out of the standard bikes the NC35 was the best of the lot. Second was the CBR600RR followed by the CBR600 then the ZX-6R followed by the R6 then thundercat.
Druid
There speaks someone who's never riden one round a track.
Not entirely true, unless I was hallucinating Sosha at Brands on her CBR400 (but you weren't to know that ;) )
But then, Monkeyboy is quite a large fellow, so something 600 ish may fit him better than a 400 (Although all things being equal I would love an NC30 or 35 as a dedicated track bike)
fastdruid
20-08-08, 04:13 PM
Not entirely true, unless I was hallucinating Sosha at Brands on her CBR400 (but you weren't to know that ;) )
But then, Monkeyboy is quite a large fellow, so something 600 ish may fit him better than a 400 (Although all things being equal I would love an NC30 or 35 as a dedicated track bike)
A fair point. A mate of mine was 6'2" and he looked silly on an NC30. Still fantastic bikes and IMO better than the 600's on the track.
Druid
Tim in Belgium
20-08-08, 05:17 PM
I'm with ZJ on this, track the 675, if you crash it fix it. I was speaking to a well known 'Ringer at the weekend and his philosophy was that you can fix most track bike crashes for £1k, as long as you're not too bothered about returning it to bang on original/pristine condition. This includes complete new front ends :shock:
Also you're unlikely to use the 675's full potential on the road, especially in the handling stakes. After a few more TDs you'll be quicker and more confident, no worries about those people coming passed as you'll be doing the passing. Each to their own though if you can't bring yourself to track the 675 in anger.
I'll look silly then as I'm 6'2".
After what has been said about towing with a Ka I probably won't go that way as it'd also cost another 400 or 500 quid on top of a bike.
Can anyone else vouch for the ZXR750?
Dangerous Dave
20-08-08, 05:42 PM
I'd say yes to a ZX7R....
http://www.racingreynolds7r.co.uk/assets/thumbnails/spec/zx7rr.jpg
....rather than a ZXR750 personally.
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery/Kawasaki%20ZXR750L%2093%20%202.jpg
That top pic is a ZX7RR, with the adjustable swingarm pivot. Nice bike.
I know what you all mean about using the Daytona on track it's just that I don't really want to bin a bike I care about and that is a goodun. Plus the parts aren't as readily available or reasonably priced as others.
You never know, I might sell the SV and the Daytona and get out of debt!
He he. (Not likely).
gettin2dizzy
20-08-08, 06:18 PM
I know what you all mean about using the Daytona on track it's just that I don't really want to bin a bike I care about and that is a goodun. Plus the parts aren't as readily available or reasonably priced as others.
You never know, I might sell the SV and the Daytona and get out of debt!
He he. (Not likely).Out of the 1-2k you'd spend on a track bike, how about just track the 'track-focussed' daytona ;) and:
put £700 in an account in case you bin it
spend the other ~£1k on lessons/trackdays/pints
Out of the 1-2k you'd spend on a track bike, how about just track the 'track-focussed' daytona ;) and:
put £700 in an account in case you bin it
spend the other ~£1k on lessons/trackdays/pints
+1 : that's what I'd do. For the amount you would spend on a trackbike + getting it to and from the track, you could just save the money, hope for the best but have the money to fix it if you did bin it.
Sorry Lozzo, I don't agree with you :p I got a huge high from riding my new gixxer round the Nurburgring at 90% of my capability (ie, inside my comfort zone). I'd always leave something in reserve, even on an older bike so why not just ride the bike you like?
Obviously, if Teriyakimonkey (or anyone who does quite a few trackdays) has plenty of funds to get a dedicated trackbike, then fine :). I just think if you're stretching yourself to buy a ratty old bike you don't really like you're better off just keeping one and saving the money for repairs.
All of the above posted bikes don'e look like ratty old bikes though! :cool:
Cheers,
Matt
Tim in Belgium
21-08-08, 09:21 AM
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Sorry Lozzo, I don't agree with you :p I got a huge high from riding my new gixxer round the Nurburgring at 90% of my capability (ie, inside my comfort zone). I'd always leave something in reserve, even on an older bike so why not just ride the bike you like?
......
Once you've done a couple more laps there and get to know the place you'll start to push a bit more :)
Once you've done a couple more laps there and get to know the place you'll start to push a bit more :)
Exactly, I know my comfort zone will increase with time on track and until that time I'm happy to ride round slower and still get lots of pleasure from it. As I said, I'd just always leave something in reserve, even on a dedicated track-bike, but if sh!t happens, it happens! :p
Thanks for your ideas and suggestions folks.
I've decided a pure track bike is out of the question due to the cost of trailer etc even if I could tow it. But...
I spoke to matey today and he's just about to put his bike up for sale. ZX6R, 1998, 19K miles, serviced well, two new tyres, full system and steering damper + I know where it's been and what little there is wrong with it. I'm seriously considering it as I could use it as my winter bike, maybe get the missus on the back, would be more comfortable for long trips and I really wouldn't be bothered if it got mullered. I'd be much happier doing that than getting an unknown. That seem like a good idea? If so what seems a reasonable price?
the_lone_wolf
21-08-08, 08:20 PM
have you thought of or tried supermoto?
relatively cheap trackdays compared to normal ones, think £50 for a whole day with as much time on track you want. the bikes are also quite cheap, and they are designed to be flung down a track and just carry one
might not be the same experience, but i'm loving it right now, something to try out?
metalmonkey
22-08-08, 06:36 AM
Dude do you still have the SV or have you sold that yet?
If you have the Sv then put that on track! It makes good sense, you strip and sell the road parts ect and put some race fairings on it, change the springs at the front, some rear sets thats about it really to get going, may be a race a can.
I could be presuade to let people loan my van, your near by anyway. Thats my suggestion it won't cost much if you have the bike, it will be way fast enough to start with.
I would get yout fairings from somewhere like JHS racing, who cares if they look crap, its track bike, its meant to have tape holding it togther;)
lukemillar
22-08-08, 07:11 AM
Thanks for your ideas and suggestions folks.
I've decided a pure track bike is out of the question due to the cost of trailer etc even if I could tow it. But...
I spoke to matey today and he's just about to put his bike up for sale. ZX6R, 1998, 19K miles, serviced well, two new tyres, full system and steering damper + I know where it's been and what little there is wrong with it. I'm seriously considering it as I could use it as my winter bike, maybe get the missus on the back, would be more comfortable for long trips and I really wouldn't be bothered if it got mullered. I'd be much happier doing that than getting an unknown. That seem like a good idea? If so what seems a reasonable price?
ok - why don't you pick up a second set of Daytona fairings? There are loads going for sale on ebay and you could pick up a set for a couple of hundred quid. That's what I have since I still have to keep it road legal to get to the track. Takes me about an hour to swap it all round (It is a big help if you can get a tail with a rear light and front cowl w/headlights)
I even threw this into the gravel a couple of weeks back and just scratched already scrapped up plastic. Looks hideous, but when I get back, and swap it back over - looks good as new again! My last crash cost me nothing to fix!
Blue_SV650S
22-08-08, 06:50 PM
What is your budget?
A 600 is the best track tool. If you have ~£1k to spend, get an old steelie x-race bike. If you have £2k you can get an SRAD Gixer (x-race bike) ... £3k and you are talking some 1/2 decent kit!! 8)
£5k and you can get whatever you want (within reason). :)
I think its diminishing returns after the ~£2k mark as I doubt the performance differences will be notable/of much use to you.
To my mind, you need a bike you can accept you might not come home with ... so the <£2k bike makes the most sense!! (unless you don't mind throwing £5k away ... but if that was the case you wouldn't mind slinging your road bike ;)).
Thanks for your ideas and suggestions folks.
I've decided a pure track bike is out of the question due to the cost of trailer etc even if I could tow it. But...
I spoke to matey today and he's just about to put his bike up for sale. ZX6R, 1998, 19K miles, serviced well, two new tyres, full system and steering damper + I know where it's been and what little there is wrong with it. I'm seriously considering it as I could use it as my winter bike, maybe get the missus on the back, would be more comfortable for long trips and I really wouldn't be bothered if it got mullered. I'd be much happier doing that than getting an unknown. That seem like a good idea? If so what seems a reasonable price?
£1500
Sell the SV & the 675, get out of debt & have the 6R as your only bike road legal & track it. :D
Very good idea
Here's where I am now. The track only bike is out of the window due to transport etc. I considered the Stu route and nearly went for it but decided against it as I am getting out of debt at a healthy enough rate anyway. I've offered my mate a price for the ZX6R to be used as my long mileage/winter/two up/definately-wet track day bike and am keeping the Daytona for best and dry trackdays. That's what I got it it for but so far have used it everywhere. I'll be using the money I have left from selling the SV to get a full set of levers and more protection for the Daytona. Just waiting to see if matey likes the price I offered for his bike. It was fair but not totally embarrassing.
Luke I have got a set of trackday fairings off ebay for £50. Genuine Triumph ones. It's a bit of a pain keep changing them but I can live with that. Haven't got a tank of headlight fairing though.
Lovely.
BTW in case anyone was interested you can't have a normal MOT and a daylight MOT. I thought that might be a solution but as some trackdays are miles away and transport is a problem it's a no go due to the early mornings.
:monkey:
fastdruid
23-08-08, 01:31 AM
BTW in case anyone was interested you can't have a normal MOT and a daylight MOT. I thought that might be a solution but as some trackdays are miles away and transport is a problem it's a no go due to the early mornings.
:monkey:
There is no such thing as a daylight MOT.
There is an MOT.
What people call a 'daylight' MOT is a normal MOT with an advisory notice that there are no lights fitted at the time of the test.
From the MOT manual (this section for head/tail lights but the others say the same thing).
http://www.motuk.co.uk/mcmanual_110.htm
This inspection applies to: all machines, except those which have neither front nor rear position lamps, or have such lamps permanently disconnected, painted over or masked that are
. only used during daylight hours, and
. not used at times of seriously reduced visibility
If this situation occurs the machine presenter should be issued with a VT32 (advisory notice) recording the above.
Druid
So where does one stand with a headlight and rear light that is removeable?
Where does a classic scooter lie also without indicators?
Biker Biggles
23-08-08, 08:09 AM
Indicators are not required for driving at night so are not relevant to the "daylight only" thing.If they are fitted they have to work,but if not fitted it wont matter.
As for the OP.
There was a race CBR 600 Steelie for sale on VD,with spares for £1700
It s the club championship winning bike and would be a bit of a bargain I thought.Dunno if its still available.
A good mate of mine has an ex-race GSXR600 K2 for sale if anyone is interested.
Spec is: 122bhp Slick Bass tuned engine, no V5 as never been road regd, Has done Manx in 2006 (112mph lap) and the odd circuit race since, comes with Ohlins rear that was new for the '06 Manx, Maxton sorted front forks, Valter Moto rearses, Brembo m/cyl, spare wets on wheels with discs and a handful of levers and other spares etc. It would benefit from a new set of plastics as the ones it wears are tired and painted a horrible colour.
I've worked on the bike and it really is a great piece of kit for the serious trackday nut without spending too much dosh. If it wasn't for the fact I already have a trackbike I love to bits, I'd buy it for myself. Bike is in Cheltenham if anyone wishes to view it.
£1800.
There is no such thing as a daylight MOT.
There is an MOT.
What people call a 'daylight' MOT is a normal MOT with an advisory notice that there are no lights fitted at the time of the test.
From the MOT manual (this section for head/tail lights but the others say the same thing).
http://www.motuk.co.uk/mcmanual_110.htm
Druid
This is what my CBR600 has. I was told no lights whatsoever, which means I don't even have a brakelight fitted. I don't have mirrors either. When I ride to a trackday I just unclip my numberplate mount with the R-Clips and it's ready to go.
the_lone_wolf
23-08-08, 10:02 AM
when i recently converted a race bike for use on the road i've found you can either have full lights with indys or no lights whatsoever, however there is an exemption for 'off road' machines which are designed to carry only the rider.
interpret off-road machine as you will, but if it's not got pillion pegs or seat you could say a track bike is "off-road" and ride with head/tail and brake lamps like my KTM, however the manual states: "off road machines are constructed or adapted primarily for use off roads (whether by reason of its tyres, suspension, ground clearance or otherwise)."
yorkie_chris
23-08-08, 10:19 AM
I saw neio mention somebody fixing any track crashes for £1k... I wouldn't spend that on a bike in the first place :-P
I've never been round a track, but it seems the same on the road, I like vehicles where if I bend frame/end up wearing the pistons as a hat etc. then I'm not really that bothered! That way you can thrash the knackers off it and worry about your riding more than the bike.
fastdruid
23-08-08, 10:31 AM
when i recently converted a race bike for use on the road i've found you can either have full lights with indys or no lights whatsoever, however there is an exemption for 'off road' machines which are designed to carry only the rider.
Yep that's pretty much it, if it has any lights then it has to have all lights.
Seems a bit stupid to me that you can't even have a brake light but there you go.
Only things you need are a Reg plate and a horn.
Druid
Dangerous Dave
23-08-08, 10:32 AM
Yep that's pretty much it, if it has any lights then it has to have all lights....
.....Only things you need are a Reg plate and a horn.
Correct on both, this is what my TL track bike had (two quick release fasteners removed the number plate).
fastdruid
23-08-08, 10:34 AM
I saw neio mention somebody fixing any track crashes for £1k... I wouldn't spend that on a bike in the first place :-P
My last two crashes cost 120quid. Well 300quid if you include a new fairing which it didn't strictly need.
Would have been less if the R&G crash bung hadn't just popped out as soon as it hit the deck. There is a reason my bike now has two sets of crash bungs...
Druid
I considered the Stu route and nearly went for it
:monkey:
glad you considered it but don't need to Mate :D
Hope you get the 6R, sounds like a plan.
lukemillar
25-08-08, 04:34 AM
There is no such thing as a daylight MOT.
There is an MOT.
What people call a 'daylight' MOT is a normal MOT with an advisory notice that there are no lights fitted at the time of the test.
From the MOT manual (this section for head/tail lights but the others say the same thing).
http://www.motuk.co.uk/mcmanual_110.htm
Druid
Jeez, talk about splitting heirs! :rolleyes: So it's officially called "an MOT with an advisory stating that it can only be ridden during daylight hours"
I think I'll stick to the term "daylight MOT"
lukemillar
25-08-08, 04:37 AM
I saw neio mention somebody fixing any track crashes for £1k... I wouldn't spend that on a bike in the first place :-P
I've never been round a track, but it seems the same on the road, I like vehicles where if I bend frame/end up wearing the pistons as a hat etc. then I'm not really that bothered! That way you can thrash the knackers off it and worry about your riding more than the bike.
I would say that the 1k comment came from crashing a road bike on the track and restoring it back to pre-crashed condition. If you don't care about the way your bike looks then crashes can be fixed waaay more cheaply!
yorkie_chris
25-08-08, 09:52 AM
Ahh yes, that would be why my last crash cost a tenner to fix :-P
fastdruid
25-08-08, 10:09 AM
Jeez, talk about splitting heirs! :rolleyes: So it's officially called "an MOT with an advisory stating that it can only be ridden during daylight hours"
I think I'll stick to the term "daylight MOT"
You aren't getting my point.
BTW in case anyone was interested you can't have a normal MOT and a daylight MOT. I thought that might be a solution but as some trackdays are miles away and transport is a problem it's a no go due to the early mornings.
:monkey:
That is wrong, there is just an MOT, you don't need to ask for an 'daylight' MOT and you don't get one.
You can remove the headlights/indicators etc on a 'full' MOT with no problems[1], you can add them on to a bike with a 'daylight' MOT.
What you cannot do is ride a bike without lights in the dark!
Druid
[1] As previous, its an all or nothing situation.
Dangerous Dave
25-08-08, 10:52 AM
'Daylight MOT' is the correct legal term for this type of MOT, i agree that it is not the name of the MOT test but it is the correct legal term. I have a high ranking traffic cop as a neighbour back home and he will argue this to the ground, 'Daylight MOT' is the legal term so in fact it does exist.
Now back to the original thread of what is a good track bike?
Well the SV was sold today and I'll be getting the ZX6R withing the next couple of weeks. Will have a little wedge to spend on security and spares and should still have some to go in the bank.
Lovely.
P.S. The Ninja has a steering damper on it. Does it really need one? If not what will I get for it on ebay?
lukemillar
22-09-08, 10:25 PM
Well the SV was sold today and I'll be getting the ZX6R withing the next couple of weeks. Will have a little wedge to spend on security and spares and should still have some to go in the bank.
Lovely.
P.S. The Ninja has a steering damper on it. Does it really need one? If not what will I get for it on ebay?
Which ZX6R is it? If it is a B1/B2 then definitely as they were supposed to be the hardest! (and the best looking kwak!) and had a rep for being vicious headshakers
Yeah it's a G1 just like Mr Squid's I think. I'm trying to get my head around how often so many bikes are updated. Funny that the SV and Daytona have remained very much unchanged.
Edit: Got £650 quid change to do with what I will.
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