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toadie
21-08-08, 08:36 AM
Hi Folks,
Didn't really want to do this but having been bit by the road racing bug, I see no choice :smt103:(

To fund the purchase of a 600, so we can run two classes in Ireland, one of my fine SV's will have to go:(2005 Suzuki SV650
2007 formula 350 - 750 championship winning bike (plus second in the open class)

Many race wins and has lapped Three sisters in 57.4secs. Has won every minitwin race at Wirral 100 and is always in the top four with the 400's, does 1min 15.08's on the coastal circuit at Anglesey.

Full M4 race system - best available for SV

Gilles rear sets - multi adjustable

GPR top yoke mounted steering damper

Maxton front forks - externally adjustable for rebound/compression damper - but still within minitwin rules - new one month ago - £600

Maxton GP7 rear shock - 5 way adjustable - new one month ago - £600

BMC high flow air filter

Goodridge hoses F & R - new one month ago

New Tsubaki 520 chain

Dyna-Pro Lightweight rear subframe

Dyna-Pro Lightweight clock/fairing bracket

K5 GSXR1000 bodywork - with double bubble screen

K3 Radiator (bigger than K5)

This bike is in fantastic condition and a race winner, it has helped me to the top of the championship charts in 4 classes so far this year. It will come with the following spares:

Wets on wheels

A selection of sprockets

Spare clip-ons

Brake and clutch levers

Rear set parts

Looking for £3700ono for the bike and spares.

Pm me or call me on - 07855 454901

chunkytfg
21-08-08, 09:08 AM
any chance of a pic of the forks as i didnt think that you could have modified or different fork tops to be within minitwin rules

toadie
21-08-08, 09:41 AM
any chance of a pic of the forks as i didnt think that you could have modified or different fork tops to be within minitwin rules

Hi Fella,

The forks look identical to standard, there is rebound adjustment at the top and compression adjustment from underneath, very trick;)

Dangerous Dave
21-08-08, 04:47 PM
The forks look identical to standard, there is rebound adjustment at the top and compression adjustment from underneath, very trick;)
Not allowed in Minitwins I don't think.

toadie
21-08-08, 07:49 PM
Not allowed in Minitwins I don't think.

Here are the regs from the minitwin site:

Suspension

Forks must remain as originally produced by the manufacturer for the homologated machine with the exception of the following:

- Original internal parts of the fork may be modified or replaced. After market damper kits or valves may by installed. Fork springs may be replaced.

- Fork caps may not be modified or replaced beyond the homologated standard to allow external adjustments.

- Fork stanchions must retain the original finish. No additional surface treatments are allowed.

As you can see the fork caps have to remain as standard, which they are, and it does not say you cannot add adjustment, the compression adjustment is done the same way Ducati do theirs on the 748/916/996

I have raced minitwins for a few seasons now, I know what you can and can't do.

Cheers

Paul

MiniMac
21-08-08, 07:52 PM
I'm not thinking of buying it, but could you post a few pictures, I like bike porn :)

toadie
21-08-08, 08:52 PM
Images:

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff296/toadie11/Picture080.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff296/toadie11/Picture081.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff296/toadie11/Picture082.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff296/toadie11/Picture046.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff296/toadie11/Picture051.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff296/toadie11/Picture057.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff296/toadie11/Picture060.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff296/toadie11/Picture062.jpg

Cheers

Paul

yorkie_chris
22-08-08, 03:38 PM
Those just look like preload caps to me.

Nice bike, if I had the money I would (and spray it matt black :-D)

toadie
23-08-08, 08:54 AM
More images as requested:

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff296/toadie11/Picture086.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff296/toadie11/RSSV.jpg

Dangerous Dave
23-08-08, 11:39 AM
- Fork caps may not be modified or replaced beyond the homologated standard to allow external adjustments.

But you have done that, the SV does not come with external adjustable rebound and compression which means it isn't homologated with them.

I have built (and rebuilt) a few minitwins bikes in my time and not one has had this modification, the addition of preload adjusters yes but not compression and rebound.

Maxton front forks - externally adjustable for rebound/compression damper - but still within minitwin rules - new one month ago - £600
Have you got any pictures of these external adjusters?

Nice bike by the way.

Demonz
23-08-08, 05:55 PM
But you have done that, the SV does not come with external adjustable rebound and compression which means it isn't homologated with them.

I have built (and rebuilt) a few minitwins bikes in my time and not one has had this modification, the addition of preload adjusters yes but not compression and rebound.


Have you got any pictures of these external adjusters?

Nice bike by the way.

The way i read it is the caps are standard. The rebound and compression adjustment is done from under the bottom of the fork - not on the cap - so this would make it ok.

Dangerous Dave
24-08-08, 09:20 AM
The rebound and compression adjustment is done from under the bottom of the fork - not on the cap - so this would make it ok.
If it is an added external adjuster it is not allowed, other then Preload adjusters, doesn't matter where it is position it is not allowed.

Internal adjustment yes, external no!

toadie
24-08-08, 11:01 AM
If it is an added external adjuster it is not allowed, other then Preload adjusters, doesn't matter where it is position it is not allowed.

Internal adjustment yes, external no!

Hi Dave,

Thanks for your comment, she is indeed a very nice bike.

I have raced these forks (along with a different bike:rolleyes:) at MRO, they passed pre-race scruitneering, won races and gained podium finishes and then passed post race scrutiny.

Please see below the excact rules regarding suspension pulled directly from the official minitwins website:

Suspension

Forks must remain as originally produced by the manufacturer for the homologated machine with the exception of the following:

- Original internal parts of the fork may be modified or replaced. After market damper kits or valves may by installed. Fork springs may be replaced.

- Fork caps may not be modified or replaced beyond the homologated standard to allow external adjustments.

- Fork stanchions must retain the original finish. No additional surface treatments are allowed.

- Refinishing of the outer fork tubes to a suitable standard is acceptable.
Steering damper may be added although it cannot act as a steering lock device.

Rear suspension unit can be changed or modified. The original attachment to the frame and swing arm must be as homologated.

As you can see it states:

"- Fork caps may not be modified or replaced beyond the homologated standard to allow external adjustments." they are not, as you can see from the images on the previous page

"Forks must remain as originally produced by the manufacturer for the homologated machine with the exception of the following:" they are, again as you can see from the images above.

It does not state you cannot add adjustment, only you cannot modify or replace the fork caps to add adjustment, which we haven't done!

If you can show me some rules, that state differently then please do so, but in the mean time thanks for the interest as it's keeping her near the top:winner:

Dangerous Dave
24-08-08, 11:58 AM
Point it out at the next scruitineering and see what happens, I know at least two bikes that did not pass because of the added external adjusters.

Have you any pictures of them?

kieron.harvey@y
16-09-08, 09:40 PM
hi is this still for sale?

cheers
Kieron

metalmonkey
16-09-08, 10:17 PM
hi is this still for sale?

cheers
Kieron

mine is up for sale, have a look:cool:

yorkie_chris
16-09-08, 11:41 PM
They still look like preload adjusters

Lozzo
17-09-08, 12:07 AM
They look like preload adjusters, but I'd say they've been modified to be the rebound adjusters, which is keeping within the rules, but maybe not within the spirit of the rules. You can adjust rebound via what was the preload adjuster, and preload is now adjusted by removing the cap and installing different length spacers on top of the springs.

As for adding compression adjusters at the bottom of the forks, that's technically illegal under the rules as it adds an external adjuster.

EDIT - actually, reading the rules to the letter, only the caps cannot be modified. If someone wants to add compression adjusters to where the damper rod bolts go, then there's nothing in the rules to stop them. It'd be an ar5e to adjust because the wheel has to come out every time, but I suppose once to know your settings for each track in wet and dry conditions, it's a simple matter of clicking up or down when you swop from dry tyres to wets.

Dangerous Dave
17-09-08, 06:37 AM
As for adding compression adjusters at the bottom of the forks, that's technically illegal under the rules as it adds an external adjuster.
Thats what I am on about.

toadie
17-09-08, 07:17 AM
EDIT - actually, reading the rules to the letter, only the caps cannot be modified. If someone wants to add compression adjusters to where the damper rod bolts go, then there's nothing in the rules to stop them. It'd be an ar5e to adjust because the wheel has to come out every time, but I suppose once to know your settings for each track in wet and dry conditions, it's a simple matter of clicking up or down when you swop from dry tyres to wets.

Bob on!

BTW - the bike is now sold