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I'm_a_Newbie
21-08-08, 06:18 PM
I have only been riding since 2004 and each year I have noticed more and more diesel spilt on the road.
Last year I rode over to Southampton, a lorry or bus had left so much on the road it had formed puddles, not just a film.
The same thing happened in Havant near Asda. A bus had stopped to pick up passangers, because of the slope of the road it left a slick of diesel about 10 feet long and 18 feet wide, the whole width of the road.
A few weeks ago I had a major falling out with a work colleague who knowingly continued to driver her car even though it had a major diesel leak and left a trail 18 inches wide. I hit her slick on the roundabout near where I work the first time it happened.
Yesterday I followed a slick for miles that was about 2 feet wide.
This morning on my usual trek to work down the back roads near Denmead I got to the spot where a car driver was killed just over a week ago. It looked like there had been another accident at the same spot. Again the whole width of the road was soaked in diesel for a distance of about 20 feet. Someone has thrown what looked like saw dust on a small patch of it. What about the rest!!!
I reckon all diesel vehicles should have 2 MOT's a year and fail at the slightest sign of a leak.
It's getting bloody ridiculous.
How I have not come off yet I don't know.
ThEGr33k
21-08-08, 06:37 PM
It is indeed mental! The other day there was so much on J36 on the M1, on the actual roundabout I could smell it never mind see it! Absolutly rediculous. Soooo annoying.
I have actually crashed on it before! I was on my VT250 touched the front brake (couldnt see the slick at all it was a couple of days old and the rain was pouring) liturally touched the brake and before I know what had happened I was on my **** with the bike sparking along the road.
I only realised that diesel was there after a guy in the shop where I fell told me there was a big spill. After looking real close I could see it... guess the clean up didnt go so well.
Best tip I can give is if you notice diesel try not to brake with the front and go careful with the back. I figure lock the front (and it will with NO pressure on the brake) then you will go down... at least with the back brake you can control it easier.
Take care out there!
tanis34
21-08-08, 07:13 PM
makes you wonder how they can afford to lose all this diesel
Nostrils
21-08-08, 07:23 PM
With the rise in Diesel vehicle ownership, its just a knock on effect. What people do not realise is that filling the tank to the brim doesnt benefit them in any way. Common sense, well mine anyway tells me that if I have an empty tank and the pump cuts off after £20, clearly the tank is not full so continue, but if I have put about £45 in the tank and the pump cuts off, then I am happy that the tank is nearly full and leave it there. Those who fill their tank to the brim should realise that without anywhere for the full tank of fuel to displace to other than out of the tank breather pipe.
The A217 yesterday had a trail from the M25 up until the first garage, no word from the council afte sending an email. It was still there this morning, but thankfully it has been mainly dry.
Tim in Belgium
21-08-08, 07:51 PM
Helmsley TT was diesel slicked Tuesday morning, it was even slicking over both lanes in places.
Keep safe out there and your eyes peeled.
Shellywoozle
21-08-08, 07:52 PM
If you see a diesel spill contact your council and they will come and sort.
If it is really bad and you are concerned it will cause an accident (car or bike) call the police, I have been resourced to many a diesel spillage and been more than happy to attend.
Not meaning to teach you to suck eggs sorry had too much wine :)
custard
21-08-08, 08:26 PM
yeah, this caused me a dislocated shoulder and £1500 repair bill!!!!!
stupid bloody rozzers decided that, even after i had asked what the surface was like (can hardly stand up mate was the reply), not to make a note in their notebooks about the amount of diesel on the road. no payout from MIB for custard!
AND i had to pay for granuals to be put down where my bike leaked oil!!!!
not sure if it still goes on, but Killspills petition for better awareness etc and do massive rallies into london about exactly this.
went on one one year seeing the A40 jammed with thousands of bikes was something that i think will always stay with me.
I'm_a_Newbie
21-08-08, 11:17 PM
I have reported diesel spills several times to the council using www.hants.gov.uk (http://www.hants.gov.uk) site. Sometimes they respond and clean it up and others they don't.
Most diesel is spilt from leaking pipes, tanks, loose filters etc. Over filling of tanks is not really the problem with car and light vans. HGV's yes if they have a faulty fuel filler cap.
I put a kill the spills poster up at work when the woman carried on driving her car. The problem with their posters is they point at the problem being overfilling of tanks. I think the campaign should be changed to "Fix That Leak" or something similar.
Tim.
I quite often have to follow spills such as this and wonder how they get there, have followed stuff 3 ft wide and seemingly for miles.....I just slow right up by rolling off the throttle and try to avoid braking where poss.
I have reported diesel spills several times to the council using www.hants.gov.uk (http://www.hants.gov.uk) site. Sometimes they respond and clean it up and others they don't.
You really need to push them, same with Portsmouth council... As I had a running e-mail with them about that state of Cosham roundabout. Remind them they have 24 hours to clear it up or something like that, else if someone comes off on it after you have told them you could sue the council.
Plenty of it around this morning on my way to work.
The rain don't help as it brings allot of it to the surface...
DanAbnormal
22-08-08, 09:46 AM
On my commute it's the HGV's and buses that are the problem. You can tell as the trail stops on all the bus stops. I think buses and HGV's should have extra checks for this sort of stuff, running buses that endanger other road users, especially cyclists and bikers is not good. But then a lot of bus drivers are pretty damn dangerous in how they drive, could be training or their shcedules but I've nearly been taken out twice by oncoming buses on my side of the road this week. They seem to think they have right of way on the wrong side of the road! Winkers.
Yep, some of them can be a bit of a stroker... this morning though I had one that stopped early so I could filter past.
Never had much of a problem with it to be honest, must just be lucky around here.
I think some people fear it WAY to much.
I think some people fear it WAY to much.
Well I'm not sure its fear, ist more respect it, as it sooo easy to be happy going upright to sliding on your bum with diesel.
Never had much of a problem with it to be honest, must just be lucky around here.
I think some people fear it WAY to much.
Aint they still using coal powered vehicles in nottingham though? :lol:
Ive been doen once on the stuff it hurt. So yes i fear/resepct it too much.
Never heard of a coal powered car, probably cheaper to run than diesel though.
The point is people make way to big a deal of it, if you ride around constantly think oooooo diesel then A) your probably not enjoying your ride B) your probably not looking where your going
http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=111158&highlight=diesel&page=2
Dangerous Dave
22-08-08, 12:01 PM
Report the diesel spill to the police, then to the vehicle owner (if possible) and advise them the police have been informed.
vardypeeps
22-08-08, 12:04 PM
It can be annoying but all I tend to do is keep to one side of it. The spills around here tend to cover half of your lane right in the middle etc so not too hard to avoid and I always ride around roundabouts upright when it's been raining anyway just because the tarmac tends to be like ice even when its dry.
jimmy-james
22-08-08, 03:53 PM
People using biodiesel i.e busses may have problems with knackered rubber pipes caused be it erroding the pipes thus causing spillages. Most busses use it to be eco friendly but dont realise its injuring/killing bikers. I have tractors near me, dont even get me started on them with the mix of mud/diesel/oil all over the road, not even the council will clear it up as i am too remote!
startrek.steve
22-08-08, 05:04 PM
Ahem!!!!
It's pretty unnerving once you've crashed on it - I get hyper aware everytime it rains after writing off a Lotus Elise on a diesel spill in the wet a few years ago :mad::mad:
Always very wary on roundabouts - they seem to be the most common places for spills round here.
BBadger
22-08-08, 05:10 PM
boi diesel ( made from fat in this case ) is good in other senses ..... i can smell fish and chips driving down the road when i follow a friends landy.
and to be fair with the hole diesel slicks everywhere most of the lorry drivers round me have plastic bags and lots of rubber bands to help catch the inevitable slips the cause. shows some people care and their the main cause.
yorkie_chris
22-08-08, 05:17 PM
Er, G. Some of us have bikes for transport. When you're on your rse at 40mph next to your shiny plaything I'll be sure to ask if you're enjoying it :-P
Anyway, a little fear is healthy, I think diesel is pretty slippy but it needs something else to have you off just from a tap on the front brakes... like overbanding.
Tim in Belgium
22-08-08, 06:00 PM
..... I think diesel is pretty slippy but it needs something else to have you off just from a tap on the front brakes... like overbanding.
Or a big stick through your front wheel.
yorkie_chris
22-08-08, 06:03 PM
Yeah that'll do it :-P
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