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Hi all.
I've had a little search but couldn't find what I was looking for.
I have recently acquired a used Scottoiler with a dual injector/tip attached to dispence the oil onto the chain.
I have concluded that I'm going to locate the oiler behind the black infill under the seat. Having seen the photos in the 'how to' section I was wondering if it's worth running the dispensing tube down the swingarm or if I could in some way attach the dual tip near the front sprocket. I'll be investigating tomorrow (saturday) but keeping it all out of the way seems like a good idea in my book.
Cheers.
Biker Biggles
22-08-08, 08:31 PM
General consensus seems to be to point the oiler to the rear sprocket,and that the dual sided version is a bit of a pain.The single one is quite adequate.
SVGrandad
22-08-08, 08:47 PM
General consensus seems to be to point the oiler to the rear sprocket,and that the dual sided version is a bit of a pain.The single one is quite adequate.
I like the dual sided oiler. It is more rigid and easier to mount. Perhaps it is me being a pain though!
fastdruid
22-08-08, 09:01 PM
General consensus seems to be to point the oiler to the rear sprocket,and that the dual sided version is a bit of a pain.The single one is quite adequate.
No it's not.
The single one keeps the one side nicely clean and lubes both sides but then you have to keep the other side clean.
Use the dual injector and both sides stay clean, more importantly it doesn't rust on that side!
Druid
The bike i have just bought has the single tip scottoiler i believe the reservoir is located in the position you have mentioned ( behind a little black triangle ) and the delivery tube runs down the swingarm and despenses ontop of the rear sprocket. It would be interesting to see if you could keep the tube better hiddin as i think it looks a little crude zip tied down the length of the swingarm.
cheers mick
DarrenSV650S
22-08-08, 09:23 PM
What setting does everyone have their scottoiler on? I've just stuck mine on today
Sid Squid
22-08-08, 09:51 PM
Throw the dual injector in the bin, the single works perfectly and is easier to fit.
The dual injector exists only to enable sales of Scottoilers to people who don't know how a Scottoiler works or how a chain is constructed.
SVGrandad
22-08-08, 09:59 PM
Throw the dual injector in the bin, the single works perfectly and is easier to fit.
The dual injector exists only to enable sales of Scottoilers to people who don't know how a Scottoiler works or how a chain is constructed.
I knew that one was coming! Cheers Sid
Biker Biggles
22-08-08, 10:09 PM
I didnt mean to start an arguement;):smt117:smt021:-)
yorkie_chris
23-08-08, 09:31 AM
If one side of your chain is going rusty then you're not using enough oil, or are pointing the delivery pipe at your face rather than the chain.
I would fit a single injector near the rear sprocket as per normal use, I've seen some done on the front sprocket and the higher rpm seems to fling a lot, so you need to use much more oil to get enough on the chain.
I would fit a single injector near the rear sprocket as per normal use, I've seen some done on the front sprocket and the higher rpm seems to fling a lot, so you need to use much more oil to get enough on the chain.
As I'm yet to purchase a scott (and thinking about it)... I'm considering dripping oil onto the chain at the bottom of the front sprocket. That should reduce forces acting on the oil, and reduce fling.
It'll be a swine to fit it on the inside of the sprocket though, and equally a swine to move it out the way every time the sprocket is changed. :(
Thanks people. I have mounted the oiler and routed most of the pipes. I had a good fiddle with the positioning of the tip and found that the easiest and least fussy place to mount it is under the swingarm. Putting it bu the front sprocket doesn't give a good enough angle to ensure a good enough oil feed. I'll use some resin glue to attach the mounting plate and make sure I leave enoung room for the padock stand. The feed pipe should remain reasonably short and one zip-tie should secure it up and out of the way.
Seggons
23-08-08, 05:23 PM
Lozzo did a great job on his: http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?p=1490857#post1490857
DarrenSV650S
23-08-08, 05:52 PM
Isn't drilling the swingarm a bit dodgy dodgerson ?
All done!
A few swear words later ( I dropped a spacer in the engine/suspension and couldn't find it. That is until I had finished :mad:. Never mind) it is all in. It fits perfectly behind the panel under the seat and the pipework all flows perfectly from it. I routed the filler tube between the under seat storage tray and the rear bodywork. It then pops out by the locking catch and hooks over one of the metal hooks (helmet hooks?) next to it. The feed tube goes through the swingarm alongside the spring and along the underside. I stuck the backet on using araldite and positioned the dual feed between the 6/7 o'clock position on the rear sprocket. If you didn't know it was there you would have to look for it to see it. I need to run the engine to check the flow but I confident that it will do as it is intended.
Also, while the tank was up I cut the wires for the ignition retard, and turned the rear preload up one click to compensate for all those icecreams I've been eating over the summer holidays (I've only got a week left :( ;))
Dangerous Dave
24-08-08, 08:53 AM
Isn't drilling the swingarm a bit dodgy dodgerson ?
Depends where you drill...
Lozzo's is ok.
.....done on the front sprocket and the higher rpm seems to fling a lot, so you need to use much more oil to get enough on the chain.
This is mine
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/Hi-vis/SVSScottoiler013Small.jpg
and I find the opposite, the oil usage is minimal, I usually adjust it up until there are just a few spots finding their way onto the wheel at which the chain is nicely moist.
The black scotty pipe runs down through the steel tube and ends up all but touching the sprocket. As the drip forms it reaches the sprocket face and just transfers itself across.
I've also made a shield mounted under the gearchange shaft area to stop crud from the front wheel getting thrown up straight onto the chain, which I suspect also creates a sheltered area which helps stop the oil getting blown around. I'll post up a pic* when I take one.
*Edit - yer'tiz
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/Hi-vis/IMG_3733Small.jpg
yorkie_chris
24-08-08, 09:41 PM
That seems more sensible, the one I saw dripped it onto the top of the chain on the top run, bad idea.
That seems more sensible, the one I saw dripped it onto the top of the chain on the top run, bad idea.
That's a good way to throw oil onto the floor. :lol:
yorkie_chris
24-08-08, 09:44 PM
Yeah, protects the rising rate linkage from corrosion pretty well though :-P
Dangerous Dave
25-08-08, 11:21 AM
That seems more sensible, the one I saw dripped it onto the top of the chain on the top run, bad idea.
Terrible idea.
I have fitted then to bikes with limited underseat storage to work off of the front sprocket as above. You can put the reservoir under the front or side fairing with a hose secured some accessible (use a syringe to fill it back up). This is not applicable with the SV though.
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