Heated grips that can't flat your batteries

[Ceri JC]

I remember reading about new heated grips (I think it was Oxford IIRC, but can't find anything about it on their site) that you connected direct to the battery, but had some clever way of knowing if the bike was not on, so that it was impossible to flat the batteries by accidentally leaving them on. I'm not talking about cutting into the loom and fitting a relay, I mean the grips worked this way as they come, out of the box, just plug them in and off you go. I've tried searching the site, to no avail. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Ta folks.

[BBadger]

i got a pair of those for my birthday...... and thought about taking the complicated replay route, but EFFORT! and im lazy =].

as far as leaving them on and the bike off i have done it but only for a short time ( you shoulda seen me run to turn them off, i wernt about to bump start)

its easy to remember as they have a little led on them so you know if its on and at what temp, but again not willing to leave them on unless im sure.

also they are amazing still wearing my summer gloves on the cold motorway journies only on the 1st setting and hands get to warm.

[Alpinestarhero]

I guess it is a problem. You could get around it by putting an extra switch under the pillion seat, than you can turn to "off" when you park up - that avoids you forgetting to have left the main switch on at the handlebars, and also avoids the problem of getting a dead battery form someone playing a "joke" by turning on your grips while your away at work or whatever!

Due to my untidy wiring, I am able and tend to disconnect the wires form the controller to the grips if I leave the bike some place all day long.

Matt

[Ceri JC]

as far as leaving them on and the bike off i have done it but only for a short time ( you shoulda seen me run to turn them off, i wernt about to bump start)

its easy to remember as they have a little led on them so you know if its on and at what temp, but again not willing to leave them on unless im sure.


I've left them on once (although thinking about it, the bike wasn't covered so it may have been someone playing a trick on me) and managed to flat the battery and that's enough to make we want to have them definately go off when the power is cut. I tried it fitting a relay, but I really do suck at electronics and without an idiot-proof guide was lost.

Alpinestars, what do you mean a second switch under the pillion seat? Surely that wouldn't prevent me leaving it powered on? Or is that just to foil people maliciously trying to flat the battery?

[Alpinestarhero]

Alpinestars, what do you mean a second switch under the pillion seat? Surely that wouldn't prevent me leaving it powered on? Or is that just to foil people maliciously trying to flat the battery?

Like, wire in another switch in the circuit, and mount it under the seat. It might be easier to remember to go under the pillion seat to turn a switch off, or at least it'll feel odder if you walk away and dont do it, you'll want to go back and make sure. Plus, once its off, you can be certain, and no-one can tamper.

[Gazza77]

I remember reading about new heated grips (I think it was Oxford IIRC, but can't find anything about it on their site) that you connected direct to the battery, but had some clever way of knowing if the bike was not on, so that it was impossible to flat the batteries by accidentally leaving them on. I'm not talking about cutting into the loom and fitting a relay, I mean the grips worked this way as they come, out of the box, just plug them in and off you go. I've tried searching the site, to no avail. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Ta folks.

Heated gloves, eg Gerbings. You take them with you when you leave the bike; virtually impossible to leave them on!

[Alpinestarhero]

wont heated gloves be bulky though?

[Gazza77]

wont heated gloves be bulky though?

Compared to winter or summer gloves? I picked up a pair of Gerbings cheap as it was into Spring, thus out of season and as such I've only worn them once. They didn't seem that different in terms of "bulk" to my existing winter gloves, a pair of Richa ones.

[Grinch]

I have Oxford grips... they don't flatten the battery cus they bloody won't stay on. The sensor in them I think is screwed so unless the bike has the lights off or is rev'ing above 7k they turn themselves off. Its bloody anoying, when I get five I'll replace it with my own made controller.

[hovis]

i had them on the SV and they were fine (not as hot as i would have hoped, but this is somthing to do with the curvy clip ons?)
but when i put them on the old blade although they did get hotter, they would not stay on for long, and did not work if i had my lights on...........

[[JP]]

I had heated grips on my previous bike and they were brilliant!

I bought them last November at the NEC and they were Oxford, dont remember the model now, but they had a little box with LEDs..
from what I read, they have some kind of sensor that if they are left turned on and the battery level drops, then they will switch off automaticaly..

but it's hard to leave them on and the box has a bright blue LED that you can't miss

[dirtydog]

I've got a set on my SV and tbh I don't trust them to turn them selves off even so being the lazy git I am I still wired them to the battery. I've had no trouble previously with the battery going flat but now it goes flat in the space of a week and that's with the grips turned off! Although the battery issue may be nothing to do with the grips

[Stu]

From all the problems above. Surely the answer is to wire them into an ignition feed. Therefore no relay required, no switch to remember, no switch by the pillion seat to remember & why would you remember that but not the main switch :???:

There is an ignition feed on the Pointies at the block of wires under the pillion seat, I believe it is the orange wire.

[dirtydog]

Surely the answer is to wire them into an ignition feed .


Yeah the answer is to wire them to the ignition but like i said i'm lazy! :rolleyes:;)

[Dicky Ticker]

Simple question Why don't you wire them through the ignition switch so that when you switch the engine off,they are off--------or am I being silly about something It may take a little longer but worth the effort

[Grinch]

Mine is wired into the ignition, but the Oxford ones have a built in sensor to detect a voltage drop, though mine seem over sensitive.

[BBadger]

Yeah the answer is to wire them to the ignition but like i said i'm lazy! :rolleyes:;)

goly good show !

and a good wiring diagram is hard to come by unless you buy one.

[jambo]

The ignition wiring should be used to engage a relay, but the power should be drawn from the battery, not direct from the ignition wire. The reason for this is that they draw a reasonable mount of current. If they pop your ignition fuse, or burn out some of the wiring (I'll admit this last bit is less likely) you're stuck at the side of the road, with bust electrics, and cold hands.

Do it properly, it doesn't take much longer.


Jambo

[northwind]

From all the problems above. Surely the answer is to wire them into an ignition feed. Therefore no relay required, no switch to remember, no switch by the pillion seat to remember & why would you remember that but not the main switch :???:


This man is correct ;)

[yorkie_chris]

The new oxford ones, to steal a northy quote; are "just clever enough to be stupid" Given the choice I'd fit manual adjuster and wire it through the ignition. Mine is wired directly into the ignition, the charging system and wiring cope fine.

[SDMF]

I have Oxford grips... they don't flatten the battery cus they bloody won't stay on. The sensor in them I think is screwed so unless the bike has the lights off or is rev'ing above 7k they turn themselves off. Its bloody anoying, when I get five I'll replace it with my own made controller.

When I had my SV, I had exactly the same problem. Used to p155 me right off!

[glade]

does the bike have spare relay locations like cars?

E.g all my clios have had empty spaces in the relay box... Also if there were options that the car didn't have there would be a proper space you can utilize.

I guess on a bike space is at a premium so there are none fitted!

[Lozzo]

Just wire the damn things through the igniton switch, it doesn't take a brain surgeon and that means you can buy something other than the utterly dire Oxford ones. My choice would be Daytona ones, had them on a few bikes and they really are the business, also the controller isn't huge like the Oxford one.

[Lozzo]

There is an ignition feed on the Pointies at the block of wires under the pillion seat, I believe it is the orange wire.

It's the orange wire on all Suzukis. If you buy Daytona ones they have all the necessary details like that for Honda, Yamaha etc on the back, so you can't go wrong.

[BBadger]

sorted!

The grips each have a wire that connects into one, which also has a clip on it.
So if you dont want to go through the ignition.... just pull that apart or fit a switch inbetween, maplin should have everything you need.

otherwise ignition or a decent make sounds good.

[Grinch]

When I had my SV, I had exactly the same problem. Used to p155 me right off!

Trip to Maplins this weekend me thinks to wire up me own switch and controller.

[ridelikeaturtle]

Everything you need to know is right here.

http://www.canyonchasers.net/shop/generic/relay.php