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Heads up people of the org. Its almost ten years since the photocard driving licence was realseased to the public, and if you didnt know, you have to renew every 10 years at a cost of £17.50. So check you expiry date and get it sorted, you dont want to fall foul of the old bill! (Something else for them to check and knick ya for)
In the ideal world you should get a reminder from the DVLA but you know how efficent they are!
Edit**Its section 4b on the licence**
Mine expires next year, though I look nothing like the photo, I have curtains for a start.
Erm... where's it say when it expires?...
mine is right next to the photo 2010 for me
ThEGr33k
29-08-08, 08:22 AM
Yes this is the tactic for taking bikes off of the road. They'll forget to give us our bike entitlement. Make sure you have pictures and photo copies so if they do you can give them a good kick in! ;)
Erm... where's it say when it expires?...Section 4b
Section 4b
Ah, kewl. Cheers. :)
Dec 2012... So that means I've only gotta put up with that HORRIBLE photo of me for another 4 years aaannnnnnd 4 months...
Note: First thing on a Monday morning at Oxford Circus after commuting into London on the train/tube is *NOT* a good time to get your photo done. :lol:
Luckypants
29-08-08, 09:05 AM
Great info Viney and something I was not aware of! Luckily mine does not need renewing until 2012, yay for moving house!
rictus01
29-08-08, 09:13 AM
Mine expires 28.02.33 :D
Biker Biggles
29-08-08, 09:22 AM
Ive still got a green one too.
No photo here.
Ive still got a green one too.
No photo here.
Best not get pulled then.
Another year to go for me. Ropey photo, me with long hair. Ugh.
Still, better than my old passport, which featured a school tie...
Best not get pulled then.
I didnt think its was illegal to have an old style one.. they are still valid surely?
Mine is Novemeber this year! Cant believe its been 10 years!
I didnt think its was illegal to have an old style one.. they are still valid surely?
I don't know the exact details of it, but I thought that they are no longer valid as a licence... so there for I would say if you have one you don't have a valid licence.
never knew that...
my picture is of me when i was still a woman. guess it could be considered out of date now...
rictus01
29-08-08, 12:20 PM
I don't know the exact details of it, but I thought that they are no longer valid as a licence... so there for I would say if you have one you don't have a valid licence.
Nope, perfectly valid and legal, been check several times over recent years :D there's nothing to say you have to change to a photo one.
Cheers Mark.
is it not just the paper bit that shows any points? don't think they put anything onto your photocard showing points.
which then asks the question,do u need the photocard licence?
Nope, perfectly valid and legal, been check several times over recent years :D there's nothing to say you have to change to a photo one.
Cheers Mark.
Ignore me then.
is it not just the paper bit that shows any points? don't think they put anything onto your photocard showing points.
which then asks the question,do u need the photocard licence?
I think its a EU thing if you want to travel abroad with your vehicle, to try and standardise it across all countries.
grh1904
29-08-08, 02:12 PM
One isn't valed unless accompanied by the other, (photocard and paper counterpart that is.
Photo to prove identity, counterpart for endorsements etc.
OLD style still valid.
Those that need to renew every 10 years count yourself luck, I have to do it every 3 years, and have to do battle with all the jobsworths at DVLA. Still having a running battle with them now (14 months later), if there is a single brain cell at DVLA then it's never in the department I'm calling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Biker Biggles
29-08-08, 04:27 PM
Why is it every three years for you?
Are you Diabetic or are you about three hundred years old?
grh1904
29-08-08, 05:11 PM
Why is it every three years for you?
Are you Diabetic or are you about three hundred years old?
Sure am, hence a renewal every 3 years. Still having probelms now despite telling DVLA in June 2007 that I'd moved onto insulin. All to do with categories on licence.
Apparently I CAN drive my Police vehicles on blue light runs, go through red traffic lights (safety permitting etc), travel in excess of the speed limit AND (if I pass the interview) become a traffic/bike cop, become a Police advanced driver and get involved in pursuit situations (likelyhood of travelling at 100+mph - pretty high)
Apparently I CANNOT drive a minibus. WHY - I might crash it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
grh1904
29-08-08, 05:12 PM
Why is it every three years for you?
Are you Diabetic or are you about three hundred years old?
No I just look it.
Mine is 2016 some time...
Sure am, hence a renewal every 3 years. Still having probelms now despite telling DVLA in June 2007 that I'd moved onto insulin. All to do with categories on licence.
Apparently I CAN drive my Police vehicles on blue light runs, go through red traffic lights (safety permitting etc), travel in excess of the speed limit AND (if I pass the interview) become a traffic/bike cop, become a Police advanced driver and get involved in pursuit situations (likelyhood of travelling at 100+mph - pretty high)
Apparently I CANNOT drive a minibus. WHY - I might crash it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
That's because there are multiple people directly affected by your ability to control the vehicle when in a Minibus.
IIRC, the limit is 5 people (conventional car), and a minibus with, for example, 16 capacity is over the "limit" DVLA put in place.
If you wreck a police car at a million miles an hour, there's a good chance you won't kill 16 people. Ironic huh?
(My dad lost his PCV licence due to diabetes).
Biker Biggles
29-08-08, 06:06 PM
Its actually to do with license catagories and petty bureaucracy.
The DVLA puts blanket bans on certain catagories for certain medical conditions because the powers that be cant be bothered to assess drivers properly.
Driving emergency vehicles does not require a specific catagory on your license(rightly or wrongly)so there is no license catagory to revoke.What they did do a few years ago was issue guidance to emergency services employers to the effect that they should not allow insulin dependant diabetics to drive under emergency conditions.This guidance has been sucessfully challenged under disability discrimination legislation,and,suject to medical assessment,IDDs can now carry out their full jobs in emergency servises.
Its actually to do with license catagories and petty bureaucracy.
The DVLA puts blanket bans on certain catagories for certain medical conditions because the powers that be cant be bothered to assess drivers properly.
I agree completely, and you said pretty much the same thing, only more succinctlythan I. :)
Mine is pink and squeaky clean ............................:p
jaffacakes
29-08-08, 08:50 PM
Only 1 year to go, then I can get rid of the babyfaced 17year old and say hello to the babyfaced 27 year old!:smt017
Grinch you gotta scan that curtains image in here mate;-)
galaxystar
29-08-08, 09:31 PM
Funnily enough, just posted mine off today. Bloody £17.50 plus the cost of the photo!!!! robbing gits.
grh1904
30-08-08, 12:00 PM
STUFF.........What they did do a few years ago was issue guidance to emergency services employers to the effect that they should not allow insulin dependant diabetics to drive under emergency conditions.
This guidance has been sucessfully challenged under disability discrimination legislation,and,suject to medical assessment,IDDs can now carry out their full jobs in emergency servises.
This is my beef with DVLA, and BB is absolutely spot on.
I have a good relationship with my force occupational health dept. Very nice people who listen to me and assess accordingly. Dr Khan the Occ Heath Dr can see no reason why, as long as I maintain good control of my diabetes, am fully aware of the signs of hypoglycemia and carry some fast acting carbs (keep packet of lucozade tablets in stab vest pocket), I cannot retain my driving authority.
Why oh why can't DVLA be the same. At the end of the day "IF" I had an accident in an emergency services vehicle and killed someone (as a result of my diabetes, hypo etc), then my Chief Constable will no doubt not accept any responsibilty for allowing me to drive. WHY, because a professional Dr has given his opinion the I am safe to do so, and it would fall back to the Dr (of course it would be my fault etc), but the person who signs me off as allowed to drive would no doubt be implicated.
Surely DVLA could do the same, accept a letter from my diabetes specialist at the hospital, as well as my Occ Health Doctor and allow me to retain my entitlement to drive minibuses etc.
On a side note, when I did query with DVLA how to overturn this decision I was informed that I could do it if I challenged the Secretary of State in court. But in the same breath the young lad said "NO ONE HAS EVER BEATEN THE SECRETARY OF STATE IN COURT BEFORE". Scare tactics?????"
sv-robo
30-08-08, 04:34 PM
mine expires 2041???
joshmac
30-08-08, 06:16 PM
21/02/17 for me
joshmac
30-08-08, 06:21 PM
mine expires 2041???
You sure you're not looking at the wrong date?
It's the date next to 4b on the front of the licence apparently.
(Mine would be 15/01/2061 if I went by the dates on the back :?)
GordonM
30-08-08, 08:14 PM
You sure you're not looking at the wrong date?
It's the date next to 4b on the front of the licence apparently.
(Mine would be 15/01/1961 if I went by the dates on the back :?)
The expiry date on the back is 2061, not 1961. That is when your licence expires on your 70th birthday, after which I think you need a doctor to confirm you're still safe to drive. The date on 4b is when the photocard licence expires.
17/2/2010 for my photocard, ten years since my car test.
joshmac
31-08-08, 01:48 AM
The expiry date on the back is 2061, not 1961. That is when your licence expires on your 70th birthday, after which I think you need a doctor to confirm you're still safe to drive. The date on 4b is when the photocard licence expires.
17/2/2010 for my photocard, ten years since my car test.
Woops. That's obviously what I meant :smt019 :D
I was rushing, well done for spotting that deliberate mistake ;) :lol:
Gordon B
31-08-08, 06:07 PM
15.11.11 here.
Good shout though as I never knew this
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