August Spa and 'Ring Trip, image heavy and a couple of words...

[Tim in Belgium]

Well, a few weeks ago I left work on a damp Tuesday afternoon on a packed SV650s, meeting my mate Clarke a.k.a Bob Bobbleton at Stokesley baths on his ’08 Blade. Although it had been chucking it down all afternoon the rain decided to stop for us and we headed off on the Helmsley TT, on towards Pickering before turning off and taking some nice B roads towards Malton. It was then on through the Yorkshire wolds towards Beverley, then round the edge of Hull. Heading in on the DC I sasw a rainbow, then it proceeded to chuck it down for 5 mins, but not to worry we were almost at the ferry. On to the old Hull-Rotterdam ferry and to the bar and buffet for a good feed, followed by some band then bed.

Next day it was up and through Holland, lots of showers, but none heavy enough for us to put on our leathers, after all we’re sports bike riders (or I pretend to be). We stopped off at our favourite southern heading service station (well the only one that we ever stop at) which delivered us a few attractive views and pert behinds.

We motored on through Maastricht and passed Hollands highest hill to Belgium where our first vehicle of the journey overtook us. We were soon of the motorway and onto a few twisties to our first stop at Neils place:

http://www.aeaventures.com/ (http://www.aeaventures.com/)

We dumped our bags then headed to La Roche for some lunch, but doing the road down there a couple of times first ;)

It ****ed down whilst we were eating, then the sun came out for the rest of our afternoon ride. Back at Neil’s it was food with the other guests, a little beer and wine before heading to bed ready for the next day.

Up early the next day to clear blue skies, dropped the kids of at the pool then returned to find the hill fog had rolled in. By the time breakfast had been devoured the mist was clearing and we set of on the quick 5 mins hop to the famous Spa Francochamps circuit.

We arrived, signed in, got handed out transponders, then attended a briefing in French/Dutch which I understood some of before heading out for our first session (which was a little short due to the length of the briefing :( ) Out on track the place was amazing, with just the damp patch. Spa is an amazing circuit with elevation changes out of this world. Favourite corners of the day were Eau Rouge, Pouhon and Blanchimont. Some of our sessions got red flagged but a good day in all that was pretty warm and stayed dry. The lap times came down :

http://www.ris-timing.be/bikers/liste_temps.php?id_pil=4316&id_cou=13 (http://www.ris-timing.be/bikers/liste_temps.php?id_pil=4316&id_cou=13)

And I was pretty pleased with a best lap of 3:12 given the SV’s lack of power, a guy with a GSXR750 staying with us was getting a best of 3:07 in the group above. So a great day and a track I’ll have to return to with more power. Clarke’s transponder failed to work, but he was going at a similar pace to the GSXR750 guy. Unfortunately the photographer was rubbish, and I’ve still to receive Clarke’s odd shot of me, I’ll have to kick the peasant!

More food and beer at Neils before rising the next day and heading to Bren’s place:

http://www.slidersguesthouse.com/ (http://www.slidersguesthouse.com/)

We dropped our stuff off, then headed to the Ring for some laps in the afternoon, a couple with Neil where it was interesting to refine my lines a little, especially haning out for the turn in points:

The SV coming out of Adenauer Forst (I think):

http://inlinethumb60.webshots.com/43963/2446940470084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2446940470084392296rCnawP)

The Blade in the Karussel:

http://inlinethumb09.webshots.com/40776/2154201400084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2154201400084392296sRPnpe)

The SV at somewhere with a big kerb:

http://inlinethumb63.webshots.com/44094/2456139110084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2456139110084392296QHTFMr)

The Blade there as well:

http://inlinethumb20.webshots.com/1235/2129408490084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2129408490084392296IoyTFa)

It was then off for a Chinese from Bren’s place, the car drivers providing the taxis ;)

The next day there was an 4hr salon car endurance race, so we grabbed some food (apple strudel) than watched some of the racing:

http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/41181/2034713730084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2034713730084392296FYJFkS)

http://inlinethumb04.webshots.com/42051/2872773890084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2872773890084392296gwtbhA)

http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/40576/2269386610084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2269386610084392296zyqVYm)

http://inlinethumb52.webshots.com/41779/2116534090084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2116534090084392296QrtGWO)

http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/18554/2494366390084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2494366390084392296SzAvRN)

When the ‘Ring opened we went out for a few evening laps, in the braking zone (I hope):

http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/43682/2298336390084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2298336390084392296mrnSAw)

http://inlinethumb20.webshots.com/7187/2081282100084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2081282100084392296wrMPjr)

[Tim in Belgium]

Pt II


We then went out for a quick ride in Adam’s Prelude, pretty surreal after having been out on the bike, A tidy lap in a lowish (200bhp) powered car, thanks again for the ride Adam. Although it nearly finished Clarke off, sitting in one piece leathers in a hot car round the ‘Ring is only for the fit! :

http://inlinethumb56.webshots.com/40567/2544149390084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2544149390084392296DBQrmk)

We left Slider’s early Sunday, in the cool on Squidgy tyres, dancing through the shadows on the valley floor, staring through a misting up visor. 5km from the ‘Ring and the warmth started to seep through. To Mr Ed’s to fill up with fuel and to the ‘Ring, bathed in beautiful low golden sun. After a first recce lap (overtaking a desmodecci RR!) to reveal all was dry it was two of the best laps of my life there, empty track, long shadows, high contrast, I was living in my own film set or my version of heaven. One of my life’s highs.

Came in for 15 mins, then went out again, it’d be rude not too! A little more traffic but still good fun. Got some more laps in through out the day:

SV in:

http://inlinethumb39.webshots.com/2598/2354430970084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2354430970084392296pyHYUv)

SV out (is that my black line?):

http://inlinethumb23.webshots.com/25302/2132181270084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2132181270084392296ARLWJG)

Blade in:

http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/43520/2278610260084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2278610260084392296GfegEC)

Blade out(is that his black line?):

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[URL=http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2752679520084392296CpqyED]http://inlinethumb23.webshots.com/28182/2752679520084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2278610260084392296GfegEC)

SV going in and in again:

http://inlinethumb08.webshots.com/24839/2308254630084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2308254630084392296OzDxZD)

http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/7786/2754815960084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2754815960084392296ZZoWVU)

SV Going round:

http://inlinethumb21.webshots.com/32148/2102416680084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2102416680084392296kvwguu)

http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/42298/2113836630084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2113836630084392296wcQSFS)

http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/41678/2989504740084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2989504740084392296BsMwpP)

http://inlinethumb17.webshots.com/41040/2769548310084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2769548310084392296TcHsRp)

The Sv after Eiskurve?

http://inlinethumb55.webshots.com/41334/2263909830084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2263909830084392296QPMYGZ)

http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/40478/2792843850084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2792843850084392296hIYCjm)

http://inlinethumb08.webshots.com/43847/2494873630084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2494873630084392296HaFqQV)

SV at Wehrseifen exit?:

http://inlinethumb54.webshots.com/42805/2568536140084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2568536140084392296ePKZET)

Blade through Wehrseifen?:

http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/42002/2809099920084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2809099920084392296RgkkwU)

http://inlinethumb22.webshots.com/43285/2024371570084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2024371570084392296TQExQt)

http://inlinethumb08.webshots.com/41863/2784878210084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2784878210084392296Krvwyl)

http://inlinethumb34.webshots.com/41761/2015709570084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2015709570084392296lBdGSY)

So a great weekend of ‘Ringing, firstly we had no accidents, secondly it stayed dry, thirdly we had 28 laps a piece :)

Taking the years total to 58 laps, and lifetime bike and car total to 93.

It was back to Bren’s then for take away pizza, packing up the next day riding through a drizzly Holland, an overnight ferry crossing watching Top Secret, a damp Helmsley TT in the morning, a quick shower then back to work for the afternoon. Living the dream.

[Dave The Rave]

Bloody heck Tim, you may as well move over there. Lovely pictures mate. Weather looked good too.

[simesb]

Taking the years total to 58 laps, and lifetime bike and car total to 93.

You like the 'Ring then? :cool:

Top write-up - will you get there more next year when you're in Holland?

[Binky]

Sounds like you had a good time. I will hopefully go back to the 'Ring sometime and maybe even smaple Eau Rouge as well.

I see you managed to get some decent photos of yourselves as well. More than we managed when we went. ...I looke at those thirty odd websites for photos and not one had any of us. :(

[Balky001]

Nice picks, great shots, so many people don't lean that much on the ring but still quick. You have done loads of laps, are you under the 10 minute mark yet?

[Binky]

Nice picks, great shots, so many people don't lean that much on the ring but still quick. You have done loads of laps, are you under the 10 minute mark yet?

I wouldn't be surprised if Tim's not breaking the 9 minute mark.

[Zombie Jesus]

nice report + pics tim :cool: I gotta get my ass down there next year

[chakraist]

Looks like you had an excellent time, is that 9:48 your laptime round the ring in your sig?

[Tim in Belgium]

Unluckily my lap timing device (£4.99 stopwatch) conked out just before I attached it to the top yoke with duct-tape, so I'm unsure of my BTG time now. Although comparing against some car drivers that were timing I'd guess I'm either just above or just below the 9 min mark on a good clear lap, but I'm not 100% sure, I'm definitely quicker than last year (9:48 BTG) and am hitting about 135 on the downhill straights into Schwadenkreuz and the Fuchshohre. I love the turn in to Schwadenkreuz too, along with the Hit part of Miss-Hit-Miss.

Planning on doing a course there next year and going back with a bigger bike, with the nokia GPS phone timing set up ;)

And SimesB, I'll be buying a year's pass there for next year, and hope for at least 5 trips, getting a tow/wet weather car for the place too for when it's damp/raining/very cold :) It'll only be about 4.5 hours from home when towing.

[Balky001]

Planning on doing a course there next year and going back with a bigger bike, with the nokia GPS phone timing set up ;)

.

I can't remember the section names but the miss it miss was a bugger, especially the left then right before it. Always lost where I was until I was through them. Just out of interest, my mate did the Motorrad couse which was just for experienced riders (must have done 2 courses) and they had 4 laps without having to go through the paddock area. He reckoned the bridge came up so quickly at 180 on a blade.

9 minutes is exceptionally fast. I'd love to go again next year, I'll keep my eye out for your tour dates

[Tim in Belgium]

9 mins is only BTG, missing out the whole on/off straight though. And quick bikes/guys do just over 7 1/2 on bikes BTG, now that is quick.

I'm now at a stage where I can remember all the corners, my normal braking and turn in points, where bumps are (like waiting for the small then big bump at Hohe Acht before putting the power down).

I know it sounds sad but learning the majority of the corner names helped me to visualise and learn the circuit, and you can also pretend to be a pro back in the bar afterwards, instead of saying, "Know that corner after that other corner".

I'll post up my planned daters next year when and as I know, I may even be able to pick up 1 bike and rider from Rotterdam ferry terminal, saving miles, fuel, tyre and bike wear.

[Zombie Jesus]

what sort of time do you reckon you can do around cadwell tim?

I've half written a program that will read in a bunch of coords from a gps data logger then work out lap and split times for the whole day, going to test it at silverstone and pembrey later this month :p

[Tim in Belgium]

At Cadwell I was getting around 1 min 55 according to my Dad who was watching me.

GPS datalogger software sounds interesting, the nokia software is available for free down load and has a whole load of tracks in, but I need to upgrade my phone to use it.

Hope to see you out at the Nurburgring sometime next year, I've used up my TD budget for this year, but have fun at Pembrey and Silverstone.

[carty]

Not trying to big ourselves up (well maybe I am!) but Neil reckoned me and DMC were doing about 9-9m30s laps on our 3rd and 4th laps round the circuit. Both on GSX-R600's though. I want to time it next year! I was more worried about getting through it in one piece though on my first time out there:)

Great pics Tim and you obviously got lucky with the photographers - as Binky said we didn't manage to get any photos between seven of us! :(

Cheers,
Matt

[Warthog]

Nice write-up Tim! You seem properly cranked over in some of those pics, one of them looks like you have disappeared off the other side of the bike! I'd love to try the ring one day.

[Gene genie]

cool piccys tim.

[Tim in Belgium]

Nice write-up Tim! You seem properly cranked over in some of those pics, one of them looks like you have disappeared off the other side of the bike! I'd love to try the ring one day.


Only way to get round at speed when the pegs start to grind and the knee is down, hang off like a monkey! But it makes for good fun and silly pics too :)

[rob13]

I think when I timed you round Croft, you were doing about 1.35.

[simesb]

At Cadwell I was getting around 1 min 55 according to my Dad who was watching me.

GPS datalogger software sounds interesting, the nokia software is available for free down load and has a whole load of tracks in, but I need to upgrade my phone to use it.

Hope to see you out at the Nurburgring sometime next year, I've used up my TD budget for this year, but have fun at Pembrey and Silverstone.

You video some of your sessions don't you - can you not tell from the timestamps on that?

[Tim in Belgium]

Yep, got my first time at Croft this year I think Iwas in the 1min 49-50s, at Croft IIRC, so either I improved a lot or Rob had a slow stopwatch, but no more video since as my cam corder broke :(

[Tim in Belgium]

Well, a few more photos from Clarke’s camera:

Infamous Eau Rouge

http://inlinethumb23.webshots.com/41430/2994389460084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2994389460084392296tsMjaO)

Heading down to Eau Rouge:

http://inlinethumb10.webshots.com/43273/2071957480084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2071957480084392296Hwnqdk)

http://inlinethumb62.webshots.com/41021/2811571720084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2811571720084392296hHbYBn)

Clarke watching the racing in the sun, who said one pieces are impractical for touring?

http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/9120/2638489550084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2638489550084392296MATTfa)

Blade and SV in the ‘Ring car park:

http://inlinethumb58.webshots.com/40825/2582904230084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2582904230084392296FqlGCJ)

http://inlinethumb26.webshots.com/41881/2572947920084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2572947920084392296tgHymI)

Givin’ the SV some luvvin:

http://inlinethumb10.webshots.com/41737/2052486120084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2052486120084392296DnKbPW)

Clarke still to bond with the ‘Blade to the same degree:

http://inlinethumb38.webshots.com/10021/2749962350084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2749962350084392296mUsSfl)

In front of the map so we wouldn’t get lost..

http://inlinethumb10.webshots.com/43785/2220547700084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2220547700084392296DqihTC)

http://inlinethumb61.webshots.com/41020/2720274930084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2720274930084392296WNmvgQ)

Back at Sliders enjoying a beer:

http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/36640/2712813390084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2712813390084392296AmWwLa)

http://inlinethumb27.webshots.com/43674/2623119300084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2623119300084392296jURmyr)

The tidy pad at Sliders!

http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/42298/2728924490084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2728924490084392296RqZsqZ)

http://inlinethumb47.webshots.com/44014/2527881590084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2527881590084392296XhpWXH)

http://inlinethumb54.webshots.com/20469/2728783300084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2728783300084392296KuIrfs)

[rob13]

Clarke looks like he needed that beer.

Nice CB1000r on those pics.

[Jester666]

Sorry for being thick but, BTG?

[Tim in Belgium]

BTG = Bridge to Gantry, as when the Nurburgring is open to tourists the long back straight is used for controlling traffic on and off the track, with toll booths etc so you can't get a flying lap. Hence people time themselves when going under the first bridge to the final gantry. These are the times in the PB mag bike tests last year.

[BLACKFIRE]

I am bein thick here but when i looked on Website for Nurburgring i couldnt fanthom wether it was still open to public in November.
I am hoping to buy my fella some laps on the ring and organise a surprise trip to Germany in mid November, just a long weekend. Sliders B&B looks good.
I dont know how to go about this :confused: (I might even buy myself some laps if im feeling brave :rolleyes:)
Any help or links or info would be much appreciated pleeeese ... Thank you muchly

[Tim in Belgium]

Had a quick look and it appears that the following dates are available:

Starting dateTimeEventSaturday, 01.11.0808:00 until 17:00 hTouristenfahrten, 01.11.2008 (http://www.nuerburgring.de/Single-View.184.0.html?&tx_rlmpeventdb_pi1[showUid]=361&cHash=fc31201936)
(Nordschleife) Sunday, 02.11.0808:00 until 13:00 hRundstrecken Challenge Nürburgring (http://www.nuerburgring.de/Single-View.184.0.html?&tx_rlmpeventdb_pi1[showUid]=469&cHash=c1bf6a9b2c)
(Nordschleife) 13:30 until 17:00 hTouristenfahrten, 02.11.2008 (http://www.nuerburgring.de/Single-View.184.0.html?&tx_rlmpeventdb_pi1[showUid]=362&cHash=5c159e9d5b)
(Nordschleife) Saturday, 08.11.0813:30 until 19:00 hTouristenfahrten, 08.11.2008 (http://www.nuerburgring.de/Single-View.184.0.html?&tx_rlmpeventdb_pi1[showUid]=363&cHash=1cf5886a4d)
(Nordschleife) Sunday, 09.11.0809:00 until 16:30 hTouristenfahrten, 09.11.2008 (http://www.nuerburgring.de/Single-View.184.0.html?&tx_rlmpeventdb_pi1[showUid]=364&cHash=b454744993)
(Nordschleife) Saturday, 15.11.0809:00 until 16:30 hTouristenfahrten, 15.11.2008 (http://www.nuerburgring.de/Single-View.184.0.html?&tx_rlmpeventdb_pi1[showUid]=365&cHash=a982f0605d)
(Nordschleife) Sunday, 16.11.0809:00 until 16:30 hTouristenfahrten, 16.11.2008 (http://www.nuerburgring.de/Single-View.184.0.html?&tx_rlmpeventdb_pi1[showUid]=391&cHash=1b421d0af9)
(Nordschleife) Saturday, 22.11.0809:00 until 16:30 hTouristenfahrten, 22.11.2008 (http://www.nuerburgring.de/Single-View.184.0.html?&tx_rlmpeventdb_pi1[showUid]=366&cHash=f97919fe53)
(Nordschleife) Sunday, 23.11.0809:00 until 16:30 hTouristenfahrten, 23.11.2008 (http://www.nuerburgring.de/Single-View.184.0.html?&tx_rlmpeventdb_pi1[showUid]=367&cHash=2790dd7748)
(Nordschleife) Saturday, 29.11.0809:00 until 16:30 hTouristenfahrten, 29.11.2008 (http://www.nuerburgring.de/Single-View.184.0.html?&tx_rlmpeventdb_pi1[showUid]=368&cHash=9476538c5a)
(Nordschleife) Sunday, 30.11.0809:00 until
16:30 hTouristenfahrten, 03.11.2008 (http://www.nuerburgring.de/Single-View.184.0.html?&tx_rlmpeventdb_pi1[showUid]=369&cHash=080f30de8a)
(Nordschleife)


Be aware that weather could be iffy at this time of year though and dates do change sometimes.

If you go to the page below:

http://www.nuerburgring.de/index.php?id=286

you can enter your dates you are interested in, Touristfahrten is when you can just pay and go on (or eat too many Wurst and have wind problems ;) ).

[bob bobbleton]

Well now I am the proud owner of the SV and the Blade.
Although I think the previous owner has thrashed it somewhat.....

Good write up Tim.

Bob Bobbleton.
2 bike family.
Blade and SV.
KTM to arrive as pre christmas gift from me to me.

[Tim in Belgium]

Bob Bobbleton, good luck in bringing bobbles to the bobbleless on here ;)

3 bikes purchased in one year is too much though!

[rob13]

Bob you getting a KTM as well? You lucky *******! Which one you getting?

Oh and yes, I think the previous owner really did thrash that SV.