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Unfortunately I did a bit of ditch jumping in scotland today and as a result I appear to have done some severe damage to my front end (forks/yokes) and was after some advice on the best fixes, whether I should go all standard, or look at GSXR conversion (and if so, how on earth you do it etc). Can anyone offer some advice?
Thanks
Please someone help me! I'm stuck in edinburgh, I live in Derby, I have a bike left at the local suzuki dealers and I need some way to sort it out :( Dropped it off at 8pm and the guy who'd stayed late to take it in looked at it and pulled the figure of £1500 out of the air for full fix back to standard. There must be a cheaper way to do this!
Please someone help me! I'm stuck in edinburgh, I live in Derby, I have a bike left at the local suzuki dealers and I need some way to sort it out :( Dropped it off at 8pm and the guy who'd stayed late to take it in looked at it and pulled the figure of £1500 out of the air for full fix back to standard. There must be a cheaper way to do this!
I'd ;put an appeal on the wanted section of this forum. There's a few here who've done GSXR conversions and have a good front end left over.
Thanks, have put a brief post in there as well!
yorkie_chris
03-09-08, 10:52 PM
I got a set of SRAD600 forks, bottom yoke and spindle for 40 quid. Far superior stuff.
How hard would it be to make the SRAD forks fit? different wheel needed? and to make all the ancillaries etc work with them. what kind of condition are they in? are they suitable for the sv? obviously much older forks . . . Sorry for so many questions i'm just a bit clueless on all of this and need as much info as possible asap!
yorkie_chris
03-09-08, 10:59 PM
SRad was up to 2000 IIRC so not much older... you need whole SRAD front end to make it easy, wheel, discs, calipers (4 pot :-D), yokes, mudguard and a new top bearing from TWF.
This is about curvys, pointies are easier because you use same bearings, but later GSXR parts.
husky03
03-09-08, 11:08 PM
I've a spare set of curvy forks and pretty sure theres top and bottom yokes somewhere also-Near Glasgow -pm me if interested-if bike is rideable you could use my garage to do swap over
husky
It's a pointy, k6 I think (2006 year) so I don't know if that would mean the curvey forks wouldn't fit? Or the SRAD ones?
And although I didn't try I'm pretty sure it's unrideable, forks are fairly ****ed and can't get full lock for turning left cause the brake lever catches the fairing, making it pretty unmanouverable!
Most important is to assess exactly what is damaged. The lock stops on the frame for instance may be damaged. The forks are clearly damaged, but that won't explain the brake lever issue. It's important to assess each part carefully.
For a full GSXR front-end conversion you will need:
Wheel
Front Axel
Top Yoke
Bottom Yoke
Brake calipers
Brake lines
Clip-ons (replacement bars)
Speedo pickup
Front Brake discs
Front Mudguard
Potentially needed consumables:
Front brake pads (assuming the discs and calipers are from different bikes).
Front brake caliper seal kit (if calipers require re-build)
Front Tyre (120/70 R17)
Head race bearings
Front wheel bearings
Front fork oil / service
As you can see, none of this is beyond reason, but it all adds up, most of the people that have broken even on a GSXR conversion have been very careful about buying parts over time when they came up at the right price. If you want the bike back on the road right now, you need pretty much the whole lot above to come up in good condition, undamaged for a good price. You will be buying parts of unknown history so forks and brake calipers should be serviced.
Faced with that list, it's important to know what's wrong with your bike in some detail. If it's just the forks damaged, you can just pay to replace them, and look at a GSXR or similar front end in your own time.
Jambo
yorkie_chris
04-09-08, 01:21 PM
The standard SV fitment 160/60ZR17 tyre works fine on gsxr wheel and forks etc
The standard SV fitment 160/60ZR17 tyre works fine on gsxr wheel and forks etc
Wow, talk about being over-tyred on the front. Your bike must handle like **** with a 160 in the front, if the wheel is able to turn at all ;)
yorkie_chris
04-09-08, 01:25 PM
Bugger I meant 120!
guy on sale section is breaking a pointy at the mo. i would PM for a price on all the stuff from his.
I got a set of SRAD600 forks, bottom yoke and spindle for 40 quid. Far superior stuff.
If this is still available at the beginning of Oct, I'll take it!
yorkie_chris
04-09-08, 02:33 PM
No I mean that's what I found mine for... not for sale ;-)
No I mean that's what I found mine for... not for sale ;-)
Oh.
Oh I see.
:(
northwind
04-09-08, 04:58 PM
Is it in Saltire Suzuki? They're generally fairly trustworthy for whatever that's worth.
I totally agree about the GSXR suggestions, SV forks are mentally expensive but older GSXR stuff is cheap. It's an upgrade as well of course but it's also the cheap option, total win. But that depends on whether the old parts need to be entirely replaced, and the price tag suggests you have.
northwind
04-09-08, 04:59 PM
Oh aye, if it's still stuck in edinburgh, and you can get the bike and parts to me, I'll put it back together for you... I can't transport it or anything but I'll happily unbend it.
aye it's in saltire suzuki, and I'm stuck in edinburgh, currently trying to figure out what to do, found a pair of pretty much new forks from a guy breaking an SV on fleabay for about £190, thinking that'll bring the price down a touch, but it's all a bit of a mess as it won't be fixed in time for me to get to work in Derby on monday.
Thanks for the offer but I've no way of transporting the bike to you, and no bits to fix it with currently!
its a pity it wasent next week m8, i'll have a full brand new set from a k8. forks, yokes, mudguard, bolts, brakes, wheel, tyre, rear shokky and probebly a rear tyre up for graps, basically take ur castel nuts ignitian and controlls and put these on. and i'm in fife and would deliver.. mabee even fit if i had the time.. price wise .. around £500
northwind
04-09-08, 05:27 PM
No probs... If there's anything I can do to help though, give us a shout. You can find my mobile number in the Ecosse section with a bit of google-fu. Good luck!
plans have moved further ahead... parts i was wating on are here so swap goes ahead 2morra....
so there will be a full new set of forks avalible for saturday .. if i can arange it (depending on how buisy my mate is) i can have bike picked up and droped off aswel. so you should be on your way sunday no problems
Interceptor
04-09-08, 07:48 PM
Most important is to assess exactly what is damaged. The lock stops on the frame for instance may be damaged. The forks are clearly damaged, but that won't explain the brake lever issue. It's important to assess each part carefully.
For a full GSXR front-end conversion you will need:
Wheel
Front Axel
Top Yoke
Bottom Yoke
Brake calipers
Brake lines
Clip-ons (replacement bars)
Speedo pickup
Front Brake discs
Front Mudguard
Potentially needed consumables:
Front brake pads (assuming the discs and calipers are from different bikes).
Front brake caliper seal kit (if calipers require re-build)
Front Tyre (120/70 R17)
Head race bearings
Front wheel bearings
Front fork oil / service
As you can see, none of this is beyond reason, but it all adds up, most of the people that have broken even on a GSXR conversion have been very careful about buying parts over time when they came up at the right price. If you want the bike back on the road right now, you need pretty much the whole lot above to come up in good condition, undamaged for a good price. You will be buying parts of unknown history so forks and brake calipers should be serviced.
Faced with that list, it's important to know what's wrong with your bike in some detail. If it's just the forks damaged, you can just pay to replace them, and look at a GSXR or similar front end in your own time.
Jambo
Great info, think I'll start lookin' for stuff now................;)
Bibio, I'm extremely interested! I'll PM you with my details!
toby's bike is up and running again with a nice new front end...
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