View Full Version : now this is a good looking sv thou
jans1971
09-09-08, 09:27 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2006-SUZUKI-SV-1000-SK6-GREY-700-Extras-betterThen-650_W0QQitemZ130249785711QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item1 30249785711&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A7%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
I agree nice bike - not bad price either!
jans1971
09-09-08, 09:41 PM
I agree nice bike - not bad price either!
yeah i thought it was a price as well , if i had the money id go for it
dizzyblonde
09-09-08, 09:46 PM
very pretty for a pointy. Not keen on the lowers, if i bought it, that would be the first thing I'd take off. Unusual colour...was that a factory one, cause i can't say I've seen one like it
xXBADGERXx
09-09-08, 09:46 PM
Don`t know how it can be better than showroom condition , still , it`s a nice idea with the vinyls tastefully applied , I wouldn`t have those indicators though , like mine to be seen :D
If you like riding on SV650 you will absolutely love riding on 1000. It is perfect.
Yes because its totally different handling
yes because its totally different handling
barge
ThEGr33k
09-09-08, 11:37 PM
Not half bad. Put a gixxer front end on and make the thing turn and W00t :D
ThEGr33k
09-09-08, 11:40 PM
Yes because its totally different handling
Indeed. I didnt like it :( The Falco is more like the SV650 for riding position, you feel like you are sat on it (SV1000 that is) not in it like the 650. nice bike still just not a bigger SV650. :(
chakraist
09-09-08, 11:52 PM
I don't think that's a very good looking sv1000
yorkie_chris
10-09-08, 12:02 AM
Reminds me of a VFR for some reason
ThEGr33k
10-09-08, 12:04 AM
Reminds me of a VFR for some reason
Ahhh thats just because you are weird mate ;)
Looks a bit of a tart's handbag to me - not keen on the chrome effect slapped on here and there and the awful polished resevoir caps. I do like the black and silver colour scheme and black wheels, but it could do without the striping on them.
yorkie_chris
10-09-08, 12:08 AM
Yeah but at least I don't own anything italian ..... ahhh f###....
ThEGr33k
10-09-08, 12:14 AM
Yeah but at least I don't own anything italian ..... ahhh f###....
What do you own that Italian? I presume thats what you ment; or you were scared you were setting me off? Bah. I know you want a Falco... you are just denying yourself the pleasure. :rolleyes:
Dangerous Dave
10-09-08, 07:38 AM
Nice, take the lower fairing off and fit the belly pan back on and it will look a lot better.
http://i23.ebayimg.com/07/i/001/07/b8/fe77_1.JPG (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130249785711&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting)
Reminds me of a VFR for some reason
I thought they were going for an R1 effect (from the front anyway)
At least it is original and tasteful (unlike some ebay bikes shown on here recently ;) )
dizzyblonde
10-09-08, 08:36 AM
Yeah but at least I don't own anything italian ..... ahhh f###....
What do you own that Italian? I presume thats what you ment; or you were scared you were setting me off? Bah. I know you want a Falco... you are just denying yourself the pleasure. :rolleyes:
Hes not secretly wanting a Falco Greek...he secretly wants a Raptor....:rolleyes:
DanAbnormal
10-09-08, 08:46 AM
Reminds me of a Fazer for some reason. Gah!
Not my cup of tea.
barge
+1. Lots of people that have owned both 650's and thou's say that the handling on a 650 is better than a thou, so I'm not sure if that's a selling point for this bike.
I don't think that's a very good looking sv1000
+1. I don't like the black on the front of the bikini fairing.
Reminds me of a VFR for some reason
+1, only not as nice as a VFR.
Flamin_Squirrel
10-09-08, 08:58 AM
Indeed. I didnt like it :( The Falco is more like the SV650 for riding position, you feel like you are sat on it (SV1000 that is) not in it like the 650.
The 650 and 1000 are almost exactly the same dimensions, how'd you work that one out?
+1. Lots of people that have owned both 650's and thou's say that the handling on a 650 is better than a thou, so I'm not sure if that's a selling point for this bike.
I've got a 650 and 1000, and to that I say, cobblers. It seems that someone somehow came to this conclusion a few years back, it's stuck and become the common concensus. Try one and make your own mind up.
I'm not the fastest rider in the world by any means, but I'm not that slow either. For road riding at least, I think most without preconcieved ideas would view the 1000 as the 650s big bro.
Dappa D
10-09-08, 09:01 AM
i like it...wrong shape tho!!
they say "Brake fluid cap-£10"
anyone know where u can get one for ten pound? ive only seen them for £20 +
Nice, take the lower fairing off and fit the belly pan back on and it will look a lot better.
http://i23.ebayimg.com/07/i/001/07/b8/fe77_1.JPG (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130249785711&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting)
+1
or paint it blue and pink and with betty boo graffix:smt047
Haha, "I have also pillow seat" :)
Nice bike, though. Grey belly pan would be better than the lowers, and I'm not convinced that the black stickers around the headlights are particularly well conceived or executed.
ThEGr33k
10-09-08, 11:34 AM
The 650 and 1000 are almost exactly the same dimensions, how'd you work that one out?
I've got a 650 and 1000, and to that I say, cobblers. It seems that someone somehow came to this conclusion a few years back, it's stuck and become the common concensus. Try one and make your own mind up.
I'm not the fastest rider in the world by any means, but I'm not that slow either. For road riding at least, I think most without preconcieved ideas would view the 1000 as the 650s big bro.
Ive ridden both back to back and thats how it felt to me. Both S. The 1000 felt awful compaired to the 650. :( Hence the reason I dont have one... I dont mean the SV1000 is a bad bike, its far from it. Its just not a bigger 650 imo.
Dangerous Dave
10-09-08, 11:45 AM
The SV1000 shares only the body work with the SV650, the rest of the bike is completely different. It handles different, it performs different,...
The SV1000 is not a bigger version of the SV650, it is a whole new motorcycle and shares no real similarities with the SV650 when you ride it.
Supervox
10-09-08, 12:00 PM
This looks absolutely revolting !!
Take the fairing away - add a belly pan & it would be far better !! :p
Seriously though, the black lowers just make me think that the bike has been down the road & the owner couldn't afford colour matched replacements - as for the Gixxeresque 'R' stickers - what's that all about then ??
It may be a tidy, well kept bike - but don't try to pretend that its anything other than what it is - a (thirsty) Sports Tourer.
Well I won't buy that then.....now where the phone number for the bloke with the CBR?
Ive ridden both back to back and thats how it felt to me. Both S. The 1000 felt awful compaired to the 650. :( Hence the reason I dont have one... I dont mean the SV1000 is a bad bike, its far from it. Its just not a bigger 650 imo.
I totally agree with the Squirrel. I did about 10K on my pointy 650S and about 6K and three track days on my Sv thou. I may have got very used to the thou but I find the handling is just as good as the 6 1/2 but with better brakes and suspension. You can't claim anything from a back to back because the thou may not have been set up for you. When I got mine it wouldn't hold a line and would try to run wide. It also wallowed in long bends, but a new quality set of tryes and tweeking the spendies sorted it all out. I love it.
Ratty
yorkie_chris
10-09-08, 10:15 PM
Yup, lots slag off the thou because it doesn't feel as good as a 650 that they've tweaked for themselves over the course of a couple of years!
That said, it still doesn't do anything for me, even though they're a nice bike.
For me, the thou is a very different bike to the 650. I had a curvy 650 for four years, and loved it. However, even with O10s I never felt that confident on it in corners - it dropped in just fine, however I always felt like it was either pushing wide or would just wash out all together.
When I part exed the 650 for a thou 4 1/12 years ago, initially I missed the 650 - the thou needs to be 'muscled in to a corner' rather than just dropping in. However, once you have got the line right with a thou it will sit there absolutely solid - the extra weight and better than 650 suspension makes a big difference once you get used to it.
The mistake that a lot of people make is thinking is that the thou is just a 650 with a bit more grunt - it is a lot more than that however 650 riders do need to adapt their riding style to get the most from a thou.
A good looking Thou? Not as far as I'm concerned, looks rubbish.
And at £3,500, I'd be looking elsewhere... too many extras.
Dangerous Dave
11-09-08, 04:58 PM
I totally agree with the Squirrel. I did about 10K on my pointy 650S and about 6K and three track days on my Sv thou. I may have got very used to the thou but I find the handling is just as good as the 6 1/2 but with better brakes and suspension. You can't claim anything from a back to back because the thou may not have been set up for you. When I got mine it wouldn't hold a line and would try to run wide. It also wallowed in long bends, but a new quality set of tryes and tweeking the spendies sorted it all out. I love it.
Ratty
That is a pointless comparison, any bike with twiddled and tweaked suspension is going to feel good.
I think what Gr33k is trying to point out, and what my experience fully agrees with, is that both the SV650 and SV1000 are two completely different bikes to ride straight out of the crate. It is not a matter of one having a bigger and more powerful engine than the other.
Bog standard out of the crate, the SV1000 is a overweight (and underpowered for its weight) bus.
Flamin_Squirrel
11-09-08, 05:56 PM
That is a pointless comparison, any bike with twiddled and tweaked suspension is going to feel good.
I think what Gr33k is trying to point out, and what my experience fully agrees with, is that both the SV650 and SV1000 are two completely different bikes to ride straight out of the crate. It is not a matter of one having a bigger and more powerful engine than the other.
Bog standard out of the crate, the SV1000 is a overweight (and underpowered for its weight) bus.
:-s
They're not supposed to be ridden straight out of the crate, the suspension is adjustable for a reason. In fact if you don't and one is setup better for you than the other what's the point in comparing? That makes no sense.
As for being a bus, piffle. The difference in weight is bugger all. In fact, quite frankly, if it felt like a wobbly bus, then that just emphasises the fact the suspension was completely wrong for you.
Dangerous Dave
11-09-08, 06:02 PM
The adjustment on the SV1000 is very limited to do yourself.
kwak zzr
11-09-08, 06:12 PM
i found my sv1000 planted but fast bends 100+ the back end still couldn't cope, it was the ability to steer quickly and change direction quickly on the 650 that was good and the 1000 didn't have that, i enjoyed my 650 more but the thou was also a nice bike but in a tourer kind of way.
Flamin_Squirrel
11-09-08, 07:01 PM
The adjustment on the SV1000 is very limited to do yourself.
How do you know if you've not tried? There's more than enough adjustment to ruin the handling of the bike if not done to suit you.
I'm not pretending the SV1000 is a razor sharp sports bike that you've simply failed to setup or anything, it's just that if you think the 650 with its incredibly basic suspension handles better than the 1000 you've done something wrong.
Dangerous Dave
11-09-08, 07:13 PM
How do you know if you've not tried?
Who said I have never tried???
I'm not pretending the SV1000 is a razor sharp sports bike that you've simply failed to setup or anything, it's just that if you think the 650 with its incredibly basic suspension handles better than the 1000 you've done something wrong.
Who said the SV1000 was better handling than the SV650??? I said they were two different bikes to ride, and they are!
The bus comment I did make!!! Push the SV1000 and it turns into a bus, if it didn't then why do people spend a fortune in sorting the suspension out professionally? It runs wide, it doesn't hold a line and is notorious for needing a lot of effort to get from side to side. Countless suspension people will tell you this and countless wanna be racer press road testers will tell you this too.
The adjustment on the SV1000 is very limited to do yourself.
It's three way adjustable at either end and I put mine back to factory settings which improved things massively to what it was. I only explored a couple of clicks from there and was totally happy. It's been great on the track and on my fav road with reasonable ground clearance for a 'tourer', as seen if you click on the pics below.
Ratty
ThEGr33k
12-09-08, 12:23 AM
Can you raise the rear on them? Thats what most bikes need these days. it seems if they arnt out and out sports bike they make the stearing so damn neutral that it doesnt change direction so well :( Ill be getting a penske shock next week to fix this design flaw, then some correctly sprung springs as well. :D
maybe that was the main problem I had, maybe the bike is spring too hard fro me? Something wasnt nice for me :(
I take it Ratty you have got to the edge of the tyres? :p
I need to get my mate to get a longer lense so we can see what angle I can manage... There is a pic on my profile with me leaned over and it was at the edge of the tyre but with the angle it doesnt look like much :(
yorkie_chris
12-09-08, 12:25 AM
It's not a design flaw, it's a design compromise.
ThEGr33k
12-09-08, 12:28 AM
It's not a design flaw, it's a design compromise.
Pah. Flaw :p I think they do it to make the sports bikes seem better... :mad:
yorkie_chris
12-09-08, 12:32 AM
Or make a sports tourer behave like a sports tourer... Aiming it at whatever market they decide to aim for...
ThEGr33k
12-09-08, 12:36 AM
Or make a sports tourer behave like a sports tourer... Aiming it at whatever market they decide to aim for...
Aye... but this tends not to help with sales... SV and falco are both good examples. Both seem to be heavier than they are because the suspension is setup in such a way the turning feels sluggish and the bikes feel heavy, in real terms they arnt that much heavier than the 1000cc IL4's of today (all around 210-215KG wet). Because of this peopls have gone for the sportier bikes... :rolleyes: get these two setup right and they will give any sports bike a real run for their money!
yorkie_chris
12-09-08, 12:38 AM
Except for being 100 or whatever ponies behind...
ThEGr33k
12-09-08, 12:41 AM
Except for being 100 or whatever ponies behind...
100!? Pah Mine is about 50BHP behind the modern IL41000... Bore out to 1060 and ill only be 30BHP behind. :cool: The extra power only really shows in the streight bits at 100+mph. In the corners a sorted SV1000 could stay with Ill bet! :D
yorkie_chris
12-09-08, 12:43 AM
I was on about SV650
How much for 1060 pistons and rebore? Head work and induction+exhaust to suit?
p.s richen your mix up a bit and you'll gain quite a bit
ThEGr33k
12-09-08, 12:49 AM
I was on about SV650
How much for 1060 pistons and rebore? Head work and induction+exhaust to suit?
Well The piston and gaskets etc are $999 http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=4596
Revbore is $450. PC3 for fueling maybe £300 for full setup. The headers and intake/TB's (51mm stock) are big enough to handle the extra CC's and people get 135-140RWBHP with just that done. :cool: Though some up the TB's to 57mm and some go for the 02+ head with the 38mm intake valves vs the 36mm stock Falco ones. On the Dyno the 1060 Aprilia puts out 10bhp more than a 1098 at mid range and the 1098 only beats the 1060 on output at about 10K rpm by about 5BHP (all done on same dyno on same day, direct comparison...) Impressive!
Anyway... £1500 maybe for everything all in.
Found some pictures of the 'BUS' doing a three point turn at the Edwinas flip flop and looking horribly wobbly at Gerrards. Lozzo will tell you what the probable speed of this corner is.
ThEGr33k
12-09-08, 01:30 AM
Nice Ratty :D Get a shock and raise the rear! Ill let you know how much better mine feels when I get it sorted. Should make the bike turn in dead quick and make the front feel more solid... Not that it feels bad, just it should feel better.
stuartyboy
12-09-08, 02:15 AM
CHAV'S bike!
sv-robo
12-09-08, 01:25 PM
I like it.......but i'm a tart:)
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