View Full Version : 9/11 - poingnant reminder.
We went to NYC last year and stayed in Greenwich village, whilst wandering about one afternoon we came acroos this chain link fence surrounding a parking lot covered in painted tiles, a friendly local explained to us that on 9/11, after the towers fell, people just ran and didnt stop running till they hit Greenwhich village, there are a lot of hospitals in the area and a makeshift blood bank was set up at that spot, later people left messgaes for missing loved ones here as well attached to the same chain link fence. By the time we arrived 6 yrs later the messages had been replaced with painted tiles, these tiles and plates come from all over the world with messages of hope, love, peace and a lot have messages of thanks to the FDNY, anyway thought you might like to see some of them.
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa125/wyoming95/DSC00155-1.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa125/wyoming95/DSC00152-1.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa125/wyoming95/DSC00154-1.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa125/wyoming95/DSC00156-1.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa125/wyoming95/DSC00157-1.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa125/wyoming95/DSC00158-1.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa125/wyoming95/DSC00159-1.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa125/wyoming95/DSC00160-1.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa125/wyoming95/DSC00161-1.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa125/wyoming95/DSC00162-1.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa125/wyoming95/DSC00163-1.jpg
this last one gets me everytime I see it
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa125/wyoming95/DSC00164-1.jpg
jumjum_0214
11-09-08, 09:06 AM
Heart wrenching stuff, a terrible tragedy that will never be forgotten................
MiniMac
11-09-08, 11:31 AM
Terrible event, some of the stuff they have written about Honor etc is mildly vomit inducing imo.
metalmonkey
11-09-08, 12:01 PM
I was in NYC a week or so before 9/11 happened as the yankess call it.
Then returned less than year after it happened, though I didn't experince it first hand I have seen the effect it had on the people involved. The summer camp where I worked a kid called Corbin lost his dad in the towers. He spent quite a lot of time talking to me, me teaching him. So you can imagine how he felt.
The boss of the camp lost one of his close friends, I don't talk so much now about it with them,but it was terriable day.
What I think is even worse is the way Bush and co have you used this event to murder many innocent people, without them being brough to justicse nor will they never be from the looks of things. It was a very dark event in a new century.
timwilky
11-09-08, 12:01 PM
I went to New York a couple of weeks after. (The day the plane crashed on Queens, diverted to Canada for a few hours whilst they worked out if there was another attack happening).
At the end of the street near my hotel was a firehouse with photographs of all the crew that had died. A very poignant reminder to all of those who perished. My hotel was full of firemen visiting for funerals of friends/colleagues. Terrible at the time to think that weeks after, they were still pulling out and identifying remains.
Terrible event, some of the stuff they have written about Honor etc is mildly vomit inducing imo.
I think you have to remember that Americans have a very different psyche to ours. Who are you to say that we are right and they are wrong?
What I think is even worse is the way Bush and co have you used this event to murder many innocent people, without them being brough to justicse nor will they never be from the looks of things.
Strong language. Inappropriate too, I think. The USA didn't ask for this, and is entitled to defend itself.
my wife and i were stuck in montana on 11th september 01. luclily for us, that day was spent driving on ,what is supposed to be the most scenic highway in north america. it was beautifull, but we knew we werent going home the next day, the day we were supposed to.
it was a horrible time to be in america.
so many of the news resports, and papers, told of how anybody with dark skin was being attacked, that was indeed sickening, and indicative of americas inherent racism.
ive spent alot of time in america and have witnessed forst hand how the vast majority of americans are so stuck up their own asses, and this whole thing just made that so more obvious.
i beleive that people high up let this happen, a big conspiracy.
and before anybody acuses me of being really zenophoibic towards amerians, my wife is american, and feels even stronger about it than i do!! :)
Do you honestly think that if this happened in any other country the Americans would even give it a passing thought?
Do they remember 7/7 or the Spanish train bombing?
A terrible event used as an excuse to do far, far worse.
Strong language. Inappropriate too, I think. The USA didn't ask for this, and is entitled to defend itself.
:smt018
A terrible event used as an excuse to do far, far worse.
well said
metalmonkey
11-09-08, 10:55 PM
I think you have to remember that Americans have a very different psyche to ours. Who are you to say that we are right and they are wrong?
Strong language. Inappropriate too, I think. The USA didn't ask for this, and is entitled to defend itself.
I really don't think so at all. I know the personel effect it has had on people as I already said I doubt many people here do.
What I hate is the way US reacted, which is unjust. In the name of the people who died on 9/11.
I flew home from on 9/11 2002 (when I booked the flight I didn't think check the date for any spceail reason), it was a very werid time time, the news crazy predicting attacks everywhere, it was a tool used to contol people and very effective it was too. Like I said in another post the way the media works is scary, it twisted everything around.
I first went to NYC when I was 18, its changed since 9/11 quite a bit and so how has the US. Bush is bad for the US.
Thats my opion which I more than happy to justify it.
BanannaMan
12-09-08, 02:12 AM
From an American's point of view:
What I think is even worse is the way Bush and co have you used this event to murder many innocent people, without them being brough to justicse nor will they never be from the looks of things.
http://cenvachristiansportbike.homestead.com/_1.gif
it was a horrible time to be in america.
so many of the news resports, and papers, told of how anybody with dark skin was being attacked, that was indeed sickening, and indicative of americas inherent racism.
http://cenvachristiansportbike.homestead.com/files/Disappointed_anim.gif This is not true.
Maybe a few isolated incidents but prejudice is everywhere...
It's not like it's Belfast over here or anything. ;)
Do you honestly think that if this happened in any other country the Americans would even give it a passing thought?
Do they remember 7/7 or the Spanish train bombing?
A terrible event used as an excuse to do far, far worse.
No.
No.
Yes.
it was a very werid time time, the news crazy predicting attacks everywhere, it was a tool used to contol people and very effective it was too. Like I said in another post the way the media works is scary, it twisted everything around.
This is true....as was the other post.
Bush is bad for the entire world.
Corrected for you. ;-)
You'd be amazed at how many Americans think that Iraq was responsible the 9/11 attacks.
And have heard of, but don't know who Osama Bin Laden is.
:rolleyes:
Peeps - we'll have to agree to disagree:smt058
Without a doubt, 9/11 was a terrible event and should quite rightly be remembered. However, what doesnt get remembered, or widely reported, are the atrocities around the world caused/supported/funded by the US (& GB) where many many more innocent people than involved in 9/11 have lost their lives.
The US & GB have been lording it around the world for decades, it is just seen in an entirely different light when these tragedies occur on 'home' soil.
Just my 2p's.
Spiderman
12-09-08, 02:38 PM
Without a doubt, 9/11 was a terrible event and should quite rightly be remembered. However, what doesnt get remembered, or widely reported, are the atrocities around the world caused/supported/funded by the US (& GB) where many many more innocent people than involved in 9/11 have lost their lives.
The US & GB have been lording it around the world for decades, it is just seen in an entirely different light when these tragedies occur on 'home' soil.
Just my 2p's.
:shock: round of applause for you sir. I was just about to post something very similar but shorter and that was this....
YAWN, can we all get over this now please lots of people die in lots of terrible ways all the time whether thru "terrorism" or by being tortured for being "enemy combatants", words used by the worlds biggest criminals themselves.
But i think your way of putting it is less likely to get a flaming :lol:
But hey if anyone has a problem with what i said bring it on.
Tbh guys I only posted these pics up to remember the 2751 souls who lost there lives in the twin towers on that day, no other reason.
But hey if anyone has a problem with what i said bring it on.
I do. But as Stewie says, the point of the thread was to remember, not to have a bust-up.
Spiderman
12-09-08, 05:29 PM
Tbh guys I only posted these pics up to remember the 2751 souls who lost there lives in the twin towers on that day, no other reason.
I see where you are comming from but i'm just miffed on behalf of the hundreds of thousands who have died since and who dont have a day for anyone to remember them by. Or even a specific event event, you cant really commemorate the day of every suicide bombing thats happened in Iraq or Afghanistan since or the day that some "privatie security contractor" thought he shoot first knowing he cant legally be held accountable.
So its a sad situation all round but only one side asks us to cry for it and remeber a specififc day for it.
And i dont like that personaly.
I do. But as Stewie says, the point of the thread was to remember, not to have a bust-up.
Ed old buddy, feel free to PM me and we can have our own little chat about this if you like. Or find the last 9/11 consipracy thread and you can clearly see where i an coming from on this subject, its just another double standard i see is all.
Any innocent person being killed to forward anyones political views is just plain wrong imho and each of those dead deserve the same respect for the life they lost and the loved ones who mourn them.
http://cenvachristiansportbike.homestead.com/files/Disappointed_anim.gif This is not true.
Maybe a few isolated incidents but prejudice is everywhere...
It's not like it's Belfast over here or anything. ;)
what is not true?
this may seem off topic.
im quite surprised by sv owners insight, in to what really goes on in the world, u$a for example. om mx forums i go on, people are plain naive.
its refreshing reading some of the comments here :)
Tiger 55
12-09-08, 10:44 PM
what is not true?
This. The actual attacks I imagine rather than the reports. Bananaman knows more.
so many of the news resports, and papers, told of how anybody with dark skin was being attacked, that was indeed sickening, and indicative of americas inherent racism.
BanannaMan
13-09-08, 02:49 AM
what is not true?
Yes...this.
it was a horrible time to be in america.
so many of the news resports, and papers, told of how anybody with dark skin was being attacked, that was indeed sickening, and indicative of americas inherent racism.
That did not happen.
Actual attacks against muslims in the US and/or anybody with dark skin....You could count these incidents on the fingers of one hand.
For a country the size of the whole of Europe with over 305 million people, that's not too bad.
There was never any wide scale violence against others in the US because of the 9/11 attacks.
Wide scale racial violence of any type pretty much ended here in the late 1960's. (again..other than a just a few isolated incidents)
BanannaMan
13-09-08, 03:06 AM
this may seem off topic.
im quite surprised by sv owners insight, in to what really goes on in the world, u$a for example. om mx forums i go on, people are plain naive.
its refreshing reading some of the comments here
While I'm sure you were not referring to any of my posts as refreshing reading...I agree!!! :D
It's nice to see the org is a bit more intellegent than the average folk.
(at least the average in the US anyway) http://cenvachristiansportbike.homestead.com/lol.gif
Er....Those naive mx'ers wouldn't all be from America would they?? :oops:
Peeps - we'll have to agree to disagree
No problem there mate!
Actually I agree with most of the republican's values...but their economic policies are crippling to the working class.
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