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So,
How many of you people riding SV's on a restricted licence are actually restricted?
I only passed my test on Saturday and already i feel i'm getting used to the power of 33bhp. My power cuts out very early after 6.5-7k you can feel it stop pulling.
I know the chances of getting caught are small but there is always a chance.
Just wondering what peoples thoughts are!
Cheers
silent11
18-09-08, 04:37 PM
i am on restricted license and ride it un restricted
i rode it for 2 months and did a track day to prove to my self and most importantly my mother lol that i could handle the power, as i did it on a cbr il4 ron haslam day
Nicky S
18-09-08, 04:41 PM
I only had my bike 3 weeks and already feel i'm getting used to the power of 33bhp. but im scared if i bring out the beast. but im sort of bord of it at 33bhp ill prob free here after xmas
Dangerous Dave
18-09-08, 04:43 PM
A word of the wise, for those of you wishing to post with your location and bike showing use a bit of common sense!
silent11
18-09-08, 04:47 PM
A word of the wise, for those of you wishing to post with your location and bike showing use a bit of common sense!
hmmm lol correct you are :rolleyes:
I'll keep it on for at least a few more weeks so i'm properly used to the bike. Been using it for work the last couple of days and been enjoying it. Still can overtake pretty safe and reach the speed limit quick enough but i don't really feel the torque if you know what i mean?
Like most on 33bhp I don't like it, but hey ho, I've kept mine in. It's just not worth taking them out.
So you think you can handle the power- you might end up in an accident that had nothing to do with your riding ability, your bike gets inspected and you haven't got it restricted. Then what do you do?
It's just not worth the risk IMO. I can still make good progress, even if I want more power, and when my 2 years are up I think I'll be a better rider for it.
33BHP makes you plan things better. You can't power out of corners, so you learn to go into them quicker and carry corner speed. You have to plan overtakes more in advance than a higher powered bike.. At the end of it all you'll be a better rider though.
Don't feel the torque? It'll still do 0-60 in well under 5 seconds, what don't you feel? It's the top end you haven't got.
joshmac
18-09-08, 05:15 PM
Don't feel the torque? It'll still do 0-60 in well under 5 seconds, what don't you feel? It's the top end you haven't got.
Yeah I was gonna' say! One of the better bikes to have restricted as it still keeps a lot of its low down torque.
So it'll only do 100mph if you're lucky in a straight line... so in theory the bike could still do that in corners (obviously don't try this :lol:)
What I'm trying to say is that I completely agree with Sean here. Learn to use the power you've got (not just in a straight line!!) and enjoy it.
33bhp will still beat the majority of cars off the line if that's what you're into
Take it to some decent roads and have fun in the corners.
Just for the record, I'm restricted as well
HTH
joshmac
18-09-08, 05:16 PM
A word of the wise, for those of you wishing to post with your location and bike showing use a bit of common sense!
More words of wisdom from DD :D:p
Your both right.
I've only had the bike a week i need more time to get used to it, i should be greatfull i have a lovely SV anyway.
I will stick it out for now - although 2 years is a long time... how long have you guys been restriced out of interest?
If I had been on a restricted licence for a couple of years, and if I hadn't perhaps spent all of that time on a 33BHP machine, I might like to talk about it objectivly and not specifically say whether I'd removed them or not.
That way I'd be discussing the pros and cons, not winding people up or incriminating myself.:study:
I've been restricted for 11 months. It's gone quicker than I thought it would, another year won't bother me now, though i'll be glad to have it out.
Another wise person (Ed) said: Is it better to have a restricted bike, or no bike?
joshmac
18-09-08, 05:30 PM
Your both right.
I've only had the bike a week i need more time to get used to it, i should be greatfull i have a lovely SV anyway.
I will stick it out for now - although 2 years is a long time... how long have you guys been restriced out of interest?
Passed my test 9th June..
But then again I drive a 1.2 8V Fiat Punto (no comments please! :smt071) so after driving that after then jumping on the bike, it feels amazing :lol:
For me, it's not slow enough to risk losing my license (love the independence :cool:) and then getting hit even harder with my insurance (I'm 17)
Another good point is that you're getting hammered for your insurance now.
What do you think it'll be like after you've been caught without your restrictors in?
Don't feel the torque? It'll still do 0-60 in well under 5 seconds, what don't you feel? It's the top end you haven't got.
Impressive, I didn't know the SV was that quick to 60 restricted. I'm looking forward to it!
I've still yet to pick mine up, funnily enough because the restrictor ecus are on back order!
It's still a quick bike to the speed limits, and still quicker than a lot of cars :)
i think i was too used to being on the back of my step dads blackbird :D!
Jambo: lol, i think ( think ) i know what your talking about ;)
I reckon things feel quicker when you're pillion than when you're on the front seat, which probably skews things for you too.
I am sure there will be someone along to curse you to hell and call you all the names under the sun for not riding restricted.
Its your life do it if you want. But dont come crying if and its a BIG IF you get caught!
The chances of getting caught are miniscule, the only way to check is to Dyno it and the police are not going to bother with that. If you get busted doing 120 then they may check as no restricted can do that.
Saint Matt
18-09-08, 05:41 PM
I had mine in for a couple of months after my test, just til I got used to the weight, I was fine.
They will only open your bike up to see if it's restricted if you have a very bad accident etc etc, in other words in the event they find it's unrestricted it's very unlikely to affect you in any way.
Wideboy
18-09-08, 05:45 PM
its not size that matters it how you use it, I've managed to show up a few full power riders
agree with sean completely, no one likes them, god knows how many times i've stared at them and been tempted to pull them out
i know of 2 people that have taken theirs out, one of which did it the day after there test and they have both binned it with one being a write off
its not worth it there's to much to loose, i've only got 8 months left and im counting down the days
Wideboy
18-09-08, 05:47 PM
in other words in the event they find it's unrestricted it's very unlikely to affect you in any way.
technically your riding without a license so i think it will effect you :lol:
technically your riding without a license so i think it will effect you :lol:
Plus no insurance too ;)
Plus no insurance too ;)
A common miss conception, only half right.
for you yes if you want to claim for fully comp etc. however if TPFT and it gets stolen HTF are they going to know , same if its burnt.
Chances are the assesor wont even check.
As for the third party, your insurance company still has to pay out for them.
Dangerous Dave
18-09-08, 05:52 PM
Correct, without insurance and without a licence. Thats a big risk to make!
What Neio stated above is correct, although your insurance wouldn't pay for third party damage as the insurance slush fund would pay for that. You are still liable for prosecution though!
Ok Neio, it's still invalidated though. And if it's invalidated, you're essentially riding without insurance, aren't you?
I'm thinking more about crashes, and crashes where you're at fault where the restrictors come in to play. The type of thing where they'll try and wriggle out of paying because you don't have the standard tyres on.
As you say, it wouldn't matter if it's stolen, the restrictors are irrelevant then.
Well the insurance one is a strange one!
I'm sure there are lots of people on here who have modified their bike or car and not told the insurance. Really that also makes your insurance invalid but so many people do it?
The licence one is more serious. What kinda changes can you face if you are caught?
ricky_t
18-09-08, 05:55 PM
Keep your restrictors in.
You will be heavily penalized if you have an accident. i.e. no insurance, no license and riding a bike that you are not legally aloud to ride. Don't do it.[-X
I rode for 2 years with restrictors in. I even did a trackday with the restrictors in.
Guess what? I overtake a few bikes cbr600s and a few others that have over/near 100bhp and I only had 33bhp.
Upgrade your handling. There is a large difference between the power of 33bhp and 70bhp. with 33bhp you can open the throttle fully and you will still be in easy control.
At full power in 1st gear especially the front wheel lifts and throughout the gears you are pushed back in your seat encouraging you to open the throttle fully. However, if have been riding for over a year and ride most of the week, I understand your frustration. However, some people ride a few times a year and the laws for everyone.
Wideboy
18-09-08, 05:57 PM
The licence one is more serious. What kinda changes can you face if you are caught?
not 100% but going from those police camera action programs all the little scrotes joy riding with no licenses get banned (i don't get it either)
Dangerous Dave
18-09-08, 05:58 PM
The type of thing where they'll try and wriggle out of paying because you don't have the standard tyres on.
After this....
http://forums.sv650.org/image.php?u=7466&dateline=1220294282&type=profile
...the police striped my bike. The guy pulled across in front of me, ten metres between us and the were still searching through the remains of my bike fro all sorts of things.
Fortunately they found nothing wrong, which there wasn't, but after fighting for your life do you want someone to come up to you and say you are being prosecuted for driving without a licence and insurance???
I had an accident and claimed off the 3rd party...
I didn't have my exhaust baffle in...
The garage told me that the assessor who approved the work stated, if it were my insurance it would be invalid because the bike was not road legal.
I think if they see you have a restricted licence, it'll be the first thing they check.
You could get charged for riding without insurance, your future premiums will be affected, and if you write off your bike you will still have to pay any finance owed.
Not worth it IMO, but i can see the temptation.
The licence one is more serious. What kinda changes can you face if you are caught?
Riding other than in accordance with your licence, and Invalid Insurance.
If you are caught and TBH the only way that is going to hapen is if you crash and it checked over.
Even a tug by the filth wont show up you are de restricted. As according to that wonderfully sh*te ANPR you are all insured and taxed etc.
They have to request Licence details from the DVLA over the radio, and even when it comes back A2 chances are the dozy copper wont know the differance or ask for proof the bike is insured.
I passed my test 2nd April and got my bike the 12th. Can't wait to get the retarders out but I know I have so much more to learn.
Learn corners and taking the right lines and you will be able to upset some Sunday riders.
I'm quite content with been retarded (take that how you wish...). Only thing that annoys me is the short first gear. Just go out and enjoy the bike without having to worry about not having your restrictors in :)
Dangerous Dave
18-09-08, 06:03 PM
The licence one is more serious. What kinda changes can you face if you are caught?
A lad on an unrestricted R6 was caught doing 123mph, the police stripped the bike and found no restrictor.
He was charged for speeding (received 6 points), dangerous driving (banned for 1 year), no insurance (6 points), and no licence (2 years).
I think if they see you are, say 18-20, then there is a higher chance they will check as you wouldn't be able to ride most bikes without a restrictor.
When i took my insurance out ( Saturday ) they didn't have an option for an A2 licence. They had provisional, A1 and full so i put full - thinking that because i'm 20 then they will know i'm on a restricted licence - but they haven't asked for any proof that my bike is restricted.
A lad on an unrestricted R6 was caught doing 123mph, the police stripped the bike and found no restrictor.
He was charged for speeding (received 6 points), dangerous driving (banned for 1 year), no insurance (6 points), and no licence (2 years).
I think if they see you are, say 18-20, then there is a higher chance they will check as you wouldn't be able to ride most bikes without a restrictor.
He was asking to be caught doing 123mph tbh
Wideboy
18-09-08, 06:06 PM
When i took my insurance out ( Saturday ) they didn't have an option for an A2 licence. They had provisional, A1 and full so i put full - thinking that because i'm 20 then they will know i'm on a restricted licence - but they haven't asked for any proof that my bike is restricted.
neither did mine but i am pretty much 99.9% sure that if i had a prang they wouldn't pay up
Dangerous Dave
18-09-08, 06:08 PM
He was asking to be caught doing 123mph tbh
Yes but if it was a fixed camera he would have walked away with points only most likey, the fact the bike was not restricted and the officer thought 'this ain't right' was the main cause for prosecution.
scottjames
18-09-08, 06:23 PM
Ive got mine restircted, being only 17 they are rele interested to know im legal they will do any thing not to insure me. i think there is plenty power to ride comfortably. i can keep up on a fair pace ride with my dad and friends on their 600's. i think its good and every one should keep it in, yeah i cant wait but im sensible enough not to risk it.
take your time even restircted your faster than most things your likly to see on the road. use your time to work on the bike. get all the suspention set up properly, use this time to check out diff types of tyres and try out a few different sprockets. actually look at your riding now and if there are any corners you've gone into and thought if i was a lil quicker it could have been a mess. then your not ready for more power. once your hitting every corner spot on then go for more power. main thing is safty and i can see why the restriction is put in place i just think more under 21 should appriciate it more. every one i knwo doesnt but then they'll be the ones gettting caught out.
scott
I agree but he was i know for sure that if i got cought doing that speed they would want to ask questions.
4 pages some good chat going on here :)
Saint Matt
18-09-08, 06:44 PM
The risk is so tiny, it's well worth it imo, so I did it. Not judging those who don't take them out at all, just that I took them out, I was fine, I've taken a few more people's restrictors out for them and they have all been fine too :)
chakraist
18-09-08, 06:50 PM
VOSA vans can pull your bike and dyno it. If you are issued a producer then I'd suggest slipping the restrictors in within the week (as I believe you have to produce proof of restriction too). Otherwise it's more the insurance issue.
The risk may change according to how you ride. If you're riding like a loon, I'd say the risk is large, and even if you're not, I'd say its considerable. I'm not judging anybody if they do it, that's their choice, I'll keep my opinion about that to myself, just voicing my reasons against doing it.
I'm a great believer in sod's law.. I wouldn't get pulled for anything that may or may not be strictly legal on me or my bike, but if I took my restrictors out, I bet you I'd get pulled over and found out..
Alpinestarhero
18-09-08, 06:58 PM
I was restricted for two years (from 12th july 2006 to 12th july 2008). I coped well with a restricted bike, finding it lacking only when I wanted to overtake safely. Two-up and with a loaded topbox, the bike coped very well on this years Annual Rideout, with the only problem being when I came across a couple of vehicles which I couldnt safely overtake. Keep the engine spinning between 5000 rpm and 7500 rpm, and the bike works well. I would say to you don't take out the restrictors, as it'll invalidate your insurance and breach the terms of your lisence.
But, as ever, its your bike, your lisence. You may never get stopped or caught during your two years (I didn't), but, on the other hand, you might take the restrictors out tomorrow morning, and become found out that your bike is unrestricted tomorrow afternoon after being caught doing 130 mph (a restricted bike isnt going to go much faster than 110 mph really).
I'd say 110 is ambitious Matt ;)
I was doing 85 flat out on my unfaired SV, though I was sitting up. 85 real mph, or as close as damn it. Managed 90 down a bit of a hill, still sitting up.
Alpinestarhero
18-09-08, 07:03 PM
Pah, try harder! I had 105 once, with a loaded topbox. It was early in the morning though (dense air) and I think I had a bit of a tail wind. The journey on the same day in tha afternoon saw me hit no more than 82 mph going uphill. I was flat out, and my mate came past on his ZX6 sitting bolt upright and really making a point that I was going slower than him.
I was tucked right down behind the fairing :smt082
Saint Matt
18-09-08, 07:04 PM
Mine did 112 flat out on a hill lol
scottjames
18-09-08, 07:06 PM
on a good day i can reach 110 which was backed by a few frinds with a range of bikes. any wind tho and its 90 and no more. tht id plenty fast for your first couple years. do you not think? :p
Wideboy
18-09-08, 07:06 PM
i've had 110 on the flat no tucking up and im a big b****** :lol:
i can easily get it to a ton
I sat above the fairing anyway, so I didn't exactly help aerodynamics, but now I don't have anything to tuck under :p
Had 115 once, though clearly not real mph.
Dangerous Dave
18-09-08, 07:19 PM
Oh, god... don't start all this crap again! The SV's speedo is famous for lying, on one of the speed runs below the speedo indicated 149mph!
Full Power
Curvy - 125.1mph (standard)
Pointy - 124.3mph (standard)
These were the maximum readings taken, in official terms we would take the average of many runs!
Before anybody mentions it your SatNav is inaccurate also, trust me I know about this as I work with top of the range GPS equipment.
My speedo runs off a magnet on the rear disc, and I measured the rear tyre, so I'm guessing mine is a good bit more accurate than standard, which I know over reads by a stupid amount..
joshmac
18-09-08, 07:22 PM
Before anybody mentions it your SatNav is inaccurate also, trust me I know about this as I work with top of the range GPS equipment.
Just out of curiosity, how far out would it be? Surely not quite as much as a standard SV's speedo?
454697819
18-09-08, 07:28 PM
eh hem...
unrestricted on a restricted license means you are riding not in compliance with your licence and as as such your insurance is null and void.
There is wording on your certificate or in your policy along the lines of "providing such persons holds a valid licence" - if you de restrict it you dont.
the police wont be intersted in "the risk was so slim" because you are baltently breaking the law.
I had a restricted licence and did my two years btw
Be responsible and keep it restricted.
Dangerous Dave
18-09-08, 07:29 PM
Just out of curiosity, how far out would it be? Surely not quite as much as a standard SV's speedo?
Not 100% sure, spoken to a few whizz kids in supply centres about these sort of things and they say our kit is accurate to within 2-3mph and 3-7 inches.
Spikenipple
18-09-08, 07:44 PM
I didn't take my restrictor out after the 600 mile service, and it definitely didn't feel a lot better without it. I don't prefer the extra power on my daily commute, especially when overtaking. As for going for a balls-out hoon, i can only imagine how much easier it is to get up to speed, there could be a big rush of power at 7k rpm for all I know.
I definitely haven't seen 134mph on the clocks.
joshmac
18-09-08, 07:52 PM
I didn't take my restrictor out after the 600 mile service, and it definitely didn't feel a lot better without it. I don't prefer the extra power on my daily commute, especially when overtaking. As for going for a balls-out hoon, i can only imagine how much easier it is to get up to speed, there could be a big rush of power at 7k rpm for all I know.
I definitely haven't seen 134mph on the clocks.
:lol:
And that's how you say it on a public forum folks ;):p
Saint Matt
18-09-08, 07:58 PM
I didn't take my restrictor out after the 600 mile service, and it definitely didn't feel a lot better without it. I don't prefer the extra power on my daily commute, especially when overtaking. As for going for a balls-out hoon, i can only imagine how much easier it is to get up to speed, there could be a big rush of power at 7k rpm for all I know.
I definitely haven't seen 134mph on the clocks.
Well played :lol:
joshmac
18-09-08, 07:59 PM
(Stuff)...
the police wont be interested in "the risk was so slim" because you are blatantly breaking the law.
I don't think people are suggesting to say that to the police, but the fact that you could have your bike dinoed (sp?) is slim..
I could've interpreted it wrong though
At the end of the day, everyone knows what they should and shouldn't do. As has been said already, it's your license, your bike, so it's completely up to you, but like Neio said, if you get caught don't complain
Just my two cents :cool:
454697819
18-09-08, 08:19 PM
I don't think people are suggesting to say that to the police, but the fact that you could have your bike dinoed (sp?) is slim..
I could've interpreted it wrong though
At the end of the day, everyone knows what they should and shouldn't do. As has been said already, it's your license, your bike, so it's completely up to you, but like Neio said, if you get caught don't complain
Just my two cents :cool:
they can inspect the bike for the prescence of restriction.. they have and they will continue to
ur right the risk is very slim..I nearly did it...
I've been passed for just over a month now and wouldn't even dream at the moment of taking my restrictor out. I don't think i will take it out before the 2 years is up. I could have done my licence on a 500 but didn't want to. I don't struggle speed wise to keep up with drew on the normal roads (just a confident thing currently) when we get to a straight yes he can pull away put really i don't care about that.
If you want to take your restrictor out take it out however on the IF chance i wouldn't want to take the risk
For the sake of £60+ the cost of couple of hours hiring a trainer- why not just take an unrestricted test? and then you can ebay your restrictor kit and get some money back.
For the sake of £60+ the cost of couple of hours hiring a trainer- why not just take an unrestricted test? and then you can ebay your restrictor kit and get some money back.
Some people just don't want to- felt more comfortable doing lessons/test on 125 or for whatever reason.
Here, we're mostly talking about people who are under 21 ;)
For the sake of £60+ the cost of couple of hours hiring a trainer- why not just take an unrestricted test? and then you can ebay your restrictor kit and get some money back.
The place where I did my lessons charged the same for 500 lessons or 125 lessons. Age was the factor with me! :(
Mr Speirs
18-09-08, 09:10 PM
If you have an accident on a restricted licence riding an unrestricted bike you invalidate your insurance. You will be riding a bike without insurance and that, no matter which way you look at it, is ****ish thing to do.
Haven't read the rest of the posts so may have been covered before.
Dangerous Dave
19-09-08, 06:56 AM
If you have an accident on a restricted licence riding an unrestricted bike you invalidate your insurance. You will be riding a bike without insurance and that, no matter which way you look at it, is ****ish thing to do.
Haven't read the rest of the posts so may have been covered before.
Yes it's been covered, you forgot to mention riding without a licence too.
yorkie_chris
19-09-08, 08:32 AM
Always seems to me that easiest and cheapest way is to get a busa/ZX12R ... f### it ... it's no more illegal than being 40bhp over limit :-P
Even more of a daft $hit idea than that, is doing something illegal, then posting about it on a public internet forum.
MCN_LiamM
19-09-08, 10:04 AM
I just purchased a restricted SV the other week after passing in April.
I think I will keep the restrictors in.
At the end of the day 33bhp is good for 100mph and that's licence losing speed anyway.
Stay off the motorways and stick to the twisties and it will feel like it has much more than 33bhp with the amount of low down grunt.
I also discovered this week that you CAN do track days on your restricted licence apart from at circuits owned by MSV (Cadwell, Brands, Snetterton and Oulton)
SoulKiss
19-09-08, 10:15 AM
When i took my insurance out ( Saturday ) they didn't have an option for an A2 licence. They had provisional, A1 and full so i put full - thinking that because i'm 20 then they will know i'm on a restricted licence - but they haven't asked for any proof that my bike is restricted.
Theres your legal way out of it
Ride restricted till 21 then do a Full Unrestricted Test and when you pass you can legally bin the restrictors.
Yes the restrictor thing is an artificial, arbitrary load of rubbish, but then is a no-entry or one-way street sign.
If you are not going to respect the rules of the road (however wrong they may be in some cases) then you shouldn't be on it - thats the reason I am so anti-cyclist.
So says the guy with a couple of SP30's on his license :P
Dangerous Dave
19-09-08, 11:54 AM
Even more of a daft $hit idea than that, is doing something illegal, then posting about it on a public internet forum.
+ 1, hence my warning on the first page.
Some very interesting comments.
Of course i won't take them out at all or that would be illegal... ;)
The insurance thing is bugging me everyone saying that it will invalidate your insurance
Of course it does but how many of you have put alloy wheels on your car, or a new exhaust on your bike and not told your insurance? I know that's not the point though.
It takes 5min to swap the ECU over if i was is an accident that didn't seriously hurt me...
Thanks for all your input so far!
sam anon
19-09-08, 02:02 PM
Like most on 33bhp I don't like it, but hey ho, I've kept mine in. It's just not worth taking them out.
So you think you can handle the power- you might end up in an accident that had nothing to do with your riding ability, your bike gets inspected and you haven't got it restricted. Then what do you do?
It's just not worth the risk IMO. I can still make good progress, even if I want more power, and when my 2 years are up I think I'll be a better rider for it.
33BHP makes you plan things better. You can't power out of corners, so you learn to go into them quicker and carry corner speed. You have to plan overtakes more in advance than a higher powered bike.. At the end of it all you'll be a better rider though.
+1, but then I'm not on a restricted licence!
Like most on 33bhp I don't like it, but hey ho, I've kept mine in. It's just not worth taking them out.
So you think you can handle the power- you might end up in an accident that had nothing to do with your riding ability, your bike gets inspected and you haven't got it restricted. Then what do you do?
It's just not worth the risk IMO. I can still make good progress, even if I want more power, and when my 2 years are up I think I'll be a better rider for it.
33BHP makes you plan things better. You can't power out of corners, so you learn to go into them quicker and carry corner speed. You have to plan overtakes more in advance than a higher powered bike.. At the end of it all you'll be a better rider though.
+ 2
I passed my DAS In August. My SV isn't restricted but I'm not sure that i would be TOO bothered if it was.
I have got soo much to learn and I'm sure it will be a long time before I ride to anything near the full potential of the SV.
I don't feel as I was taught anything differently an the DAS to what I would've been taught for a restricted test.
Sure I can go faster in a straight line on my unrestricted Sv, But I can bet You'll all catch me up ( read Overtake!!) me on the twisties.
I hope I'm going about it in the right way and probably being overly cautious when I'm riding. I just want to get used to the Sv at my own pace and hopefully I will become a better rider for it rather that going hell for leather from day one and then binning it.
Not having a go at anyone who feels they need more power, just my own humble opinion.;)
SoulKiss
19-09-08, 02:40 PM
Some very interesting comments.
Of course i won't take them out at all or that would be illegal... ;)
The insurance thing is bugging me everyone saying that it will invalidate your insurance
Of course it does but how many of you have put alloy wheels on your car, or a new exhaust on your bike and not told your insurance? I know that's not the point though.
It takes 5min to swap the ECU over if i was is an accident that didn't seriously hurt me...
Thanks for all your input so far!
The thing is, as I see it, if you are not going to obey THAT rule, what other rules are you going to obey.
Why just not bother with insurance - just stick a false plate on your bike for the ANPR
I guess what I am trying to say (from one Ayrshire guy to another, born in Irvine Central, have a bunch of family in the Mauchline/Cumnock area)
Dont be a knobfaced-knobber
joshmac
19-09-08, 04:19 PM
For the sake of £60+ the cost of couple of hours hiring a trainer- why not just take an unrestricted test? and then you can ebay your restrictor kit and get some money back.
I'm 17 ;)
Dangerous Dave
19-09-08, 05:25 PM
+1, but then I'm not on a restricted licence!
Me too, never been on a restricted licence and have been riding for 15 years.
It takes 5min to swap the ECU over if i was is an accident that didn't seriously hurt me...
Its the ones that do seriously hurt someone that the police do a thorough check.
I personally do not see the point in de-restricting your bike when you are still on a 33bhp licence, you learn to ride the bike when you have less power rather than just blasting out of corners you can't ride around.
Two years restricted or two years in jail, thats what the R6 rider never thought about and you never know what is around the corner...
I'm going to keep it in for now as i've just been out on it and really enjoyed it.
I'll try hold out for the 2 years but i can't be certain as 2 years is a long time...
Thanks for all your input!
2 years looks like a long time when you're at the beginning of it- I'm almost half way through now, and I don't know where its gone :( Still have so much to learn..
By the way, is that a wooly jumper you have on in your avatar :P?
It's a nice pic ( no homo )
A fleece mate. My leathers are too good a fit to get it on underneath, and I was bloody cold :p
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20-09-08, 03:19 PM
Imho, the 33bhp version sv650 is more fun to ride than the full power version. You can spank it's ****, rag the crap out of it and it won't bite whereas the full power is the same but a little faster. You can learn a lot being from 33bhp.
That being said, I know the feeling and was *perhaps* unrestricted on much larger bhp machines as being on 33bhp was a right pain in the bum.
its not size that matters it how you use it, I've managed to show up a few full power riders
agree with sean completely, no one likes them, god knows how many times i've stared at them and been tempted to pull them out
i know of 2 people that have taken theirs out, one of which did it the day after there test and they have both binned it with one being a write off
its not worth it there's to much to loose, i've only got 8 months left and im counting down the days
And what about me? :D
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