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Geoffrey
21-09-08, 11:23 AM
Hi,
I have been on here for just a short time now but have started to notice that a few of us on here are/were in the Armed Forces. I am just curious to see who is, what rank, what service, and what regiment/squadron/corps we have on here?
I was in the RAF, had been for 20 years. I was a loadmaster on retirement at RAF Lyneham (C130 Hercules) as a Flight Sargeant in 47sqn. I have also in my career worked at RAF Benson with the Pumas of 33sqn and at RAF Odiham with the Chinooks of 18sqn and 27sqn.
ThEGr33k
21-09-08, 11:41 AM
http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=57570&highlight=armed+forces
Here you go. :)
Currently at RAF Fylingdales, SAC TG4. Hate it getting out, waste of time.
Cheers,
Nick
gettin2dizzy
21-09-08, 11:41 AM
Walmnington on Sea Home Guard :thumbsup:
RAF Supplier
Feb 81 to Feb 95
81-84 Leeming
84-87 431MU Bruggen
87-90 Cranwell (With two tours to Falkland Islands)
90-92 TSW Stafford (Numerous detatchments all over Northern Ireland)
92-95 West Drayton/Uxbridge
Got to Cpl in 90 but got Court Martialled in 95 and left as an SAC (:()
RAF 76-86
Joined up as a rigger, failed the course,became an MT driver
77 - 80 kinloss
80 - 84 wilderath
84 - 85 cranwell
85 - 86 molesworth, bought meself after 10 years, where after a brilliant military carreer I rose to the rank of SAC :D
Dangerous Dave
21-09-08, 02:26 PM
Joined the Royal Marines as a runt, made it through to a Corporal with three combat tours. Side lined into the Special Boat Service, active service for over ten years and rose to the rank of Colour Sergeant and became a Sqn NCO.
Today I am in the same place, still a CSgt but due to injuries I am no longer active and specialise in weapons, CQB, and CT instructing.
Army - Royal Signals
RTG - Cream of the Corps (First female in the British Army to pass)
No wise cracks Neio if you read this ;).
Globe Trotting with 30 Sig Regt (similar to RAF TCW), travelled the world on Operations and Exercises. Loved it!!
Out now and contracting for BT on Defence Telecommunications Projects (DFTS, I won't mention DII(F) LMAO)
My uncle was in 1 Para..............does that count?:D
Dangerous Dave
21-09-08, 03:25 PM
My uncle was in 1 Para..............does that count?:D
Yeah, go on...
Yeah, go on...
1955-1969
Scary man my uncle.:shock:
Side lined into the Special Boat Service......
specialise in weapons, CQB, and CT instructing.
*Makes mental note not too take the pi$$ out of dave :shock:*
*Makes mental note not too take the pi$$ out of dave :shock:*
+1.
Unless he buys a pointy................some things are worth a beating:p
chakraist
21-09-08, 05:19 PM
I'm thinking of joining int. corps when I leave uni, what do you guys think?
tanis34
21-09-08, 05:20 PM
4 years as a driver in the royal corp of transport attached to 222 field ambulance 1988-1992
Dangerous Dave
21-09-08, 06:16 PM
*Makes mental note not too take the pi$$ out of dave :shock:*
Its ok, I can only shoot up to 1350 metres if the weather is nice.
Unless he buys a pointy................some things are worth a beating:p
Feel free, if I ever buy one it would be the right thing to do!
Mr Speirs
21-09-08, 06:36 PM
My dad has been in the RAF for almost 30years.
Since I was born we have lived in the following places:
1984 RAF Leuchers
1984-1988 Raf Wildenwrath
1988-1990 RAF Sculthorpe (West Raynham)
1990-1992 RAF Wyton
1992-1996 RAF Laarbruch
1996-present RAF Wyton
Years might be a little out as I cant remember for sure. My dad started out working on Phantoms then moved out to Laarbruch to work on Harriers in 4sq. Dont really know much of what he does now or even before but I loved being an Armed Forces Kid.
damn! ive always hated the idea of being in the forces! i couldnt deal with being told what to do, and im really not at all patriotic.
having said that, im currently working at tidworth ha ha ha
Dangerous Dave
21-09-08, 06:47 PM
i couldnt deal with being told what to do, and im really not at all patriotic.
Some places let the loonies run the show....
You don't need to patriotic, you fight for your friends beside you.
ethariel
21-09-08, 06:53 PM
9 months in the RAF at the tender age of 18, medical discharge finished my plans for the next 21 years and 3 months.....LOL.
Colin
tinpants
21-09-08, 06:57 PM
I'm thinking of joining int. corps when I leave uni, what do you guys think?
Hmmm. Military Intelligence - a contradiction in terms. Should suit a student down to the ground.
Kate Moss
21-09-08, 07:28 PM
My old man was in the Navy for 34 years I think. Marine Engineering Officer, Ltd Cdr Moss MBE!!
Lots of ships, lots of places - he now works for BlueWater in Antibes, near Redbouy!!
I wanted to join the army when i was younger but dad wouldn't let me join any of the services.
Biker Biggles
21-09-08, 07:50 PM
Unarmed service for me.I spent a few years in the Merchant Navy when we still had one and went to more places than I can remember.
Sideshow#36
21-09-08, 07:59 PM
When were you on 27Sqn Geoffrey? I was on there about 4 years ago. Still at Odiham but now no-longer on the Sqn. :rolleyes:
Yeah spent long enough to retire bobbing about the oceans, never actually shot at anyone in anger ;)
....regiment/squadron/corps we have on here?
Never been in one of them, all I'll say is HMS Lots
appollo1
21-09-08, 08:33 PM
Hi,
I have been on here for just a short time now but have started to notice that a few of us on here are/were in the Armed Forces. I am just curious to see who is, what rank, what service, and what regiment/squadron/corps we have on here?
SSSShhhhhhhh!!!! it's a secret and if I tell you I'll have to kill you!!
ThEGr33k
21-09-08, 11:35 PM
I'm thinking of joining int. corps when I leave uni, what do you guys think?
Well id say stay away... but im a little bias :p
rictus01
21-09-08, 11:44 PM
Arh this old chestnut again.......;)
REME spanner monkey 4 years with 3 ADTR, last two years attached 7 RHA following big bits of metal some burk threw out the back of a plane :D
Cheers Mark.
Geoffrey
22-09-08, 07:17 AM
Interesting to know there are so many of us on here.
I believe me and Dangerous Dave may have met before, with 47sqn (C130) I did a lot of SF insertions and when I was in 18sqn I did a lot of pick-ups (RIB into Chinook). What do you think DD?
wren writer 1989 - 1992
HMS Raleigh, Collingwood, Cochrane, Centurian, Fearless (briefly).
chakraist
22-09-08, 11:40 AM
Well id say stay away... but im a little bias :p
lol! I heard the term green slime mentioned
Out now and contracting for BT on Defence Telecommunications Projects (DFTS, I won't mention DII(F) LMAO)
Your 'avin a laugh.
Also Royal Signals. A proper combat trade Radio Operator. 12 years. Also working for BT on the same project. Where you at :?: I'm in the projects office in Reading.
Dangerous Dave
22-09-08, 12:09 PM
I believe me and Dangerous Dave may have met before, with 47sqn (C130) I did a lot of SF insertions and when I was in 18sqn I did a lot of pick-ups (RIB into Chinook). What do you think DD?
Most likely, I have done a few of both.
:-dd
RAF then... ;)
DanAbnormal
22-09-08, 12:14 PM
I was in 'nam.
redshift
22-09-08, 12:34 PM
I was in 'nam.
Tott'nam?
Your 'avin a laugh.
Also Royal Signals. A proper combat trade Radio Operator. 12 years. Also working for BT on the same project. Where you at :?: I'm in the projects office in Reading.
I am in North Star House C2, Swindon working as a Test and Acceptance Manager for DFTS. I know quite a few people who work out of the Reading office.
I am in North Star House C2, Swindon working as a Test and Acceptance Manager for DFTS. I know quite a few people who work out of the Reading office.
Are you a Trend employee :?: Next time I am going to Swindon, I'll shout you first. You'll have to let me know where to look on the directory. :smile:
Are you a Trend employee :?: Next time I am going to Swindon, I'll shout you first. You'll have to let me know where to look on the directory. :smile:
Ha ha no not Trend anymore. My agency is Elan, however I do know quite a few Trend Employees from DFTS and INCA days LOL. I started out with DFTS from the beginning.
Will pm you. :D
redshift
22-09-08, 01:21 PM
To: Any of you lot playing with the Chinooks in Odiham
Could you get the guys to fly a bit quieter when they go over Alton please? Makes my windows rattle.
Thanks. :)
Flamin_Squirrel
22-09-08, 01:36 PM
To: Any of you lot playing with the Chinooks in Odiham
Could you get the guys to fly a bit quieter when they go over Alton please? Makes my windows rattle.
Thanks. :)
Well, they could 'turn the engines down', but that might have the rather serious side effect of them landing on your house :)
Geoffrey
22-09-08, 06:13 PM
Most likely, I have done a few of both.
I guess you cannot divulge in much?
This is still the most unbelievable memory I have from the RAF with Chinooks....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9pA4I606No
Was it scary doing the things you did?
Currently at RAF Fylingdales,
I drove past there over the moors today, on my way to Whitby and agai on the way home. That road from Malton to Whitby is something else.
Dangerous Dave
23-09-08, 06:39 PM
I guess you cannot divulge in much?
More than what people think, the OSA is full of loop holes.
This is still the most unbelievable memory I have from the RAF with Chinooks....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9pA4I606No
Good fun that, I will admit it is a bit nerve racking to begin with but then the adrenaline takes over. Would you happen to of crewed on one of the two that got lost, sat in a freezing ocean waiting for them.
Was it scary doing the things you did?
The scariest thing would be combat, it is not something you can train for fully. You never know what is happening or what is going to happen, it is also nothing near what it is like in the movies. Bullets flying over your head, mortars going off all around you and sometimes the best thing to do is not move.
The most scariest thing I have ever seen, a RAF Harrier commencing a strafing run after already dropping a bomb on our position despite us breaking radio silence to identify ourselves. Yes we were in a place designated hostile territory and where no friendlies were, but we passed the call sign and still he came back!
ThEGr33k
23-09-08, 08:19 PM
Ive got my Fatness test coming up :( Not looking forward to it as I have flat feet so when I run I get shin splints. I got to run to level 10 on the bleep test... speaking of which the damn speeds have gone up, im sure when I first joined the first couple of levels were slow walk, they are now a jog! :confused:
Urg.
Ive got my Fatness test coming up :( Not looking forward to it as I have flat feet so when I run I get shin splints. I got to run to level 10 on the bleep test... speaking of which the damn speeds have gone up, im sure when I first joined the first couple of levels were slow walk, they are now a jog! :confused:
Urg.
Can you not get some insoles to raise your arch in your trainers? If you go to the med centre they should be able to refer you and this way you can get some made especially for you. A couple of my friends did this and it made things easier for them. In the meantime see if you can get some insoles that will raise your arch. I am not sure where you can get them from though, sorry. I am sure others might be able to assist you though :D
First few levels a jog now!! Good luck :D
ThEGr33k
23-09-08, 09:12 PM
Can you not get some insoles to raise your arch in your trainers? If you go to the med centre they should be able to refer you and this way you can get some made especially for you. A couple of my friends did this and it made things easier for them. In the meantime see if you can get some insoles that will raise your arch. I am not sure where you can get them from though, sorry. I am sure others might be able to assist you though :D
First few levels a jog now!! Good luck :D
I have some... I still have some pain though. I can go for ages on the bike and the rower just not the runner due to the pain. I guess im just not made for running ha ha.
Aye its hard work now... It did used to be a walk the first two levels right!? it isnt me having a bad memory right? We have to do it twice a year or every 6 months YAY. So still got to do it twice more before im out :(
I have some... I still have some pain though. I can go for ages on the bike and the rower just not the runner due to the pain. I guess im just not made for running ha ha.
Aye its hard work now... It did used to be a walk the first two levels right!? it isnt me having a bad memory right? We have to do it twice a year or every 6 months YAY. So still got to do it twice more before im out :(
No you do not have a bad memory :). Yeah it used to be pretty lame for the first four levels at least, sounds like you are starting at level four now though :shock:. Do painkillers help? Even if just to get you through it? Just think that you only have to get to level 10 and job done :D.
ThEGr33k
23-09-08, 09:23 PM
No you do not have a bad memory :). Yeah it used to be pretty lame for the first four levels at least, sounds like you are starting at level four now though :shock:. Do painkillers help? Even if just to get you through it? Just think that you only have to get to level 10 and job done :D.
Ill try! See what broofen can do. :cool:
You mentioned you work for BT now? Im in a similar trade to what you were Foxy... How did you go about getting a job with them?
Ill try! See what broofen can do. :cool:
You mentioned you work for BT now? Im in a similar trade to what you were Foxy... How did you go about getting a job with them?
Ah yes broofen always a winner, esp when in. ;)
I will pm you about jobs but I will say that when I got out the main thing that got me my first job was my security clearance and nothing to do with my trade ...Foxy
Dangerous Dave
24-09-08, 07:00 AM
Yeah, you start at level four now I believe for the 'bleep test'.
Can you not get some insoles to raise your arch in your trainers?
Yeap, many people do this and it seems to work for them. As already mentioned the Med Centre will help you out with that.
I guess im just not made for running ha ha.
Isn't the RAF at a walking pace behind everybody else anyway??? ;) :p
I'm 27 and in the RAF. I have to run to level 9.10 in the bleep test. We start from level 0 as we always have done. The levels have gone up recently. This time last year I only needed level 8.10. Not that 9.10 is massively difficult though. The last one I ran I kept running just to beat a baby officer who was trying to prove that he was fitter than his troops. Poor lad was knackered by level 12:D
ThEGr33k
24-09-08, 08:57 AM
Yeah, you start at level four now I believe for the 'bleep test'.
Yeap, many people do this and it seems to work for them. As already mentioned the Med Centre will help you out with that.
Isn't the RAF at a walking pace behind everybody else anyway??? ;) :p
I think the new start is = to what used to be level 4, its about that pace but we still go to 9.10 as head said... thing is one shuttle more is level 10... so its pretty much level 10... why I said that.
I'm 27 and in the RAF. I have to run to level 9.10 in the bleep test. We start from level 0 as we always have done. The levels have gone up recently. This time last year I only needed level 8.10. Not that 9.10 is massively difficult though. The last one I ran I kept running just to beat a baby officer who was trying to prove that he was fitter than his troops. Poor lad was knackered by level 12:D
Im happy that you are a good runner. :)
With me being stocky (not fat, muscular) and small 5' 6" and get pain from shin splints im pretty crap at running, probably because I don't do much running due to the pain. I can push press ups out till the cows come home though. I did 70 in 50 seconds last time... :rolleyes:
Why the RAF associates fitness with running a shed load of shuttles I don't know. I cant say as I've had to do any running to do with my job other than for the blasted fitness test. tsh.
I think the new start is = to what used to be level 4, its about that pace but we still go to 9.10 as head said... thing is one shuttle more is level 10... so its pretty much level 10... why I said that.
Im happy that you are a good runner. :)
With me being stocky (not fat, muscular) and small 5' 6" and get pain from shin splints im pretty crap at running, probably because I don't do much running due to the pain. I can push press ups out till the cows come home though. I did 70 in 50 seconds last time... :rolleyes:
Why the RAF associates fitness with running a shed load of shuttles I don't know. I cant say as I've had to do any running to do with my job other than for the blasted fitness test. tsh.
Did you have Flat feet when you joined up? If so WTF did they let you in for??
Now i am not saying you dont suffer from Shin splints but in my experiance people dont understand them and use them as an excuse for bing cr*p at running and used by malingerers to get out of PT, not saying you are doing that though. As they are usualy caused by over exersising rather than just appearing from the start.
Also its a muscular problem that in most cases gently increasing the ammount of exersise in stages and stretching will ensure you dont suffer from them. As will avoiding to much tarmac and hard surface running. I have genuinly had them once in my Army career, they lasted about 2 weeks and i just rested and stretched and got back into running gently. They have never come back. A lot of people get a slight pain in their legs during exersise and cry off claiming shin splints.
TBH you sound like you have the wrong attitude to be in the Forces regarding fitness. The Fitness test in all 3 services is designed to showa BASIC leval of all round fitness, which includes CV, and as such can only be maesured by testing a CV exersise such as runing:rolleyes:. Be that the MSFT or the 1.5mile timed run, which i prefer TBH.
Surely you signed up knowing fintess would be involved?? And yes recently the RAF has bought its fitness closer in line to that of the Army. IMO about time as well.
All serving people need to havea certain leval of fitness regardles of trade or job due tosome of the situations we could find ourselfs in.
Now i dont claim to be the fittest in the world, infact i am not. However i am resoanbly fit can do the mile and a half in probably 9min 30 which i think is ok at almost 30 . I have to train at it to keek fit but accept that it is part of my job and get on with it rather than bleet about not needing to be fit to do my job. Right now in this post it could be as you clainm that i dont need to be fit, i sit at a PC all day. However my next posting will probably see me back in the proper field army on tour and needing to be fit. Hence i keep a good alround basic leval of fitness up now.
I singed on the line take the money and accept i need to keep my side of the deal up by being ready to do any job the Army ask of me now and in the future.
I think the new start is = to what used to be level 4, its about that pace but we still go to 9.10 as head said... thing is one shuttle more is level 10... so its pretty much level 10... why I said that.
Im happy that you are a good runner. :)
With me being stocky (not fat, muscular) and small 5' 6" and get pain from shin splints im pretty crap at running, probably because I don't do much running due to the pain. I can push press ups out till the cows come home though. I did 70 in 50 seconds last time... :rolleyes:
Why the RAF associates fitness with running a shed load of shuttles I don't know. I cant say as I've had to do any running to do with my job other than for the blasted fitness test. tsh.
Yes it isn't good when anyone has shin splints. I have never had them but do know people who have and have been in pain with them and find it a struggle when running etc... Fitness is very different in the RAF to the Army, I take it you are a gym person weights etc... rather than a runner. Most people I know in the RAF just turn up at the bleep test on the day and pass without any problems or any prior training :).
Good luck :D
I'm 27 and in the RAF. I have to run to level 9.10 in the bleep test. We start from level 0 as we always have done. The levels have gone up recently. This time last year I only needed level 8.10. Not that 9.10 is massively difficult though. The last one I ran I kept running just to beat a baby officer who was trying to prove that he was fitter than his troops. Poor lad was knackered by level 12:D
What level did you get to? Or did you drop out after the baby Officer once you had beaten them :cool:? I bet you felt great :D:D:D.
Tiger 55
24-09-08, 11:10 AM
the MSFT or the 1.5mile timed run, which i prefer TBH.
The trouble with the 1.5 miler is that it also tests your ability as a middle distance runner. Some people inevitably c*ck it up by going off too fast. Or not fast enough. The MSFT is uncockupable. :)
I kept running just to beat a baby officer who was trying to prove that he was fitter than his troops.
Perhaps you'd prefer your officers to just quit at the bare minimum pass point? I know who I'd rather go into battle with.
Dangerous Dave
24-09-08, 12:14 PM
Did you have Flat feet when you joined up? If so WTF did they let you in for??
No longer a valid excuse, plus all the services have been short of staff for many years now. All our lot are long servers with real experience.
the RAF has bought its fitness closer in line to that of the Army. IMO about time as well.
+1, now lets bring the Armys up.
I have to train at it to keek fit but accept that it is part of my job and get on with it rather than bleet about not needing to be fit to do my job. Right now in this post it could be as you clainm that i dont need to be fit, i sit at a PC all day. However my next posting will probably see me back in the proper field army on tour and needing to be fit.
+1, you should be ready for what is around the corner and not what is happening now. Some aspects of the services need to be on constant readiness, you can't take a month off of your fitness regime.
I singed on the line take the money and accept i need to keep my side of the deal up by being ready to do any job the Army ask of me now and in the future.
+ 1, well apart from the Army bit.
Perhaps you'd prefer your officers to just quit at the bare minimum pass point? I know who I'd rather go into battle with.
I would never go into a combat situation with the service I am in now with an Officer.
ThEGr33k
24-09-08, 01:53 PM
Yes it isn't good when anyone has shin splints. I have never had them but do know people who have and have been in pain with them and find it a struggle when running etc... Fitness is very different in the RAF to the Army, I take it you are a gym person weights etc... rather than a runner. Most people I know in the RAF just turn up at the bleep test on the day and pass without any problems or any prior training :).
Good luck :D
Yes, I did power lifting for about a year. Stopped doing that though as my lifting buddy went onto days so wasn't about at all while I was. :(
Did you have Flat feet when you joined up? If so WTF did they let you in for??
Now i am not saying you dont suffer from Shin splints but in my experiance people dont understand them and use them as an excuse for bing cr*p at running and used by malingerers to get out of PT, not saying you are doing that though. As they are usualy caused by over exersising rather than just appearing from the start.
I dont know why they let me in... perhaps they are that desperate that they just let anyone in these days... I dont know. LOL
The shins usually start playing up at about the 5 mins of running stage, I can run through it but it feels like some thwait it cracking my shins with a bat every step, not so great. :( So unfortunatly there is no way to properly ease myself back into running.
Also its a muscular problem that in most cases gently increasing the ammount of exersise in stages and stretching will ensure you dont suffer from them. As will avoiding to much tarmac and hard surface running. I have genuinly had them once in my Army career, they lasted about 2 weeks and i just rested and stretched and got back into running gently. They have never come back. A lot of people get a slight pain in their legs during exersise and cry off claiming shin splints.
I still do the training, but we dont have compulsory PT like you do so I can do what I like which is mostly the bike and the rower both of which I can do for a long time. :) No pain YAY!
TBH you sound like you have the wrong attitude to be in the Forces regarding fitness. The Fitness test in all 3 services is designed to showa BASIC leval of all round fitness, which includes CV, and as such can only be maesured by testing a CV exersise such as runing:rolleyes:. Be that the MSFT or the 1.5mile timed run, which i prefer TBH.
I am getting out, so maybe you are right. :rolleyes: IMO getting to level 10 on the bleep test is much harder than the 1.5 mile run, the turns Grrr hate them. Also on the run you can choose your own pace and generally start faster finish slower where on the bleep test its pre set speeds and it gets faster.
What pressups do you have to do? Isnt it 35 in 2 min? We have 20 in one min. Id say ours was harder there too. Not that doing either amount should take more than 30 seconds...
Dont get me wrong i think there should be fitness in the forces but I think it should be a little more individually based. Expecting me to be able to run as well as someone who is a lanky 6'+ is stupid yet they do. Also why is it that ladies have to do so much less, is it that bullets dont chase them as well as Blokes so they dont have to run as far? If them getting to level 6 is good enough then me getting to level 6 should be good enough! :confused: Equal ops and all that?
Surely you signed up knowing fintess would be involved?? And yes recently the RAF has bought its fitness closer in line to that of the Army. IMO about time as well.
All serving people need to havea certain leval of fitness regardles of trade or job due tosome of the situations we could find ourselfs in.
Id love to know when ill be needed to run? Chase sheep about maybe? :confused:
Now i dont claim to be the fittest in the world, infact i am not. However i am resoanbly fit can do the mile and a half in probably 9min 30 which i think is ok at almost 30 . I have to train at it to keek fit but accept that it is part of my job and get on with it rather than bleet about not needing to be fit to do my job. Right now in this post it could be as you clainm that i dont need to be fit, i sit at a PC all day. However my next posting will probably see me back in the proper field army on tour and needing to be fit. Hence i keep a good alround basic leval of fitness up now.
I singed on the line take the money and accept i need to keep my side of the deal up by being ready to do any job the Army ask of me now and in the future.
Aye. im glad you enjoy it, you seem to be the typical type that enjoys all the crap that comes with the job and enjoys making everyone else feel unworthy by saying we should love the core. I for one dont enjoy the poor pay the being treat like a prisoner, which is how it feels often and being treat like a child at school... Id love to say the money was worth it but it isnt, my brother who is 2 years younger is on twice my wage and he doesnt have to put up with this rubbish.
Cheers, rant over :p
Yes, I did power lifting for about a year. Stopped doing that though as I got fed up with it plus my lifting buddy went onto days so wasn't about at all while I was. :(
I dont know why they let me in... perhaps they are that desperate that they just let anyone in these days... I dont know. LOL
The shins usually start playing up at about the 5 mins of running stage, I can run through it but it feels like some thwait it cracking my shins with a bat every step, not so great. :( So unfortunatly there is no way to properly ease myself back into running.
I still do the training, but we dont have compulsory PT like you do so I can do what I like which is mostly the bike and the rower both of which I can do for a long time. :) No pain YAY!
I am getting out, so maybe you are right. :rolleyes: IMO getting to level 10 on the bleep test is much harder than the 1.5 mile run, the turns Grrr hate them. Also on the run you can choose your own pace and generally start faster finish slower where on the bleep test its pre set speeds and it gets faster.
What pressups do you have to do? Isnt it 35 in 2 min? We have 20 in one min. Id say ours was harder there too.
Dont get me wrong i think there should be fitness in the forces but I think it should be a little more individually based. Expecting me to be able to run as well as someone who is a lanky 6'+ is stupid yet they do. Also why is it that ladies have to do so much less, is it that bullets dont chase them as well as Blokes so they dont have to run as far? If them getting to level 6 is good enough then me getting to level 6 should be good enough! :confused: Equal ops and all that?
Id love to know when ill be needed to run? Chase sheep about maybe? :confused:
Aye. im glad you enjoy it, you seem to be the typical type that enjoys all the crap that comes with the job and enjoys making everyone else feel unworthy by saying we should love the core. I for one dont enjoy the poor pay the being treat like a prisoner, which is how it feels often and being treat like a child at school... Id love to say the money was worth it but it isnt, my brother who is 2 years younger is on twice my wage and he doesnt have to put up with this rubbish.
Cheers, rant over :p
Ha ha yes they do tend to let almost anyone in nowadays, some are keen and green and some are not. I think the majority are not and join up for a trade and security rather than the green stuff and most stay in as they will get a decent wage, good pension, cheap living and not be affected by redundancy etc...
With your quals and experience you are most definitely sure to find a job that is more than twice your current wage :D.
However Neio is, very disciplined in his training regime especially as he doesn't have organised PT as in a normal working unit so does well to keep up his level of fitness. It is hard for anyone to drag themselves out for a run or to the gym when they could easily just sit there and surf the net instead. Having run with Neio I can say his fitness level is pretty good :D
When I left the RAF in 86 I had to have a leaving medical, apparently I had flat feet, a heart murmur and was apparently too short to have been in the mob in the first place, makes you think dunnit ?
When I left the RAF in 86 I had to have a leaving medical, apparently I had flat feet, a heart murmur and was apparently too short to have been in the mob in the first place, makes you think dunnit ?
:confused: When did you join the RAF and how come they didn't notice at the time?
ThEGr33k
24-09-08, 02:21 PM
However Neio is, very disciplined in his training regime especially as he doesn't have organised PT as in a normal working unit so does well to keep up his level of fitness. It is hard for anyone to drag themselves out for a run or to the gym when they could easily just sit there and surf the net instead. Having run with Neio I can say his fitness level is pretty good :D
Which is good I cant deny! I almost always go to the gym for 30 mins to an hour a day but ill still struggle through the run :(
The thing is the people who are ok/good at running, the kind that almost naturally can run the fitness test that put those of us who cant down wouldnt like it if it went from a running fitness test to a strength test. People who are crap at weights would moan same as I am now. :p
How I would run it if I could would be a points system. So right this guy can get level 12 so that gets him 120 points, can do 20 press ups so that gets him 40 points and can do 40 situps, that gets him 40 points. Anything over 160 points is a pass. Then I can do it without having to kill myself on the run as I can rely on my strenght to pass.
Bah. Not to worry.
Which is good I cant deny! I almost always go to the gym for 30 mins to an hour a day but ill still struggle through the run :(
The thing is the people who are ok/good at running, the kind that almost naturally can run the fitness test that put those of us who cant down wouldnt like it if it went from a running fitness test to a strength test. People who are crap at weights would moan same as I am now. :p
How I would run it if I could would be a points system. So right this guy can get level 12 so that gets him 120 points, can do 20 press ups so that gets him 40 points and can do 40 situps, that gets him 40 points. Anything over 160 points is a pass. Then I can do it without having to kill myself on the run as I can rely on my strenght to pass.
Bah. Not to worry.
Yes I am much better at running and only do light weights. You have shin splints so may never realise your running capabilities due to the pain regardless of the fact that you prefer weights and other gym work. The points system is not a bad idea IMHO although others may disapprove LMAO :rolleyes: ;) Anyway you only have 2 more to do and that's it no more :D bet you can't wait and to earn all that money :cool:
:confused: When did you join the RAF and how come they didn't notice at the time?
76-86 and god knows why they didnt pick up on it at the time.
ThEGr33k
24-09-08, 02:38 PM
Yes I am much better at running and only do light weights. You have shin splints so may never realise your running capabilities due to the pain regardless of the fact that you prefer weights and other gym work. The points system is not a bad idea IMHO although others may disapprove LMAO :rolleyes: ;) Anyway you only have 2 more to do and that's it no more :D bet you can't wait and to earn all that money :cool:
Aye if what you say is right I look forward to a more rewarding and hopefully more interesting job! :D
76-86 and god knows why they didnt pick up on it at the time.
Why did you have issues with you legs?
Apart from the fact theyre a bit short, no not really, I only foiund out for defo I had flat feet when I had to visit a sports injury clinc ansd was told Id need orthotics in my shoes if I ever wanted to run without injury.
ThEGr33k
24-09-08, 02:43 PM
Apart from the fact theyre a bit short, no not really, I only foiund out for defo I had flat feet when I had to visit a sports injury clinc ansd was told Id need orthotics in my shoes if I ever wanted to run without injury.
No shin splints? Lucky if thats the case! :(
How tall are you?
No shin splints? Lucky if thats the case! :(
How tall are you?
No, shin plints, well maybe once when I tried some new shoes, but had runners knee and achilles tedonitis on and off for years, Im a shade under 5''4' btw
ThEGr33k
24-09-08, 02:51 PM
No, shin plints, well maybe once when I tried some new shoes, but had runners knee and achilles tedonitis on and off for years, Im a shade under 5''4' btw
Ah im 5' 6". So short ar$e club :cool:
Dangerous Dave
24-09-08, 05:10 PM
With your quals and experience you are most definitely sure to find a job that is more than twice your current wage :D.
What is the average wage of a junior rank in the RAF, if you don't mind me asking?
The points system is not a bad idea
I agree just as long as it is used under the correct circumstances, i.e. you don't want someone that can't run or walk if your unit spends a lot of time on a yomp do you?
Ah im 5' 6". So short ar$e club :cool:
At 6'1 I'm technically too tall to do my old job!
ThEGr33k
24-09-08, 05:48 PM
What is the average wage of a junior rank in the RAF, if you don't mind me asking?
Im on £18K a year... well about £12 in the pocket once I get ripped off. :( TBH I cant really get it much worse in Civvy street! Doing 48 hours a week as well means im not really getting paid that well.
Im on £18K a year... well about £12 in the pocket once I get ripped off. :( TBH I cant really get it much worse in Civvy street! Doing 48 hours a week as well means im not really getting paid that well.
You will definitely earn more than that in Civvy street esp with your quals and now that you have some experience under your belt :D but I would keep an eye on the job situation as it isn't look so great out here at the moment...
Dangerous Dave
24-09-08, 05:55 PM
Im on £18K a year....
Wow, that ain't good is it.
Doing 48 hours a week as well means im not really getting paid that well.
How come only 48hrs a week?
I agree just as long as it is used under the correct circumstances, i.e. you don't want someone that can't run or walk if your unit spends a lot of time on a yomp do you?
At 6'1 I'm technically too tall to do my old job!
Yes you are right and it would have to be well thought out.
Technically too tall to do your old job :shock:?
ThEGr33k
24-09-08, 06:03 PM
Wow, that ain't good is it.
How come only 48hrs a week?
No its not...
Oh I slack off a bit like... :rolleyes:
Im on £18K a year... well about £12 in the pocket once I get ripped off. :( TBH I cant really get it much worse in Civvy street! Doing 48 hours a week as well means im not really getting paid that well.
48 hours a week ain't bad considering you are paid 24 hours a day 365 days a year ;)
Foxy runs and hides :shock:
blueflame
24-09-08, 06:09 PM
I was held at her majesty's pleasure for 12 years (86-98) and served in some lovely holiday camps, some had plenty of sand, some had plenty of rain, but all of em had plenty of alcohol ;-).....left as a CPL, some seriously good mates & a life time of memories hic!
ThEGr33k
24-09-08, 06:12 PM
48 hours a week ain't bad considering you are paid 24 hours a day 365 days a year ;)
Foxy runs and hides :shock:
Yes you should Run GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. I HATE that! LOL. "Only time off is that minute between 2359 and 0000Hrs" is the other corker. Well if I get payed 24 hours im well under the minimum wage :p
Dangerous Dave
24-09-08, 06:12 PM
some seriously good mates & a life time of memories hic!
Its the best bit, depends if you part company with them though.
I was held at her majesty's pleasure for 12 years (86-98) and served in some lovely holiday camps, some had plenty of sand, some had plenty of rain, but all of em had plenty of alcohol ;-).....left as a CPL, some seriously good mates & a life time of memories hic!
Yes good times my friend :D and then you saw the light?? :D
Yes you should Run GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. I HATE that! LOL. "Only time off is that minute between 2359 and 0000Hrs" is the other corker. Well if I get payed 24 hours im well under the minimum wage :p
Ha ha thought I would reel you in there, sorry :D ;)
blueflame
24-09-08, 06:19 PM
I did see the light! When i was in the forces we had 2 mins off because 0000hrs wasnt recognised as a time so 2359hrs - 0001hrs was 2 mins! have they changed the way the tell the time then? lol
I did see the light! When i was in the forces we had 2 mins off because 0000hrs wasnt recognised as a time so 2359hrs - 0001hrs was 2 mins! have they changed the way the tell the time then? lol
Yes and then you worked with me and welcome to .org by the way :D.
By the way, what did you do with your 2 mins off? LMAO ;)
Dangerous Dave
24-09-08, 06:27 PM
We were once stepped down off of alert for a family break, 5 minutes in total and we in a different county! It was our first time off in two weeks, trussed up in full gear day and night.
Depends on your frame of mind, I enjoy my job and the light isn't walking away from it.
blueflame
24-09-08, 06:29 PM
I'm suprised you cant remember what i did with those 2 mins Foxy?! lol ;-) had time for a smoke too......
We were once stepped down off of alert for a family break, 5 minutes in total and we in a different county! It was our first time off in two weeks, trussed up in full gear day and night.
Depends on your frame of mind, I enjoy my job and the light isn't walking away from it.
Indeed, if you like your job it doesn't always make sense in walking away from it. Although some do like to leave on a high note and for others there might be some other reason that makes them leave.
Dangerous Dave
24-09-08, 06:34 PM
Although some do like to leave on a high note and for others there might be some other reason that makes them leave.
True, not sure if there is a higher note anymore. A lot crack from here, unfortunately the MOD does bugger all for them or their families.
blueflame
24-09-08, 06:44 PM
High note has still got to be the mates, along with knowing you're a better person for doing something for your country, where the lesser spotted civilian hasnt the mental capacity to understand what you have experienced.....!
I am getting out, so maybe you are right. :rolleyes: IMO getting to level 10 on the bleep test is much harder than the 1.5 mile run, the turns Grrr hate them. Also on the run you can choose your own pace and generally start faster finish slower where on the bleep test its pre set speeds and it gets faster.
What pressups do you have to do? Isnt it 35 in 2 min? We have 20 in one min. Id say ours was harder there too. Not that doing either amount should take more than 30 seconds...
. Also why is it that ladies have to do so much less, is it that bullets dont chase them as well as Blokes so they dont have to run as far? If them getting to level 6 is good enough then me getting to level 6 should be good enough! :confused: Equal ops and all that?
:p
LOL funniest thing i have read so far. RAF fitter than the ARMY. The MSFT is a piece of pi%% a fookinn joke replacement for the 1.5mile run, which is actually 2 given the warm up and use to be (and still should be IMO)3miles with 1.5 as a squad as a warm up and 1.5 best effort.
Leval 10 on the MSFT is not any more demanding on the body, infact i would say given there is no wind or weather to take into account its eaiser.
Actually i think you wil find the Army pressups is 45 in 2 min below the age of 30, so still a higher standard than the crabs. and for info the sit ups are 50 in 2 min for 30 and below and under 10.30 for the best effort 1,5 mile run.
That second bit just wound me up to be fair, You have to do more as you are a bloke!! although your bleeting about how its unfair you have to do the mean and nasty fitness test has me wondering. Females are given more time due to the bloomin obvious general lower leval of physical endurance. Most but not all cases. I know some very fit females who TBH blow me away with their standard of fitness.
I know you have signed off and TBH sounds like the right thing for you.
However Neio is, very disciplined in his training regime especially as he doesn't have organised PT as in a normal working unit so does well to keep up his level of fitness. It is hard for anyone to drag themselves out for a run or to the gym when they could easily just sit there and surf the net instead. Having run with Neio I can say his fitness level is pretty good :D
aww thanks! I try my best.
Dangerous Dave
24-09-08, 06:57 PM
where the lesser spotted civilian hasnt the mental capacity to understand what you have experienced.....!
A lot of Civi's see us as thugs, apparently all we do is go out and pick fights.
If they knew that virtually every day of the year an operative is on a routine patrol or surveillance objective to defend their country would they see us any different? No. 365 days a year the UK has four teams on alert, 50% of the service will be available on a moments notice in support as well.
I swore to protect my country, and this is what people think of us!
blueflame
24-09-08, 07:03 PM
DD the lesser spotted civilian hasnt the mental capacity to understand what you have experienced.....take the moral high ground, rise above them because the lesser spotted civilian hasnt the mental capacity to understand what life is about let alone notice that people like yourself protect the very world that they reside in......who's the better person?
Dangerous Dave
24-09-08, 07:08 PM
DD the lesser spotted civilian hasnt the mental capacity to understand what you have experienced.....take the moral high ground, rise above them because the lesser spotted civilian hasnt the mental capacity to understand what life is about let alone notice that people like yourself protect the very world that they reside in......who's the better person?
I know, it just winds my up and I am not exactly the most cheerful person in the world!
blueflame
24-09-08, 07:10 PM
....by the sounds of things you have earned your "grumpy wings" too lol ;-)
ThEGr33k
24-09-08, 09:12 PM
LOL funniest thing i have read so far. RAF fitter than the ARMY. The MSFT is a piece of pi%% a fookinn joke replacement for the 1.5mile run, which is actually 2 given the warm up and use to be (and still should be IMO)3miles with 1.5 as a squad as a warm up and 1.5 best effort.
Leval 10 on the MSFT is not any more demanding on the body, infact i would say given there is no wind or weather to take into account its eaiser.
Actually i think you wil find the Army pressups is 45 in 2 min below the age of 30, so still a higher standard than the crabs. and for info the sit ups are 50 in 2 min for 30 and below and under 10.30 for the best effort 1,5 mile run.
That second bit just wound me up to be fair, You have to do more as you are a bloke!! although your bleeting about how its unfair you have to do the mean and nasty fitness test has me wondering. Females are given more time due to the bloomin obvious general lower leval of physical endurance. Most but not all cases. I know some very fit females who TBH blow me away with their standard of fitness.
I know you have signed off and TBH sounds like the right thing for you.
Id much rather do your fitness test than mine... Hmmm. Not that id want to be in the Army, I dislike the way I get treat at work, in the army its worse.
You are right, life in the forces just continually annoys me. The ammount of pointless rubbish all the time is just irritating. I cant see any reason to put up with it. I guess you do?
DD the lesser spotted civilian hasnt the mental capacity to understand what you have experienced.....take the moral high ground, rise above them because the lesser spotted civilian hasnt the mental capacity to understand what life is about let alone notice that people like yourself protect the very world that they reside in......who's the better person?
Thats the problem we dont/rarely seem to fight to protect the UK anymore do we? We go into countries half way around the world and mess around because of some unknown reason... whatever the reason the PM is kicking around at the time. This for some reason makes the general public thinks its our doing. They dont realise we cant do anything about what happens and what we have to do.
aww thanks! I try my best.
Yes you do, however, you still have to do Bannerdown with me though :D ;)
What level did you get to? Or did you drop out after the baby Officer once you had beaten them :cool:? I bet you felt great :D:D:D.
Got to 12.6. He managed 12.5 so I ran one more to prove a point then stopped. To be fair I was pretty knackered. I reckon on a good day I could run to 13.
What is the average wage of a junior rank in the RAF, if you don't mind me asking?
I'm a corporal techie and I'm on 31k.
Link = http://www.armedforces.co.uk/raf/listings/l0049.html
Got to 12.6. He managed 12.5 so I ran one more to prove a point then stopped. To be fair I was pretty knackered. I reckon on a good day I could run to 13.
Impressive, I only ever got to 11.7 LOL.
Id much rather do your fitness test than mine... Hmmm. Not that id want to be in the Army, I dislike the way I get treat at work, in the army its worse.
You are right, life in the forces just continually annoys me. The ammount of pointless rubbish all the time is just irritating. I cant see any reason to put up with it. I guess you do?
Thats the problem we dont/rarely seem to fight to protect the UK anymore do we? We go into countries half way around the world and mess around because of some unknown reason... whatever the reason the PM is kicking around at the time. This for some reason makes the general public thinks its our doing. They dont realise we cant do anything about what happens and what we have to do.
You can’t cope with the RAF fitness with out hurting your fanny, so what hope have you with the Armys??
You sound very bitter with the RAF, and TBH not suited to the forces at all. If you cant cope with the RAF way of life thank fook you did not join the Army, you would be crying yourself to sleep every night.
When did you join up? As you sound quite junior, If it was post 2003 you really have no excuse to moan about being sent to places that don’t concern the UK. You joined up knowing full well where you could go.
I have been to your station on a project we worked on and although it is in the ar*e end of no where, its so tiny and with so few people the bullsh*t cant be that much, If you cant cope with it there god help you if you had to go to TCW.
This all may sound harsh , but you really are not the sort of person who should be in the Forces by the sound of it. Maybe its just a bad experience that has made you like it or maybe you are just not cut out for it. But I am sure not all flying stations are like that place , an d I doubt many work shifts like yours in your trade.
Dangerous Dave
25-09-08, 09:06 AM
I'm a corporal techie and I'm on 31k.
I just looked at the equivalent to a CSgt, and its highest grade earns £36,511.68, god you guys are well under paid!
Thats the problem we dont/rarely seem to fight to protect the UK anymore do we? We go into countries half way around the world and mess around because of some unknown reason... whatever the reason the PM is kicking around at the time. This for some reason makes the general public thinks its our doing. They dont realise we cant do anything about what happens and what we have to do.
Exactly, remember London got bombed because the PM agreed to fight with the Americans in Afghanistan.
The first armed military unit to touch Afghan soil was the SBS, dropped in via C130 and spent weeks doing reconnaissance and cave searching. These two teams remained in Afghan for 273 days straight, we got one hell of a sun tan but did we seal the fate of the British Armed Forces? There are fresh soldiers out there dying, no offence to the Army people on here but you are not trained to do half the stuff your commanders except of you. The H&K updated SA80 is still pants, an excellent design on paper but it isn't good enough for front line fighting.
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