My SV's peeing oil :(

[Dave20046]

Me again....
Did an oil & filter change the other day, noticed it was going down a bit, there was a drip on the new oil filter so I've tightened that up. But today I noticed it's gone down again (and a little stain underneath the bike) and the oil drop bolt is wet and also the oil filter still looks a bit greasy and both have stains all round them. Do I need a new washer for the bolt or something and if the oil filters still leaking does that mean I've bust the seal :(
Thanks


Numpty

[Alpinestarhero]

The filter can be done up hand tight (I always do!) SO give it a bit more of a squeeze. The sump bolt uses a crush washer (copper?) and sometimes you need to replace that (there is only so much they can be crushed to form the seal I suppose)

Are thre any other area's that you might be leaking oil from? I used to have an oil leak from my clutch cover :bball:

[Sideshow#36]

Been racing all year, done probably 6 Oil+Filter changes now. The only time it slightly weapt was from the filter and that was because I forgot to smear a little oil over the seal. I have never replaced the copper washer either. I'd just advise wiping it clean, then going for a little ride then check on it.

[xXBADGERXx]

I did my change on Saturday and noticed I had an aluminium washer on my sump bolt . The nut had dug in and formed a lip in the washer , so I flipped it over and put the lip up against the bottom of the sump and installed the bolt to the correct tightness . The lip created a seal against the bottom of the sump and I have had no leaks . Just a small tip for the Org :D

[Dave20046]

I smeared oil on the new filter did it up hand tight but it was slippy so gave it half a turn with a ratchet - maybe I overtightened it originally?
The bolts definitely constantly wet so I think I'll have a go at replacing the washer see if that helps

[xXBADGERXx]

When I installed the oil filter I wound it in hand tight , then grabbed it with one hand and gave it a good tweak by hand and no more , has been fine since .

[petevtwin650]

I smeared oil on the new filter did it up hand tight but it was slippy so gave it half a turn with a ratchet - maybe I overtightened it originally?
The bolts definitely constantly wet so I think I'll have a go at replacing the washer see if that helps

What some people do is leave the old rubber oil filter washer on, so you have in effect two thick seals and they might then allow an oil leak. Don't think you can overtighten the filter as when I 1st used to do mine a manual said to do it up hand tight and then 2 full rotations with a socket:shock: Man was that difficult to do:( Dunno what they were thinking.

Half a turn used to do for mine.

[fastdruid]

What some people do is leave the old rubber oil filter washer on, so you have in effect two thick seals and they might then allow an oil leak.

The latest Honda filters I got even have a sticker on saying "Make sure old O-Ring is removed".

Druid

[Dave20046]

The latest Honda filters I got even have a sticker on saying "Make sure old O-Ring is removed".

Druid
The o ring is in the old filter int it? It scraped the surface free of crap so don't think that's it

[Dangerous Dave]

Clean the bike up with degreaser, then take it for a ride. The oil will leave a trail and you will be able to identify where it is coming from.

Sounds like the crush washer on the sump bolt may need replacing at some point also, you don't have to do this after every oil change but after a time it starts to wear.

[AndyBrad]

hmm could be many things but are you sure its threading right? It shoudlnt be ****ing oil even if its not sealing well. Just a drip.

On a similar note does anyone know the oring size for the clutch cover?

[Dave20046]

hmm could be many things but are you sure its threading right? It shoudlnt be ****ing oil even if its not sealing well. Just a drip.

On a similar note does anyone know the oring size for the clutch cover?
it is just a drip really - but a drip to much! It doesn't seem to have lost any or much (maybe quarter of the space between the full and low markers on the window) oil tonight since checking it lastnight, but I haven't run it.
However I've noticed that when I removed one of the engine bolts to take off the belly pan the bolt was wet with oil and there was actually a damp greasy patches down the engine casing from there soperhaps it's running down to the bottom and dripping off the sump bolt? Is this normal??

[Dave20046]

I hope someone can answer that before it goes dark! ^

Stop me draining my oil pointlessly

[Dangerous Dave]

Clean the bike up with degreaser, then take it for a ride. The oil will leave a trail and you will be able to identify where it is coming from.
Read the above, it will pin point exactly where the leak is coming from...

The clutch cover is a common leaking point on the Curvy's and it is the reason why the later ones and Pointy's had the one piece clutch cover.

[dizzyblonde]

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However I've noticed that when I removed one of the engine bolts to take off the belly pan the bolt was wet with oil and there was actually a damp greasy patches down the engine casing from there soperhaps it's running down to the bottom and dripping off the sump bolt? Is this normal??

One of my Svs does that. It leaks more 'obviously' when its run, but its only a drip. I lost about 200ml up to the Ecosse and the same again on the way down...700 miles in all. It doesn't lose any after its stood a while. We backed off the bolts and torqued em back up again, as sometimes its because they are overtightened, but in my case I think the seal behind is shagged. Theres two places mines leaking from..one is the bottom bolt on the plastic clutch case, the other is below..can't remember which one. Either way its common

[dizzyblonde]

Also the tip from Dave is a good one, with dgreaser. My other half also suggested to me to put some talc on it afterwards, before you go for a ride, sounds daft but, you would get a clear marker on the talc where the drip ran down. i haven't got round to it yet

[Dave20046]

Also the tip from Dave is a good one, with dgreaser. My other half also suggested to me to put some talc on it afterwards, before you go for a ride, sounds daft but, you would get a clear marker on the talc where the drip ran down. i haven't got round to it yet
Cheers, I'll give it a go!
Won't drop the oil again just yet til' I've tried it

[Dave20046]

Well just started it up with that bolt out and it was spluttering a fair bit of oil out of the hole. I've noticed that someone's put a washer on this engine bolt at some point - probably the mong I bought it off (wondered why I managed to haggle him £300 off:rolleyes:) infact I've also noticed that a lower engine bolt (that holds the belly pan in is longer than all the rest so I bet said mong has put the bolt that's too long in that hole and wrecked whatever seal (arf arf!) is back there. Orr am I being the mong and have got the bolts mixed up and the longer one should in fact go in that hole???:confused:(fingers crossed)

Anyhow not a happy bunny :smt090

[Dave20046]

Put a fibre washer on said bolt...hopefully that'll hold tight :rolleyes:

[Dave20046]

grr it's leaking at the heads now. Lost about 300ml yesterday/lastnight. I've been advised to torque up the head bolts and if tht doesn;t sort it a new gasket set.
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