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gaz-sv650s
22-09-08, 08:08 PM
All

this is probably been said and done , but would like pointers on how where etc etc

my curvy has a lot of loose play in the throttle before it kicks in and ive heard that something like this could sort it out


main reason is ive just been on my brothers 58 plate r6 and damn its a scary missle !!! fly by wire ? more like kiss my ass goodbye ?

any help appreciated

cheers
gaz-sv650s

xXBADGERXx
22-09-08, 08:12 PM
You can adjust the cables to remove the play , the R6 throttle tube is installed mainly for the pure fact that it is a quarter turn throttle rather than a good handful on the SV .

fizzwheel
22-09-08, 08:17 PM
this is probably been said and done , but would like pointers on how where etc etc

Seek and you shall find.. use the search funciton, subjects been done to death...

heres a few threads to get you started...

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=93567&highlight=throttle+tube

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=87813&highlight=throttle+tube

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=85094&highlight=throttle+tube

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=63627&highlight=throttle+tube

Hope that helps

Nicky S
22-09-08, 11:25 PM
Quoted from www.canyonchasers.net/shop/sv/R6-throttle.php (http://www.canyonchasers.net/shop/sv/R6-throttle.php)

One of the few things I dislike about the SV is how long the throw is on the throttle. Particularly when riding on the track, I’ll have to readjust my hand on the throttle to spin it up to higher RPM.
http://www.canyonchasers.net/shop/sv/images/lil_throttle_tube_2-thumb.jpg (http://www.canyonchasers.net/shop/sv/images/lil_throttle_tube_2.gif)
While I would assume that this was done by the fine folks as Suzuki to make it easier for newer riders to control the throttle (larger hand movements equate to smaller throttle adjustments) it’s quite frustrating for a more seasoned rider. The amount of throttle movement required is controlled at the carburetor/FI linkage, so any changes to this need to be done at the throttle tube end.
1/4 Throttle’s are available, but can be rather spendy. However, someone over at SVRider (http://www.canyonchasers.net/shop/sv/svrider.com) found out that an R6 throttle tube has a larger diameter. How much trial and error it took to discover this is unknown to me, but I was grateful for their research.
The portion of the throttle tube that the cables wrap around, are slightly larger in diameter on the R6 tube. Almost impossible to discern to the naked eye, it’s enough to shorten throttle movement and decrease the amount of hand movement required to move the throttle linkage.
The hardest part about this modification is actually finding an R6 throttle tube and making sure you get the right one. Avoid trying to find a used one, as Mike did. It’s easier to just click over to ronayers.com (http://www.ronayers.com/) and type in this part number; 5SL-26240-01-00. That’s the exact R6 throttle tube needed. The cost is an exorbitant $7.46.
http://www.canyonchasers.net/shop/sv/images/throttle_tube_4-thumb.jpg (http://www.canyonchasers.net/shop/sv/images/throttle_tube_4.gif)
Installing the tube on the Gen-I (curvy) SV is as simple as taking out the old one and inserting the new one. However, the Gen-II’s need a little bit of modification. (There is no difference between Naked or S version SV’s – Only Gen-I and Gen-II). On the Gen-II’s a little bit of the tube needs to be cut away otherwise the throttle will not return to a fully closed position.
Take the OEM SV throttle tube on the Gen-II and match the notches. The pink marks in this image represent the material that needs to be cut away. Remember, you ONLY need to cut away material on Gen-II SV’s. Gen-I’s require no modification.
http://www.canyonchasers.net/shop/sv/images/throttle_tube_5-thumb.jpg (http://www.canyonchasers.net/shop/sv/images/throttle_tube_5.gif)
For $8 bucks, this is one of the grooviest mods to make to your SV. The difference, while not great, is enough to make spirited riding easier because less hand/arm movement will be required, which means it makes it easier to manage body position and be smooth on the bike.







dose this mean on my 2002 curvy i do not have to cut it ??

yorkie_chris
22-09-08, 11:27 PM
Hey nicky who really posted that? ;)

As far as I know, it's a direct swap.

Nicky S
22-09-08, 11:30 PM
Hey nicky who really posted that? ;)




i did. i thought i would make a effort just for you seeing as i am most likley geting banned soon

Nicky S
22-09-08, 11:31 PM
Hey nicky who really posted that? ;)

As far as I know, it's a direct swap.


as far as you know?? dose that mean 50/50 or yes ? :D

yorkie_chris
22-09-08, 11:33 PM
It means as far as I know. I never say yes to anything for certain untill I've tried it myself.

Nicky S
22-09-08, 11:36 PM
lol ok i will try it out this weekend. what happens if i dont cut it (if i need to) will the throttle just not close ?

Lozzo
23-09-08, 12:46 AM
Hey nicky who really posted that? ;)

As far as I know, it's a direct swap.

Not on a pointy it's not. You do need to trim away the red bits shown in the pics to make it work properly.

hovis
23-09-08, 08:16 AM
straight swap on a curvy, but you have to do a slight mod for it to fit on the pointy (down to the fact pointys are carp)

its not going to suddenly transform your bike into a R6, but i likes it......... and for less than a tenner, worth a punt

Dappa D
23-09-08, 08:36 AM
straight swap on a curvy, but you have to do a slight mod for it to fit on the curvy (down to the fact pointys are carp)

its not going to suddenly transform your bike into a R6, but i likes it......... and for less than a tenner, worth a punt

so is it a straight swap on a curvy or is it a slight mod on a curvy Mr Hovis;)

although ive never liked how much the throttle needs to be twisted to get full throttle id never really thought about anything like this as i wasnt aware of it....think i may have just found my next mod....

:smt058

hovis
23-09-08, 08:40 AM
opps....... edited my post

basicly, its just like a quick action throttle

Dappa D
23-09-08, 09:50 AM
right then ive read every link available on here and all links leading off that!!!

could someone clarify please.....

I already have heated grips fitted....can i keep these and just put the r6 tube underneath my existing grip (ie just change the tubes)

thanks....no debate needed.....i know its not a performance mod....i dont wanna 10 page row with blue or the other guy (can remember name)!!!! hahahaha

hovis
23-09-08, 10:04 AM
I already have heated grips fitted....can i keep these and just put the r6 tube underneath my existing grip (ie just change the hahahaha

yes

i did





no debate needed.....i know its not a performance mod....i dont wanna 10 page row with blue or the other guy (can remember name)!!!! hahahahadid you not read sids post?


Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong!

It adds at least 300bhp and will make women, (or men/goats/whatever you like, we're not prejudiced here), fall at your feet and desire you to their very core.

And you'll get a rebate from the Inland Revenue and dispensation from the Queen to break any old speed limit you like and be immune from prosecution.

Plus a dinner date with Kylie, (or - insert 'celebrity' of your choice), paid for by Tony Bliar hisself. And all for the price of a trip to a Yammy dealer and a few quid of your hard earned.

Little bargain!

Dappa D
23-09-08, 10:09 AM
sweet thanks hovis,

this has to be the most cost effective mod EVER....at £10 for 300bhp gain it works out at £0.033p per HP...definatly worth it!!!!lol

Dangerous Dave
23-09-08, 11:23 AM
my curvy has a lot of loose play in the throttle before it kicks in and ive heard that something like this could sort it out
Adjust the cable!

Interceptor
23-09-08, 12:20 PM
Looks Good, I'll have to give it a try!!!;)

northwind
23-09-08, 12:38 PM
Adjust the cable!

Yeah, do this. You've got an adjustment problem, no reason to replace parts for it. The R6 swap is quite nice mind, certainly worth doing IMO- it's not "quick action" because the throttle's as fast as the hand, it's "short action", which is good for comfort and wrist position. Very nice.

captainsmelly
23-09-08, 01:35 PM
wow! a useful thread just as i was going to ask a similar question. and i thought you lot just natter away to kill time at the office

Dappa D
23-09-08, 01:42 PM
and i thought you lot just natter away to kill time at the office

:shock:

NEVER!

Nicky S
23-09-08, 03:40 PM
wow! a useful thread just as i was going to ask a similar question. and i thought you lot just natter away to kill time at the office

they do but they give help ever now and then :)

gaz-sv650s
23-09-08, 07:03 PM
just been on website mentioned and he dont ship internationally ?

anywhere in uk i can get one from

its a shame cuz i work in international imports !!! (customs)

cheers
gaz-sv650s

Nicky S
23-09-08, 08:10 PM
just been on website mentioned and he dont ship internationally ?

anywhere in uk i can get one from

its a shame cuz i work in international imports !!! (customs)

cheers
gaz-sv650s

well that has stopped my throttle mod :( as gaz-sv650s said is there a uk site i can get one from ??



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skyline
23-09-08, 09:26 PM
Any Yamaha dealer will stock the part I think, just give them the part no for the throttle over the counter

It's something I've been looking at doing as well... and thinking of putting some posh grips/bar ends on as well. Looking forward to getting it done!

Thicko question :smt102 but how would the tube come off/go back on the handlebar? Can't find anything in the Haynes manual...

:D

yorkie_chris
23-09-08, 10:03 PM
It slides off, remove switchgear and disconnect cables first.

St0rmer66
23-09-08, 10:18 PM
Considering doing this, anyone any more info on how it actually affects your riding? I'm a bit concerned that it will make fine throttle adjustments, for example half way around a corner while cranked over, a bit more difficult. Would a shorter throw on the throttle not make it harder to be smooth?

yorkie_chris
23-09-08, 10:19 PM
Yes, but it's the sort of thing you very quickly get used to.

northwind
24-09-08, 12:12 AM
There are Yamaha dealers in the UK you know :) Fowlers do mail order I think.

Interceptor
24-09-08, 07:01 AM
Went down to the local Yamaha Stealers yesterday lunch, handed 'em the part no over the counter and it'll be in Friday £7 ish.........:D

Dangerous Dave
24-09-08, 07:25 AM
Ebay, Breakers, or a Yamaha Dealer!

Dappa D
24-09-08, 10:19 AM
can someone tell me.....

when doing this mod....do you need to go down to where the bottom of the throttle cables are (on the right hand side of the carbs as your sitting on the bike...PITA) and adjust there...

or....

can it all be done up at the throttle end of things without the need to get tank up / box off etc....

reason I ask is i moved the carbs recently and wasnt confident that the throttle cables were fitted back correctly nor the choke and clutch and the bikes in the garage today having these things put right (as well as other things) and wouldnt wanna be fiddling near the carbs again after I get it back...

Thanks

hovis
24-09-08, 10:41 AM
i just did it on the throttle

yorkie_chris
24-09-08, 10:53 AM
Yes can be done on the throttle, if you need more adjustment than that then you go to the carbs.

Dangerous Dave
24-09-08, 11:53 AM
The R6 throttle mod is all at the twist grip end, you simply replace one throttle tube for another. As long as your throttle is well set up now this is all you will need to do.

As Chris said, if any throttle adjustment is needed go to the other end.

Dappa D
24-09-08, 01:26 PM
excellent.....

guy at the garage has called...said throttle is now spot on....suggested i get a new clutch cable tho....valve clearences fine...is balancing the carbs now...going to fowlers tomorrow to get the tube!

cheers guys

Interceptor
27-09-08, 08:18 AM
Job done. 3/4 of an hour, including removing air-box, adjusting cables at carb end, & refitting everything..... Great Mod!!!!!:D

yorkie_chris
27-09-08, 11:36 AM
Has it added 3 million bhp?

Interceptor
28-09-08, 09:04 AM
Has it added 3 million bhp?

At least - if not more, great for overtakin' stuff, can't wait to go out and slay some sportsbikes:riding:

Nicky S
19-10-08, 04:36 PM
any one found a online site that sells this part to the uk ?

thefallenangel
19-10-08, 08:35 PM
Does it matter which R6 you pinch one off?

yorkie_chris
19-10-08, 08:36 PM
Whichever one doesn't have a big burly owner

Lozzo
19-10-08, 10:19 PM
any one found a online site that sells this part to the uk ?

What the hell is wrong with picking up a phone and asking your local Yamaha dealer to order one in?

Nicky S
20-10-08, 06:41 PM
it a mish lol

jimmy-james
16-01-09, 07:24 PM
They dont sell the tubes without the grips anymore according to my local dealer so i had to order the other matching grip as well. All this for the princely sum of £11.80 including VAT BARGAIN! Surely a good set of grips would cost at least that anyway. I will have them on wednesday, yay!

stamasman
16-02-10, 05:01 PM
Hi I'm new on here can anyone tell me if this the right r6 tube for a 2003 points sv it,s for racing
http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt130/stamasman/Photo-0120.jpg