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Wideboy
24-09-08, 07:36 PM
coming to the end of my 4 year apprenticeship so i thought i'd look for another job as i want a change of scenery and bye the way things are going my company is most likely going to fold soon
no one is looking to take on joiners in Hampshire :-? new i was going into a dying trade but didn't realize it was this bad.
can go over to carpentry as that was what i was doing before but its a bit of a waste
anyone else in or been in a dying trade?
Not good.
I'm an apprentice Scaffolder and 11 apprentices got put on their notice yesterday - luckly i wasn't one of them.
Works ok for now but our site will be finished it 5 weeks time :/
Wideboy
24-09-08, 07:42 PM
yeah its crazy, they just put the new apprentice at our place on notice aswell, i just want to get out whilst i can
xXBADGERXx
24-09-08, 08:02 PM
Try using your new found skills making Coffins , that`s a Dying Trade
the_lone_wolf
24-09-08, 08:07 PM
Try using your new found skills making Coffins , that`s a Dying Trade
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xXBADGERXx
24-09-08, 08:14 PM
Perfect reply there Wolf :D
Sorry to add that "Gag" in there guys , in all seriousness you may have to start travelling further to keep your trades going , remember , each year lots of people retire and jack it in , leaving more room for the likes of you guys ;)
454697819
24-09-08, 08:47 PM
direct labour trades will suffer due to the current freeze on cash and cash flow from banks etc...
It might be worth taking the oppertunity to set up on your own, and go from there... start with smaller jobs, maybe more of a handy man, but depends what skills you have.
If you are a site bashing chippy work like that will pick up eventually, however if you are a bespoke joiner it may be more tricky to break into it all..
any way.....
good luck....
CoolGirl
24-09-08, 08:51 PM
Try using your new found skills making Coffins , that`s a Dying Trade
you may well laugh, but a friend's husband is a cabinet maker, and when business was slow that's what he turned his hand to. He's doing very well now with hand-built furniture, and looking to take on an apprentice - despite the economic situation he's got more work than he can handle, and all top-end jobs as well.
xXBADGERXx
24-09-08, 08:53 PM
Well there you go :D , see , told ya LOL
ThEGr33k
24-09-08, 08:54 PM
Go into shop fitting. My bro is a joiner and thats what he does. Pretty good money if you get in with the right firm. :cool:
MR UKI (1)
24-09-08, 09:06 PM
Banking or Finance can be scrubbed off any possible lists too. Nightmare at the moment :(
xXBADGERXx
24-09-08, 09:18 PM
<----------- Shakes head , "Trust you Hovis" :rolleyes:
the_lone_wolf
24-09-08, 09:18 PM
male escort?
no thanks mate...
you should probably start a new thread in the "for sale" section too;)
dizzyblonde
24-09-08, 09:24 PM
you can have my job ... dream job working in a chocolate factory
the_lone_wolf
24-09-08, 09:25 PM
you can have my job ... dream job working in a chocolate factory
http://www.tjtvland.com/sitebuilder/images/OompaLoompa-192x195.png
Don't bother being a solicitor dealing with property either:rolleyes:
dizzyblonde
24-09-08, 09:27 PM
http://www.tjtvland.com/sitebuilder/images/OompaLoompa-192x195.png
nah, thats Im Indoors..hes the one that makes the stuff, I just stuff the tins with goodies
xXBADGERXx
24-09-08, 09:28 PM
Prime Minister seems to be a dodgy position at the moment as well .
Choccy Factory , now I GET why you aren`t too fussed about Chocolate . I used to be a Fitter in a dairy , man I never drank so much Black Coffee after that job I can tell ya .
carnivore
24-09-08, 09:31 PM
Prime Minister seems to be a dodgy position at the moment as well .
Choccy Factory , now I GET why you aren`t too fussed about Chocolate . I used to be a Fitter in a dairy , man I never drank so much Black Coffee after that job I can tell ya .
Quite true, hardly ever touched the 'product' at work. :smt078
xXBADGERXx
24-09-08, 09:32 PM
Please don`t remind me ................... <-------- runs to the loo to hug it
Wideboy
24-09-08, 09:35 PM
so anyone want to take on a joiner? :)
yorkie_chris
24-09-08, 09:52 PM
Yeah OK I'll take you on at pool.
The slowdown in the housing market is going to effect my job sooner or later I think.
I work in transport planning, in particular for housing developers. Basically, I help the developer get planning permission by carrying out transport assessments / analyses which the councils / highways agency require. (basically need to tell them that the additional houses won't generate so much traffic that the road network will become congested)
About 9 months ago our main clients stopped buying new sites - and they haven't started buying since!
Not looking good for a lot of trades. It's suprising how many trades rely on house building!
the_lone_wolf
24-09-08, 10:01 PM
I work in transport planning, in particular for housing developers. Basically, I help the developer get planning permission by carrying out transport assessments / analyses which the councils / highways agency require. (basically need to tell them that the additional houses won't generate so much traffic that the road network will become congested)
About 9 months ago our main clients stopped buying new sites - and they haven't started buying since!
We do the same thing here but the Transport Planning / Highways Engineering side of the business hasn't slowed down much, Topo Survey work seems to have slowed to not much more than a trickle but then we have twice the survey team we had 12 months ago so even if the workload remained the same we'd only look half as busy:rolleyes:
so anyone want to take on a joiner? :)
Yeah OK I'll take you on at pool.
i will take you on at chess
thinking about it i have not had a game of chess for about 5 years
Printing trade is going down the pan too...
We do the same thing here but the Transport Planning / Highways Engineering side of the business hasn't slowed down much, Topo Survey work seems to have slowed to not much more than a trickle but then we have twice the survey team we had 12 months ago so even if the workload remained the same we'd only look half as busy:rolleyes:
We haven't slowed just yet, but I'm predicting a slow down simply because the clients don't appear to have many new projects in the pipeline! :(
Redrow even closed their office near us! :(
Go into shop fitting. My bro is a joiner and thats what he does. Pretty good money if you get in with the right firm. :cool:
+1
My cousin is a joiner in Newcastle and he's earning £200 per day shop fitting (you need to work through the night though).
blacksmithing is going down the pan too... bloody chinese rubbish..
just cant compete ... price of steel is threw the roof.. ppl wont pay for quality craftsmenship any more.
Nicky S
24-09-08, 11:38 PM
well it is not looking good for me then i havent finished collage yet and the jobs are going. never gonig to be a sparky :(
I'm thinking of joining forces with a mate and going out repossessing vehicles and equipment on behalf of finance companies. My mate has done it before, during the last recession, and says it's good money. He's currently a loans manager, and when things take a turn for the worst in that business he turns to the other side and pulls in what hasn't been paid for.
Sounds ideal to me.
I personally think there's a difference between dying 'careers' and dying 'trades'.
Let's face it, the idea of a 'job for life' within a company began to go the way of the Dodo a fair few years ago, even the Forces was a far less secure career even 15 years ago.
Trades, by that I mean those that imply a level of craftsmanship, have been heading that way since the Industrial Revolution - it just has taken some more than others.
What is sad is that it only take's one generation for vital knowledge and experience to be lost. If it's not passed on to an apprentice, it's gone - and yet it can take many more years and research to try to get it back...
... even then we aren't sure we are right.
See - come the appolocalypse we are going to need these craftsmen so we need to preserve their knowledge now...
... I suggest we freeze them in carbonite. ;)
It certainly not good for trades in construction at the moment.
Lots and I mean LOTS of jobs are being put on hold, not going past planning or being scrapped altogether even if they are on site.
I have heard of people being made redundant and then going to london to get in with one of the contractors on the olympic framework and earning twice what they were earning though.
My Dad is a site manager and is getting calls from agencies every couple of day's offering him jobs, so things can't be too bad. It's mainly government stuff- schools, hospitals etc.
blacksmithing is going down the pan too... bloody chinese rubbish..
just cant compete ... price of steel is threw the roof.. ppl wont pay for quality craftsmenship any more.
I met a farrier the other weekend - theres return work for a blacksmith - shoeing horses every 6-8 weeks - he reckons he is shoeing 30 horses a week!
this yr has been the busiest ever ...untill now.
Everythin has slowwed down,but its a good job I am a tight wad and have saved to cover me on times like this.
Now where did I leave my bike keys
timwilky
25-09-08, 09:41 AM
Talking to a neighbour yesterday who owns a plant glazing company. He is telling me they are about 1000 quid a month down on last year with the run down on construction sites and the associated broken windows his company fixes. So he is covering wages at present. But bonuses are a no no.
so anyone want to take on a joiner? :)
The Royal Engineers;)
Wideboy
25-09-08, 04:21 PM
+1
My cousin is a joiner in Newcastle and he's earning £200 per day shop fitting (you need to work through the night though).
i was a shop fitter a while back, money is good but hours are stupid, shop fitters are either young, alcoholics or divorced
Rentboy.................
......again?
chakraist
25-09-08, 06:17 PM
Join the army
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