SV wheelies

[brennen]

I am thinking about going three up on my rear sprockey to get more torque. Will this be better than a power comander?

[Mr Speirs]

You won't get more Torque by going three teeth up. You aren't changing anything in the engine. All your doing is making the rear sprocket larger and therefore the wheel easier to drive giving you faster acceleration at the expense of lower top speed.

You can wheelie an SV without changing the rear sprocket.

[the_lone_wolf]

You won't get more Torque by going three teeth up...

not from the engine, but the torque at the rear wheel will be increased because the radius from which the driving force from the chain acts has increased

it must be true, my computer says it so:

http://www.infendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/nerd-46422.jpg

;)

[neillfergie]

he has a point, the torque output is going to be the same but the driven wheel will get more torque as the gearing will be modified. like a low range box in a 4x4.

still would go for the power commander first and get more power as well.

[Dappa D]

i have 2 extra on the rear.....but was like it when i bought it so not got anything to compare it too.....guess this doesnt really help lol....#

dont think u lose a noticeable amount off the top end tho unless your in the habit of riding at 115+ mph everywhere....thats the point i stop and go back down to a gentle 90 to calm the voices in my head going "your a daddy now...dont be stupid....what if?" but its still pulling so although u will lose some....you may never notice it.....

[Mr Speirs]

Sorry yes I was thinking in the engine. Ill get me coat...in fact don't worry just mail it to me.

[Ceebl]

If this is purely related to wheelies then u shudnt have a problem!!! what year is your sv tho? my mate has a k7 and i cant wheelie it as it has a really weird power delivery! at a guess i wud say the powercommander wud b better than the sproket (no experience with the sv in this) but the powercommander allows the engine to be re-mapped for more power so should in theory wheelie a bit easier!

[fizzwheel]

Wheelies are about technique not about how much BHP you have. Also a power commander isnt going to give you massive BHP gains.

I could wheelie my SVS OK and that had standard gearing.

[injury_ian]

I had my ECU remapped, and the gains were more mid-randge than head lines, but you can only really hope for +2 or 3bhp.

you can get better gains by not eating lunch!*



*depending on the size of yor lunch

[Grinch]

Wheelies scare me...

[Dangerous Dave]

I am thinking about going three up on my rear sprockey to get more torque. Will this be better than a power comander?
They do two different things!

[AndyL]

Wheelies scare me...

:)

Me too, lol

[Dangerous Dave]

You do not need to alter the gearing to wheelie a SV, it is a torquey engine and the bike will wheelie with ease. Your technique is what you need to look at.

my mate has a k7 and i cant wheelie it as it has a really weird power delivery!
Technique, the power delivery is the same mate so if you strongly feel it is that then I would say there is something wrong with his bike!

[Demonz]

Changing the sprocket will make it easier for you. Dont bother about the power commander - it costs to much!

[Red Herring]

Changing the front sprocket (down one tooth) is a whole lot easier and you won't have to lengthen the chain, making it easier to switch between the two sprockets depending on what you're doing.

[brennen]

I can clutch and or throttle a wheely in first but have a hard time doin stand ups in 2nd. I thought with some exhaust and a new sprocket Id get that little bit more.

[hovis]

Wheelies scare me...

ghay





down 1 on the front tis the way

[fizzwheel]

I can clutch and or throttle a wheely in first but have a hard time doin stand ups in 2nd. I thought with some exhaust and a new sprocket Id get that little bit more.


Sprocket will make more difference than the exhaust will.

[Viney]

it must be true, my computer says it so:[/img]

;)Mine just said
Noooo!

Power commanders will alter fueling. It wont really give lots of power.

Jumping up 3 on the rear means that you could possibly need a longer chain, so try dropping 1 on the front instead, going from a 15t to a 14tooth sprocket. Its mkae the Sv much more lively to be honest. However, it reduces your top end slightly if that concerns you, and your fuel consumption rises as well, but if wheelies are waht you want then do it. Me, i cant wheelie to save my life.

[fastdruid]

Did someone mention wheelies? ;)

They just happen, even when you're trying your hardest not to wheelie
http://www.fastdruid.co.uk/albums/cadwell2008all1/thumbs/640x480IC1_07-08-2008_0139.JPG

Druid

[rowdy]

Don't have any probs wheelieing on standard gearing, just a case of practicing. I find getting it to about 6000rpm in second, clutch in ,give it a wrist full and let the clutch out and it'll get on the back wheel perfectly, although some people frown upon this sort of behaviour.

[sv-robo]

[-X;)

[Jay-ninja]

I managed to crash my curvy on Great Marlborough street (London) whilst pulling a wheelie to impress the commuters - Unfortunately the car in front had stopped at the level crossing (idiot!) I reacted by landing hard whilst simultaneously slamming on the front brake.

The result was a me hitting the deck - a wrecked front end (the bike not me) and a broken finger and ankle :(. (Still, a nice girl from Liberty brought me out a glass of water as I had collapsed on the pavement):)

So, the moral of the story is..... don't try popping the front at 8.30am in central London on one of the busiest streets in the UK during rush hour .......Anywhere else is fine though !!!!!!

[chompy]

I managed to crash my curvy on Great Marlborough street (London) whilst pulling a wheelie to impress the commuters - Unfortunately the car in front had stopped at the level crossing (idiot!) I reacted by landing hard whilst simultaneously slamming on the front brake.

The result was a me hitting the deck - a wrecked front end (the bike not me) and a broken finger and ankle :(. (Still, a nice girl from Liberty brought me out a glass of water as I had collapsed on the pavement):)

So, the moral of the story is..... don't try popping the front at 8.30am in central London on one of the busiest streets in the UK during rush hour .......Anywhere else is fine though !!!!!!

ouch, moral of story is dont do wheelies

unless you want to do it on track ect :D then your fine

[SoulKiss]

ouch, moral of story is dont do wheelies

unless you want to do it on track ect :D then your fine

No, moral of the story is dont be an idiotic cnut

[MattCollins]

I gotta wonder about those secondary throttle plates on injected bikes... and what they do to the power delivery when trying to pull the front end up.

Cheers

[Swin]

Not a wheelie man myself, the only two I've ever done were both accidental, but sorry you got hurt any way - even if you probably deserved it!

[benjyman]

How about those with 33bhp SVs? Mine is restricted and it won't wheelie from the throttle alone it needs some clutch action to get it up. I can't keep it up for long at the moment but that's this summer's objective.

[ranathari]

You can wheelie anything with the right technique - the little ****s round where I live wheelie their stolen 11bhp scooters and 125cc bikes all over the place.

[xXBADGERXx]

Did one once past an Audi , I am sure that was what sounded the death knell for that chain , it stretched like chewing gum daily after that ..... never again .

[hob]

Power wheelies don't seem possible and I'm too much of a sissy to do a clutch wheelie.

[xXBADGERXx]

Power is do-able . Second gear doing 30 , slam throttle shut and open again and front end comes up on the gas .

[gettin2dizzy]

Easily do-able :) I'll stick to the BMX though ;)

[Dicky Ticker]

Please answer my question,What purpose does doing wheelies serve?
Unless you are a stunt rider[Is that the right word] you are knackering chains and head stock bearings

[Dave20046]

Please answer my question,What purpose does doing wheelies serve?
Unless you are a stunt rider[Is that the right word] you are knackering chains and head stock bearings
They get you laid :rolleyes:




:smt106

[flymo]

I am thinking about going three up on my rear sprockey to get more torque. Will this be better than a power comander?

Forget about a power commander, total waste of money unless you are worried about tenths of a second in a race. Even in racing its mainly used to smooth out power curves and properly adjust fuel/air ratios rather than increase power on an SV.

A larger rear sprocket will certainly improve acceleration but at the expense of top speed and cruising speed in a particular gear.

You can certainly wheelie an SV without any changes though.

[Dave20046]

loving the facial hair flymo :thumbsup:
Did you see my developments with the bleeding by the way?

[plowsie]

How about those with 33bhp SVs? Mine is restricted and it won't wheelie from the throttle alone it needs some clutch action to get it up. I can't keep it up for long at the moment but that's this summer's objective.
1st gear, crack open and pull. Yoink, up she goes.

[sv650nutter149]

wheelies are fun until you run out of oil.... it goes into the breather pipes and then goes on the road. running out of oil is v bad indeed i blew up my lovely 2005 pointy for being a knob. wheelies only get you laid......on the ground crying. get a cb500 and just stunt that if u wannta stunt at all.

[yorkie_chris]

Please answer my question,What purpose does doing wheelies serve?
Unless you are a stunt rider[Is that the right word] you are knackering chains and head stock bearings

$hits and giggles.

[BanditPat]

Please answer my question,What purpose does doing wheelies serve?
Unless you are a stunt rider[Is that the right word] you are knackering chains and head stock bearings

There fun, they get you laid and spending money on chains and head stock bearings is fun. I could think of worse things to spend it on

[Swin]

Isn't a wheelie a failure of control? Voluntary or involuntarily?

[hob]

Isn't a wheelie a failure of control? Voluntary or involuntarily?

I think it largely depends what happens after the wheelie tbh.

Legally speaking I guess if you bust a wheelie they can do ya for it :cool:

[sv650jay]

not a wheelie guy myself cant see the point in risking my beloved bike that ive spent so much time and money on, but i have wheelied it a few times when ive been racing my mate on his gixer thou so it will come up off the throttle....

lucky for me my mate cnt ride so i win : )

[vardypeeps]

I like to do very little 1st gear wheelies sometimes.
Instead of doing wheelies do what I do and find a nice jump in the road to hit up that's more fun and not as much damage I'm guessing

[Mej]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZkwSKfXi-8

Nice SVS Wheelie

[gettin2dizzy]

Isn't a wheelie a failure of control? Voluntary or involuntarily?
Erm... nope.

That's a complete failure of fun though.