View Full Version : My day (I crashed a little bit!)
chakraist
20-10-08, 10:37 AM
So I was on a rideout with the Kent Motorcycle Society from uni, we were down at the Pfizer roundabouts being naughty boys and girls. I had the bike cranked over a hell of a lot, lost rear grip, caught it before it highsided me, but as it gripped again it was very wobbly, moved about a lot and turned rather awkwardly to the inside of the roundabout, leaving me almost on the kerb; suffice to say I got the bike slowed down to about 5 mph when it sort of ghostied itself away from me; it landed on my leg, which was lucky as the only damage is a small scuff on the motoslider, a touch-upable scratch on the fairing and the rhs indicator. I felt a bit silly but then I was carrying more corner speed than the majority of people there, one guy came up to me and was like 'I am very embarrassed,' I was like, 'yeah, but you didn't crash!'
Anyways, here's some pictures of me from the day:
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v351/138/76/625447954/n625447954_968730_8567.jpg
http://photos-h.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v351/138/76/625447954/n625447954_968775_8511.jpg
There are more but they're pretty much the same; also it looks like my peg is scraping on one of them?
Warthog
20-10-08, 01:24 PM
Do you have any sliders on?! Looks like you are going to wear a hole in your leathers...
Good pics though, no doubt that you can corner fast!
Yeah sliders would be a good start lol, theres another inch that you dont need to be cranked over for a start lol.
jimmy-james
20-10-08, 02:00 PM
Glad you you are ok mate. Curiously, what tyres are you on as i've been told that those types of angles are impossible unless you are on sticky racing ones? I'm still trying to find my boundarys on my MEZ4's but have no idea because they are impossible to predict. I have Avon Storms coming and i'm hoping all the hype is true. Cool pictures by the way and get yourself some sliders!
So I was on a rideout with the Kent Motorcycle Society from uni, we were down at the Pfizer roundabouts being naughty boys and girls. I had the bike cranked over a hell of a lot, lost rear grip, caught it before it highsided me, but as it gripped again it was very wobbly, moved about a lot and turned rather awkwardly to the inside of the roundabout, leaving me almost on the kerb; suffice to say I got the bike slowed down to about 5 mph when it sort of ghostied itself away from me; it landed on my leg, which was lucky as the only damage is a small scuff on the motoslider, a touch-upable scratch on the fairing and the rhs indicator. I felt a bit silly but then I was carrying more corner speed than the majority of people there, one guy came up to me and was like 'I am very embarrassed,' I was like, 'yeah, but you didn't crash!'
Anyways, here's some pictures of me from the day:
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v351/138/76/625447954/n625447954_968730_8567.jpg
http://photos-h.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v351/138/76/625447954/n625447954_968775_8511.jpg
There are more but they're pretty much the same; also it looks like my peg is scraping on one of them?
How long you been riding to get your knee down that much?
I think I must lean about 5 degress (only passed test 1 week ago), lol :D
chakraist
20-10-08, 02:24 PM
I do have sliders on, lol, well, I lent my left one to a mate as his were worn through. When this photo was taken there's less than a centimetre left on the slider on the right, I then swapped it later for the left hand one when my mate was done. I got maybe a few more degrees out of the bike before the rear went, the front never missed a beat. I've got a Z6 (120/70) on the front and a PR2 on the rear; something I think I'll stick with, very confidence inspiring.
I've been riding almost exactly a year now, although from feb-end of april I was bikeless.
The main reason I dropped it was trying to get my elbow down :( I got pretty close though!
I was riding 3 months until my first touch down lol.....probably would have been sooner but I couldnt afford leather haha
Seriously though you see old men on R1's and blade's going around roundabouts with their knee down, they are wobbly as hell and going really slow.....but it makes for a good photo and thats what counts! isnt it?
If you have been passed a week concentrate on cornering smootly, build up the speed and eventually it will happen....when your ready.
When you go out with the aim to scrape your knee......you try to hard and the result is the reason behind this thread.
jimmy-james
20-10-08, 02:27 PM
I think i will wait for my new tyres before i attemt it as the MEZ4's are rubbish
captainsmelly
20-10-08, 02:30 PM
tried today. almost embarrassed/killed myself
awesome photos anyway
chakraist
20-10-08, 02:32 PM
When you go out with the aim to scrape your knee......you try to hard and the result is the reason behind this thread.
That wasn't the first time I've got my knee down, most times when I was riding I was lifting my knee up so I could get some more lean angle. I wanted to see how far I could lean the bike over so I did, and happened to crash at a very slow speed after I'd almost saved it.
I now know the limits of the bike and there's about £10 worth of damage to it. Now I know the limits of the lean angle I can work on things that would make me quicker on a track like trail braking.
When I was done, my tyres were really hot to touch. Was excellent :D
I think i will wait for my new tyres before i attemt it as the MEZ4's are rubbish
Every tyre is more than capable......even the supposedly rubbish D220's that come standard on the pointy can achieve it without a twitch......
jimmy-james
20-10-08, 02:36 PM
I get paranoid of all the gravel and diesel spilt around here and how the bike will react to hitting it (i live in the sticks). I cant afford to fall off and wreck my bike even though the bike is far more capable than me at the minute.
That wasn't the first time I've got my knee down, most times when I was riding I was lifting my knee up so I could get some more lean angle. I wanted to see how far I could lean the bike over so I did, and happened to crash at a very slow speed after I'd almost saved it.
I now know the limits of the bike and there's about £10 worth of damage to it. Now I know the limits of the lean angle I can work on things that would make me quicker on a track like trail braking.
When I was done, my tyres were really hot to touch. Was excellent :D
Yeah I wasnt specifically refering to your little incident, i remember your post a few weeks ago saying you got your knee down with some practice.
Was more of a general statement trying to put off someone who has been passed a week from trying it lol
I get paranoid of all the gravel and diesel spilt around here and how the bike will react to hitting it (i live in the sticks). I cant afford to fall off and wreck my bike even though the bike is far more capable than me at the minute.
It will loose traction and then regain traction :cool: adds to the fun, just make sure you dont panic (easily said lol)
It will loose traction and then regain traction :cool: adds to the fun, just make sure you dont panic (easily said lol)
Loose and regain traction?
Hit either of those and your down before you know it.
My main issue with trying to get my knee down on the road. Roundabout knee downs don't really get me going.
chakraist
20-10-08, 02:49 PM
Yeah I wasnt specifically refering to your little incident, i remember your post a few weeks ago saying you got your knee down with some practice.
Was more of a general statement trying to put off someone who has been passed a week from trying it lol
Ah I see, apologies :)
Loose and regain traction?
Hit either of those and your down before you know it.
Disagree, I have lost the rear several times.
Once in gravel on the A54, the rear spun up and probably stepped out 1ft. On a wet drain or diesel (didnt stop to look) two weekends ago I did the same. Then on the cat and fiddle the rear bounced in a pothole 4inches off the ground at the macclesfield end and my closest call yet, a big rear slide caused by overbanding at 90+ mph.
Admitedly I have not had the pleasure of the front going properly yet just slight lock ups and one slight occasions where I'm pretty sure my knee kept me up right before ending up in a gravel trap.
Serious lean, serious fun. :cool:
Interceptor
21-10-08, 12:48 PM
Did a similar thing in sunday's Spurn point rideout, on a roundabout leaned in tooo much, right over when the bars did a single twitch, managed not to go down (though god know's how) just on the exit point of the roundabout... looked at the chicken-strip on the Avon Storm back tyre, later on and the visible scuffing was into the STORM lettering!!!......rode a little bit more cautiosly for a while after that, nowt' like having the bars waggin' to cool the blood..............:rolleyes:
I like to play lets get rid of the elephant feet. :cool:
I like to play lets get rid of the elephant feet. :cool:
Elephants feet?
Is this like chicken fajitas taken to the next level? lol
I get paranoid of all the gravel and diesel spilt around here and how the bike will react to hitting it. I cant afford to fall off and wreck my bike even though the bike is far more capable than me at the minute.
Exactly how I feel mate.
jimmy-james
21-10-08, 03:16 PM
Exactly how I feel mate.
Just come back from an outing with the mrs on her bandit and was feeling a bit more brave but there was always a damned can in the way. I'm still not that brave yet:rolleyes:
chris8886
21-10-08, 03:18 PM
Glad you you are ok mate. Curiously, what tyres are you on as i've been told that those types of angles are impossible unless you are on sticky racing ones? I'm still trying to find my boundarys on my MEZ4's but have no idea because they are impossible to predict. I have Avon Storms coming and i'm hoping all the hype is true. Cool pictures by the way and get yourself some sliders!
Exactly how I feel mate.
definatly get rid of the MEZ4's, the handling of my bike changed for the better instantly!!
just build some confidence up on the new tyres for a while and then when the weather gets better in the spring. scout out a nice big roundabout with a good surface that you can see all the way round. wait till it's nice and quiet and see what you can do.
although i would say the best thing would be to go on a track day (the most fun you'll ever have) and while there ask one of the instructors to go out on track with you (usually free). i did this and before i knew it without intending to my knee was scraping around the last few corners of silverstone :D
Just come back from an outing with the mrs on her bandit and was feeling a bit more brave but there was always a damned can in the way. I'm still not that brave yet:rolleyes:
Are you just try to get big lean or scrape your knee?
After reading some of your posts in the 'Filming Thread' I would have thought the type of riding required to do either on the road would be against your morals anyway.
If your bothered about diesel/cars/gravel......then book a cheap trackday and really realise what your bike is capable of.
jimmy-james
21-10-08, 03:30 PM
Are you just try to get big lean or scrape your knee?
After reading some of your posts in the 'Filming Thread' I would have thought the type of riding required to do either on the road would be against your morals anyway.
If your bothered about diesel/cars/gravel......then book a cheap trackday and really realise what your bike is capable of.
I just feel like its a thing i should be able to do although in reality a big lean would surfice most of the time. Track day is he way me thinks. Is there any likleyhood of and org trackday in the future?
Elephants feet?
Is this like chicken fajitas taken to the next level? lol
Next time you look at a Metzler z6, have a look at the outside edge of the tire tread. :)
Just tried to google for a picture but came up blank :confused:
Blue_SV650S
21-10-08, 06:06 PM
{pics}
Getting people taking pic's of you KD ... you tart!! :smt036
looks like a fair bit more lean than your normal roundabout surfer 8) ... bearing in mind the normal ground clearance issues of the SV, have you got a large rear shock and some rearsets? :scratch:
Dave20046
21-10-08, 06:34 PM
So I was on a rideout with the Kent Motorcycle Society from uni, we were down at the Pfizer roundabouts being naughty boys and girls. I had the bike cranked over a hell of a lot, lost rear grip, caught it before it highsided me, but as it gripped again it was very wobbly, moved about a lot and turned rather awkwardly to the inside of the roundabout, leaving me almost on the kerb; suffice to say I got the bike slowed down to about 5 mph when it sort of ghostied itself away from me; it landed on my leg, which was lucky as the only damage is a small scuff on the motoslider, a touch-upable scratch on the fairing and the rhs indicator. I felt a bit silly but then I was carrying more corner speed than the majority of people there, one guy came up to me and was like 'I am very embarrassed,' I was like, 'yeah, but you didn't crash!'
Anyways, here's some pictures of me from the day:
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v351/138/76/625447954/n625447954_968730_8567.jpg
http://photos-h.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v351/138/76/625447954/n625447954_968775_8511.jpg
There are more but they're pretty much the same; also it looks like my peg is scraping on one of them?
looks cool, what kind of speed you doing?
chakraist
21-10-08, 06:59 PM
Getting people taking pic's of you KD ... you tart!! :smt036
looks like a fair bit more lean than your normal roundabout surfer 8) ... bearing in mind the normal ground clearance issues of the SV, have you got a large rear shock and some rearsets? :scratch:
There are pics of loads of people, about 7 bikes out :P
Shock's all the way up; but I do weigh a lot. My pegs are narrower than the OEM ones by about an inch and sort of go pointy at the end, it stops them digging in when they scrape, but I do have a lot of ground clearance it seems!
stuff
I was doing about 45 when I stacked it, probably about 40 there. About 8k rpm in second.
Blue_SV650S
21-10-08, 07:36 PM
There are pics of loads of people, about 7 bikes out :P
Shock's all the way up; but I do weigh a lot. My pegs are narrower than the OEM ones by about an inch and sort of go pointy at the end, it stops them digging in when they scrape, but I do have a lot of ground clearance it seems!
You mean you have a shock with adjustable ride height??!? :scratch: ... or are you talkin' about preload :rolleyes:
An inch off the pegs will give you a fair bit more lean 8)
chakraist
21-10-08, 08:07 PM
You mean you have a shock with adjustable ride height??!? :scratch: ... or are you talkin' about preload :rolleyes:
An inch off the pegs will give you a fair bit more lean 8)
Preload :( But I'd love to get one with adjustable height, plus some sort of damping and compression ability... I'd like to go up an inch or so on the back.
Blue_SV650S
21-10-08, 08:25 PM
Who's the homo behind you in the top pic? ... he looks like he has it 'rit-over' too 8)
chakraist
21-10-08, 08:28 PM
Who's the homo behind you in the top pic? ... he looks like he has it 'rit-over' too 8)
Some dude called pete, he was quicker in the bends than most guys who were there. Apparently overtaking is much more fun than seeing how far over you can get; I was overtaking guys round the outside, was muchos fun.
Blue_SV650S
21-10-08, 08:34 PM
Some dude called pete, he was quicker in the bends than most guys who were there. Apparently overtaking is much more fun than seeing how far over you can get; I was overtaking guys round the outside, was muchos fun.
Got a pic of him in the same spot as you ... I think he'll have more lean than even you! ;)
chakraist
21-10-08, 09:28 PM
http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v351/138/76/625447954/n625447954_968733_9097.jpg
That's him; he was a very good rider IMHO, didn't have leathers though!
This other pic is another one of my mates who is stupidly skilled:
http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v351/138/76/625447954/n625447954_968777_1607.jpg
He mainly does stunt riding lol
Tim in Belgium
21-10-08, 09:39 PM
Some impressive skills on show by some "anonymous" riders there.
Saint Matt
21-10-08, 09:40 PM
I was riding 3 months until my first touch down lol.....probably would have been sooner but I couldnt afford leather haha
Exactly the same with me haha, the day I got my leathers I went out and touched down, felt great :D
When you go out with the aim to scrape your knee......you try to hard and the result is the reason behind this thread.
Agree again, it's very important to not put yourself under pressure to do it imo, I made that mistake and came off myself.
I had a go on the 7R the other day and was told that I'm about an inch off, could probably do it with some roundabout laps but I'm sure it'll come after a while anyway, I'd rather just have a year staying on the thing than chasing stuff like that haha.
Blue_SV650S
22-10-08, 04:28 PM
http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v351/138/76/625447954/n625447954_968733_9097.jpg
Ah ... ok, he looks plops!! - you iz lookin' cooler than him!! :D
As for the GIXER dude ... what a poser!! :riding:
Dave20046
22-10-08, 06:13 PM
Ah ... ok, he looks plops!! - you iz lookin' cooler than him!! :D
As for the GIXER dude ... what a poser!! :riding:
Innit there's obviously no engine breaking in thems.
chakraist
22-10-08, 08:05 PM
Ah ... ok, he looks plops!! - you iz lookin' cooler than him!! :D
As for the GIXER dude ... what a poser!! :riding:
lol :P he's excellent, great laugh in non-biking situations too.
And thank for you for the 'cool' props!
Dave20046
22-10-08, 08:21 PM
Innit there's obviously no engine breaking in thems.
What the hell was I on about. I've ridden for about 3 years and I don't know which is throttle hand, wtf? :clown::confused::clown:
chakraist
22-10-08, 08:33 PM
What the hell was I on about. I've ridden for about 3 years and I don't know which is throttle hand, wtf? :clown::confused::clown:
lol I was wondering about that :P
Blue_SV650S
23-10-08, 05:14 PM
And thank for you for the 'cool' props!
Don't get too excited ... to be fair, he set the bar pretty low . .. . . :D
chakraist
23-10-08, 07:06 PM
Don't get too excited ... to be fair, he set the bar pretty low . .. . . :D
...:(
Blue_SV650S
23-10-08, 07:17 PM
...:(
hehe he stacks them up ... he knocks them down!!! :D
In all seriousness, it looked like you had good lean in the pic, the fact it is on a roundabout discredits any coolness ..
If you want an analogy, its a bit like what masturbation is to sh4gging ;)
Knocking one out might be good practice and kinda fun, but ya mates would be more impressed if you were actually shagging a bird!! :D
Dave20046
23-10-08, 07:20 PM
hehe he stacks them up ... he knocks them down!!! :D
In all seriousness, it looked like you had good lean in the pic, the fact it is on a roundabout discredits any coolness ..
If you want an analogy, its a bit like what masturbation is to sh4gging ;)
Knocking one out might be good practice and kinda fun, but ya mates would be more impressed if you you were actually shagging a bird!! :D
The lord of analogies himself!
chakraist
23-10-08, 07:20 PM
hehe he stacks them up ... he knocks them down!!! :D
In all seriousness, it looked like you had good lean in the pic, the fact it is on a roundabout discredits any coolness ..
If you want an analogy, its a bit like what masturbation is to sh4gging ;)
Knocking one out might be good practice and kinda fun, but ya mates would be more impressed if you you were actually shagging a bird!! :D
OH! So now I'm a virgin too!?
lol
I understand what you mean though; I want to do a trackday. I even have shagged fairings for it! Just need some cash... and maybe a van.
Blue_SV650S
23-10-08, 07:31 PM
The lord of analogies himself!
:takeabow: I do what I can ... I do what I can !! :lol:
OH! So now I'm a virgin too!?
Well ... more that you are a :toss: ... but now we are just splitting pubic hairs!! {ahhh somebody stop me!!} :smt044
chakraist
23-10-08, 07:36 PM
:takeabow: I do what I can ... I do what I can !! :lol:
Well ... more that you are a :toss: ... but now we are just splitting pubic hairs!! {ahhh somebody stop me!!} :smt044
hahaha, oh god. You do crack me up sometimes.
lukemillar
23-10-08, 10:30 PM
The lord of analogies himself!
I like Blue's analogies. Like my suspension guy says about people who study their tyres to try and determine what need changing on the suspension:
"It's a bit like analysing the stains on the sheets rather than concentrating on the act that caused them!"
:lol:
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