It's 12 O'Clock, my third shift today starts now

[plowsie]

So, I started at 8.30 this morning, finished at 5.30, 7 o'clock I went to other work, finished, now starting a security sort of shift for the night back at main work. Woohoo :smt068

Got broken into at the weekend, alarms aren't working properly. So muggins here offered to do a night to look after the place until the morning till 1st person gets here at 8, then go home have a shower then come back here for 9 :D

[chris8886]

So muggins here offered to do a night to look after the place until the morning till 1st person gets here at 8, then go home have a shower then come back here for 9 :D

you muppet!! ;):razz:

[plowsie]

Planning on not sleeping all night. Combination of Xbox, internet and walking the dog around the car park, should work :)

[zsv650]

what you playing on xbox(and thats some damn long hours your working wouldnt fancy doing that all too often)

[FG1]

Ever heard of something called The Working Time Directive.........

Does your employer know what hours you have worked as they too have a legal obligation here.

[plowsie]

Its more of a favour I think, prob get some sort of benefit from it I hope. IE, go home early, let me go to the driving range for the afternoon or something.

[FG1]

SECTION II - MINIMUM REST PERIODS - OTHER ASPECTS OF THE ORGANISATION OF WORKING TIME
Article 3 - Daily rest
Member States shall take the measures necessary to ensure that every worker is entitled to a minimum daily rest period of 11 consecutive hours per 24-hour period.

It may be a favour but it's still illegal. How much of a favour would it be if you were involved in an accident caused by fatigue ??????
I take it there is a "lone worker" (if you are working alone) risk assesment for the job you are doing........

Although things like the working time directive may seem a bit "piccy" by some, it is actually there for the safety and well being of employees.

Also, I can't believe that you are doing this shift without first agreeing to what benefit you are getting for it. Check your forehead for letters......

[plowsie]

Check your forehead for letters......
Begins with M and ends in G.

The work I went to this evening has nothing to do with this job, its a part-time bar job. But yeah I get what your saying Tony.

[Grinch]

Don't do it anymore... it takes ages to sort your self out afterwards...

[plowsie]

I've already stopped feeling tired, 25 hours been up now.

[Dave20046]

I've already stopped feeling tired, 25 hours been up now.
who needs sleep.

[plowsie]

I know.

Suppose I'm starting main work now so this could be classed as my 4th shift :lol:

[Baph]

I've already stopped feeling tired, 25 hours been up now.
It will hit you later!

For NW4, I was awake from 10:30am on the Friday, and worked a night shift. Immediately after the night shift, I went on NW4.

I left the group for NW4 around 3pm ish, and got home just after 5pm. Spent a bit of time with the kids, then went to bed at 9pm (so I'd been awake almost 36hours straight).

Then I was awake by 5:30am to get to work. It wasn't pleasant, but it happens due to our rota.

[Dave20046]

It will hit you later!

For NW4, I was awake from 10:30am on the Friday, and worked a night shift. Immediately after the night shift, I went on NW4.

I left the group for NW4 around 3pm ish, and got home just after 5pm. Spent a bit of time with the kids, then went to bed at 9pm (so I'd been awake almost 36hours straight).

Then I was awake by 5:30am to get to work. It wasn't pleasant, but it happens due to our rota.
Could have been dangerous :(

[plowsie]

Yeah those that have to cope with it with work I totally respect anyway cos I know how tough that can be as I have been there before. Socially, physically and mentally, lack of sleep affects it all.

[dizzyblonde]

silly boy, WRD rules as peeps have said. Also rules in place there for nightshift workers too.

You know I do three 12 hr nightshifts in a row, but, usually on Friday I get up to take son to school, stay up all day, perhaps with an odd hour with one eye open on the sofa, go to work, by 3am one eye open, and its so dangerous to ride home. I've been asleep at the traffic lights before now. By Monday morning i'm shattered and I stay up all day Monday, the bodyclock makes me not want to sleep by mid evening so its 1am before i eventually close my eyes. SO that 24hrs of no sleep at the beginning of work, and something like 31 hrs with no sleep at the end with 36 hrs of work in there too


It'll bite you on the bum eventually, don't make a habit of it, or you'll end up ill and off work like me.

[G]

Not strictly illegal......an employee can opt out of the working time directive.

Stupid/crazy......Probably, its all well and good having the extra bit of money in your pocket until you fall a sleep on your way home.

[timwilky]

Having done a few 36 hour shifts when me working means that a couple of hundred will be able to when I have finished. lessons I have learned.

1) It fooks you up.
2) your no better thought of when it comes to your annual appraisal. Nobody remembers the blinders you have pulled, just where you have screwed up.
3) They expect you to do it again.
4) somebody will say, where where you yesterday and why did you not phone in.


When I have done these sillies. I would normally be issued with one of securities 2 way radios so if I need anything I can quickly get help. Plus they let me know when the Pizza etc arrives.

[the_runt69]

Do like Dizzy once every 6 weeks, get up Wednesday at 8 in the morning, go through the day as normal. Go to work at 07.30, work through till 7 the next morning, after taking the family to work/School home about 9.30, tidy up and get to bed about 11. Finish nights the following Tuesday up at 4 in the afternoon gt home at 7.30 the next morning and go through the day till bedtime at about 11 at night with a quick hour nap on the sofa. You get used to it if you do it normally and I find I miss it if I dont do the night shift and cant sleep.

But if you feel tired make sure you have a cat nap sometime overnight. a quick half hour can work wonders.

[Stig]

I used to work 18 hours a day, 6 days a week and did that for 3 months. In between working I got a couple of hours socializing and courting as well as a main meal and some sleep. On the 7th day I took it easy and only did a 12 hour shift.

Your body adapts to the circumstances you put it in. No big deal really.

[Stu]

I flew home on Sunday night. Plane was delayed and did not land until after 4am instead of 1am. When I was riding home on the M25, ahead I saw 3 cars stopped, 2 were both in lanes 3 and 4 & the 3rd was in lane 5 facing me. I reckon someone amongst that lot was overtired & I'm glad I didn't get caught up in it, I slowed down a lot & went thorugh the middle which probably wasn't the best idea.

[plowsie]

I'm still ere, leaving here and doing another shift at the pub tonight, will finish there at 11 ish. My boss hasn't even said thanks or anything, bit p1ssed off TBH, and I'm knackered. Think I will remind him when I ask for Friday afternoon off to go play golf.

[Stu]

Think I will remind him when I ask for Friday afternoon off to go play golf.
So you got somewhere warm to pass the time while on Xbox & Internet etc. & you expect to get paid for playing golf :shock: you've hardly done him a favour ;)


Just an alternative view - I wouldn't have offered myself & then be begging for favours after.

[plowsie]

So you got somewhere warm to pass the time while on Xbox & Internet etc. & you expect to get paid for playing golf :shock: you've hardly done him a favour ;)
Yeah but I was asked and said okay then yeah, so I'm expecting it to be returned. It was him up here if not me.

[yorkie_chris]

Watch yourself driving home fella

[plowsie]

Woohoo 2 tanks of petrol in the car, that'll do me :) Rather that and play golf Saturday :D

[Ed]

You must be mad. Please don't drive until you've had a good sleep.

[plowsie]

Finished part-time work early last night, 10.15pm I was home. Slept right through till 7.30 :D

[the_runt69]

Now been up for 28 hpours on thefirst night syndrome and am just about to go to bed, will sleep till 5ish then will be set up for the week

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Not strictly illegal......an employee can opt out of the working time directive.

I think that only covers hours per week, as in you can do more than 48 hours in 7 days if you wish. However, that wouldn't abosolve an employer of their legal duty to abide by the hours worked in 24 hours.

[the_runt69]

I think that only covers hours per week, as in you can do more than 48 hours in 7 days if you wish. However, that wouldn't abosolve an employer of their legal duty to abide by the hours worked in 24 hours.

Thats over I think an average of a 19 week period I think youll find

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Thats over I think an average of a 19 week period I think youll find

Whatever. The point is the 11 hours per 24 is, I'm guessing, still valid whether you've signed a waiver form or not.

[the_runt69]

Whatever. The point is the 11 hours per 24 is, I'm guessing, still valid whether you've signed a waiver form or not.

If youve signed the waiver you can do beyond what is said in the euro law.
The waiver only works for shift workers though.

[Biker Biggles]

No matter what waiver you sign-----If you worked an obviously dangerous amount of hours and,say,fell asleep while driving,and,say,caused a big accident and people got killed,you would do serious time in jail,and they would come for the employer too,if they knew what you were doing or should have done.

[dizzyblonde]

according to WTD, you must have an 11 hr period between shifts, no matter what shift that may be. There is another rule about the nightshift that you mustn't do more than an average of 8hrs in a 24 hr period(funny that cause I work 12) but this is calculated over 17 weeks. You can't opt out of the night working limit
So my employer gets away with having us do three 12hr shift over the weekend, but because we do two 12 hr day shifts the weekend after, its all bull. Oh and 6 of the nightshift hrs are on a monday, in the next week....theres always a loophole..pah

There are exceptions to the rules like rail staff for instance

regardlesss all rules and regs are outlined here
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/WorkingHoursAndTimeOff/DG_10029451