Arrrrgggh. Bar End Screw Not Budging

[Mr Speirs]

Anyone got a clever way of getting these off.
Mine is not moving. Tried normal screwdriver. Rachet with Screwdiver bit (broke the screwdriver head). Tried heating it up with a heat shrink gun for a few mins to see if the glue (if theres is some) would melt and loosen. All with no luck.
Can anyone help me?

[Sean_C]

Have you got an impact driver?
If you're not worried about the bar ends, you could use mole grips I guess, to see if that'd budge it.

[plowsie]

Just soak it in WD40 as good as you can, then screw back in then screw loose.

[Sean_C]

Or try penetrating oil.

[Mr Speirs]

Have done the WD40 thing too. :(
Plowsie I can't get the damn thing to move at all let alone be able to screw it in first :)
You know how usually you can turn the bar end round whilst still on the bar well this is solid.

[Spokey]

they are only rubber bungs that the screw go into - just try pulling it out ?
or try and squirt some WD down inside - worth a try

Spokey ( formerly Nana )

[plowsie]

Right Chris, where are ya? Home or work?

[Sean_C]

they are only rubber bungs that the screw go into - just try pulling it out ?
or try and squirt some WD down inside - worth a try

Spokey ( formerly Nana )

:confused:

My curvy clip ons were solid with a threaded hole through them, no rubber I don't think?

[Mr Speirs]

Plowsie im at work. Lots of tools. Fancy a go? :)

[Mr Speirs]

No rubber through mine. The other came off easy peasy and its threaded into the metal.

[plowsie]

Plowsie im at work. Lots of tools. Fancy a go? :)

What time you finish?

Bring what tools you can to mine (work).

[Mr Speirs]

Don't worry dude haha I finish at 6 but gotta go straight home as the missus has had a bad day.
I think i've rended the screw head useless now anyway so might just drill the head off and slide the bar end off. Then attack the remainder of the screw.
What do you guys think?

[Alpinestarhero]

Impact driver and hammer. I had the same problem :D Might mash up the bolt-heads though, so maybe get some new bolts after

[Mr Speirs]

Might aswell just drill them rather than buy an impact driver.
Just wondering if drilling the head off to reveal the rest of the bolt will just make it as hard to get out. My reasoning is I can apply heat or solvent straight to the glue. But then if theres no glue im guna be fubard

[Spokey]

:confused:

My curvy clip ons were solid with a threaded hole through them, no rubber I don't think?

Must be the Pointies only then ... :confused:

[Sean_C]

There might not be glue there mate, just thousands of miles worth of crap and corrossion. Got a dremel? Cut a slot in the bolt head maybe.

Or whack the whole thing with a very big hammer? No? :p

[Dangerous Dave]

Must be the Pointies only then ... :confused:
Correct, Curvy S's bar ends bolt straight into the end of the clip-on....

[northwind]

Must be the Pointies only then ... :confused:

Yup

[hovis]

get a rag around it, then some molegrips, and just spin it a bit, then try it

[NedSVS]

I do a similar trick to Hovis with the molegrips, but use a thick piece of leather (old belt) which grips the bar end very well whilst preventing you scratching it. Once you've just got it moving you can revert to a screwdriver.

[Mr Speirs]

Tried the mole grip thing. Used the rubber matting stuff and a maaaaaaahhosssive pair of grips and nowt. Would not budge.

[Dangerous Dave]

Tried the mole grip thing. Used the rubber matting stuff and a maaaaaaahhosssive pair of grips and nowt. Would not budge.
You tried the mole grips on the actual bar end weight???

[Mr Speirs]

Yup.

[Dangerous Dave]

If you are trying to remove it from the Curvy in your avatar then you will get no where doing that, the screw and weight are not connected like they are on Pointys or nakeds. The bar end will simply pivot around and around....

You need to remove the screw.

[Dangerous Dave]

Curvy faired SV's bolt straight on to the end of the clip-on...

http://www.inter-bike.co.uk/inter-bikeshop/admin/images/accessories/EBBY1.jpghttp://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-bar-end-weights-hand-guards/replacement-bar-end-weight-620.jpg

Pointy SV's and naked Curvy's use the rubber bung method, which you can pull out with mole grips....

http://www.inter-bike.co.uk/inter-bikeshop/admin/images/accessories/unibarend.jpg

[Mr Speirs]

I realise that I need to remove the screw but thought if I could turn the bar end the same direction that the screw is removed that it would just loosen it a bit. When I say that nothing would budge I mean that even the bar end did not pivot around it stayed exactly where it is.

[Dangerous Dave]

Heres a good pic to explain....

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ms2V1WnhL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

[Dangerous Dave]

I realise that I need to remove the screw but thought if I could turn the bar end the same direction that the screw is removed.
No, the screw does not thread into the bar end it is pressed againt the clip-on by the screw.... The screw and bar end are not locked/attached to each other.

[Sean_C]

Drilling it out is the best option by the sounds of things. Drill the head off if you can, pull the bar end off, and use some grips to get the bolt out, or notch it and use a screw driver ;)

[Mr Speirs]

I already have the left bar end off so know how they are fixed to the bike just the right one is being an absolute bugger.

[Dangerous Dave]

Remove the screw, its the only way as the bar end is like a big washer.

[northwind]

The screw and bar end are not locked/attached to each other.

Except by friction and pressure, which can be enough- I removed mine this way. It can work.

[Mr Speirs]

Thats what I was banking on but it didn't budge!!!

[svdemon]

Sell it and buy a pointy

[Mr Speirs]

Helpful :)

[svdemon]

Just jesting fella! You could try drilling into the screw head and inserting a screw extractor in and turning that, they've worked wonders for me in the past

[Sean_C]

Fitting hotgrips or something mate?

[Mr Speirs]

That's the plan.

[Sean_C]

Good luck, sounds like you need it :(

[Mr Speirs]

Come up with a new plan. Drill the head to free the bar end. Bend the remaining part of the screw enough to be able to get some leverage on it using small hollow bit of metal.

[Dangerous Dave]

Good plan

[northwind]

Have you considered dynamite?

[Dangerous Dave]

Have you considered dynamite?
Want some?

[northwind]

Is that a trick question?

[Dangerous Dave]

Is that a trick question?
How do you mean? Well, I can get some C4.

[Mr Speirs]

Mmm ill try the bending of the bolt first but if that fails ill take some C4.

Its ridiculous ain't it? I mean its just a screw!!!

[Sean_C]

How do you mean? Well, I can get some C4.

Probably best to leave it until after your assessment eh? :smt059

[Dangerous Dave]

Its ridiculous ain't it? I mean its just a screw!!!
I know, motorcycles can be very frustrating at times!


Probably best to leave it until after your assessment eh? :smt059
Good idea, but it is hard work being sane!

[Sean_C]

Tell me about it..
I don't usually care, but I have an interview tomorrow, so I'd like to put a good image across.. :rolleyes:

[northwind]

Hey, it's an aluminium bar isn't it. So maybe just pounding on teh head of the screw could slacken the thread a little?

[shonadoll]

We had to drill mine out, made of cheese they are.

[Sean_C]

I have Hardened steel ones in there now. Purely cos they're black, otherwise I'd have stainless, but black match the mirrors :cool:

[Paul the 6th]

when i replaced my bar ends, I started trying to unscrew the screw which seemed to hold them on. After about 10 mins of head scratching, I tried unscrewing the entire bar end piece with my hand & it came straight off... Not sure if you're trying to get the screw out to screw a new bar end unit in or something but have you tried this maybe?

[Mr Speirs]

Sucess!!!! God i am relieved. Cheers to all the help. In the end Drilled the screw head off and released the bar end. Then bent the remainder of the screw to be able to get enough leverage to unscrew it. And it worked!!!
Cheers Paul but as I have learnt from DD the bar end on curvys are different to the Pointys.

[Sean_C]

glad you got it off. I was going to suggest heated gloves instead :p

[Dangerous Dave]

Sucess!!!! God i am relieved.
Well done mate.....

[hovis]

yay, goooooooooooo britany

[skyline]

Sorry to bring this up again...8-[

I've got my bar end screws stuck as well and looks like I'll have to drill the head off as well...

But I'm worried about bending the screw to get the rest of it out. Would mole grips on the remains of the screw head be any good to do instead?

Bloody screws...:smt093

Cheers loads everyone :)

[Mr Speirs]

You won't get the leverage on the screw with mole grips. They will just spin round the screw.
Heres what I did:

Drill head off and slip the bar end off.

You will now need a hollow piece of metal. I used the handle from a hydraulic car jack.
I bent the remainder of the screw to about 30 degrees from straight and was able to unscrew it.

Just bend slowly and only bend just enough so that you get a workable angle.
It'll be fine.

[skyline]

Right, will have a crack at this tomorrow...

Cheers loads for the quick reply! :D

[maviczap]

I'm a bit late to say drill the head off too, but I had to in the end, after I'd buggered up the screw too!
Lack of grease on assembly in the factory, plus wrong combination of metals between the screw and the handlebar, some kind of electrolitic action there.

Strangely only one of mine was stuck, throttle side was impossible to budge using normal methods

[Girth]

I dont know if you have tried this but mine was a bit stubborn and i twisted it by hand at the same time as i was un screw it?

[Mr Speirs]

I tried that method Girth. But for some reason they have a habit of really being stuck.

I couldn't even move the bar end with my hands. I then tried wrapping the bar end in that rubbery mat stuff and using the biggest set of grips you'll ever see and it wouldn't budge.

[Ginger 1]

Had to drill out!! Blo*dy F**king Bas*tard thing!!! caused me more hassle than any other bolt in my life wish I hadn't Started!!!!

[Grant66]

get a set of these for xmas.

http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-Axminster-Cobalt-Drill-and-Easy-Out-Set-462398.htm

lots easier than drilling heads off.