Help stopping a dog chewing stuff?

[krhall]

How do I? The bloody dog has chewed a pait of running shoes, a pair of boots and a carpet!

[Ed]

Muzzle?

[krhall]

how would it eat or drink when we were out though?

[plowsie]

Get another dog to p*ss on them! (He'll just **** on them then)
Coat a pair that you don't want in chilli powder or smother chillies over them, he'll soon get the idea.
Put one of them cones over his head.

[shifter]

club him with a bass ball bat?
Hey I'm just kiding man

[tigersaw]

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[jimmy__riddle]

chewing stuff is normally one of two things

1) they are bored. hide food in random places, give them plenty of toys etc

2) they like chewing your stuff!

you could try restricting where they are allowed in the house while you are out, so they dont have access to as many damagabe things.

Also you can buy stuff called citronella, never used it myself but it is citrus based and you can spray it on stuff and they hate the taste of it so supposedly leave it alone.

[Dappa D]

is it a pup or a muture dog?...if its a pup..training/discipline in time should do the trick, give him/her their own toys/things to chew and keep them in their basket so they know its theirs and play with the dog using the chewable toys and a little tap on the nose and Firm NO when it chews things its not supposed to...

im no expert but thats how i stopped mine when i was younger..few weeks and it was sorted..but he was a pup and a good bread to train.

or put the shoes in a cupboard and redo the whole house in laminate flooring? :-)

[the_lone_wolf]

if its a pup..training/discipline in time should do the trick

he racks a disaprin...

[jumjum_0214]

you can get some stuff called bitter bite which tastes like crap.

However you cant cover your whole house in it!!!!

He probably needs more exercise to tire him out. Have you thought about using a crate to keep him secure?

[dizzyblonde]

How do I? The bloody dog has chewed a pait of running shoes, a pair of boots and a carpet!

Is it a baby? Rest assured it will eat your skirting boards before you csan stop it,,,,lol. Mine did several times, when I was trying to sell my house last year...little toad. Letsjust say the one in the kitchen is loaded with filler:o. I got mine some heavy duty rubber toys first, then when he was old enough and had gotten over the dominance over sharing things, we started giving him those marrowbones that you get in Asda...you know the ones thatare white with the filling. Worked a treat, they find them more interesting than doorframes.

Also Bob had to have his own crate. Gave him a sense of his own space. He wasn't particularly easy to potty train, and after wetting his bed a couple of times he soon got the message:smt115, the dog crate also helped stop him chewing stuff, and ultimately saced the rest of my couch being eaten in the night, cause he was in his own cell......

[yorkie_chris]

The dogs bored

[Dangerous Dave]

The dogs bored
+ 1

With the Dane as a puppy he would start chewing corners off of cabinets/walls and chair/table legs, a top tip for this if it ever happens is to smear a little tabasco source on them.

[alan pasfield]

two things put a bullet in its head or hit it with a shovel then bury it my little jack russel does the same thought of a musle but it wouldnt be log befour he gets that off as the little sh1te is opening the washing machine and the dryer and pullig all the clothes out clean and dirty next step the bullet

[Sosha]

The joys of Puppy ownership..... Get him some more interesting things to chew and build a shoe cupboard.

Office lurcher's eaten her way through a few chairs and left the odd toothmark in the wall. She grew out of it.

[muffles]

:smt043

It's like reading a story, your thread titles:

"Shall I get a dog?"
"I'm getting a dog!"
"Pictures of Bob the dog"
"Bob the dog is chewing my shoes!"

etc etc :p

[Gene genie]

try feeding the poor bugger!!!!:D

[Dappa D]

he racks a disaprin...

you what? lol:confused::D

[missyburd]

Also you can buy stuff called citronella, never used it myself but it is citrus based and you can spray it on stuff and they hate the taste of it so supposedly leave it alone.

Anything lemon based is good, cats and dogs hate it for some reason. Unless you've got an awkward dog who actually loves the stuff but I believe they're quite rare :D

[MoDaddy]

Have you thought about using a crate to keep him secure?

Although this may sound brutish, dogs are natuarlly 'denning' animals.
They absolutely love having their own safe and secure MySpace; four walls and latch notwithstanding.
We crated our house-dog for years. We'd come home from work, open the crate door, she'd have dinner and go back in on her own.

[shonadoll]

Don't leave a dog alone with a muzzle, it's not safe. Use a crate, or buy a kong (toy you can fill with food) from your vet/petshop.

You can use that bitterbite stuff, but distraction is the best cure.

[northwind]

How do I?

One really good right hook.

[dizzyblonde]

Don't leave a dog alone with a muzzle, it's not safe. Use a crate, or buy a kong (toy you can fill with food) from your vet/petshop.

You can use that bitterbite stuff, but distraction is the best cure.

+1, as i said earlier. Although we did have to cable tie all the sides of Bobs crate together because he had a habit of headbutting his way out:rolleyes:
Patient Discipline is the way, and not in a nasty way. Be firm, if you see him chew something, a firm 'NO' is the key and when he leaves it alone, reward him. Sometimes spraying a little water from a small pistol helps, but then I had to take drastic action and use the borstal 'rattle bottle'

[timwilky]

feed it a cat. Once it has got the taste it will only want to eat them fresh and stop eating anything else

[dizzyblonde]

feed it a cat.

nope don't work, if you already have cats, some dogs decide trying to hump the cats head is a source of amusement..and thats just the females!

[Dangerous Dave]

feed it a cat.
The miss' Golden Retriever....

http://forums.sv650.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=2694&stc=1&d=1225916227







...its a rabbit actually, a wild one not a pet (well former pet).

[krhall]

:smt043

It's like reading a story, your thread titles:

"Shall I get a dog?"
"I'm getting a dog!"
"Pictures of Bob the dog"
"Bob the dog is chewing my shoes!"

etc etc :p

What would I do without this forum eh? and what would you do without being able to read about my gaff being chewed to bits..........

try feeding the poor bugger!!!!:D

I'm thinking feeding it the wife and kids at the moment, they were the buggers that wanted him!!!

What is a dog crate then?

I've just taken the sod out for a 2 mile run in 14.5 mins, yet he still wasn't knackered, where-as I can barely walk!

[missyburd]

What is a dog crate then?



One of these, big wire mesh cage thing, they come in different sizes. When I worked in a petshop they used to be about £40-70. Can no doubt get them cheaper though.

http://www.bowhouse.com.au/UserFiles/2415-Files/Image/DogCrate.jpg

[dizzyblonde]

you can buy dog crates from Argos, or pets at home. I've got a quite large one as Bob is crossed with a giraffe.

What sorta dog have you got??
http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?go.x=4&jspStoreDir=argos&catalogId=651&referredURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.argos.co.uk%2Fwebapp% 2Fwcs%2Fstores%2Fservlet%2FSearch%3FstoreId%3D1000 1&cmpid=COJUN&langId=-1&searchTerms=870%2F5455&referrer=COJUN&storeId=10001&go.y=11


link. hope it works. even has a doggie too...lol

[missyburd]

What sorta dog have you got??

Tis the lab from the other thread I believe?

[Samnooshka]

Muzzle?

errr... no! dogs should never wear muzzles unattended!

pm me if you need any advice ;)

[dizzyblonde]

Tis the lab from the other thread I believe?

didn't see the other thread

[Lozzo]

How do I? The bloody dog has chewed a pait of running shoes, a pair of boots and a carpet!


12 bore.

[krhall]

Doesn't seem very friendly to put him in a cage - he is alone from 8:30 to 3:00. He does get plenty of exercise though. Walk at 6am then one at 8am, then from 3pm - 4pm and then I usually take him for a decent walk at 10pm.

[krhall]

One thing that spring to mind is that he is not allowed to play rough, trying to shake a toy out of his mouth etc. I think he was used to this with his previous owner.

I don't have any issue with it but Mrs H was worried he would do it with the kids, who may be a bit scared.

[shonadoll]

Depends how bad the chewing is - my dog nearly chewed through a live cable, so it's safer too, especially if they are young and will grow out of it hopefully.

You could leave him confined to one room but again the boredom thing - those treat balls are good, they have to work out how to get the food out, makes them think and keeps them occupied. He's alone for 6 hours so it's likely he will become bored and chew if he has no distractions like you guys.

[punyXpress]

Doesn't seem very friendly to put him in a cage - he is alone from 8:30 to 3:00. He does get plenty of exercise though. Walk at 6am then one at 8am, then from 3pm - 4pm and then I usually take him for a decent walk at 10pm.
Whatever you do...
Do NOT feel sorry for him!
As for boredom: Buy him an SV - it seems to keep half the mutts on here amused for months

[dizzyblonde]

Doesn't seem very friendly to put him in a cage - he is alone from 8:30 to 3:00. He does get plenty of exercise though. Walk at 6am then one at 8am, then from 3pm - 4pm and then I usually take him for a decent walk at 10pm.

its not all about being friendly...how olds this dog? Its more difficult for an older dog to get used to it...remember your not putting a human in the crate, its a dog! Dogs don't mind crates, like I've said before it gives them a sense of their own space and their place in the pecking order. Mine sleep under the stairs, I took the door off and put a dog gate up, they always sleep there, even with the gate open, they know where their beds are

One thing that spring to mind is that he is not allowed to play rough, trying to shake a toy out of his mouth etc. I think he was used to this with his previous owner.

I don't have any issue with it but Mrs H was worried he would do it with the kids, who may be a bit scared.

Playing rough and 'tug' can promote dominance and can sometimes be an issue, especially with kids being around. Neither of my dogs are allowed to play tug, if they start tugging they get told to 'leave' and we don't play anymore, we play fetch instead...much more fun, they like playing that game because chase is never ending to a dog

[Samnooshka]

Playing rough and 'tug' can promote dominance and can sometimes be an issue, especially with kids being around. Neither of my dogs are allowed to play tug, if they start tugging they get told to 'leave' and we don't play anymore, we play fetch instead...much more fun, they like playing that game because chase is never ending to a dog


As long you have the "leave it" command and the dog knows this then playing tug can be quite fun... but i NEVER lose, as soon as i feel the game is getting too much, i say leave and they let go, get loads of praise then we carry on with the game. Its all about commands and control, but i wouldn't advise children play tug with a dog. My dogs will not fetch, it just isn't in their nature. Its always good to find something your dog enjoys doing. Lupo loved playing rough and tug, Mina likes chasing squeeky balls... although she never brings them back!

[dizzyblonde]

I had a Basset years ago and we had to get a dog trainer in, as he was already 3 yrs old and had picked up bad habits, we were advised that tug for that dog was not a good game to play, I've always applied this rule to my two now, as we've had lots of dominance issues with the pair of them. Although just because it applies for us doesn't nessecarily mean it applies to all dogs.

Bob likes playing football, literally which usually ends up in fetch, but you let him tug and he'll pull your shoulders off, its why we make him 'leave'. he knows not to tug with us, although he does like tugging on Honeys ears an neck to get her to play, which usually results in the pair of em rolling each other all over the garden, both submitting to the other :-)

[missyburd]

Here DB, this has the info towards the end http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=120136

[yorkie_chris]

We used to play tug and wrestle with dog all the time, never had any aggression issues. But at same time we would feed him into his bowl, and take bowl off him occasionally to show who's boss of food. Then again he always was a soft sod.

[Dangerous Dave]

We used to play tug and wrestle with dog all the time, never had any aggression issues.
Aye, but like all animals some have different temperaments

But at same time we would feed him into his bowl, and take bowl off him occasionally to show who's boss of food.
+ 1, it works.

I wouldn't leave him in a cage all day if nobody is gonna be home, it just stores up the mischief and energy. You need to try and keep him occupied so that he doesn't get bored and start chewing the house up.

[plowsie]

:smt043

It's like reading a story, your thread titles:

"Shall I get a dog?"
"I'm getting a dog!"
"Pictures of Bob the dog"
"Bob the dog is chewing my shoes!"

etc etc :p
Continued with;

"Bob the dog is coming on my bike in a top box"

:D

[Gazza77]

Continued with;

"Bob the dog is coming on my bike in a top box"

:D

Neutering is probably the solution to that problem. :rolleyes::p

[dizzyblonde]

Continued with;

"Bob the dog is coming on my bike in a top box"

:D

eerr BoB the dog wouldn't fit in a topbox..hes huuuuuuuge

[stevie]

Get him loads of hide chewie bones, and activity toys of the sort that you put dried food type treats in. Also if you intend using a crate I'd be inclined to seek professional advice as not training the dog correctly to use the crate will cause more problems.[-o<

[plowsie]

eerr BoB the dog wouldn't fit in a topbox..hes huuuuuuuge
Your just not trying hard enough!

[dizzyblonde]

think of a dog greyhound height, crossed with the brawn of a staff...no go in a top box, unless you chopped his legs off

[krhall]

Just ordered a sidecar for the CBR-rr and have a vacancy coming up on helpdesk so he will be waged and able to pay his own way and also keep him busy.

[cuffy]

+ 1

With the Dane as a puppy he would start chewing corners off of cabinets/walls and chair/table legs, a top tip for this if it ever happens is to smear a little tabasco source on them.
+1 for the tabasco, however my brothers dog took a liking too it and ate the skirting boards.
Lemon juice is also a good detterent iirc.

[martianskippy]

+1 for the tabasco, however my brothers dog took a liking too it and ate the skirting boards.
Lemon juice is also a good detterent iirc.

I found that any deodorant works - my dachshund would not even enter a room if I sprayed 4'' line around in front of the doorway..

Mind you, silly sod's nose is only about 2 inches from the ground at most times ;-) so don't know how it's gonna work with a werewolf type mut lol

[custard]

olbas oil works well on lunatic spaniels that try to chew shoes when on peoples feet...

[600+]

buy a crate and keep the dog in that when you are away, it's not cruel!! my dog - while we are away - sleeps in his bed!! the whole time!!!......I know cause I'm watching him ;)

buy a crate and make your life easier and enjoy dog owning your way!! not the dogs way

[Devil Biccy]

buy a crate and keep the dog in that when you are away, it's not cruel!! my dog - while we are away - sleeps in his bed!! the whole time!!!......I know cause I'm watching him ;)

buy a crate and make your life easier and enjoy dog owning your way!! not the dogs way

Agree with what's been said about crates, May Labrador "Bob" chewed his way through a few slippers and the odd hairbrush as a puppy but we bought him some Rawhide sticks ( Chewdles) which he got during the day when we left him in the house and then at night before bedtime that seemed to do the trick. Hes never chweed any slippers or skirting board since.

[Paul the 6th]

so you bought a dog in the end then?

[Paul the 6th]

just remembered:

you can get these chew toys called "kong" where it's like a rubber pellet (in various sizes from creme egg upto a small easter egg) with a hole in the top & bottom. You can fill it with food and leave them to play for hours. Our dog worked out that she could get the food by dropping it down the back garden step about 20 times. Lazy dog... Mind you, she's one of them border collie crossed with a retreiver types = brains bigger than me

[missyburd]

just remembered:

you can get these chew toys called "kong" where it's like a rubber pellet (in various sizes from creme egg upto a small easter egg) with a hole in the top & bottom.

they're really good, the RSPCA use tons of those for the dogs in their kennels :cool:

[shonadoll]

just remembered:

you can get these chew toys called "kong" where it's like a rubber pellet (in various sizes from creme egg upto a small easter egg) with a hole in the top & bottom. You can fill it with food and leave them to play for hours. Our dog worked out that she could get the food by dropping it down the back garden step about 20 times. Lazy dog... Mind you, she's one of them border collie crossed with a retreiver types = brains bigger than me

They are fab things, can also go in dishwasher and if you get the black ones, are guaranteed non chewable.

[Paul the 6th]

http://www.kongcompany.com/worlds_best.html

http://www.petsathome.com/find/brand-is-kong - order online here :)

[krhall]

After a few recommendations for a kong, we purchased one and some rawhide bits and pieces and hopefully things will settle down a bit now.

Wait for the next thread now............

Thanks all.

[rigor]

They are fab things, can also go in dishwasher and if you get the black ones, are guaranteed non chewable.

The black one's claim that they are very strong, but they don't go quite as far as guaranteeing that they are non chewable. One of my mum's Golden Retrievers will dispatch a Large Black Kong in 10 minutes (no piece larger than an inch). But she's nuts. She can't have them any more due to the possibility of choking.

[missyburd]

One of my mum's Golden Retrievers will dispatch a Large Black Kong in 10 minutes (no piece larger than an inch). .
Wow that's impressive. I almost want to get one for my Alsatian to see if he can beat that time :lol: Don't think he'd be that bothered by it, id have to "explain" he was supposed to get the food out of the middle a few times. Tis like that with crisp packets, I sometimes let him have them when I've finished with them, leaving a few crumbs in the bottom, he loves ripping them up!

[Bibio]

leave a radio or the telly on when you go out.

[Paul the 6th]

give him a magazine or a book to read maybe. Or show him how to use facebook?

all jokes asside, my missus has started nagging for a dog since we've got our own place. We can barely afford to splash out on little luxuries (apart from the odd set of uprated springs or a gsxr shock every now and again) but the cost of a dog would be massive. And the other thing is the time - through the week, a dog would be in the house on its own from 8:30 till about 12:30. For a puppy, that's too long and it would definitely eat the tv remots and skirting boards.

Are there any substitutes for a dog?

[yorkie_chris]

the odd set of uprated springs or a gsxr shock every now and again)

Maybe even fit them? :-P

[dizzyblonde]

all jokes asside, my missus has started nagging for a dog since we've got our own place. Are there any substitutes for a dog?


As I see it perhaps your missus is secretly substituting the ideas of family life and a football team with the idea of a dog...shes on the nest building thing!
If this were true, perhaps this is why I have 2 cats and 2 dogs...and only one kid.....I'm not allowed anymore kids:(

[yorkie_chris]

For f##ks sake get her a dog. Be a sight cheaper than kids

[krhall]

all jokes asside, my missus has started nagging for a dog since we've got our own place. We can barely afford to splash out on little luxuries (apart from the odd set of uprated springs or a gsxr shock every now and again) but the cost of a dog would be massive. And the other thing is the time - through the week, a dog would be in the house on its own from 8:30 till about 12:30. For a puppy, that's too long and it would definitely eat the tv remots and skirting boards.

Are there any substitutes for a dog?

I didn't pay for my dog (puppy) as it was going to go to the RSPCA if I didn't step in. Admitedly we have spent about £100 getting some nice stuff for it and a check-up at the vets and Flea and worming.

As he was 9 months old he was already toilet trained so other than a few accidents early on all was good.

Not for the house proud though I would say - we're not particularly, it is clean and tidy, but other than my bike we are not materialistic and would prefer to be out than in.

I looked at retired greyhounds as they are cheap/free and apparently very loving, good natured and lazy (yep that's right - they are short burst dogs) so would be happy to sleep all day. There are loads of places that have them.

BEWARE: Any brownie points you think you may earn wear off very quick, so do any promises she may make about it. So you will find yourself standing in a pitch black field at 10:30pm with said dog, long after the appreciation has gone.

We haven't had Monty 2 weeks yet and he has settled in and I am now in the dog house again.........

[dizzyblonde]

I looked at retired greyhounds as they are cheap/free and apparently very loving, good natured and lazy (yep that's right - they are short burst dogs) so would be happy to sleep all day. There are loads of places that have them.



Greyhounds are indeed good natured dogs, and yes very lazy..lol. My good friend and sons godfather has five of them! They are similar to cats in the way of food, sleep, walk(short and sweet), sleep, sleep some more, food..lol
They hate rain too. The thing about greyhounds though is that a lot of them have been severely mistreated, some of them come with mental bagage, and you have to spend a long time coaxing out their personality, and spend a lot of effort getting them into any sort of good condition. Jack and Daisy the original 2 that my friend had years ago, were thrown out on the M62. Jack was an ex racer for defo, as his tattoos were traced back to where he came from. He was also scared to death of balloons and once saw a bunch in a window and my friend spent two hours chasing him around Todmorden, as he was frightened to death
I would be best suited to have greyhounds, but I'll have to wait until Honey has gone and the two cats, its very rare to have a cat friendly one, unless they are pups. All of my friends greyhounds came from Tia Greyhound Rescue, they have hundreds of them waiting desperatly for a good home, they indeed make a good family pet and wil be very loyal. They are quiet most of the time but have loopy moments. if anyone ever wants any info about Tia (which is in HX) I'd gladly point them in the right direction

[krhall]

The thing about greyhounds though is that a lot of them have been severely mistreated, some of them come with mental bagage, and you have to spend a long time coaxing out their personality, and spend a lot of effort getting them into any sort of good condition.

Most of the websites I read said the opposite of that, bascially saying that it is counterproductive to mistreat a greyhound you want to run fast for you. So contrarary to common belief they are actually treated quite well.

http://www.adopt-a-greyhound.org/about/about.html

http://www.retiredgreyhounds.co.uk/index.asp?pageid=36

http://www.greyhoundrescue.co.uk/Greyhound%20Welfare.htm

[Paul the 6th]

For f##ks sake get her a dog. Be a sight cheaper than kids

Is that "For the sake of my forks"? Still need to find time to get them fitted to be honest matey. She's said she's broody at the moment and a dog could well sort it, but I'm not playin...

Looks like it could be next week before I even get chance to look at maybe heading over your way YC :( the estate agents are still holding my bond as well. They said the garden would need a bit of tidying up and that their approved gardener is "Very reasonable". The stupid bitch emailed me yesterday saying it would be £90 for the front and back gardens tidying. I mowed them every 3-4 weeks and only had one little bbq - so there's no mess. They couldnt find anything wrong with the house so I think this is where they're trying to fleece some money.

So. No dog. No bond. No new front forks yet.

****.

[yorkie_chris]

What a bunch of w4nkers. Tempted to set the place afire after you get bond back? :-P

[dizzyblonde]

Most of the websites I read said the opposite of that, bascially saying that it is counterproductive to mistreat a greyhound you want to run fast for you. So contrarary to common belief they are actually treated quite well.

http://www.adopt-a-greyhound.org/about/about.html

http://www.retiredgreyhounds.co.uk/index.asp?pageid=36

http://www.greyhoundrescue.co.uk/Greyhound%20Welfare.htm

well obviously they are treated well when they are raking in money, but when they are surplus to requirement after they can't run fast enough, or even never will run fast enough as youngsters...its then that they are mistreated. I've been very close to the truth so unfortunately I've seen the states that these dogs come into the rescue centres like. Would you still say that they were treated well if you knew that on occasions bad owners try cutting off a dogs ears to remove their racing tattoos and leve then to die lying at the side of a motorway?
Believe me, rescue centres for greyhounds have a huge job on their hands trying to rehome thousands of unwanted greyhounds, they have the hard job of rehabilitating sick and injured dogs, abused dogs etc. The last greyhound my friend got from Tia was 'Nel' it took him about six months to get her into the condition that the rest of the brood were in, as well as pull her out of her shell, she used to hide in the other room when we went in, whilst the rest of them jumped about glad to see us. Garys had a few like it too, bearing in mind that hes worked closly with Tia for many years and has fostered dogs as well as adopt them as his own
I've seen it first hand, i don't read it off a website, but as a reflection heres the wall of shame from Tia, ok some of the dogs come in fair condition, but read it and you can also se the amount that do not, also note the amount that are 'stray'

http://www.tiagreyhounds.org.uk/wall.htm

[krhall]

:smt043

It's like reading a story, your thread titles:

"Shall I get a dog?"
"I'm getting a dog!"
"Pictures of Bob the dog"
"Bob the dog is chewing my shoes!"

etc etc :p

Can I have a new thread title "Bob the dog is ruining my life!"

[Dangerous Dave]

Can I have a new thread title "Bob the dog is ruining my life!"
Ha, ha... having more troubles?

[-Ralph-]

I didn't pay for my dog (puppy)..... As he was 9 months old

Keep anything he could destroy out of his reach and give him loads of toys/bones to chew. If he's on his own all day the chewing could be boredom, so try and get home at lunchtime to walk him, but it could also just be his age and he'll grow out of it.

[dizzyblonde]

your hair will turn grey and you'll be at your wits end. Pups are worse than kids, until they turn around 18 months, then its calming down til 2 yr old when they mature. Keep up with the discipline and chew toys. i found the bones from Asda with the marrow bone packed in them work a treat and even after many months of being thrown about they go back to them time after time

My Bob the dog was threatened with being sent to doggie jail more often than not. Now hes fine

[krhall]

It just doesn't suit me, there is hair everywhere. We now hoover everyday and often twice a day, yet hair gets everywhere.

I never keep clean clothes on too long before I either have to get changed to take the dog out for a walk etc.

I have to get up earlier than required so he can have a reasonable walk in the morning, especially as he whimpers and crys.......a few months ago it wasn't really an issue as the kids were always up before 6-6:30, but in the last month they have been laying in until 7:30, which would be a real treat every now and again, but the dog means it is not.

I'm just not getting anything from the dog I thought I might.........

[Foxy]

I have to get up earlier than required so he can have a reasonable walk in the morning, especially as he whimpers and crys.......a few months ago it wasn't really an issue as the kids were always up before 6-6:30, but in the last month they have been laying in until 7:30, which would be a real treat every now and again, but the dog means it is not.

I'm just not getting anything from the dog I thought I might.........

Why don't you take your dog running with you? :-D

[krhall]

I do that sometimes, if it is light enough, then I take him to the woods and let him off the lead and he is a good partner, but on the lead he's a nightmare.

So until it gets lighter it's only on early shoots.

[Paul the 6th]

if he's tugging whilst on the lead, have you thought about trying a harness? It distributes the tension of the lead around the chest/shoulders rather than on a single point at the neck, so they tend to pull less.

My parents have a border collie cross with a retreiver who used to pull like a 4 wheel drive constantly. They eventually got one of those face muzzle type ones which stopped her pulling but she HATED it and always rubbed her face on the floor to try get it off... I saw one of these body harness type leads and we tried her with it - she seems to like it and doesnt pull half as much :)