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as said.. please give a little, if asked..
Cheers....
Richie.
mister c
09-11-08, 07:16 AM
Amtraining today, but if I remember we will stop for a couple of mins.
rick0361
09-11-08, 08:36 AM
It is good for a younger generation to remember all our servicemen and women who have given their lives in all the conflicts and to give a little to help those who gave so bravely.
I told my little boy that the poppy is to remember the old soldiers when he asked . He solemnly repeated this to the old gent who was selling poppies in the Asda in Halifax who seemed quite moved by the sentiment coming from someone so young
Interceptor
09-11-08, 08:43 AM
Just off to collect my 80 year old mother, to attend the rememberance service parade in Batley (West Yorkshire), go every year whatever weather..... hope to continue doing the same for many years to come.....
"They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old.
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them."
jimmy-james
09-11-08, 09:34 AM
I'm in the ops oom today and so far 3 Coastguard teams are attending rememberance services plus a few Lifeboats.
tanis34
09-11-08, 11:00 AM
http://homepages.tesco.net/~derek.berger/holidays/remembrancebutton.gif
LET US PRAY -
- We remember Lord, we remember: we remember ships tossed in the air by explosions, we remember men, our friends, falling beside us.... we remember telegrams coming to the doors of our neighbours, husbands taken from our arms never to return; sons whom we feared for every day. We remember a lot, we remember....
- Loving Father - help us in our memories - ease us in the pain of them, without causing us to forget.
- Lord God - we remember the costs, remind us too of the victory - of what was won by our comrades and by fellow countrymen; - And finally Lord God - be with all those who are facing war this day - our men and woman at sea and on land and in the air in the mid-east; and be with the rulers of this world and all the world's citizens, that we may learn and live the way of peace with justice, - AMEN
Just followed the TA, Army Cadets and Air Force Cadets back from town to the barracks at the end of our street. Marching to Men of Harlech. Brings a lump to your throat.
Gene genie
09-11-08, 12:14 PM
just got back with my two little uns. the eldest use to go and represent the cubs group, but hes 11 now so hes retired. down to his 6 yr old younger brother in the beavers to fly the flag. very important for the younger generation to realise just what war means in the hope they dont suffer the same fate.
no matter how many times i hear the last post it still chokes me.
the only thing that i was upset with was the sunday morning football matches, how insencetive. ball in play, players screaming and shouting at one another during the silence, disgusting and downright ignorant.
xXBADGERXx
09-11-08, 12:22 PM
Watched on Tv this year and even stopped making noise/talking/clattering on my keyoard for 2 minutes ......... a record for me .
Gene genie
09-11-08, 12:31 PM
calmed down a little now. my son has just pointed out to me that all matches would 'defo' had a minute silence before any game today, yeah i know old head on young shoulders. so i'm sorry to all footballers out there, but i still feel the kick off times could be re-arranged to suit one important day in the year.
Just got back from the Church with my son Jake.
luckily the weather stayed good to us all.
Blue_SV650S
09-11-08, 12:57 PM
Wonder how long it will be before Remembrance Sunday is phased out? can't be many generations now surely? :scratch:
Gene genie
09-11-08, 01:00 PM
wonder how long it will be before remembrance sunday is phased out? Can't be many generations now surely? :scratch:
never!!!!!
xXBADGERXx
09-11-08, 01:03 PM
They did say on TV that quite a few wont be marching next year . Shame really :(
Shellywoozle
09-11-08, 01:04 PM
I helped the local British Legion plan the one in the town I work, RBS is run by a lovely 72 year old who gets paid nothing and does a great job. Poor dear fell down the stairs last week and broke her shoulder ...... awwww. And shame it rained :( lots of soggy people but sure it made no difference.
As for it being phased out Blue, i think Genie genie is right on that one - Never !!!
Wonder how long it will be before Remembrance Sunday is phased out? can't be many generations now surely? :scratch:
As long as there are British servicemen and women fighting and dying for their country how can it ever be phased out.
Remembrance Sunday is not just about those who died in two World Wars, but about all those who have died since in other wars.
Blue_SV650S
09-11-08, 01:17 PM
As long as there are British servicemen and women fighting and dying for their country how can it ever be phased out.
Remembrance Sunday is not just about those who died in two World Wars, but about all those who have died since in other wars.
That is a good point, I suppose it is wider than just WW1/WW2 ... but apart from other current servicemen/women and their family's etc, does anyone else care about modern service people these days?
I can't see the same level of universal gratitude is there for current service people. I think people in the time of WW1/WW2 were very 'special' and it was a unique period in history.
In WW1/WW2 we were fighting for the UK and peoples actual lives/homes/country ... people aren't trying to march across the UK any more ... so what are we fighting for now? :scratch:
Dicky Ticker
09-11-08, 01:19 PM
One word----------------RESPECT------------- in every context of the word
Tiger 55
09-11-08, 01:23 PM
When You Go Home,
Tell Them Of Us And Say,
For Their Tomorrow,
We Gave Our Today
Can you even imagine what that really means? Giving your life for the benefit, sorry possible benefit, of people you don't know, people not even born? It makes you stop and think I'll tell you that.
fizzwheel
09-11-08, 01:25 PM
Wonder how long it will be before Remembrance Sunday is phased out? can't be many generations now surely? :scratch:
Never, it'll be a sad day if it ever does get phased out and if it does I hope I'm not around to see it.
Does it matter that the number of WW1 and WW2 Veterans are dwindling, no it doesnt the fact that they did what they did should never be forgotten and it doesnt matter what nationality those people were, what they went through was the same regardless of which side they fought on.
But as said its not just WW1 & WW2 we are remembering, its all the other conflicts that have happened since. Is what those troops did in the Falkands or the Gulf conflicts any different. The causes and the outcome's are the same, Whether fighting for freedom, Queen and Country or because of George Bush & Tony Blairs war mongering, makes no difference those people still died and they get my respect.
The trip to Normandy that we did in September really brought alot of this home to me.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/fizzwheel/Normandy%202008/DSC_0156.jpg
Gene genie
09-11-08, 01:29 PM
i think people still care blue. we haven't fought on our land for a long time anyway, battle of britain maybe.
one time war dead consisted of sons, brothers, husbands and fathers. nowadays a whole family can be serving in the forces which makes it more important.
fighting these days is alot more precise, modern day technology what it is, but there are still casualties. servicemen and women still take the same risks a soldier did in 1914. they will never be forgotten.
Dicky Ticker
09-11-08, 01:31 PM
I doubt if many members on here are old enough to have seen life at the end of WW2
but it was sadness with they who had lost loved ones and joy for them that had them returned.Life had a different meaning for nearly every family.
I am only greatful that my life for the last 60+ years has been so relatively peaceful thankful for the sacrifice that was made then, by so many normal men and women and the same sacrifices still being made today by our servicemen and women
xXBADGERXx
09-11-08, 01:32 PM
I doubt if many members on here are old enough to have seen life at the end of WW2
*cough*Pete`n`Lissa*cough*
Gene genie
09-11-08, 01:33 PM
I doubt if many members on here are old enough to have seen life at the end of WW2
but it was sadness with they who had lost loved ones and joy for them that had them returned.Life had a different meaning for nearly every family.
I am only greatful that my life for the last 60+ years has been so relatively peaceful thankful for the sacrifice that was made then, by so many normal men and women and the same sacrifices still being made today by our servicemen and women
nice post. it stands as proof that poppies will continue to fall on remembrence sunday.
That is a good point, I suppose it is wider than just WW1/WW2 ... but apart from other current servicemen/women and their family's etc, does anyone else care about modern service people these days?
I can't see the same level of universal gratitude is there for current service people. I think people in the time of WW1/WW2 were very 'special' and it was a unique period in history.
In WW1/WW2 we were fighting for the UK and peoples actual lives/homes/country ... people aren't trying to march across the UK any more ... so what are we fighting for now? :scratch:
Your more wrong than I think possible. There is now more support for our 'modern day' war heroes than there has ever been before. It's just now done in a modern way. Support now is not just for remembrance of the dead, but actual action to help those that have been wounded or traumatised. The effort is on a never before seen scale and is doing fantastic things for our heroes.
Every conflict that our soldiers face, regardless of where, when or any political reason, is preventing a World War 3. It is commonly thought if this world ever entered into such a war, it could very easily be the end to us all.
Granted the soldiers that fought and died in the two wars are special. But so are all those doing their bit for the likes of you and me. They categorically deserve remembrance Sunday as much as any other serviceman who has lost their life in the line of fire. It will never die. Although I believe it will be modernised as our old war heroes leave us.
Gene genie
09-11-08, 01:46 PM
how would we feel today if our sons and daughters received their call up papers. normal people, normal sons and daughters, our sons and daughters going to fight for their country.
sad, proud, possibly sick. well this has happened twice, lets hope that the work being done by our forces today prevents that ever happening again.
Wideboy
09-11-08, 01:57 PM
i was in halfords at the time, i was actually surprised it all went silent :rolleyes:
Blue_SV650S
09-11-08, 02:02 PM
how would we feel today if our sons and daughters received their call up papers. normal people, normal sons and daughters, our sons and daughters going to fight for their country.
sad, proud, possibly sick. well this has happened twice, lets hope that the work being done by our forces today prevents that ever happening again.
That is what made men, stepping up to the mark at a time of need.
Joining the forces as you have no education or other employment prospects and seeing it as a way of making good money is very different though ...
yorkie_chris
09-11-08, 02:12 PM
But that's what a professional army is.
*cough*Pete`n`Lissa*cough*
Oi.................Pete, maybe, but my Mum wasn't born until 1945!
My maternal grandfather lost his leg at Dunkirk, but for me, MY war was the Falklands. From 1980 until early 1982 I lived and worked in Plymouth, serving behind a bar in Union Street, which is where all the servicemen went to play. I was lying in hospital having just given birth to my first son when the war started. I remember wondering then how many of the proud young servicemen I'd served drinks would not be coming home. Remembrance Sunday that year was the most poignant that it had ever been for me.
Dangerous Dave
09-11-08, 02:31 PM
Joining the forces as you have no education or other employment prospects and seeing it as a way of making good money is very different though ...
So we are all think and stupid then Blue?
xXBADGERXx
09-11-08, 02:34 PM
So we are all think and stupid then Blue?
I think he was reffering back to the bad old days where the armed forces was the only way to earn a crust when there were no jobs to speak of .
yorkie_chris
09-11-08, 02:36 PM
As much of an obvious troll post as that was, that probably fits quite a lot of the cannon fodder joining army. Certainly seems that way with the lads I know who've joined army... sod all else in this town. Although one lad joined engineers and will be qualified plumber when he comes out, bargain.
Anyway, monster derail from a thread supposed to be about honouring those who died horribly due to political games gone wrong.
Dangerous Dave
09-11-08, 02:51 PM
As a lot of people have said, remembrance will live on with the passing of the world war veterans. We remember everybody who has served or died in conflict throughout the history no matter what nationality, we pay tribute and thanks too all the service men and women and to all the civilian casualties of war.
We had a service here today, we will have a private one on the 11th for the men from our service who have died or seriously wounded in combat that to our outrage was never made public.
I watched the Festival of Remembrance on BBC1 last night, and also watched Her Majesty lay a wreath on behalf of us all this morning, as I do now every year. I used to attend a church service but sadly the local evangelicals took over and there was hardly any remembrance at all. Similarly I went to one in Falmouth with my late FIL a few years back, the writing was on the wall then - the new young minister stood up and said that he was not going to glorify war and that he did not welcome old soldiers wearing their medals. FIL had a torrid time at the hands of the Japanese in 1944 and so many of his friends did not come back - he felt he had been kicked in the teeth.
Simon's post about it all changing is a good one, it simply reflects that we live in a changing world. We must never forget.
yorkie_chris
09-11-08, 03:31 PM
the new young minister stood up and said that he was not going to glorify war and that he did not welcome old soldiers wearing their medals.
That's quite sickening.
All these photos were taken in the Falkland Islands.
Argentine Cemetary near Goosegreen.
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9365/dscf04411640x480rw6.jpg
205 Signals sqn, looked a bit neglected...
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/5473/falklandslastleg8640x48mc2.jpg
So I gave it a bit of a clean, as you do.
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/7366/falklandslastleg10640x4sg9.jpg
Top of Mount Harriet on the road 6 miles outside of Port Stanley, 42 Royal Marines Commando memoral.
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/3813/mountharriet11640x480jp6.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6695/mountharriet12640x480xd4.jpg
and again, have to give it a clean and sprouse up.
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8538/mountharriet13640x480ok9.jpg
one final one.. after polishing had finished...
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/116/mountharriet7640x480ul0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
tanis34
09-11-08, 04:08 PM
the medals were not handed out to glorify war but for an individerals bravery and sacrifice that was made in a time of need
I'm just back from Warwick, went with my parents to the Service there by the memorial. My Grandads name is on it. I never knew him as my Dad was 6 when he was killed at El Alamein. But I still cry every year.
RIP Grandad.
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