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yorkie_chris
09-11-08, 09:35 PM
I'm looking at external hard drives, but thinking about it a LAN'd drive might be more appropriate.
Am looking at this:
http://www.lambda-tek.com/computing/pcdesigner.htm
(Icybox IB-NAS4220-B) Also does bittorent downloads 8)
And thinking I could use a pair of 500gb (maybe more) drives on raid 1 (iirc... the mirrored drive system for reliability)
This attatched to the netgear wireless hub thing (also has 3x wired PC's attatched, and the cable modem), should allow me to use FTP to access files (and for MYC's use) from afar...
Right then here's the bit which escapes me, if the above all makes sense to the computer-literate:
As this will be connected to net, obviously it'll need to be password protected. I also need 3 separate "users" of files with different areas, like a folder for each "area" with seperate passwords.
So then... am I talking complete rubbish? If so, then what would you recommend instead? If not, how would you go about setting it up?
Cheers!
Chris
You're right, up until the point of having sperate password protected folders.
Probably the best way to do it, would be to map the network drive(s) to your computer, then install FTPd software on your computer.
Then you can setup accounts and permissions within that software to cater your needs.
That's basically what I do at home, but it does mean that one 'pc' (in my case it's a home made media computer) has to be on all the time.
However, if you can find a SAN (Storage Area Network) device that has it's own inbuilt FTPd software (and it's configurable enough for your needs), then go for that.
Hello Chris,
If you have 2 external HDD drives connected onto your PC you could say that one disk you have folder on for you and MissYC and the other HDD is for something else.
You can use FileZilla server on your PC and give MYC an account and specify certain access rights for example she could only access H:/MYC using her FileZilla login and then set the other users access rights
yorkie_chris
09-11-08, 09:49 PM
If I was going to run the pc all the time I could just use a far cheaper external drive.
SAN devices are massively expensive aren't they?
I think they are quite expensive, not sure don't deal with them.
If the PC is running all the time then yes you can have an FTP server running directly on your PC. However you have to remember that FTP needs to be encrypted.
The IcyBox you're looking at is a SAN device. SAN is the same as NAS (Network Attached Storage).
The same IcyBox as you were looking at (your link doesn't work btw), is here: http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=696370
That one already has all the tools you'd need installed on it, it's just a matter of configuration. Then allowing traffic to it from your router. Job jobbed.
The same IcyBox as you were looking at (your link doesn't work btw), is here: http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=696370
Ahh.. I see what your talking about now but I don't think that comes with HDD's so you need to add an extra ~£100 for 2 500GB hdd's
yorkie_chris
09-11-08, 10:04 PM
Yes indeed have budgeted for that.
My apologies for not knowing much about them thar computers...
So it'd work then?
Stupid question #2: How secure are files? I think my router has a type of firewall built in, but I point you in direction of my apology for knowing sod all...
The IcyBox you're looking at is a SAN device. SAN is the same as NAS (Network Attached Storage).
The same IcyBox as you were looking at (your link doesn't work btw), is here: http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=696370
That is a NAS box, not a SAN box.
<pedant>SANs & NAS' are different.</pedant>
Well, it's about as secure as your password :lol:.
If you have a password that's easy to remember, it's also easy to crack. The software can be setup to make a hacker/cracker's life harder, for example, incorrect login attempt 5 times running, and it completely ignores you for the next hour.
But basically, you're playing a waiting game. No system is 100% secure, it's only a matter of time until it's comprimised. An attecker with unlimited time & unlimited funds will get access.
As an example for passwords, I did a recent thread for the geeks asking advice for a friend. They found the username for a celebrity, and their password hint was "what colour are my eyes?"... a quick google later & cracked.
My passwords are rather more complex, but I'm a geek, so I can memorise them easier.
As for the services that you'd be running, they're pretty reliable (assuming Linux with a decent FTPd service), and you could easily set the box to auto-update with the latest security updates for more piece of mind.
EDIT: Dan, no need for the pedantry :lol: For this purpose, they are one & the same. Just that a SAN has more devices! :p
The password will stop people gaining access but the data can still be intercepted from the device to the destination. All depends on what you are transmitting.
The password will stop people gaining access but the data can still be intercepted from the device to the destination. All depends on what you are transmitting.
YC, If you or MYC are worried about that, once you get the device I can talk you though how to encrypt the transmissions easily.
yorkie_chris
09-11-08, 10:22 PM
The thing is, I'm not sure how configurable this box is... Could it be set up to only chat to certain MAC's like my router can be? Would that stop data being intercepted? I'm guessing not.
Some form of encrypted transmission would be good. Cheers baph.
Just looking through the manual to see if it gives any clues. Manual is in pretty good English which makes a change.
missyburd
09-11-08, 10:25 PM
The password will stop people gaining access but the data can still be intercepted from the device to the destination. All depends on what you are transmitting.
when Chris suggested this I immediately thought not secure and so am still not convinced. As far as I'm concerned, as long as you find some way of securing something over the net, someone else will find a way of hacking into it, and I don't particularly want stuff of mine accidentally being leaked all over the shop!
However, YC is a genius compared to me as far as this sorta technology is concerned so tis up to you clevercloggses to convince me. most of this thread is just gobbledegook to me but I shall try to understand.....:mrgreen:
What Baph suggested will prevent people from easily gaining access but if someone is really wanting to get your access they will. You are sending data across a public network so there is always the risk but encryption will help.
yorkie_chris
09-11-08, 10:32 PM
Same principle as bike security... make it more of a PITA than the next guy and not worth stealing anyway. It's not like it's worthwhile making a determined attack to steal pictures and music which is available on bittorrent anyway...
Same principle as bike security... make it more of a PITA than the next guy and not worth stealing anyway. It's not like it's worthwhile making a determined attack to steal pictures and music which is available on bittorrent anyway...
Exactly, they will just move onto an easier target
The thing is, I'm not sure how configurable this box is... Could it be set up to only chat to certain MAC's like my router can be? Would that stop data being intercepted? I'm guessing not.
Some form of encrypted transmission would be good. Cheers baph.
The site I quoted is pretty definately the box from the shop, already running linux (just you add the SATA drives for storage). If that's the case, you have a couple of options as far as firewalls go, and yes, MAC filtering is entirely possible.
Hell, it could even be remotely setup by one of the .Org geeks if needs be.
when Chris suggested this I immediately thought not secure and so am still not convinced. As far as I'm concerned, as long as you find some way of securing something over the net, someone else will find a way of hacking into it, and I don't particularly want stuff of mine accidentally being leaked all over the shop!
You are entirely correct. However, if you know how, all of my home PC (including some, well, lets say revealing pictures) is accessible via the internet. There's also webcam's scattered around my house that can be viewed (again, if you know how). The trick is in delaying any breach of security long enough as to not make yourself a viable target to the majority of attackers.
If you're wanting this sort of setup, I personally would set it up so you had to login once, using a shell - this would setup the encrypted tunnel between you & the device. Then you'd have to login to access files, but with a different password. Each person has two passwords.
Done properly, few people would even know you were sharing this stuff online, so would never think to attack it.
YC, another aspect to consider, is how secure your home wifi is (whilst we're on the security bandwagon).
EDIT: You do get folks like me, who just like a challenge now & again. Not interested in your data, but want to break your security type of people. :lol:
yorkie_chris
09-11-08, 10:40 PM
WEP, MAC filtered to only my laptop. Router password set to something other than "password"
I don't really know how secure this is, but wouldn't an attacker need to brute force the MAC adress before even getting started on the WEP (which takes about 2 minutes according to youtube)
I don't really know how secure this is, but wouldn't an attacker need to brute force the MAC adress before even getting started on the WEP (which takes about 2 minutes according to youtube)
Nope, they'd only need to sit outside & sniff. Anyhow, home time, so I'll talk geek later. :lol:
yorkie_chris
09-11-08, 11:04 PM
So I just need to keep eye out of window with crossbow :-P
Or stop being lazy and wire it when I don't need wireless... Though to be fair I can use my neighbors wireless, which has the default passwords on it... So any miscreant would find his far easier than mine
yorkie_chris
09-11-08, 11:23 PM
Apparently EXT2 and EXT3 file systems have "user level access control"
No idea what EXT2 or 3 are but it sounds promising...
Apparently EXT2 and EXT3 file systems have "user level access control"
No idea what EXT2 or 3 are but it sounds promising...
EXT2 and 3 are file systems, how the files are written on to the disks themselves, and how the computer knows where on the disk each file is.
Yup, they have user/group control. But all you'll probably do there, is have an account for you & MYC (seperate accounts most likely), and both accounts will be members of the same group. That group, will be able to read/write files and create/delete directories within the FTP applications.
With me so far?
Then you & MYC will have your own accounts (I'm guessing again seperate accounts) in order to access FTP.
The way I'd set it up, you'd use the account for the file system to setup the secure tunnel to transfer encrypted data. But you'd use the FTP login accounts to gain access once the encryption is setup.
As for your wireless network, seriously, all someone would need to do is sit outside your house. Sniff enough traffic and they'd have your WEP key and your MAC. They can then kick you off the network (or wait until you go out on the bike etc) & spoof your MAC, thus getting permissions on your network as if it were your laptop. My laptop is configured to do this automatically on boot - it comes in handy when I'm out & about.
You may want to consider improving security at home a little (oh, and MYC, please try not to be too scared by what I just wrote :) ).
yorkie_chris
09-11-08, 11:41 PM
So, how would you secure the wireless? Or should I just use it wired...
missyburd
09-11-08, 11:50 PM
(oh, and MYC, please try not to be too scared by what I just wrote :) ).
Nope, its no good, I read that through 4 times and it still confuzzled me :rolleyes: Never mind, this is what I have Chris for :-D
yorkie_chris
09-11-08, 11:51 PM
OK so even though EXT systems are not readable by windows (according to manual), I can still use them as I don't intend to put these HDD into a computer. (don't have a SATA comp to put them in...)
So, how would you secure the wireless? Or should I just use it wired...
For starters, upgrade to WPA, with a decent key. 128 minimum really.
OK so even though EXT systems are not readable by windows (according to manual), I can still use them as I don't intend to put these HDD into a computer. (don't have a SATA comp to put them in...)
The link I provided you with, stated that the box was using Samba. Samba does the work of the devil, allowing Windows computers to read linux file systems (EXT2 or EXT3 for example).
However, if you're using FTP, it's a moot point anyway, as the FTP service on the box will read the files/directories & send them to the Windows computer.
It doesn't matter what file system you use really (EXT3 for what it's worth), there are services running on the box to make sure you can read the files.
yorkie_chris
10-11-08, 12:04 AM
Embarrasingly for someone whos told people to RTFM, I've Read TFM, and it explains just that lol. Also explains about setting up user accounts. Heheh...
Ok, WPA set up. Router had that, dunno why I didn't use that in first place.
How complex is it to set up this encrypted tunnel? what program/service is it etc (so I can do some google-fu... I find this quite interesting despite my ignorance)
Thanks for your patience
How complex is it to set up this encrypted tunnel? what program/service is it etc (so I can do some google-fu... I find this quite interesting despite my ignorance)
Thanks for your patience
The encrypted tunnel would be done via SSH port forwarding. I'll use MYC as the example for the theory...
Esentially, MYC runs an application on her computer, which connects to the IcyBox (or similar device). Once this connection is established, this application opens a port on MYC's computer (which should only be accessible by MYC as it's on the local interface), and also opens a port on the IcyBox via SSH. These two ports are then connected by the SSH connection, forming a data "pipe".
SSH is by default encrypted, but you can change the options as to how much encryption is used.
MYC then points her FTP client (internet explorer would even do it!) to the port on her local computer (so, ftp://127.0.0.1 etc), and this is transferred down the pipe to the IcyBox at the appropriate point.
This link walks you through the actual "how to" for the setting up of a basic version. http://www1.umn.edu/adcs/help/sshwin.html
BTW, if your rouer is still broadcasting SSID, disable that too to be a little more secure.
EDIT: Don't worry, what you're seeing isn't patience. It's me filling the bank ready for withdrawls when I have stupid bike questions to ask. :)
yorkie_chris
10-11-08, 12:28 AM
Bargain! Interesting site too.
yorkie_chris
10-11-08, 12:48 AM
So, n00b question #138: With it set up like that, are files accessible from anywhere? Would I just set up the SSA on another machine to "dial" to same place?
Yup, files would be accessible from anywhere, by anyone subject to them having the right password(s) (bold for MYCs benefit :lol:).
If you recall from above, I said I have webcams scattered around the house. The reason for that is that it's hooked into a home made alarm system I have.
If the alarm is tripped enough that someone has got inside my house, I get an automated phone call about it. Then I can "dial" home & check things out. Doesn't matter where I am. Could be in the neighbours house, could be in Aus.
I also have all my MP3s etc setup so that I can access them when I'm in Manchester for various things. Doesn't waste space on the latop & I can play whatever music I want from the comfort of the nearest Starbucks etc.
yorkie_chris
10-11-08, 01:07 AM
So after you've logged onto this "tunnel" is it always open untill you logout, untill restart or what? More for MYCs benefit for ease of access.
Starbucks and my collection of various death and industrial metal ... they'd love it!! :-D
So after you've logged onto this "tunnel" is it always open untill you logout, untill restart or what? More for MYCs benefit for ease of access.
The tunnel is maintained by the application running on MYC's pc. If she wanted the tunnel closing, just close the application (Tera Term in the link I sent you, but there's loads of apps that will do it).
That would be seperate to the FTP program to download files etc, so if you close the tunnel application, you won't be able to transfer files.
Easiest analogy I suppose is that of a water system. You want to get water out of the tap (files from a computer), to do so, you need the pipe to be intact (connections OK etc), and you need to turn the tap on (application running, passwords sent). If the water company decide, they can cut you off too (you controlling the IcyBox from home).
The pipes are only present on demand, and usually the encryption changes per connection.
yorkie_chris
10-11-08, 01:25 AM
Aha I am beginning to understand.
OK another daft question: With WPA, there was a setting for duration, set at default to 60 minutes (in router settings) what's that about? Duration of the password?
missyburd
10-11-08, 01:56 AM
I think you're gonna be owing Baph a drink after this hun :D and me for that matter, despite the fact he could be talking about UFOs for all I understand :mrgreen:
yorkie_chris
10-11-08, 01:59 AM
Lol yes a pint will be heading his way at next rideout.
Can windows act as FTP client? I remember seeing "map network drive" command somewhere. Can you set that to connect through the SSH?
dont know how much storage you are looking for but if its just for home use, how about one of these..
http://svp.co.uk/product/ATMT_hd363n_external_network_hard_drive_enclosure_ atmt041?ref=news0211
according to my email there going to go down to £19.95 today/monday
ok its not got all the bells and whistles... and they only take ide drives ... but hey its wellll cheep...
you could always get 2... or get a big drive and partition one.
_drummer_
10-11-08, 03:01 AM
If I wanted a secure tunnel for FTP I'd use WinSCP (http://winscp.net/eng/docs/introduction) or similar, one bit of software that does both & comes with PuTTY for public key authentication. :)
OK another daft question: With WPA, there was a setting for duration, set at default to 60 minutes (in router settings) what's that about? Duration of the password?
Without looking it up, memory of the netgears is a little limited, but basically the password helps to define the encryption settings. It also uses the time of key generation in the process. The duration is basically how long the encryption key (note that this is different to the password) lasts before re-generation.
Maybe you should RTFM for that though, like I said, my memory isn't the best on the internals of netgear routers (sorry, couldn't resist!! :lol:).
Can windows act as FTP client? I remember seeing "map network drive" command somewhere. Can you set that to connect through the SSH?
Windows itself, not really. You're also getting a little confused between the services.
There are applications within Windows, by default, that will deal with either FTP or networked drives (note, both are different services, effectively talking different languages).
If you want slipstream integration, you'll be looking at networked drives (from MYC in Aber to your house, via a secure tunnel). For that, you'd use Samba. Samba will read EXT2/3 & send it down the tunnel so that MYCs Windows PC can understand the file system. Once setup, all MYC would see would be another hard drive, as if it were physically inside her computer (subject to the tunnel being open that is).
If you just want the ability to transfer files backwards & forwards, then you're looking at FTPd.
There's no real difference in terms of security & configurability, Samba is better for that than some FTPd programs. I wouldn't advise opening the Samba ports to the rest of the world, but since we're talking about doing this down a secure tunnel it's not an issue.
If you were to go the route of networked drives (and "map network drive" in explorer) then you'd just change the port numbers from the link I posted for SSH tunnel configuration. FTP uses 22 & a "random" data port, networked drives use 135, 139 & 445.
Then MYC would just map a network drive, and tell the appropriate dialogs to look at her local computer (once the tunnel is setup). There are a few other config changes to make to accomplish that, but there's no point going over that before you've got the device infront of you.
http://svp.co.uk/product/ATMT_hd363n_external_network_hard_drive_enclosure_ atmt041?ref=news0211
That device doesn't state that it's running a particular OS, so it may be a little more complex to setup. Still do-able, but it'd be more of an ugly hack.
If I wanted a secure tunnel for FTP I'd use WinSCP (http://winscp.net/eng/docs/introduction) or similar, one bit of software that does both & comes with PuTTY for public key authentication. :)
My turn to be a pedant, I downloaded WinSCP recently, and PuTTY didn't come with it. It will talk on SSH by itself, without PuTTY, but lacks some of the advanced features. It gives you the option to specify where PuTTY is located to enable the advanced stuff.
Whilst that's true, and I use WinSCP to transfer between my laptop & my PC (even when I'm at home), WinSCP is only good for file transfers.
If you only want to do file transfers, I see no reason not to just use PuTTY configured to do port forwarding & then use the applications built into Windows for file transfer. Doing things that way allows greater scope for adding services on without doing an awful lot more config work.
_drummer_
10-11-08, 09:47 AM
My turn to be a pedant, I downloaded WinSCP recently, and PuTTY didn't come with it.
hehe my turn
<pedant>
well it does come with PuTTYgen & pageant & contains code from PuTTY *thumps WinSCP on the head & they fall out* but the former 2 only in the installation package, not the portable version
</pedant>
:)
not very helpful though, so I'll go & sit in a corner & have a word with myself.
hehe my turn
<pedant>
well it does come with PuTTYgen & pageant & contains code from PuTTY *thumps WinSCP on the head & they fall out* but the former 2 only in the installation package, not the portable version
</pedant>
:)
not very helpful though, so I'll go & sit in a corner & have a word with myself.
PuttyGen only deals with RSA key generation. Pageant only deals with SSH authentication.
The rest of the code from PuTTY is basically only so far as file system navigation.
So just like I said then. :) :lol: Make it a serious word with yourself. ;)
EDIT: Oh MYC, whilst I'm thinking about it, if Chris is insistant that this is how you MUST do things, Aber isn't that far away & I could always take a trip to configure everything & show you how to use it. There has to be some way to actually earn that pint. :lol:
missyburd
10-11-08, 10:18 AM
EDIT: Oh MYC, whilst I'm thinking about it, if Chris is insistant that this is how you MUST do things, Aber isn't that far away & I could always take a trip to configure everything & show you how to use it. There has to be some way to actually earn that pint. :lol:
Lol, I don't think he's insistant about it, just seeing it as a potential cheaper option to an external hard drive. Not too sure though. I'm not too fussed what he does as long as its secure and I can use it without too much difficulty!
Ta for the offer though :smt058
yorkie_chris
10-11-08, 01:14 PM
Basically the reason for doing it this way is system is upgradeable for storage space, and can raid the 2 drives together for a redundant system. Though I'm thinking it may be easier to just spend as much as I can justify on drives so as to avoid upgrading it...
The samba thing sounds like it'll be easier to use on a regular basis, especially if the encrypted "tunnel" software is running in the background. I'm sure the icybox supports samba too. However, I've never used or set up either. Which would you reccomend for ease of use (and other factors)?
The link I showed you for the IcyBox, states it has Samba installed on it already, as well as FTPd.
To be honest, for file access, sharing & collaboration etc, you'd maybe be better off sticking with Samba. You can install something called SWAT on the box too probably, basically a graphical user interface to configure Samba.
Security won't be a major issue (intrusions wise) due to the fact that the only port you're opening to the outside world would would be the one to kick start the tunneling.
The only thing to watch out for, would be vulnerabilities/bugs within the software used, and keeping it up to date. For that reason, I'd stick with Samba, as the people that make it tend to patch holes quite quickly. If the IcyBox were setup to take advantage of automatic updates, then you're laughing.
Some FTP software manufacters can be a little slower to release updates.
Anyhow, my 3yr old is trying to close the laptop so I have to go sit with him for lunch :lol:
yorkie_chris
14-11-08, 01:32 PM
Found one of those NAS boxes with a 160gb drive for 77 quid. It's either a bargain, or I've just bought the worlds least cost-effective external hard drive lol
Well you can always swap the drive out.
yorkie_chris
14-11-08, 01:46 PM
Yup, intended to set it up as mirrored drives.
yorkie_chris
19-11-08, 04:04 PM
Right then, got that icybox thing, and it appears to work as it should.
Right then, got that icybox thing, and it appears to work as it should.
Cool, what have you got setup so far? Mapped drives from your PC to IcyBox? Any secure tunnels configured yet?
I'm on nights at the moment, so if you fancy a chat around 11:30 ish onwards. MSN address is available from Dizzy :).
yorkie_chris
19-11-08, 04:14 PM
Setup so far:
Plugged it in, gone \\ib-nas4200, went "oh yeah it works, cool" And that's the lot lol.
Works fine transferring files on wireless and wired LAN though which I presume is a good sign.
Aye I'll be online later.
Do you have an electric copy of the manual, or a paper one?
If its electronic, you could forward it on to me later so I know what I'm looking at in more detail, and it'd save me googling for it. :)
yorkie_chris
19-11-08, 04:20 PM
Just what's on the net:
http://pool.nas-4220.org/images/2/2a/Manual_IB-NAS4220-B_ENG.pdf
from:
http://en.nas-4220.org/index.php/Main_Page
Please keep this thread public - I've been musing about the same icybox to do something similar so I'm really keen to know more! My personal conclusion was that, for more than one user, a centralised NAS type solution is far better than multiple external hard drives, especially with added data security via RAID.
The tunneling option is something extra that I will have to think about, as the possibilities with remote access are intriguing. Does that mean I'm going to have to get to better grips with my router firewall rules and port forwarding setup?
Glad you found the 4220 community website link. I was about to post it up but good job I read the whole thread.
Unfortunately, money's tight for me at the moment, so I'm going to start trialling ideas by setting up an old pc (free) with small single HDD (free) to run a linux variant, maybe ubuntu or mint (free), to get a feel for things. RAID will come later as will more advanced things like media serving over IP.
Loads to play with and learn, although I have a feeling I won't be at Baph's level of knowledge until the next life! Now all I've got to do is figure out what I can use to trade (thinks: must get that 17th ed/Part P electrical competency sorted.)
And while we're at it, we'll all be tinkering with bikes to keep it relevant, won't we!
yorkie_chris
19-11-08, 10:41 PM
I paid £87 for the icybox including a 160gb drive, fairly reasonable I thought. That was on eBay.
I paid £87 for the icybox including a 160gb drive, fairly reasonable I thought. That was on eBay.
Yep, I agree, seems like a good price, but I haven't even got that right now (wife & kids etc.!!!).
When I get there, though, I want two disks at least 500GB each (simple RAID1 mirrored is my intention) but I want to buy 'em new for confidence as they'll be the two most important discs on my network. I don't want to test the RAID redundancy too soon!
Please keep this thread public...
And while we're at it, we'll all be tinkering with bikes to keep it relevant, won't we!
Some minor conversations may be held off the forum to prevent flooding too much useless crap into this thread, but I fail to see the need to discuss bikes here (unless YC gets out of his depth ;) )... it's Idle Banter afterall. :)
yorkie_chris
19-11-08, 11:11 PM
Engine... grumble grumble... cuppa tea ... grumble ... valvetrainsncranks ... oily stuff... meh...
Better :-P
Right, first hurdle, the IcyBox doesn't have an open shell, nor does it appear to allow configuration for such. If anyone reading this is interested in encrypted tunnels, the IcyBox isn't the best route to go... you'd be better with a small home PC.
EDIT: Due to the above, YC has opted to continue with the IcyBox using FTP (since it offers more protection than Samba - at the cost of integration). Anyone else reading this thread & wants to setup tunnels etc, feel free to jump into the conversation. :)
startrek.steve
20-11-08, 09:36 AM
Unfortunately, money's tight for me at the moment, so I'm going to start trialling ideas by setting up an old pc (free) with small single HDD (free) to run a linux variant, maybe ubuntu or mint (free), to get a feel for things.
Like I said to Chris, give freenas a try - www.freenas.org
Steve
startrek.steve
20-11-08, 10:01 AM
So I just need to keep eye out of window with crossbow :-P
Or stop being lazy and wire it when I don't need wireless... e
Chris, a simple thing I do, all the upstairs is on a wired network, only use wireless for downstairs, the wireless router plugs into my wired router and its on a power timer, so comes on at 7:00am, & goes off at 22:00pm, so theres 9 hours of wifi security locked down for a start! Use WEP & MAC addresses as well, had a panic on when I was a stray MAC on the Wifi till I realised it was the lads PSP!
yorkie_chris
20-11-08, 10:17 AM
If you'd limited it to use just your MAC address how did the PSP connect?
startrek.steve
20-11-08, 10:39 AM
If you'd limited it to use just your MAC address how did the PSP connect?
The Lad added it & never told me!
Theres a few MAC's on ours, Sony Vaio, Two Asus EEE's, PSP, Old Puppy Linux laptop.
Looking to building a Media player to play video straight off the server next. Currently using a gigaview, plays video straight off its HD on the TV, copy them to it via USB off the PC.
... , but I fail to see the need to discuss bikes here (unless YC gets out of his depth ;) )... it's Idle Banter afterall. :)
Sorry, I think some of my (v. pathetic, as usual) attempt at humour got lost here. Of course, you're absolutely right.:)
Engine... grumble grumble... cuppa tea ... grumble ... valvetrainsncranks ... oily stuff... meh...
Better :-P
LOL
Like I said to Chris, give freenas a try - www.freenas.org (http://www.freenas.org)
Steve
Cheers Steve. This could be my first step to get something running while I teach myself a bit more about Linux so that I can develop something a bit more tailored.
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