thinking of some heilbars

[bigspud]

i was thinking of trying some helibars, to try and relieve fatigue and dead fingers,just wondered if any one had any experience of them,and thoughts thereon,ta

[Jackie_Black]

I have some. They make a difference form the standard set up but I still get numb fingers. They allow you to situp a little more though and fling the bike round slightly more than you could.

[startrek.steve]

I have some. They make a difference form the standard set up but I still get numb fingers. They allow you to situp a little more though and fling the bike round slightly more than you could.

Do you have a curvy or pointy?
on the comfort kit, you have to hack the sides off your windscreen to get clearance on a curvy, pointys ok.

[Alpinestarhero]

numb fingers tend to come from gripping the handlebars tightly. Try relaxing your grip on the handlbars by clenching the tank with your knees. If you can get away with wearing summer gloves then that helps too, I find winter gloves are so bulky I end up gripping harder to get the same "feel"

[daveb]

I have fitted Heli-Bars (pointy) and they have transformed the ride comfort totally. I was getting really sore wrists after 15-20 minutes and they would remain sore for 3-4 hours after riding.

The Heli's are higher and more forward, doesn't look much when you first fit them but it makes all the difference.
As mentioned, you still get tingly fingers after a long ride but I think this is down to the vibtation of a v-twin bike.

I would highly recomend them and I think they are well made and good value for around £200.

Just a note: If you have a recent pointy 07/08 you may need to remove the banjo locating tab on the front brake master cylinder to get clearance for the right-hand bar - this is dead straight forward tho.

Dave

[bris]

I am thinking about buying these http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUZUKI-SV650-RAISED-CLIP-ON-BARS-FOR-EASY-COMFORT-RIDE_W0QQitemZ150307386843QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Mo torcycle_Parts?hash=item150307386843&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318
Are they like heli bars?

[yorkie_chris]

Not really, helibars are actual handlebars, those are raised clipons... they do the same job but look more OEM

[Bibio]

gilles-tooling, vario bars with risers... blooody brilliant...

[bigspud]

thanks for the info guys

[bigspud]

gilles-tooling, vario bars with risers... blooody brilliant...
hi m8 they look like a fine bit of kit ,you got any pics of them fitted ,ta

[Bibio]

sorta ... they were a bit of a cafuddle to get right as i was in a hurry at the workshop. but once i got home again i had more time and set them up just nicely... there on a gixer front end swap though.. but u'll get the idea

here ya go ..

http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sv01gz3.jpg

http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sv02xv0.jpg

http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sv03ay1.jpg

they really are worth every penny.... if i have time i'll take sumore pictures now that i have them set up right...

[daveb]

I considered varios as well but I have to say that I prefered the simplicity of the Heli's - the fact that you could just bolt them on and they were set-up.
The Varios do look a bit fiddily to sort out but I'm sure they are great once you have them properly fitted/adjusted.
Also, with the heli's being one-peice they do look more like factory fitted bars where as I feel the varios, beautifully engineered as they are, do look a little too 'custom made' for my tastes - imho of course :o)

[bigspud]

sorta ... they were a bit of a cafuddle to get right as i was in a hurry at the workshop. but once i got home again i had more time and set them up just nicely... there on a gixer front end swap though.. but u'll get the idea

here ya go ..

http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sv01gz3.jpg

http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sv02xv0.jpg

http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sv03ay1.jpg

they really are worth every penny.... if i have time i'll take sumore pictures now that i have them set up right...
thanks bibio great looking pics ,sorry to mither ,can i ask where you got them from ,i quite fancy some ,i like the trick look

[silent11]

thanks bibio great looking pics ,sorry to mither ,can i ask where you got them from ,i quite fancy some ,i like the trick look

and how much :D

[Razor]

If, like me, you're cheaper than an Oxfam suit. You'll go the naked yoke and flat bar route, more of a faff, but much cheaper. If you have a crash, helibars are expensive to replace compared to a cheap alloy handlebar.

[Bibio]

i got them from fleebay.. £80 for R6 ones .. then another £80 for the collars...

they come up quite often on fleebay so its worth keeping an eye out for them

i have some 43mm collars spare, but i think the sv forks are 41mm but i might be wrong..

they are roughly about 270-300 new depending where you get them ... m&p would probably be your best bet.. but i'm fortunate to have a gilles stockist where i stay..

its the variobars with 60mm risers you want.. another thing to note is that the bars come undrilled for the location holes so you have to drill them out yourself (no big fuss) i, also depending on what year/model of sv you have you might have to muck around with the wiring as i did... if you do decide to get them gives a shout and i'll go threw drilling them out and setting them up with you...

another good thing about the gilles are that you can replace any component, in case you break/bend something if you slide down the road

[Bibio]

cheapest place i've found them

http://www.calsport.co.uk/

[bigspud]

cheapest place i've found them

http://www.calsport.co.uk/
ta m8 good info thanks very much

[yorkie_chris]

If, like me, you're cheaper than an Oxfam suit. You'll go the naked yoke and flat bar route, more of a faff, but much cheaper. If you have a crash, helibars are expensive to replace compared to a cheap alloy handlebar.

Fit renthals, the OEM handlebars are fooking useless.

[embee]

It depends how adept you are at making things fit, but there are alternative ways of achieving similar results.

I fitted slightly modified FJ1200 clip-ons to my SK1S and the riding position is greatly improved for me. As the others have alluded, you don't need much change in bar position to make a huge difference to the riding experience. The FJ bars (I swapped them over left/right, they are handed) lift and pull back only an inch or so, and end up slightly "flatter" across the bike. I find low speed control and town use is a huge improvement due to having less weight on your hands, you can concentrate on control and not on support.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/Hi-vis/IMG_2946_25R.jpg

[startrek.steve]

If, like me, you're cheaper than an Oxfam suit. You'll go the naked yoke and flat bar route, more of a faff, but much cheaper. If you have a crash, helibars are expensive to replace compared to a cheap alloy handlebar.

And would that setup clear the windscreen on a curvy? bet it wouldnt...
Steve

[startrek.steve]

It depends how adept you are at making things fit, but there are alternative ways of achieving similar results.

I fitted slightly modified FJ1200 clip-ons to my SK1S and the riding position is greatly improved for me. As the others have alluded, you don't need much change in bar position to make a huge difference to the riding experience. The FJ bars (I swapped them over left/right, they are handed) lift and pull back only an inch or so, and end up slightly "flatter" across the bike. I find low speed control and town use is a huge improvement due to having less weight on your hands, you can concentrate on control and not on support.



What did you need to mod? whats the clearance like around the screen?
Steve

[Razor]

And would that setup clear the windscreen on a curvy? bet it wouldnt...
Steve

it does I just got a double bubble and lopped the ears off.

[embee]

I have a non-standard double bubble and haven't checked it with the stock item so can't say how clearance is with it. I did take a small amount off the "ears", maybe 20mm or so just to ensure good clearance.

The FJ bars are steel forgings for the uprights with steel pipes fitted. The uprights needed some grinding at the rear side as you see them in the photo to clear the top yoke, still plenty of strength there. I welded a small pad on with drilled and tapped hole for the brake reservoir, drilled holes for the switchgear location pips, and added some tabs to accept the anti-rotation bolts into the underside of the yoke though it's not really necessary. Brake hose is about 25mm longer than stock I think, but everything else reaches fine.

As I said, if you're happy doing this sort of fitting work it's not a big deal, otherwise pay the extra and get something already engineered for the job.

[bigspud]

hello again the awesome org,fitted my helibars at w/end however on the end weight front there is a plate in the end of the bars which will not allow the refitting of the oem weights,just a different screw to fit the weights on the end ,is this the way helibars are :confused:,im just concerned about the vibration thing,anyone had experience and or remedies to it,
any advice thanks in advance

[Amplimator]

@ Bibio, nice bars you got there but i couldnt help but notice a rather sexy pic of a silver pointy with the rear end dismantled in your imageshack piccys

i finally finished puttin it back together lol ;)

Amp

[Caddy2000]

hello again the awesome org,fitted my helibars at w/end however on the end weight front there is a plate in the end of the bars which will not allow the refitting of the oem weights,just a different screw to fit the weights on the end ,is this the way helibars are :confused:,im just concerned about the vibration thing,anyone had experience and or remedies to it,
any advice thanks in advance

Did you get any spare screws with your kit? I seem to remember getting a set with mine that allowed me to fit the OEM bar weights......

Actually I've got a pair that I'm thinking of selling (for a pointy), will probably flog 'em on ebay when I've finished by front end conversion

[daveb]

My bar ends went straight on the Heli's with the original Suzuki screws, no problems! What's the actuall issue you are having?

D

[bigspud]

My bar ends went straight on the Heli's with the original Suzuki screws, no problems! What's the actuall issue you are having?

D
hi D the thing is allthough the weights are screwed on ,im left with the tube and the rubber bits for both sides,im just concerned about the vibration without them in ,
i havent ridden since i put them on btw

[Dangerous Dave]

It is the weights that remove the vibration, the rubber bung holds them in.

I take it you have them fitted, screwed in like a Curvy's are?

[bigspud]

[quote=Dangerous Dave;1743806]It is the weights that remove the vibration, the rubber bung holds them in.

I take it you have them fitted, screwed in like a Curvy's are?[/quote
they are just screwed in dave yes
i was under the impression that the rubber did the business ,but hey ive been wrong before
sorry if im being thick
thanks very much

[daveb]

Hi - Just screw the bar ends straight to the bars without the rubbers - as mentioned, the rubbers were for holding the bar ends onto the factory bars.
I have done 3000 miles with the Heli's and bar ends screwed on like this with absolutly no problems whatsoever.

D

[-Ralph-]

Have folk with raised bars found that they really need a double bubble screen afterwards?

[embee]

I've got 2 SVS bikes at the moment, exactly (!!) the same apart from the raised FJ1200 bars on one, both have the same dubble-bubbles.

I must admit that the raised bar version does result in noticeably more wind loading on me, although it isn't a problem, just noticeable, even though the bars are only a couple of inches different in height. What might be significant is that they are also a couple of inches wider, so my arms are probably directing more air into my body.

I would guess that with raised bars you'd benefit significantly from a dub-bub.

I do prefer the raised bars for the overall riding experience.

[daveb]

I've not noticed any more wind turbulance with heli bars, seems just the same as with stock...

[Alpinestarhero]

Has anyone used the LSL kit for a handlebar conversion? I'm very interested in that; I know the screen has to be cut down for that aswell. Its expensive, but looks yummy

[Dangerous Dave]

Has anyone used the LSL kit for a handlebar conversion? I'm very interested in that; I know the screen has to be cut down for that aswell. Its expensive, but looks yummy
Not on my own bike but I have fitted one, nice bits of kit and very well made.

[yorkie_chris]

It better be for the price.

[bigspud]

thanks chaps
it turns out i was being thick after all
again thank you very much