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petevtwin650
15-11-08, 11:35 PM
Our 996 went in for a 12k service. Normally that would entail a belt change too but they were done around 5k ago.
Firstly only one rocker needed replacing. All the other valve clearances were within tolerance as well. He checked the rotor nut and found it had previously come lose and superficially damaged the inner case. Re torqued up now. Measured and visually checked the clutch pack. Still servicable. Fluids changed. Oil and fuel filters changed. Plugs and air filters ok as they were changed around 6k ago too. Rear axle pulled out and bearings checked. Ok. He advised me that the chain was on the service limit. I'd just replaced the sprockets a couple of hundred miles ago, so they were ok. He'd got an new chain lying around that another customer had decided not to have. OEM in fact. so sold that to me for 50 quid. Bonus! They are about 120 quid retail. Balanced the throttle bodies. Did another few minor things on it at my request.
All for a very reasonable price (in the scheme of things) and I left there feeling I hadn't been shafted and that he really did care about customer service.
The cost so far is:
One belt and fork oil change: £200
One oil change: £50
Set of tyres. pretty much the same cost as the Sv.
Two front sprockets, a rear and a special renthal sprocket carrier: £170
Todays service: £650
Therefore we reckon the Duke will cost about an extra £450 every 12k. Or less than a tenner a week.
£650 ouch mind you for a ducati thats probably really good.
fizzwheel
15-11-08, 11:41 PM
I left there feeling I hadn't been shafted and that he really did care about customer service.
Same feeling that Liz and I had when we collected her 749S from Moto Rapido after having it serviced there.
Therefore we reckon the Duke will cost about an extra £450 every 12k. Or less than a tenner a week.
I've been saying for ages that they arent that much more expensive to run than a Jap bike. I really do think that the press hype this aspect Ducati ownership up...
Not bad for the price of living with so called 'Exotica'. I've been running a Duke for 18 months now and it's no problem if you look after it. It's also n worse to service then other bikes.
However I've got a Buell lined up which may not be cheap to run.
kwak zzr
15-11-08, 11:46 PM
my mates 06 buell xb12r hasn't cost anything yet, its been totally reliable.
My sv only costs me oil+filter, tyres, insurance and plugs every year. That way I can afford to do other things too.
the_lone_wolf
15-11-08, 11:57 PM
Therefore we reckon the Duke will cost about an extra £450 every 12k. Or less than a tenner a week.
in 12,000 miles i'll have spent more than £450 on oil alone for the KTM:smt120
DarrenSV650S
16-11-08, 12:01 AM
Two front sprockets?
It's costs like those that made me learn how to service and repair bikes myself. Now my biking costs are covered by doing work at cut down rates for my mates.
petevtwin650
16-11-08, 12:09 AM
Two front sprockets?
Changed to 14 tooth (15 is standard) early on and it needed changing after around 6k.
Changed to 14 tooth (15 is standard) early on and it needed changing after around 6k.
Don't go lower than 14 or the chain chews into the swingarm. Also, check the rear sprocket bolts regularly, they have a habit of winding out as well. At least they just fall out without hitting anything
ThEGr33k
16-11-08, 12:20 AM
Ouch... Mine:-
Major service £150 (inc oil)
Minor Oil and filters £40 do it myself. Oh yea baby. :D
Suppose £650 isnt bad :)
Dicky Ticker
16-11-08, 11:03 AM
Italian bikes,Italian cars and Italian women all need good servicing,and tend to be temper'an'mental. Having had the first and last I found the upkeep expensive so I have neither now:D
Don't go lower than 14 or the chain chews into the swingarm. Also, check the rear sprocket bolts regularly, they have a habit of winding out as well. At least they just fall out without hitting anything
Happened to me on the M1 when I had the Monster 900. Thankfully we'd spotted the problem while the bike was stopped for another reason, but all of the sprocket nuts were loose, and one was missing. There was a lovely chunk missing out of the swing arm too which had been made by the missing bolt in its' bid for freedom :sad:
petevtwin650
17-11-08, 10:54 AM
Don't go lower than 14 or the chain chews into the swingarm. Also, check the rear sprocket bolts regularly, they have a habit of winding out as well. At least they just fall out without hitting anything
Happened to me on the M1 when I had the Monster 900. Thankfully we'd spotted the problem while the bike was stopped for another reason, but all of the sprocket nuts were loose, and one was missing. There was a lovely chunk missing out of the swing arm too which had been made by the missing bolt in its' bid for freedom :sad:
The bolt issue must be on the twin arm swingers. On the single sided swingers the cush drive sleeves can back out ultimately destroying the flange on the hub. Without the flange you cannot adjust the chain, so a new hub is needed. £700. That's why a lot of people fit an aftermarket sprocket carrier which has a retention lip machined in to prevent that occurence.
Dicky Ticker
17-11-08, 12:27 PM
I find it amazing that,not just Ducati,but many manufacturers skip production costs that in the long run end up costing the buyer money,when for a few pence more at initial production the extra costs could be eradicated.
Two simple prime examples are the fender extender on the SV and on many others a rear hugger.
O.K. Everything is built to a cost but why at the cost of good engineering going awry for the extra few quid
454697819
18-11-08, 10:59 PM
when I serviced the ST it was only 82£ for the belts and everything (then 4 hours of me skinning my knuckles)
petevtwin650
27-04-09, 10:02 AM
First unscheduled expense. The Ohlins shock has developed a leak. We needed to get a heavier weight spring anyway, so we'll get that done as well. Ktech are doing it for 230 quid. Getting the shock out was a 20 minute job, eat your heart out LP :p, and we should get it back for Friday.
the_lone_wolf
27-04-09, 10:10 AM
First unscheduled expense. The Ohlins shock has developed a leak. We needed to get a heavier weight spring anyway
time to tell lissa to lay off the pies then?;)
yorkie_chris
27-04-09, 01:12 PM
It's costs like those that made me learn how to service and repair bikes myself. Now my biking costs are covered by doing work at cut down rates for my mates.
+1 Never paid a garage for labour except the odd time for tyres
I find it amazing that,not just Ducati,but many manufacturers skip production costs that in the long run end up costing the buyer money,when for a few pence more at initial production the extra costs could be eradicated.
Two simple prime examples are the fender extender on the SV and on many others a rear hugger.
O.K. Everything is built to a cost but why at the cost of good engineering going awry for the extra few quid
Some grease in the bearings would be a fine start!
Alpinestarhero
27-04-09, 02:38 PM
Some grease in the bearings would be a fine start!
+1 :smt041
time to tell lissa to lay off the pies then?;)
:smt098
petevtwin650
30-05-09, 03:11 PM
Well the Duke had it's MOT today.
The only issue was the rear brake switch which has been playing up. However it returned for duty just for the test. A new one is winging it's way to us. £16, not too bad and the first electrical failure.
The tester did a double take as jotted down the mileage and compared it with last years MOT. Over 14k covered :)
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i184/petevtwin650/Ducati/Ducatisti%20posts/Twomots-1.jpg
airbrush_assasin
30-05-09, 11:45 PM
Just a quick one, I'm a Ducati tech, trained 6 years at the factory in Bologna and was also invited on and attended the Desmocedici course ( the D16RR GP bike for those who dont know) Just came across your thread.. I would never replace just one belt, always a pair. Wasn't really clear on your post if only one was changed or if you had one set changed. Ducati service schedule recommends air filters changed every 6000 miles, unless you have the duke performance ones that are cleanable and re-useable.The reason dukes are "high maintenance" is the time consuming checks you have to do...like valve check, which in most cases requires the throttle bodies to be removed and once refitted, requires a throttle body set up, a couple of hours itself. Does sound a resonable price tho, I recently did a 749s for 18000miles, took 12 hours!!! Usually customers notice some difference when the throttle body set up has been done, as the bike is much crisper. After 07, service costs dropped dramatically, 1st service on a 1198s is now an hour including test!! Estimated around 80 quid. Enjoy your duke, but get the belts changed every 2 years or 12000 miles, which ever comes first....as 1500 quid per head in parts is a huge dent in the wallet when a belt snaps!!! Feel free to pm if you need advice on the duke, and look after her!! Also, try and get a test on the Streetfighter...its f u ckin COOOOL!!!!
The tester did a double take as jotted down the mileage and compared it with last years MOT. Over 14k covered :)
Tis a good effort that :cool:
petevtwin650
31-05-09, 05:42 AM
Just a quick one, I'm a Ducati tech, trained 6 years at the factory in Bologna and was also invited on and attended the Desmocedici course ( the D16RR GP bike for those who dont know) Just came across your thread.. I would never replace just one belt, always a pair. Wasn't really clear on your post if only one was changed or if you had one set changed. Ducati service schedule recommends air filters changed every 6000 miles, unless you have the duke performance ones that are cleanable and re-useable.The reason dukes are "high maintenance" is the time consuming checks you have to do...like valve check, which in most cases requires the throttle bodies to be removed and once refitted, requires a throttle body set up, a couple of hours itself. Does sound a resonable price tho, I recently did a 749s for 18000miles, took 12 hours!!! Usually customers notice some difference when the throttle body set up has been done, as the bike is much crisper. After 07, service costs dropped dramatically, 1st service on a 1198s is now an hour including test!! Estimated around 80 quid. Enjoy your duke, but get the belts changed every 2 years or 12000 miles, which ever comes first....as 1500 quid per head in parts is a huge dent in the wallet when a belt snaps!!! Feel free to pm if you need advice on the duke, and look after her!! Also, try and get a test on the Streetfighter...its f u ckin COOOOL!!!!
Thanks for your concern AA, but the belts were changed as a pair and in fact were changed again a couple of weeks ago as they'd done the 12k. Going back for the rest of the service in July. 1st available slot he had when I booked in April! Belt change was 150 quid. Like you say there are lots of checks and things like the fork oil get renewed on the 12k service so it's not quite as bad as it seems.
Streetfighter not for me and way too expensive. :cool:
ThEGr33k
31-05-09, 06:58 AM
Belts? he he
Why do they insist on using them still? Im sure any weight advantage is minimal, any power gain is also minimal but the pain in the ar$e effect is fairly large. Its one of the things that puts me off of a Duc...
petevtwin650
31-05-09, 07:59 AM
Belts? he he
Why do they insist on using them still? Im sure any weight advantage is minimal, any power gain is also minimal but the pain in the ar$e effect is fairly large. Its one of the things that puts me off of a Duc...
For most Ducati riders having the belts changed is a two yearly item, so no great biggy, plus they'd have to redesign part of the engine to allow camchains to run in oil. Plus no camchain tensioners to stop working. That does happen at least on some Jap engines.
ThEGr33k
31-05-09, 10:02 AM
For most Ducati riders having the belts changed is a two yearly item, so no great biggy, plus they'd have to redesign part of the engine to allow camchains to run in oil. Plus no camchain tensioners to stop working. That does happen at least on some Jap engines.
Aye, I guess for most of the Sunday crew your right... But I do pretty much the same milage as you and its something else to play about with. :rolleyes:
They used gears in the Desmosedici RR so why not in the other bikes? Not to worry, ill just have to get a Desmosedici RR :smt118
Alpinestarhero
31-05-09, 10:15 AM
They used gears in the Desmosedici RR so why not in the other bikes? Not to worry, ill just have to get a Desmosedici RR :smt118
Straight from the race bike isnt it? Gears are probably more expensive to develop (in terms of actualy developing them and also the rest of the engine) but I agree, gear-driven cams are just a brilliant, almost perfect solution. Its one of the reason I love pre-VTEC VFR's. And RC's. And SP1 / SP2's :D
yorkie_chris
31-05-09, 11:30 AM
For most Ducati riders having the belts changed is a two yearly item, so no great biggy, plus they'd have to redesign part of the engine to allow camchains to run in oil. Plus no camchain tensioners to stop working. That does happen at least on some Jap engines.
Belt must have some sort of tensioning device though?
Alpinestarhero
31-05-09, 11:55 AM
Belt must have some sort of tensioning device though?
I imagine its like a car belt system, with one roller acting as a tensioner?
And as its on the utside of the engine, is there not greater chance of it getting stuck due to road crap (im thinking of when riding in wet weather, water getting in from the spray and then depositing dirt and other stuff)?
ThEGr33k
31-05-09, 01:20 PM
I think they are usually covered alpine... as to how well sealed this it I cant say. :rolleyes:
airbrush_assasin
03-06-09, 08:49 PM
The desmocedici is awsome!! For your money you get the 2006 MotoGP bike with the wet brake set up. Here is me on one, 1st test after PDI...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEnrh5T2oJ0
Never had a problem with the belt system, even on really high mileage bikes, as long as they are regularly checked and changed when suposed too... changing cam chains on an SV650 takes me half a working day, I can do belts on a 999 in an hour! Still, I do own an SV,lol
airbrush_assasin
03-06-09, 08:52 PM
Alpinestar hero, the belts dont get wet or any road grim in them, only really found dust in the belt covers. What annoys me is the muppets who put open covers on the dry clutches, they are noisy enough with the closed covers!!!
petevtwin650
11-07-09, 06:28 PM
Righto, just to update this thread.
Just had it serviced at 30k.
Needed one rocker (Jeff, the authorised technician, supplied a second hand one at 50quid. New they're a 100.)
Front wheel and head bearings.
Needle bearing that the clutch push rod runs in and new push rod.
New front pads (Jeff supplied all 4 for 25 quid)
New fork oil
Full service less belts as they'd been changed 3.5k earlier.
Total cost £885.
Jeff advised that the clutch plates and basket were past their best, but I declined to have new ones fitted. The basket is original, well I can't find a receipt for one, and the plates have done 21k. So they've done well. Hopefully Ebay will provide them at a reasonable price.
And even after paying all that dosh I still don't feel like I've been shafted. Jeff is a genuine guy who really does try to help you wherever he can.
So the costs for this one have mounted up and the next one won't be cheap either, but the fact that we couldn't wait to get back on it today shows how much we enjoy it.
Alpinestarhero
11-07-09, 06:35 PM
Wow, this guy sounds like he really gives bikes a proper going over. I think that when you ride a bike so often, it is essential to be able to trust a mechanic who will do those sorts of checks and replace those sorts of parts...it dosnt matter on the cost so much, because there is a safety issue
:smt050
so thats £285 in parts and £600 in labour costs...
think i'll study servicing ducati's..
petevtwin650
11-07-09, 06:46 PM
so thats £285 in parts and £600 in labour costs...
think i'll study servicing ducati's..
£250 parts
£520 labour
£115 the governments slice :mad:
the_lone_wolf
11-07-09, 06:51 PM
...even after paying all that dosh I still don't feel like I've been shafted...
That'll be the "Ducati" brand "Customer Anal Grease"
Look on the receipt and it'll be somewhere on there dude...;)
yorkie_chris
12-07-09, 12:12 PM
so thats £285 in parts and £600 in labour costs...
think i'll study servicing ducati's..
Aye!
Does he have to apply to the London mint for that license to print money?
thefallenangel
12-07-09, 12:34 PM
how many people have put an SV in for a service with the bill coming back over £500 let alone £825?
how many people have put an SV in for a service with the bill coming back over £500 let alone £825?
We have! :rolleyes:
All but a grand the last time at JHS, and the bike was a bag of ***** afterwards!
fizzwheel
12-07-09, 05:24 PM
how many people have put an SV in for a service with the bill coming back over £500 let alone £825?
IIRC I had a bill for around £800 once for my SV...
I dont see why it matters to you non Ducati owners anyway, its not like your paying the bill for the servicing anyway is it ;)
yorkie_chris
12-07-09, 06:19 PM
We have! :rolleyes:
All but a grand the last time at JHS, and the bike was a bag of ***** afterwards!
That was tuning though, which is p*ssing money against a wall whatever bike it is!
That's a fair chunk of money, but it's clearly worth it to you as you love the duc so much. At least with you having it serviced well its likely to carry on going for many more tens of thousands of miles :)
yorkie_chris
12-07-09, 06:52 PM
That's a fair chunk of money, but it's clearly worth it to you as you love the duc so much. At least with you having it serviced well its likely to carry on going for many more tens of thousands of miles :)
Aye amen to that.
a few 10,000 shouldn't take them long!
thefallenangel
12-07-09, 08:31 PM
IIRC I had a bill for around £800 once for my SV...
I dont see why it matters to you non Ducati owners anyway, its not like your paying the bill for the servicing anyway is it ;)
No true. I guess the SV is the cheap ***** who only asks for Tyres, oil and filters and will keep going for long time. Although she does beg for her clearances every so often.
petevtwin650
14-07-09, 03:06 PM
That's a fair chunk of money, but it's clearly worth it to you as you love the duc so much. At least with you having it serviced well its likely to carry on going for many more tens of thousands of miles :)
Aye amen to that.
a few 10,000 shouldn't take them long!
Well that's the plan. So long as we don't sell it next month or whatever. The expense comes from having the cam gear apart at every service. That more than likely accounts for 3 hours labour, but if a worn rocker is found in time then it saves getting a new cam (or cams) which is quite expensive.
Some of the stuff I could have done myself, but it's the piece of mind that only a experienced careful mechanic can give.
petevtwin650
14-09-09, 07:41 AM
Right just notched up the 20k since the Duke joined our happy home
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i184/petevtwin650/Ducati/Ducatisti%20posts/Speedoreading32816.jpg
She still goes like a train and despite being used all weathers scrubs up really nicely. The nose cone is peppered by stones and of course the lens got smashed but that's part and parcel of riding these days. We bought a mint OEM yellow V piece from ebay for under a tenner to replaced the badly scarred Carbon one. Fits better too. Still looking to replace the screen for a black double bubble to match the lens covers and give me a bit more protection.
Apart from the rear brake switch failing(19quid), and the Ohlins shock needing a quick bit of work, nothing of note has broken. The clutch is still working although noisy as hell, but it has done well over 20k. Two rockers replaced so far, and Jeff thinks new collets will be in order on the next service.
I bought a new reg/rec off Ebay as a spare, but so far the original one has been as good as gold and the battery is holding up well too apparently.
So there you are, apart from scheduled servicing, which has made my eyes water a bit I must admit, the bike hasn't cost too much to run. It usually does 140 miles before the light comes on. The rear Pilot Road 2CT has done 6k and the front 10k (well recommended) and it's had two sets of rear pads and two sets of fronts, although one replacement set only lasted 5k :(.
The pleasure and pride we get from owning and riding this bike is immense.
Roll on the next 10k
Dave20046
14-09-09, 08:06 AM
Right just notched up the 20k since the Duke joined our happy home
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i184/petevtwin650/Ducati/Ducatisti%20posts/Speedoreading32816.jpg
She still goes like a train and despite being used all weathers scrubs up really nicely. The nose cone is peppered by stones and of course the lens got smashed but that's part and parcel of riding these days. We bought a mint OEM yellow V piece from ebay for under a tenner to replaced the badly scarred Carbon one. Fits better too. Still looking to replace the screen for a black double bubble to match the lens covers and give me a bit more protection.
Apart from the rear brake switch failing(19quid), and the Ohlins shock needing a quick bit of work, nothing of note has broken. The clutch is still working although noisy as hell, but it has done well over 20k. Two rockers replaced so far, and Jeff thinks new collets will be in order on the next service.
I bought a new reg/rec off Ebay as a spare, but so far the original one has been as good as gold and the battery is holding up well too apparently.
So there you are, apart from scheduled servicing, which has made my eyes water a bit I must admit, the bike hasn't cost too much to run. It usually does 140 miles before the light comes on. The rear Pilot Road 2CT has done 6k and the front 10k (well recommended) and it's had two sets of rear pads and two sets of fronts, although one replacement set only lasted 5k :(.
The pleasure and pride we get from owning and riding this bike is immense.
Roll on the next 10k
Good on ya :thumbsup:
This thread (apart from maybe the parting with money bit) & after sitting on the bike make me really want one!
Do you do much 'round towning'?
Glad to hear you are both still loving it :)
You must be one of the higher milers on Ducatisti?
Biker Biggles
14-09-09, 10:43 AM
BB junior has a 748
Recently did a 1800 mile French tour with no issues and the bike is on about 24000 miles.
suzsv650
14-09-09, 11:07 AM
We have! :rolleyes:
All but a grand the last time at JHS, and the bike was a bag of ***** afterwards!
Thats JHS for you. All they know is race race race race race race race
Ceri JC
14-09-09, 02:20 PM
I've been saying for ages that they arent that much more expensive to run than a Jap bike. I really do think that the press hype this aspect Ducati ownership up...
One of the mags did a piece about a year back that showed how Ducati's spare parts were better priced than Jap bikes'. They compared the things damaged in a "typical" crash: indicators, bar ends, levers, etc. and the total cost of repair was less on the Ducati.
petevtwin650
14-09-09, 10:37 PM
You must be one of the higher milers on Ducatisti?
I reckon there must be more Skip, plus some of the "5 previous owner bikes with only 5k" may not be what they seem.
Good on ya :thumbsup:
This thread (apart from maybe the parting with money bit) & after sitting on the bike make me really want one!
Do you do much 'round towning'?
Well I don't commute on it Dave if that's what you mean, but it's done town stuff, sure. It's a big twin so it's never gonna be the easiest plus the mirrors are useless but apart from that it copes fine.
748s aren't that expensive and as BB's lad has shown, they are reliable too.
One of the mags did a piece about a year back that showed how Ducati's spare parts were better priced than Jap bikes'. They compared the things damaged in a "typical" crash: indicators, bar ends, levers, etc. and the total cost of repair was less on the Ducati.
Some of the parts for the 996 go back nearly 10 years so the prices have only risen with inflation it seems. Also Duke use a lot of common parts and use parts found on other makes too.
Oil filters are under a tenner, aftermarket Pipercross airfilters (pair) 19 quid. Indys are around a tenner too. Levers are expensive at over 50 quid each, but I bought a pair of black fancy Ducati Perfomance levers for 29 quid off Ebay. Bar ends are plastic and only a couple of quid, but the clip-ons are fragile. However they are just a tube that slots into fork mount, so not hugely expensive either.
Alpinestarhero
15-09-09, 10:48 AM
I rmember MCN did an article on the price of spares about maybe 5 years ago. List price of a CBR600rr was...what, 7k then? they calculated (must have taken them a while harharhar) that to build one from the spares would set one back over £25,000
:eek:
Anyway, pete, lissa, great to hear the ducati is going strong. I guess its true what they say...use your duke, and it wont break.
Dave20046
15-09-09, 10:50 AM
Well I don't commute on it Dave if that's what you mean, but it's done town stuff, sure. It's a big twin so it's never gonna be the easiest plus the mirrors are useless but apart from that it copes fine.
748s aren't that expensive and as BB's lad has shown, they are reliable too.
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No I doubt I'd be communing but I read they are absolute agony 'round town' just wondered if that meant literally riding through a town to get to the good bits! The 748 is definitiley a bike I'd consider next year.
Mr Speirs
15-09-09, 11:28 AM
I struggled with my bike in 30/40s when I first got it, and to be fair I still find it uncomfortable in towns and low speed limits. Not a bike I would recommend a town commuter but I don't commute on mine and spend as little time as possible in built up areas :) so it's okay.
petevtwin650
15-09-09, 11:45 AM
No I doubt I'd be communing but I read they are absolute agony 'round town' just wondered if that meant literally riding through a town to get to the good bits! The 748 is definitiley a bike I'd consider next year.
They're also supposed to be not good at touring, or two up, but if you're prepared to adapt and persevere they can be ok. Problem is Dave, you're taller than me, but there are handlebar riser kits out there.
Problem with a 748 can be that they are often owned by the younger generation who haven't got the funds or experience to service the bike properly so it could be a moneypit. Having said that, we were lucky with our 996, there doesn't seem to be a guaranteed formula for a reliable Duke.
petevtwin650
15-09-09, 11:47 AM
Anyway, pete, lissa, great to hear the ducati is going strong. I guess its true what they say...use your duke, and it wont break.
Just lucky i reckon Matt. Always cross all our fingers before we go out :)
I struggled with my bike in 30/40s when I first got it, and to be fair I still find it uncomfortable in towns and low speed limits. Not a bike I would recommend a town commuter but I don't commute on mine and spend as little time as possible in built up areas :) so it's okay.
But that you rarely go above 30 and 40 anyway :p
punyXpress
16-09-09, 08:36 PM
Hey Pete!
Have you noticed any difference yet since the rear shock fix? Perhaps you need a few more miles to really notice.
petevtwin650
18-09-09, 07:47 AM
Hey Pete!
Have you noticed any difference yet since the rear shock fix? Perhaps you need a few more miles to really notice.
Well David, the bizarre thing was, I had the best ride back from the Peaks down some nice fast roads. The Duke was handling pretty well. Of course the settings are different now so I've got to try and find the sweet spot again.
petevtwin650
16-01-10, 06:51 PM
Bike is in for another service next week, but seeing as how the weather has taken a turn for the better in the Midlands we de-Dukedolphed it and got it ready for a run out tomorrow.
We did around 700 miles in December with the furry panels on so hadn't taken them off to wash all the muck off. However happily the bike is unscathed under the plastics, so after cleaning the salt of the exhaust system I took it outside to burn off the WD40 and took a couple of short vids to show how it has fared so far.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i184/petevtwin650/Ducati/Videos/th_ducativid001.jpg (http://s72.photobucket.com/albums/i184/petevtwin650/Ducati/Videos/?action=view¤t=ducativid001.flv)
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i184/petevtwin650/Ducati/Videos/th_ducativid002.jpg (http://s72.photobucket.com/albums/i184/petevtwin650/Ducati/Videos/?action=view¤t=ducativid002.flv)
looks verry clean Pete.
may i suggest that your battery needs a danger 'nuclear' sign on it.
Looking good, got my bike back on the road again now, can't wait for some more good rides back from te peaks ;)
Mr Speirs
16-01-10, 10:30 PM
I haven't even looked at my bike since that Toy Run!!! Must see if the battery will start it :)
Picking up my other Firey Italian Steed 2moro too :)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201001349851491/sort/priceasc/usedcars/make/alfa_romeo/model/156/price-to/2000/page/7/postcode/nn46ds/radius/100?previous=%2Fsearch%2Fresults%2Fusedcars%2Fpost code%2Fnn46ds%2Fradius%2F100%2Fmake%2Falfa_romeo%2 Fmodel%2F156%2Fprice-to%2F2000%2Fpage%2F7%2Fsort%2Fpriceasc&logcode=p
petevtwin650
17-01-10, 06:24 AM
I haven't even looked at my bike since that Toy Run!!! Must see if the battery will start it :)
Picking up my other Firey Italian Steed 2moro too :)
I can't believe that Chris[-(
Blimey, that's a lot of car for the money. You bringing that to Jeff's next weekend? :D
petevtwin650
17-01-10, 06:27 AM
looks verry clean Pete.
may i suggest that your battery needs a danger 'nuclear' sign on it.
Don't think there is room for any more stickers on it, Bibio :wink:
Looking good, got my bike back on the road again now, can't wait for some more good rides back from te peaks ;)
Proof that you don't need fancy luggage to carry a sleeping bag eh G? :smt042
Mr Speirs
18-01-10, 08:53 AM
I can't believe that Chris[-(
Blimey, that's a lot of car for the money. You bringing that to Jeff's next weekend? :D
Yeah mucho car for the monies. Na Kerri will be in her KA as she can't get insured on the Alfa.
I picked it up yesterday. There is a small problem with it, there is a loose connector which just needs tying up, occasionally sends the car into limp home mode :).
petevtwin650
25-01-10, 06:21 PM
Well sad bad news.
Our latin lovely needs new crankcases, which together with the labour, will cost around £2.5k :smt119
Seems the engines aren't totally bullet proof.
Some deep thinking now needed.:smt087
Biker Biggles
25-01-10, 06:42 PM
I thought it was just going in for a service?Whats wrong with it?
maviczap
25-01-10, 06:43 PM
Well sad bad news.
Our latin lovely needs new crankcases, which together with the labour, will cost around £2.5k :smt119
Seems the engines are totally bullet proof.
Some deep thinking now needed.:smt087
H'mm not good news Pete. Are the costs at main dealer prices?
If they are, then I know about a guy in Ipswich who used to be a Ducati spanner man. But he's gone solo now, so he'd be a lot cheaper than a main dealer.
He fixed one of my guys engines, and not expensive. My guy dropped the engine off to him.
Let me know & I can find out.
Gutted for you. What's wrong with it?
speedplay
25-01-10, 06:47 PM
Our latin lovely needs new crankcases, which together with the labour, will cost around £2.5k :smt119
Bugger :(
Proof that you don't need fancy luggage to carry a sleeping bag eh G? :smt042
hell no, no fancy lugguage for me lol... Won't be doing it again Ming :P
Well sad bad news.
Our latin lovely needs new crankcases, which together with the labour, will cost around £2.5k :smt119
Seems the engines are totally bullet proof.
Some deep thinking now needed.:smt087
That's not good, you could potentially buy A cheap bike off eBay and break it? Possibly make profit.
For the impatient amongst us, I went on ducatisti:
Pete
Our 996 was having it's service today, and we got the dreaded call. Needs new crankcases http://www.ducatisti.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif. The gearbox shaft to the clutch has worn an eliptical and un-repairable hole in the case.
The job is going to cost around £2.5k, which we can't afford, so it looks like our Ducati dream is on hold for the moment.
Seems 36k miles was too much for it.
yorkie_chris
25-01-10, 07:00 PM
These wops not believe in bearings then?
Strip it down and put an oversize bearing in. Need to bore out cases but be right.
Pete I wouldn't normally associate "it's totally f*cked" with a bulletproof engine :-P
Or better yet take the lead of the guy on OSS who put a proper engine in a 916 frame.
fizzwheel
25-01-10, 07:03 PM
Our latin lovely needs new crankcases, which together with the labour, will cost around £2.5k :smt119
Well you can always get an engine out of Massey Fergusson and pop it in there, well you do like to run it on Diesel dont you ;)
Ah Pete & Lissa I feel your pain, that must be well and truely gutting to end up with such a big big bill :(
yorkie_chris
25-01-10, 07:08 PM
Got to be taking the p*ss with £2.5K though, I know you like to pee money against the wall with this thing but here's a set of cases
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ducati-916-Engine-Casings_W0QQitemZ190362319675QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK _Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item2c527a7b3b
It's not a massive job to rebuild an engine, £100 max on a gasket kit, build your motor back up in fresh cases with new gearbox bearings.
I really need to get into th ducati business if owners are f*ckin dense enough to pay £2.5K for a days work ;-)
Mr Speirs
25-01-10, 07:10 PM
I think that's YC's way of saying don't pay £2.5k. Come to me n ill do it for £100 :)
nice one yc.
yorkie_chris
25-01-10, 07:17 PM
Lol I think there's more chance of seeing the Queen in a channel 5 soft porno than Pete letting me and my collection of hammers near his duc
Mr Speirs
25-01-10, 07:20 PM
You have a collection? I thought you just had a hammer shaped toolcase.
yorkie_chris
25-01-10, 07:23 PM
I have 3; fine, medium and coarse.
Mr Speirs
25-01-10, 07:24 PM
Ah...Big, Bigger and Biggest.
Seggons
25-01-10, 09:04 PM
Gutted to hear the news Pete and Lissa. I know how you both love that bike and took great care in it.
So when are you buying a pointy SV thou? ;)
dizzyblonde
25-01-10, 09:26 PM
If they are, then I know about a guy in Ipswich who used to be a Ducati spanner man. But he's gone solo now, so he'd be a lot cheaper than a main dealer.
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One of my very good friends, who is also a friend of DoubleD on here has two Dukes an S4R and an 900SS. He uses an ex Ducati bloke to service and do big work on his bikes. Steve lives in Blackpool so I reckon his Duke guy ain't that far away. Think I've mentioned him before.
Could always give him a shout and see if his cheaper duke solo bloke can do something? If Ipswich is too far away?
Really sorry to hear the news :( 36k doesnt seem that much - is it a common thing?
So when are you buying a pointy SV thou? ;)
I came round to it so I am sure they will eventually ;)
454697819
25-01-10, 09:40 PM
I have 3; fine, medium and coarse.
Weird I have 4
Fine, Medium, Coarse and Big Kahuna Hammer, reserved for really stuck things or things which are already fooked
ps, sorry to hear about the duke, is that a 916 engine? i ask as I am looking at the st3?
yorkie_chris
25-01-10, 09:43 PM
Big Kahuna Hammer, reserved for really stuck things or things which are already fooked
i have gas-axe for that :viking:
I think it is very similar motor to 916. Basically if you buy anything from wops you're screwed. Unless you have the good sense to buy a wop bike with a suzuki motor in it :smt023
454697819
25-01-10, 09:45 PM
I have 3; fine, medium and coarse.
i have gas-axe for that :viking:
I think it is very similar motor to 916. Basically if you buy anything from wops you're screwed. Unless you have the good sense to buy a wop bike with a suzuki motor in it :smt023
uh ha... touche..! the gas axe is saved for when i accidently wish to claim on the insurance.. :-)
what is a WOP ?
yorkie_chris
25-01-10, 09:48 PM
Something that smells like dolmio and vespas and once surrendered to their own shoes.
petevtwin650
26-01-10, 03:48 PM
Thanks people for your comments, mostly sympathetic except YC :p
It's a 996, numbers, I think the ST3 has the 916 engine or maybe even an aircooled jobby.
The guy is an independent. The cases, gasket set, new bearings and shells (might as well replace them), oil, filter and antifreeze come to a grand, the labour £1100 quid, but it'll be better than original, then the dreaded VAT, £400.
The cases from a 916 won't do as the cylinder stud spacing is different although there is a s/h set of 996 ones for 300 quid. However new ones are only 500 quid so it seems daft to skimp there. Never very keen on s/h engines unless you know where they came from, and 996 ones aren't exactly common anyway. :(
It has been suggested we that buy a curvy and get back on the road that way and save the money for the surgery, and that's one thing we're considering. Another is to not have anything, so not go out for 5 months, save all our extra cash, and get the bike ready for GMIII, however Jeff, the mechanic, has just contacted us with an idea that saves quite a bit of money. More pondering :smt087
454697819
26-01-10, 03:57 PM
Thanks people for your comments, mostly sympathetic except YC :p
It's a 996, numbers, I think the ST3 has the 916 engine or maybe even an aircooled jobby.
The guy is an independent. The cases, gasket set, new bearings and shells (might as well replace them), oil, filter and antifreeze come to a grand, the labour £1100 quid, but it'll be better than original, then the dreaded VAT, £400.
The cases from a 916 won't do as the cylinder stud spacing is different although there is a s/h set of 996 ones for 300 quid. However new ones are only 500 quid so it seems daft to skimp there. Never very keen on s/h engines unless you know where they came from, and 996 ones aren't exactly common anyway. :(
It has been suggested we that buy a curvy and get back on the road that way and save the money for the surgery, and that's one thing we're considering. Another is to not have anything, so not go out for 5 months, save all our extra cash, and get the bike ready for GMIII, however Jeff, the mechanic, has just contacted us with an idea that saves quite a bit of money. More pondering :smt087
I see thought it was a 916, Sorry to hear about these problems, such a shame. Hope you have an affordable plan soon.
speedplay
26-01-10, 03:57 PM
TL engine transplant....
Luckypants
26-01-10, 04:05 PM
Oh you guys, so sorry to read of your woes. I hope your mechanic's latest plan sorts this out for you.
Another is to not have anything, so not go out for 5 months
That just doesn't seem like something you and Lissa could cope with... There must be another way!
That just doesn't seem like something you and Lissa could cope with... There must be another way!
Was thinking the same, surely there is no way you could handle that!
Maybe go the sv1000 route, and be happy you've had the chance to own and enjoy a duke... I for one would find it difficult to enjoy riding a machine again as I would be in constant fear of another £2k+ repairbill.
Maybe go the sv1000 route
I am a total convert - I love my 'thou - if you do go down the new bike route - dont dis-count one just because its a pointy - they are a truly great bike :smt055
missyburd
26-01-10, 05:04 PM
It has been suggested we that buy a curvy and get back on the road that way and save the money for the surgery, and that's one thing we're considering. Another is to not have anything, so not go out for 5 months, save all our extra cash, and get the bike ready for GMIII
Gutted for you both :-( Do you honestly think you'd be able to keep off the road on 2 wheels for 5 months???:smt119 .... I hope Jeff's had a brainwave...although the curvy idea ain't bad but don't be thinking YC will be giving you those race cams back :-P
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