4th Dimension repairers

[FishyMug]

Anyone had any experience with them? I think they're based near Sunbury. Thats where my SV is going after a silly moo ran into the back of me :mad:

[Drew Carey]

Yup, mine is being delivered back tommorow. They were actually quite quick doing the repairs once they did the quote. Must admit took them a while getting the quote done.

My accident was on the 1st October so has taken a while, but its just a case of how many they have.

They seemed good to talk to, and were happy for me to cell for updates when I wanted. Also, the exhaust has a tiny dink on it and they can't get the Street Extreme from Scorpion quick enough so are posting it to me once it has arrived.

[Dappa D]

early stages yet mate but i had a crash on 6th of this month, they collected my bike on 14th and it went to surrey. took a while to get the bike due to me not being able to get to where the bike was but they were calling me every other day so seem ok so far.

[FishyMug]

Thx guys for your replies, so far i've been quite impressed with Bennetts and Bikers Legal Direct, I had the accident on Friday 14th, and the very next day my bike was collected by BLD and a Bandit with 91 miles on the clock was dropped off for me :)

[ScottishRawker]

i had an accident 1 august 07, and i was suppost to get my bike repaired by 4th dimension, but as i had a hoilday booked and i left for holiday about 4 or 5 days after the accident, they couldnt someone to pick up the bike before this and then wouldn't pick it up or repair it once i got back as they will only do it within the week or so?

i wasn't impressed at all!

Adam

[Monkey_SDMF]

I had an accident on 21st July. Third party at fault. Called Bennetts, loan bike arranged, arrived two days later. I only let it go back last week. Third party (Churchill) were crap at sorting the claim. I claimed £1900 for my written off curvy and they paid out £14000 in hire bike fees for a loan CBR600RR. Oh yes....

Ever wondered why your premium is so expensive.....useless idiots.

4th dimension were fairly good. assessed the damage, collected the bike quickly, never got it back but then I didn;t really want it back.....

[Drew Carey]

Just as an update. Got my bike back this morning. The work they had done was very good and it all looks very tidy. They had even cleaned and polished the bike!!!!!. Must admit, apart from the time, can't fault my experience with them.

[FishyMug]

Update - 4th dimension have called me today, offering the prospect of a 'non' original silencer, is there anything to avoid? i've heard carbon cans aren't too clever with vtwin, and i'm not sold on a stubby. i don't know what make they're proposing, they're getting back to me once they've costed the job properly.

[FishyMug]

Update - Its going to be 1st week in January before i get it back, something to do with "sourcing the parts". lmao. they're fitting a stainless can from carbon can company, anyone got one?

[Drew Carey]

Bout the same mine took, but they still hadn't recieved my Scorpion can by the end so they are posting that to me once recieved.

[Dangerous Dave]

they're fitting a stainless can from carbon can company
Good cans, just make sure the one they get is a road legal one with a removable baffle.

Sounds like 4thD are trying to make some money out of it too, if the bike was fitted with the £600 OEM exhaust then that is what was quoted for and not a £120 aftermarket one.

[FishyMug]

Good cans, just make sure the one they get is a road legal one with a removable baffle.

Sounds like 4thD are trying to make some money out of it too, if the bike was fitted with the £600 OEM exhaust then that is what was quoted for and not a £120 aftermarket one.

They told me the OEM silencer would push the bike into the 'non-viable' repair status, whether thats true or not i'll prob never know. tbh i was thinking of putting an aftermarket can on soon anyway, so maybe they've done me a favour :cool:

[Dangerous Dave]

They told me the OEM silencer would push the bike into the 'non-viable' repair status, whether thats true or not i'll prob never know. tbh i was thinking of putting an aftermarket can on soon anyway, so maybe they've done me a favour :cool:
Aye it benefits you if that was a future plan, the quote is done on replacement parts not repaired or swapped parts.

[FishyMug]

Good news! got the bike back on xmas eve, all ok except for the fact there are no BSI stamps on the can....DOH! which i guess means its not road legal. 4th dimension are looking into it after the xmas hols :mad:

[Spikenipple]

Does it have an E stamp?

[Dappa D]

mine came back from 4th d aswell on xmas eve, good you got it back fella

[Lozzo]

You don't legally need any markings on the can as long as it is quiet enough to satisfy an MOT tester.

[Dangerous Dave]

Good news lads, hope you can enjoy them on the road soon....

You don't legally need any markings on the can as long as it is quiet enough to satisfy an MOT tester.
Needs either a 'BS' or a 'E' markings in the eyes of the plod, no marking is the same as 'Race Use' or 'Not Road Legal' now. But as you said, a decent MOT tester will let it pass.

[Lozzo]

I'm pretty sure that's not the case any more. The law changed a little while back.

[Dangerous Dave]

I'm pretty sure that's not the case any more. The law changed a little while back.
Could someone tell the Dorset Police that please, my M4 has no markings (American exhaust).

[FishyMug]

It has no markings whatsoever, i'm doubtful it'll pass an MOT and i certainly couldn't explain my way out of of paper bag if i was stopped, which is almost guaranteed as the can sounds fekkin awesome. lol i'll let 4th Dimension sort this one out...........watch it here! :cheers:

[Lozzo]

The markings have no bearing on whether it is MOTable or not, unless it says 'Not for road use' or similar. If it has no markings at all and is quiet enough then no MOT station has the right to fail it. If your MOT man doubts this, then remind him where on the internet the MOT Testers Manual is and tell him to read it before printing the MOT off.

I've found that rather than have to go through this palaver it's easier to find an MOT tester who isn't a moron.

As far as the law are concerned, when was the last time you saw E markings or anything like them on a car or truck exhaust, they don't have any and bikes don't need them either.

[FishyMug]

Thx Lozzo, i'll report back how i get on

[FishyMug]

The markings have no bearing on whether it is MOTable or not, unless it says 'Not for road use' or similar. If it has no markings at all and is quiet enough then no MOT station has the right to fail it. If your MOT man doubts this, then remind him where on the internet the MOT Testers Manual is and tell him to read it before printing the MOT off.

I've found that rather than have to go through this palaver it's easier to find an MOT tester who isn't a moron.

As far as the law are concerned, when was the last time you saw E markings or anything like them on a car or truck exhaust, they don't have any and bikes don't need them either.

The bikes not due an MOT until May, by which time it would be a bit late to go back to the repairers. I'm hoping they either replace it with an properly stamped version or some sort of certification from CCC, at the end of the day, the bike was 100% road legal before the accident, and I should be re-assured that its legal after the repair. After all the other party accepted all the responsibilty for the accident

[Dangerous Dave]

the bike was 100% road legal before the accident, and I should be re-assured that its legal after the repair.
This is your argument as the bike should be returned to a road legal specification regardless, even if the bike was fitted with a 'Not For Road Use' exhaust at the time of the accident.

Lozzo have got a link to the no 'BS' or 'E' markings is okay, might come in handy.

[FishyMug]

Found this little nugget of information :-

Annex E: The MCI Guide to Moped and Motorcycle Exhaust System Markings

Aim

The aim of this guide is to assist police officers identify illegal exhaust systems with a view to rectification or prosecution.


http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/cyclingandmotorcycling/interimreportoftheadvisorygr4639?page=12

Would seem to indicate in table 2, item 6 that markings are a legal requirement.

[thefallenangel]

just get 4th dimensions to state it on any invoice they give you when they return the bike so it's on their head if it isn't.

[Dangerous Dave]

Would seem to indicate in table 2, item 6 that markings are a legal requirement.
Thats what I thought, and having no markings is the same as having "Race Use Only" or "Not For Road Use" stamped on it.

just get 4th dimensions to state it on any invoice they give you when they return the bike so it's on their head if it isn't.
Nope, won't work as it is the responsibilty of the vehicle operator to insure it is road legal/fit.

[FishyMug]

Final update - 4th Dimension have replaced the can with a stamped one. Their customer services (Neil, I have been dealing with) have been excellent, I voiced my concerns to them, they listened, and they dealt with it with the minimum of fuss, always having my interests foremost and i can't fault their workmanship. If I'm ever unfortunate to have the need of their services again, i'll be happy if my bike goes to them. :D

[Dappa D]

glad you got it sorted fella