Vista Wireless Network Problems...

[the_lone_wolf]

Well I recently upgraded my computer and thought I'd give Vista a spin as we're at SP1 and the kinks are mostly ironed out, so now running Home Premium x64, however it doesn't seem to want to play nicely with my existing router and network, i know there's some networking type on here so i'm begging for help with this as it's massively frustrating

Hardware:
Netgear DG834GT Router w. latest firmware
Netgear WG311v3 w. latest driver for Vista

Now, the computer first installed the network card fine when i set up Vista, found the driver and all was peachy until about 3 hours after installing and setting up the wireless went down, there were two networks in the "Network and Sharing Centre" - one private with the name of my wireless network and one "Unidentified Public Network" - The connection was "Local only" meaning i could connect to the router and ping other computers on the network but not connect to anything beyond the router, no internet.

If I used a LAN cable everything worked fine, full connection to the internet but wireless was a no-go. I finally "solved" the problem by uninstalling the wireless card and then reinstalling it, and that worked overnight until i restarted the computer and now it's refusing to even connect to the network while security is enabled, claiming "wireless authentication failed because of a timeout"

So, with encryption on the WLAN (WPA-PSK) it doesn't connect, but if i disable encryption it works fine, at the moment i'm running unencrypted with MAC filtering in place but i don't want to have to run unsecured just because vista is being a ****

help oh knowledgeable network techs of the org, i know you're out there:smt024

[the_lone_wolf]

sonnovabitch - for some reason vista was using AES instead of TKIP like every other bit of hardware on the network defaulted to

lets see how long this lasts...:rolleyes:

[ThEGr33k]

Hmmm hope its all good. Vista sucks tbh. :( :p

[the_lone_wolf]

Hmmm hope its all good. Vista sucks tbh. :( :p

it doesn't when you have the resources to throw at it, i'm running a quad core processor with 4GB ram and except for the network and another issue of it not letting utorrent exclusively access the HDD it's been flawless, fast and very good to look at, i was expecting more problems from changing to a new OS and going 64bit at the same time but it's been relatively smooth

survived two reboots now, a new record

just have to do something about the case temps, my GPU is hitting 75deg whilst idle:smt120

[kwak zzr]

i had problems running vista wireless but my router was the wireless G+ and i was slightly out of range, the pc said i had a good signal but while messing around with the wireless dongle i got a good signal and no problems from then on.

[ThEGr33k]

it doesn't when you have the resources to throw at it, i'm running a quad core processor with 4GB ram and except for the network and another issue of it not letting utorrent exclusively access the HDD it's been flawless, fast and very good to look at, i was expecting more problems from changing to a new OS and going 64bit at the same time but it's been relatively smooth

survived two reboots now, a new record

just have to do something about the case temps, my GPU is hitting 75deg whilst idle:smt120

Well I got a pair of computers that could run Vista no problem. I dont see the point though DX 10 runs slower than DX 9 (lose FPS) and the gain in detail is minimal...

My E6600 peaks at 45*C on full load and 35 idle... My Q6600 idles at 30*C and peaks at 40*C. (at 100% stress testing) You have issues :-? Get one of these (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/127427) if it'll fit :D Its stays sooooooo cool its mental! :)

What you using to check temps? http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ thats the one you want ;)

[the_lone_wolf]

Well I got a pair of computers that could run Vista no problem. I dont see the point though DX 10 runs slower than DX 9 (lose FPS) and the gain in detail is minimal...

My E6600 peaks at 45*C on full load and 35 idle... My Q6600 idles at 30*C and peaks at 40*C. (at 100% stress testing) You have issues :-? Get one of these (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/127427) if it'll fit :D Its stays sooooooo cool its mental! :)

What you using to check temps? http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ thats the one you want ;)

Speedfan temps:


CPU:
39
Cores 0, 1, 2, 3:
44, 44, 48, 42
System:
41
GPU:
74

Load temps:
CPU:
55
Cores 0, 1, 2, 3
57, 56, 59, 54
System:
41
GPU:
80-85

i just took the box apart and reduced the amount of thermal paste and the temps have dropped only ~3 degrees across the board, but i already have a Thermalright Ultra Extreme 120, which is pretty much the best air cooler you can buy right now

might just watercool it for a laugh...

[dizzyblonde]

vista works fine for me..but then its the only thing I've ever used. My other half thinks its sh!!te, but I speak vista and I don't find it too bad

[yorkie_chris]

How come yours randomly freezes then lou? Doesn't connect to "plug and play" hardware without a fight and won't let you go to page 2 on eBay lists?

Not impressed by any contacy I've had with vista, and will stick with XP pro untill I upgrade machine, then maybe XP pro 64. Unless I can be rsed to learn linux which is doubtful.

[larigos]

thats were the problems sits - vista.....

[Baph]

TLW, look for newer drivers/firmware for the wireless card. I have the same with an Atheros card, only it works better in Vista than it does in Linux.

Whilst we're on the subject of Vista bashing (why does every thread with Vista in the title turn out this way?)...

I recently aquired a new laptop, not really top of the range, but it came with Vista pre-installed. So I used Vista for a while, and one of the updates screwed the MBR, and refused to let the laptop boot up. How miffed was I? I wasn't at home, and didn't have any of my disks to hand to sort it out.

After calling into a computer repair shop, and fixing it myself for free whilst having a chin wag, Vista was up and running again.

This laptop is a multi-boot setup, offering Vista, XP, BSD and a couple of flavours of Linux. I need to be able to test certain applications under Vista, so Vista stays installed.

I'm using Vista now purely out of choice. Oh, and I haven't even disabled Windows Defender (so I still get all those 'annoying' pop-ups).

[dizzyblonde]

How come yours randomly freezes then lou? Doesn't connect to "plug and play" hardware without a fight and won't let you go to page 2 on eBay lists?

.


Its been fine since I turned the BT box off and reset it

[the_lone_wolf]

TLW, look for newer drivers/firmware for the wireless card. I have the same with an Atheros card, only it works better in Vista than it does in Linux.
was on latest netgear drivers from their website, it was windows defaulting to AES network encryption instead of TKIP for some reason that it wouldn't connect

Whilst we're on the subject of Vista bashing (why does every thread with Vista in the title turn out this way?)...

because when they first released it it was terrible and everyone has forgotten that XP was just as bad before it got to SP1;)

that's the general rule for MS OSs, wait for SP1 before jumping

[dizzyblonde]

because when they first released it it was terrible and everyone has forgotten that XP was just as bad before it got to SP1;)



exactly,
YC said it don't connect to plug n play stuff..well it didn't at first, it couldn't recognise anything apart from my bluetooth dongle. It was a bugger because i really wanted to put my pics off my camera on to it.

I downloaded an update one day and as if by magic they all started to work with Vista....only had to wait 6 months mind:smt120 I haven't had a prob with any USB things since

[the_lone_wolf]

exactly,
YC said it don't connect to plug n play stuff..well it didn't at first, it couldn't recognise anything apart from my bluetooth dongle. It was a bugger because i really wanted to put my pics off my camera on to it.

I downloaded an update one day and as if by magic they all started to work with Vista....only had to wait 6 months mind:smt120 I haven't had a prob with any USB things since

i think most vista problems generate error code:

PEBKAC

;)

[yorkie_chris]

Yeah and if SP1 comes out and it's stable and doesn't need an atomic powered computer to make it run decently then I might use it. Even then it doesn't have any real advantage over XP/XP64

[dizzyblonde]

i think most vista problems generate error code:

PEBKAC

;)


LMAO:p

[the_lone_wolf]

Yeah and if SP1 comes out and it's stable and doesn't need an atomic powered computer to make it run decently then I might use it. Even then it doesn't have any real advantage over XP/XP64

erm, SP1 is already out, that's why i've installed it;)

yes the system requirements are more than that of XP, but everyone cried when XP needed 512MB of RAM to run smoothly, you could buy 4GB of ram plus a decent GPU to run the aero interface and still get change from £100 at the moment so stop moaning

Main advantage and deal breaker for me = DX10, games will get there in the not too distant future and DX9 will begin to fade into obscurity

[yorkie_chris]

But I don't want to spend that £100 so it's not for me...