Another hagon spring question to those who use them.

[ricky_t]

Hi all.

I am quite light (68kg) that is 150lb in old money. I read in lots of posts that the stock suspension is OK to those who are light.

Is it worth getting the springs changed for someone who is 68kg?

Thanks

[dizzyblonde]

whats your weight in stones??
I'm just shy of ten stone and have Hagons front and rear on one of mine...its certainly improved things compared to stock

[ricky_t]

About 10stone 10lbs.

I guess as I weigh more than you I will but a request in for hagons springs this christmas! Hopefully St.Nic will be generous.

[dizzyblonde]

Not too much more than me then. If its any help my other half is aprox 13 stone, and hes ridden it too, and also says the full upgrade has made a great improvement.
15w oil in the forks, is for me a little stiff. At first I found it brilliant but as I've got used to the new set up, I have decided it would be preferable for me to have 12.5 in.
10 is too soft. Does that help you at all?

[ricky_t]

Thanks.

Is the setup still reasonably comfortable. I.e. you can ride 150 miles at 60mph without having the urge to speed up just to get off the seat as the ride is so hard.

I used to have a modified car that had adjustable suspension and before it had it I could drive on the motorway comfortably and when I changed it I found that I was speeding because the ride was too harsh on a daily basis.

I still like the SV feature of putting it into top gear and going slowly.

[dizzyblonde]

Thanks.

Is the setup still reasonably comfortable. I.e. you can ride 150 miles at 60mph without having the urge to speed up just to get off the seat as the ride is so hard.

I used to have a modified car that had adjustable suspension and before it had it I could drive on the motorway comfortably and when I changed it I found that I was speeding because the ride was too harsh on a daily basis.

I still like the SV feature of putting it into top gear and going slowly.


Nah, you don't get any of that. The hagon rear shock is a direct replacement, and the front end just feels better and smoother, I'm not very good at describing it am I?
Put it this way, when the bike was rebuilt with all the new gear on it, I went from here ( Halifax) and did the NW3 rideout (North Wales) a week or two later. So thats about 90 odd miles to Ruthin, then did aprox 150-200 the day after, and back up to Hx on the sunday. I reckon 400 miles or so in a weekend......lets just say I didn't want to get off!! The handling was superb and still is :-)
But then I also have a Corbin seat on too.

[ricky_t]

Nah, you don't get any of that. The hagon rear shock is a direct replacement, and the front end just feels better and smoother, I'm not very good at describing it am I?
Put it this way, when the bike was rebuilt with all the new gear on it, I went from here ( Halifax) and did the NW3 rideout (North Wales) a week or two later. So thats about 90 odd miles to Ruthin, then did aprox 150-200 the day after, and back up to Hx on the sunday. I reckon 400 miles or so in a weekend......lets just say I didn't want to get off!! The handling was superb and still is :-)
But then I also have a Corbin seat on too.

I understood what you wrote. ;)The front are just springs and oil whereas the rear is a monoshock.

I was intending to get both the front and rear shock like yourself. I ride mainly on the road. I have ridden a few other sports bikes and my brothers is almost too hard for the road. If you could ride 400miles and it was bareable, that is all I was really after!

Since I am still pestering you, what are the adjustments for the rear shock i.e. comp, rebound, preload? I really should have asked hagon that question rather that just the price!

[dizzyblonde]

errrrrr, adjustments? no idea, YC fitted it for me, that question is something I don't know anything about...PM him, he'll answer that for you. Either that or someone technical will come along shortly ;-)
As far as it goes for me, he took out my rusty one and replaced it with a nice shiny red one...lol. Then adjusted it with the hagon spannery thing that came with it for my height before i rode it.

[thefallenangel]

Hagon springs generally come with thicker fork oil anyway. The front end needs doing first before the rear shock as a better rear shock will put more weight towards the front and is cheaper anyway (unless you go down a GSXR1000 shock road).

[dizzyblonde]

Unless of course, you are doing the whole lot at once...thats when you notice the real benefit :-)

[chris8886]

i'm a similar weight to you and it made the world of difference to me. though now having had it for a while i'm starting to think i want better still!

[Alpinestarhero]

How easy is it do change the fork springs? I would love to put in hagon springs in my bike, but I don't want to annoy my dad by asking for his help or get in his way at his work (he always tells me to come down to his workplace to do stuff to my bike). I'm going to do the shock probably, kinda hoping my current rear shock can be used in the Honda VFR400 my dad is rebuilding

[dizzyblonde]

AFAIK, take the top cap off splurge out the oil, the spring follows, stick in new spring, put in new oil with recommended air gap...put on top cap...put back in bike away you go....but then YC makes it look easy ;-)

[Dangerous Dave]

AFAIK, take the top cap off splurge out the oil, the spring follows, stick in new spring, put in new oil with recommended air gap...put on top cap...put back in bike away you go....but then YC makes it look easy ;-)
Aye.

Don't forget to compress the forks several times to remove all the oil, same again on assembly to get all the oil in the right place before measuring the air gap.

[yorkie_chris]

Who was asking about rebound n compression and stuff?

There are no settings, if you get a hagon shock there is a damping adjuster but that works on both.

Oil weight mainly affects rebound on stock forks.