crash protection on a naked SV

[wow]

I wonder if you could give me any help with crash protection on the SV (naked). Where do these things go? is there just one place or more than one (front and back?). And most importantly what parts do they protect in case the bike falls over? Anyone any experience and/or crash protection on their naked SV?

[Luckypants]

The main type of crash protection is 'crash bungs' - big lumps of plastic bolted to the frame, that stick out so that they are the first thing to hit the floor. They are designed to protect the major items on your bike like the frame, engine, tank etc. The yanks call them frame sliders.

There are two makes which seem to be popular, R&G and Motosliders. Motosliders get my vote, imo stronger than R&G and a longer plastic bit.

You can also fit plastic sliders as paddock stand bobbins, bar ends and on the front wheel spindle/axle to assist the primary crash bung. To get maximum protection, it is said that three 'sliding points' are needed, so none (or at least very little) of your bike slides on the road.

Remember that whatever you do to protect your bike in a crash, it only limits the damage. You cannot protect it from impacts (hitting cars / kerbs etc) only the effects of sliding down the road. You will still probably lose one or two levers in an off.

[Dangerous Dave]

For naked I would recommend Motosliders, they are by far the best crash bungs on the market for the SV650.

http://forums.sv650.org/picture.php?albumid=121&pictureid=758

http://forums.sv650.org/picture.php?albumid=121&pictureid=759

As added protection you could get some crash bars, they are like a cage around the lower half of the engine and help protect the casings.

http://www.revsperformance.com/images/renntec/enginebars/SV650EBarREN10100B.jpg

http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/uploads/240_sv650_motorsbuegel.jpg

Bar and an bobbin sliders are also a good method of protection, they stop the bike from digging into the tarmac allowing it to slide rather than tumble down the road....

http://forums.sv650.org/picture.php?albumid=121&pictureid=766

http://forums.sv650.org/picture.php?albumid=121&pictureid=755

http://motosliders.com/images/ms2.JPG

[yorkie_chris]

Yup, also some motocross handguards to protect the levers. And when inevitable does happen then DONT replace the bent bars (they will be) with standard ones! Fit some renthals, same dimensions but made of metal thicker than 2 fag papers.

Oh and find out if davie SV has any more fixer pegs, ace inventions.

Motosliders do a package deal on their frame and swingarm sliders, both of which are very effective.

[dizzyblonde]

YC's part of the package I got last week from motosliders was a set of engine sliders ,they came to 83 dollars inc p+p, which is about 54 quid.
2 sets of swingarm bobbins and a spare enigne bung came to about 70 odd inc p+p, Spare bungs are 18 quid :-)

actually I fib, the package came from SVRacing parts...which were all motosliders products

[yorkie_chris]

P.s I know quite a bit about crashing naked SV's ... I'm not making it up lol

[wow]

YC's part of the package I got last week from motosliders was a set of engine sliders ,they came to 83 dollars inc p+p, which is about 54 quid.
2 sets of swingarm bobbins and a spare enigne bung came to about 70 odd inc p+p, Spare bungs are 18 quid :-)

actually I fib, the package came from SVRacing parts...which were all motosliders products

Thanks for this but it's not a naked SV so it's different.

[yorkie_chris]

No dear it's not. The naked and faired SV share the same engine and frame, the sliders she is reffering to were for my naked SV and went on last night just fine.

[Dangerous Dave]

Thanks for this but it's not a naked SV so it's different.
I wonder if you could give me any help with crash protection on the SV (naked).
Whether faired, naked, pointy or curvy the same Motoslider frame and swingarm protectors will fit.

[wow]

For naked I would recommend Motosliders, they are by far the best crash bungs on the market for the SV650.

As added protection you could get some crash bars, they are like a cage around the lower half of the engine and help protect the casings.

Bar and an bobbin sliders are also a good method of protection, they stop the bike from digging into the tarmac allowing it to slide rather than tumble down the road....
http://forums.sv650.org/picture.php?albumid=121&pictureid=766

http://forums.sv650.org/picture.php?albumid=121&pictureid=755

Thanks for the pictures of the bars. I would like to find out what the bobbins look like and where they go. But you probably won't have those from what I can see.

[wow]

The main type of crash protection is 'crash bungs' - big lumps of plastic bolted to the frame, that stick out so that they are the first thing to hit the floor. They are designed to protect the major items on your bike like the frame, engine, tank etc. The yanks call them frame sliders.

There are two makes which seem to be popular, R&G and Motosliders. Motosliders get my vote, imo stronger than R&G and a longer plastic bit.

You can also fit plastic sliders as paddock stand bobbins, bar ends and on the front wheel spindle/axle to assist the primary crash bung. To get maximum protection, it is said that three 'sliding points' are needed, so none (or at least very little) of your bike slides on the road.

Remember that whatever you do to protect your bike in a crash, it only limits the damage. You cannot protect it from impacts (hitting cars / kerbs etc) only the effects of sliding down the road. You will still probably lose one or two levers in an off.

Have you got a picture of the paddock stand bobbins? Or anyone else? And also looking where the main crash bungs go but can probably find a naked SV which has got those attached.

[yorkie_chris]

http://i6.tinypic.com/835i3a1.jpg
Swingarm slider.

A quick search should show you some pics of what motosliders look like.

[yorkie_chris]

http://www.motosliders.com/images/MS-1Big5.jpg
There ya go

[shonadoll]

I've got the R&G's on mine - they look exactly the same as the ones above, the bolt goes right through the frame. I also have the R&G bar ends which are nice.

[yorkie_chris]

R+G is pricey and doesn't work as well

[shonadoll]

R+G is pricey and doesn't work as well

They were the ones recommended to me.

[Dangerous Dave]

They were the ones recommended to me.
What muppet did that...

R&G's are only worth recommending if you have a fully faired bike and do not wish to modify the lower panels, other than that Motosliders are the top dogs.

[wow]

Is there anyone who can say from experience how it has protected the bike, I guess it needs someone who has dropped the bike with and without the bungs.

[yorkie_chris]

P.s I know quite a bit about crashing naked SV's ... I'm not making it up lol

:rolleyes:

Didn't think you hardy-driveable riding types went fast enough to fall off anyway?

[dizzyblonde]

Is there anyone who can say from experience how it has protected the bike, I guess it needs someone who has dropped the bike with and without the bungs.

ok heres a comparison between the two mentioned on here.
R+G bend and snap off, in fact in FG1's thread yesterday he said he couldn't find where it had gone
Motosliders stay put, they grind down, and live for another day. Somewhere I have pics of what they look like crashed. On my bike they stopped the curb doing any damage to the bike, in fact the bike slid down the road, up on the pavement via the motoslider, ok, so the foot bit of the gear lever snapped off but it left a nice mark forever up the pavement, I believe that they stopped my clutch lever being damaged, or frame or radiator for that matter. Yes my fairing cracked, but it didn't get completely mangled like it would if I hadn't have had them on. My fairing will be repaired easily, also the indicator stayed on too, I just need a lens (its gaffer taped on for now)
I have a rentec rack on the back and that took the slide instead of my tail plastics or swingarm

Crash bungs ain't going to stop damage completely...but they make things less expensive to repair/replace

Plus on YCs bike, on his recent crash..the swingarm bobbins stopped any damage to the tail plastics, I reckon they'd have been pretty smashed if he hadn't have had them, which is why I ordered a set for each bike from motosliders

[northwind]

Shonadoll has the older R&Gs though, not the new ones with the big strong bracket and the s*** bendy bolt. I used to have those, mine did me proud in my big off at knockhill, the rhs one was only about an inch long by the time the bike left the tarmac mind :smt003 I think motosliders are basically stronger as they have the one-part bung, not the screw-in cap that the old R&Gs had, a few people reported failures with that. Still, I was happier with the old ones than the new ones, which just folded up in a slow crash.

In the interests of science, I have conducted some testing :rolleyes: These were both lowsides in corners at fairly low speeds, the R&G crash probably around 20mph, the motosliders one maybe 25mph, by the time the bung touched the ground.

R&G:

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/Northwindlowlander/bike%20photos/bentRandg.jpg

Foldy

Motosliders:

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/Northwindlowlander/bike%20photos/Picture033.jpg

Ready to crash again. The bike took more damage in the second pic, because it hit a kerb, but up til that point it was doing just fine. Add to this that the Motosliders are cheaper...

[FG1]

This is where I "had" an R&G fitted. I will let you make your own mind up wether it worked or not.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e90/tonyw2000/RIMG1088.jpg

[yorkie_chris]

Might have saved the panel from being smashed rather than scuffed.

But that's the inherent flaw with the R+G, the bolts bend, which does absorb impact but if they shear then tht happens!

[Dangerous Dave]

R&G know there product for the SV650 has faults, is that not enough proof?

[Crabbers]

All I'd say is fit something. After the amount I've had to spend on repairing my naked SV (radiators alone are breathtakingly expensive) then bungs are a sound investment.

[yorkie_chris]

Yup had that one myself.

[Crabbers]

Always look on the bright side..mine now has a beautiful Beowulf end can and is in a very fetching blue with matching fly screen. In fact, coming off was in investment really - now I no longer yearn for a litre class £7k bike, a 600 is plenty fast enough.