Thoroughly disappointed with a CBR600RR

[ricky_t]

Hi all,

Since the SV is getting on a bit I took an 07 CBR6RR for a test ride and was thoroughly disappointed. In my opinion a real disappointment as I had always liked the bike and had high expectations of it. Since I had a few hours spare this afternoon and the weather was good I took the SV to the local Honda garage to test ride a reasonably priced CBR600RR. 07 plate, 4000 miles, £4900 asking from Honda dealership.

THE GOOD: http://www.southwestbikers.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

The gearbox - smooth and slick
The clutch - did it job well and was really light.
The handling - It was pretty smooth but felt a bit out of touch with the road and what was going on.
Brakes - much better than the SV

THE BAD: http://www.southwestbikers.com/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif

The engine - Crap - On the SV, you open the throttle and you go and you are pushed to the back of the seat rest. On the CBR600RR you have nothing, nothing and then suddenly you see 130mph on the clock.
Braking - no engine braking!
Steering - This electronic steering damper does all the steering work for you and felt artificial.

Overall, http://www.southwestbikers.com/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif I felt the bike was definitively faster and handled better (just) than the SV. However, the lack of instant throttle response and the crisp acceleration was absent. It felt as you were less engaged in the ride and the bike did most of the riding for you. It was certainly less fun than the SV. I came off a few junctions and corners and the bike felt as if it was restricted. It also lulls you into a false sense of security i.e. It feels more controlled at higher speeds when the dangers at that speed are equal on the SV or a CBR.

NOW WHAT? Well since I don't like the CBR6RR what can the SV be replaced with? I think I may just modify the suspension on the SV instead as previously mentioned.

[fizzwheel]

Power and engine braking are there, you just didnt find them. You can't ride an SS600 like the SV you have to use the gearbox and keep the revs up.

Sounds like you want to try a Litre Twin or maybe an Bigger capacity IL4 like a 750 GSXR or a Litre IL4...

Or learn to re-adjust your riding style, it took me a little while to get used to my GSXR, but once you do, IMHO it much more rewarding to ride than the SV is.

[zsv650]

you need to rev it more think two stroke.

[ricky_t]

Power and engine braking are there, you just didnt find them. You can't ride an SS600 like the SV you have to use the gearbox and keep the revs up.

Sounds like you want to try a Litre Twin or maybe an Bigger capacity IL4 like a 750 GSXR or a Litre IL4...

Or learn to re-adjust your riding style, it took me a little while to get used to my GSXR, but once you do, IMHO it much more rewarding to ride than the SV is.

How are you meant to ride it then? Do you ride around in 1st and 2nd year everywhere? I mean most of the time I will be on the road and would like instant response.

Do you feel your GSXR is less involving or more than the SV. I mean in the feedback you get through the controls?

[zsv650]

gsxr different beast rather have one of those than a cbrrr.

[fizzwheel]

How are you meant to ride it then? Do you ride around in 1st and 2nd year everywhere? I mean most of the time I will be on the road and would like instant response.

Depends around town, 1st, 2nd, maybe 3rd. Twisty A / B roads, 3rd, 4th, 5th. Let the revs do the work. Keep it up above 7000rpm and it'll be very different to ride. Remember where the power begins to tail away on the SV is just where the power begins to come in on an SS600.


Do you feel your GSXR is less involving or more than the SV. I mean in the feedback you get through the controls?

Its much more involving and rewarding to ride. I went back to my SV after I got my GSXR. My SV felt slow, dull and boring, whereas the GSXR feels alive.

But... that might be more to do with the different characteristics between the CBR and GSXR. Honda have a reputation for making bikes that are almost to good that have the edges rounded off and feel well a bit bland.

Maybe you want to try a GSXR, R6 or a Ninja and see how that makes you feel.

[Mr Speirs]

Ducati 1098. Thats what you want ;)

[ricky_t]

Depends around town, 1st, 2nd, maybe 3rd. Twisty A / B roads, 3rd, 4th, 5th. Let the revs do the work. Keep it up above 7000rpm and it'll be very different to ride. Remember where the power begins to tail away on the SV is just where the power begins to come in on an SS600.



Its much more involving and rewarding to ride. I went back to my SV after I got my GSXR. My SV felt slow, dull and boring, whereas the GSXR feels alive.

But... that might be more to do with the different characteristics between the CBR and GSXR. Honda have a reputation for making bikes that are almost to good that have the edges rounded off and feel well a bit bland.

Maybe you want to try a GSXR, R6 or a Ninja and see how that makes you feel.

Point taken.

I guess when the weather is good again, another trip to the dealers for a GSXR. It maybe myself taking it a bit easy/relaxed riding since it was not my bike. However it was much more comfortable than the SV.

A ducati is out of the question, I want a reliable fun bike that is less than £5k. Also, I can afford the insurance on a 600 but I couldn't on a thou.

[zsv650]

could be the sv has spoiled you a bit too you dont really have to work at getting the power out of it have a go on a triple.:D

[fizzwheel]

A ducati is out of the question, I want a reliable fun bike that is less than £5k. Also, I can afford the insurance on a 600 but I couldn't on a thou.

I bet you could pick up a tidy Ducati 749S for that kind of budget. My other half has one ( e.d. on here ) I've ridden it alot and I like it. Its a faster, better suspended, better braked SV. 116bhp so its about the equivalent of an SS600. But it revs and revs like an IL4 does, but it will pull from much lower down the RPM range than a IL4 600 will.

Dont rule it out, maitenance isnt as expensive as you think. Servicing costs are about the same as my GSXR is only the servicing interval is longer.

But... I dont know if I would want to use it all year round. It'd be better as a 2nd bike. But wait for Pete and Lissa to tell you otherwise ;)

[Lissa]

But... I dont know if I would want to use it all year round. It'd be better as a 2nd bike. But wait for Pete and Lissa to tell you otherwise ;)

You called, Fizz?:p

In all fairness, I can't comment on using it all year round, we've only had it 5 months.................but we certainly do plan to ride throughout the winter. It's easier for us though, keeping it in the house makes it simpler for us to keep it clean and maintain it properly.:D

[sv-robo]

Hi all,

Since the SV is getting on a bit I took an 07 CBR6RR for a test ride and was thoroughly disappointed.
...:confused:

nothing and then suddenly you see 130mph on the clock.
And your problem being....

Overall, http://www.southwestbikers.com/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif I felt the bike was definitively faster and handled better
you don't say

:rolleyes:

[kwak zzr]

there is a lack of engine braking on my gixer but wow! everything else makes up for it! the gsxr makes the hairs stand up on the back of my neck where as the sv never did that, go test ride a gixer!

[yorkie_chris]

gsxr different beast rather have one of those than a cbrrr.

No they're not, all UJMs.

[zsv650]

whats a ujm.

[yorkie_chris]

Universal Japanese Motorcycle

[zsv650]

and another thing what do all those poxy r's mean ones enough jeez ott or what.

[yorkie_chris]

I rode an older 600RR ... found it very capable, plenty quick but totally soulless. Powerranger bike.

[fizzwheel]

there is a lack of engine braking on my gixer

There is, its there, try riding along at 10'000rpm in say third and then roll the throttle off you'll be surprised how quickly you stop.

Thing is the brakes are much better on the GSXR than the SV so you don't need to use the engine braking to slow you. If you learn to use the front brake to stop you rather than relying on engine braking you'll stop faster anyway.

I've never noticed it lacking engine braking wise, but thats because I learnt to ride on a two stroke so I never got used to using the engine braking because it never had any.

[zsv650]

I rode an older 600RR ... found it very capable, plenty quick but totally soulless. Powerranger bike. i said that and got lamblasted with comments like oh well it's x amount faster than your ****ty little sv and it goes round corners this much quicker i should of said hold on a minute did you just listen to what i said.:p

[Dangerous Dave]

There is, its there, try riding along at 10'000rpm in say third and then roll the throttle off you'll be surprised how quickly you stop.
+ 1

An IL4 and a V-Twin are two different methods of riding a bike to its full potential.

[petevtwin650]

Brakes should really be a last result, IMO, as they can unsettle the bike. Much easier to balance the bike on the throttle, but I guess for an IL4 that would need a lot of revs showing on the dial. but that's what they were made for.:D

Problem people have going from an SV to an revvier bike is using all the available revs I reckon. Same thing as a long time car driver takes a while to adapt to giving a bike some and not short shifting everywhere.

[muffles]

Problem people have going from an SV to an revvier bike is using all the available revs I reckon. Same thing as a long time car driver takes a while to adapt to giving a bike some and not short shifting everywhere.

Yep, this is it IMO. I have trouble riding an SV these days (it also seems slow, like it won't accelerate, even low down), as I'm used to IL4s. You get used to riding them in a different way, and then it will seem natural.

[ogden]

I can't believe I've only just stumbled across this thread.

Look, it's a 600 and it's a Honda. It's going to be pants. That's all there is to it.

[ThEGr33k]

A ducati is out of the question, I want a reliable fun bike that is less than £5k. Also, I can afford the insurance on a 600 but I couldn't on a thou.


Sounds like you want a Falco. Cheap as chips to buy, costs about the same as a 600 to insure, has go everwhere... enough to give 20mph power wheelies in 2nd (about 3K rps). Oh yes. Reliable, mine has done 21K miles now (12k in 9 months) with only a burnt out solenoid... Partly my fault, Oops.

Cheap to service too. :D

Test ride one maybe? :cool:

[kwak zzr]

There is, its there, try riding along at 10'000rpm in say third and then roll the throttle off you'll be surprised how quickly you stop.

Thing is the brakes are much better on the GSXR than the SV so you don't need to use the engine braking to slow you. If you learn to use the front brake to stop you rather than relying on engine braking you'll stop faster anyway.

I've never noticed it lacking engine braking wise, but thats because I learnt to ride on a two stroke so I never got used to using the engine braking because it never had any.

i used to enjoy locking up the back wheel and sliding it on the sv650s thats something i couldnt get the sv1000s to do or the gixer.

[kwak zzr]

i'm just learing to ride high revs again now :) its been 4 years since i last rode a il4 when i owned my cbr, i must say i am enjoying 125 in 3rd tho ;o) the noise is amazing!

[sv-robo]

i'm just learing to ride high revs again now :) , i must say i am enjoying 125 in 3rd tho ;o) the noise is amazing!

oooo,132 on my rr(sorry,just had to get that one in as this is an rr thread,LOL)at them revs(15000rpm just nudging redline,the 2 bros is screaming like a possessed motherf***er)

[muffles]

oooo,132 on my rr(sorry,just had to get that one in as this is an rr thread,LOL)at them revs(15000rpm just nudging redline,the 2 bros is screaming like a possessed motherf***er)

~148 in 3rd.

I win at the internet :)

[yorkie_chris]

People swearing and flaming a lot.

A load of IL4 power rangers waving their d1cks about...

This place is getting like visordown :-P

[sv-robo]

A load of IL4 power rangers waving their d1cks about...


Nah,not waving mine about........too cold,can't find it;)

[Tim in Belgium]

I found on the SV you had to rev it to go well anyway, I was always hitting the limiter, and on fast roads/track that it needed more. I found when touring, or on unknown roads etc the SV's accessible power very useful. Waiting to purchase a UJM, so will report back next year when I have.

[muffles]

People swearing and flaming a lot.

A load of IL4 power rangers waving their d1cks about...

This place is getting like visordown :-P

Does visordown have lots of 'alternative' people being 'alternative' because being 'alternative' is cool? ;)

For alternative, read bikes that aren't common :p

[ogden]

The SV only really does anything between 7k and 9k rpm. Outside that it's dead as a dodo. The last long run I did before I got rid of mine, I spent the whole time trying to find 7th gear.

[chris8886]

i used to enjoy locking up the back wheel and sliding it on the sv650s thats something i couldnt get the sv1000s to do or the gixer.

and i still do!! :D it's one of the most enjoyable things about the sv. i've not ridden my blade much (track only bike atm), but can understand where you're coming from it is such a different ride, in some ways not as involving, it doesn't really feel like you're working it to go fast (saw 108 in 2nd round lydden with loads of revs left, as we're doning willy waving atm ;) ). but yet i find it a really exciting bike to ride, being able to rev the nuts off it more is brilliant fun and having better feel from the suspension gives a more reassuring feel.

[muffles]

but yet i find it a really exciting bike to ride, being able to rev the nuts off it more is brilliant fun and having better feel from the suspension gives a more reassuring feel.

The problem is, a lot of people like that. Because a lot of people like it, it becomes common, and therefore you get contingents of people who dislike it *because* it's common, it's a lose-lose situation really lol. Someone is always going to be unhappy. That's what my previous post was about :D

Me personally, I buy a bike for it's attributes. I don't care if it's a common (type of) bike, if it satisfies the criteria I set down for the bike I want, then I'll get it. Being common in fact just aids me, as I get more choice, and can narrow down the criteria to very specific levels.

[ArtyLady]

Much easier to balance the bike on the throttle, but I guess for an IL4 that would need a lot of revs showing on the dial. but that's what they were made for.:D

Problem people have going from an SV to an revvier bike is using all the available revs I reckon. Same thing as a long time car driver takes a while to adapt to giving a bike some and not short shifting everywhere.

I agree with this Pete - I went from a Guzzi to a 600 Bandit, it wasnt til I went advanced training I learned how to ride the thing. All revs and screaming ;) didn't like it at all - and was relieved to get back on a V Twin. :cool:

[lexinoo]

Have you tried a street triple?could be the happy medium you're looking for.Great bikes.

[ThEGr33k]

V-twin ftw... Can I ask people with IL4 600's not to mention indicated speeds because it annoys me. The numbers are so far out of actual wack its silly. :rolleyes: UJM's for you :p. But we have had this heated convosation before.

Basically its a bit like:

-Want a top end rush that makes your bike feel more powerful than it is = IL4 600.

-If you want a bike that pulls like hell from any revs without an issue = 1000cc V-twin.

[lexinoo]

-want a bit of both?=street triple

[lexinoo]

superduke and 950/990 smr worth a look as well.

[ThEGr33k]

-want a bit of both?=street triple


I guess so... From what I hear.

[muffles]

V-twin ftw... Can I ask people with IL4 600's not to mention indicated speeds because it annoys me. The numbers are so far out of actual wack its silly. :rolleyes: UJM's for you :p. But we have had this heated convosation before.

Basically its a bit like:

-Want a top end rush that makes your bike feel more powerful than it is = IL4 600.

-If you want a bike that pulls like hell from any revs without an issue = 1000cc V-twin.

Indicated speeds on any of the bikes are way out, so really no-one should mention them. I always make sure I clarify it with 'on the clock' anyway :p

Also you forgot:

- Want both of the above? 1000cc IL4 ;)

Though I wouldn't say the top end rush makes an IL4 feel like it's more powerful - it just makes it feel as powerful as it is, it's just the top end is where the power is.

[ThEGr33k]

Yes your right most bikes are out on the speedo's but the 600 riders seem to be quoting the most rediculous. Not that it matters I suppose.

I didnt mention the IL4 thou because he said insuring it wouldnt be good. ha ha.

Aye but because the bottom end on a V2 1000 is so strong it makes the top end a little less... obvious.

Indicated speeds on any of the bikes are way out, so really no-one should mention them. I always make sure I clarify it with 'on the clock' anyway :p

Also you forgot:

- Want both of the above? 1000cc IL4 ;)

Though I wouldn't say the top end rush makes an IL4 feel like it's more powerful - it just makes it feel as powerful as it is, it's just the top end is where the power is.

[muffles]

Yes your right most bikes are out on the speedo's but the 600 riders seem to be quoting the most rediculous. Not that it matters I suppose.

I didnt mention the IL4 thou because he said insuring it wouldnt be good. ha ha.

Aye but because the bottom end on a V2 1000 is so strong it makes the top end a little less... obvious.

Yeah, I guess you are right, the top end on v-twins seems to be masked by the low/mid-range so you think it's less powerful (I think that's what you meant!).

Forgot about the IL4 1000 insurance bit, whoops! :D

[madness]

Is it a case of one type of bike being better or just being different? Does top speed really matter either. If you like how a bike delivers it's power then look for something similar. At the moment I'm not personally into high reving engines. I like plenty of low and midrange torque. It makes you lazy though.

[ogden]

Yes your right most bikes are out on the speedo's but the 600 riders seem to be quoting the most rediculous. Not that it matters I suppose.

It's not just the speedos. Wasn't it the R6 that had a tacho that lied, claiming something like 16k rpm when really it was only doing more like 14?

[fizzwheel]

It's not just the speedos. Wasn't it the R6 that had a tacho that lied, claiming something like 16k rpm when really it was only doing more like 14?

Yep it was the R6, big fuss in the bike press about it to IIRC

[ThEGr33k]

Aye thats what I mean muffles, you dont have the same top end rush because it keeps going all the way through.

It's not just the speedos. Wasn't it the R6 that had a tacho that lied, claiming something like 16k rpm when really it was only doing more like 14?


Something like that, though I think the tacho said over 18K and the limiter was at 16K. Though there is a bike closer to this forums that does that, though not the same. The SV650 I think only revs to 10.5K and hits the limiter and the SV1000 hits the limiter at 10K but the counters both go to 11K RPM. Tut tut. :rolleyes:

[muffles]

Is it a case of one type of bike being better or just being different?

Just different, IMO, I don't know anyone that's said a particular bike is 'better' full stop (some have said 'better for me' and it's been misinterpreted, but that's another matter ;)).

[chris8886]

Me personally, I buy a bike for it's attributes. I don't care if it's a common (type of) bike, if it satisfies the criteria I set down for the bike I want, then I'll get it. Being common in fact just aids me, as I get more choice, and can narrow down the criteria to very specific levels.

me too. if you do buy a common bike you can get parts more easily and in theroy cheaper because the market is flooded with them, no? plus when buying (if second hand) you can look for one that's got all the bits on it already that you want. if, like me you can't be bothered to do it yourself/have a lack of nouse/don't want to spend the extra cash.

[sinbad]

Yep it was the R6, big fuss in the bike press about it to IIRC

I'd like to ask the Yamaha tech that thought they could get away with that one what they'd been smoking before that meeting. It's ultra arrogant. "These fools won't realise that in any gear if revs double so should speed....the fools...muhahaha".

I reckon this IL4 vs V-twin "debate" is nearly as crazy as the curvy vs pointy one :)

I haven't ridden an IL4 ss600, but if I did it would be in full knowledge that the engine is very different from a v-twin. I would accept that in a 3rd gear which stretches out past 120mph it's not going to wheelie away from 30 limits. That's only a negative if you don't ride around it. I should imagine that as long as you're in the right gear an SS600 feels pretty damned urgent at any speed, and there's something very appealing to me about keeping an engine up on the boil that much higher than the SV needs to be.
I wouldn't buy one so I can be lazy with the gear lever and then complain that it doesn't pull in 5th at 40mph. It's not a valid complaint any more than complaining that a v-twin 1000 runs out of revs too soon.

[Larry]

Ever thought of trying a lazier 750 - 1000cc engine? I loved the power delivery on the SV but thought it needed a little more top end rush as I was getting bored with the flatness up top. The RF I have now pulls well from 4k up, and there's a nice surge again after 8k. Plus I've become addicted to the IL4 screaming :D

[zsv650]

Ever thought of trying a lazier 750 - 1000cc engine? I loved the power delivery on the SV but thought it needed a little more top end rush as I was getting bored with the flatness up top. The RF I have now pulls well from 4k up, and there's a nice surge again after 8k. Plus I've become addicted to the IL4 screaming :D
that is such an underated bike it's untrue i think their ace if you want a alternative to a early blade :cool:

[Larry]

that is such an underated bike it's untrue i think their ace if you want a alternative to a early blade :cool:

That's true, early Blades are excellent bikes as well, had a test ride of one when I was looking, but chose the RF just because I just love its looks (which I realise are controversial). There's not any noticeable difference in power either between the two. The other bike I tried was a Thunderace, again a lot of fun!

Best engine out of the three I felt was the RF, best handling by far was the Blade and best comfort the Thunderace, it's all down to which suits your riding style really.

[ricky_t]

Thanks all for your comments.

Due to insurance purposes I don't really want a sportsbike more than 600cc but a higher cc sports tourer is ok.

I have read a few reviews and done insurance quotes and the Honda firestorm seems to be quite good. Only £212 to insure compared to £190 on the SV. It also ticks all my boxes on paper so I would try one out.

Thanks for all the suggestions too. However, by budget is for a nearly new bike and I don't want anything non-Japanese! I don't mind spending more on a nearly new bike knowing I wouldn't need to spend any money on it apart from servicing.

Since I do most of my riding on the road I don't really want to have a bike sitting at 7000rpm whilst I potter around, go on the motorway or to the shops. For me it is infuriating that you have to wind it up so high - it is just temptation to speed everywhere.

I do understand that if you are on a track or riding a road quickly you will be in the higher rpms anyways but on the road a v-twin just makes more sense to me. It has to be better on the engine also. The sv spends most of its time between 4-5k rpm. On the CBR it would have to be around 8K rpm for the responce I want.

I think you are right about the IL4 vs v-twin debate. The v-twin makes more sense on the road (legally.) Exclude the 1000cc bikes as I couldn't afford the insurance for a blade or r1! The IL4 are ok for the sunday blast but not really for the day to day riding.

[zsv650]

Best engine out of the three I felt was the RF. well it is a suzuki:smt035

[glade]

Yeah, I guess you are right, the top end on v-twins seems to be masked by the low/mid-range so you think it's less powerful (I think that's what you meant!).

Forgot about the IL4 1000 insurance bit, whoops! :D


Indeed, my superduke test ride felt like that. Loads of oomph but linear delivery made top end predictable rather than awesome. Still bloody fast mind!

[sv-robo]

Can I ask people with IL4 600's not to mention indicated speeds because it annoys me.
. Sorry Mum!!:p

-If you want a bike that pulls like hell from any revs without an issue = 1000cc V-twin.
How thoughtless of me...forgot the falco was the overall best/quickest/never to be beaten bike ever made & likely ever to be made,if you ain't ridden a falco,you ain't ever ridden.:roll:=;

[zsv650]

saw a nice falco today black and red thing quite a new un too then i saw a 955i daytona and quickly forgot about it ha.

[Lissa]

saw a nice falco today black and red thing quite a new un too then i saw a 955i daytona and quickly forgot about it ha.

Down at Midlands Superbikes by any chance?:D

[sv-robo]

saw a nice falco today black and red thing quite a new un too then i saw a 955i daytona and quickly forgot about it ha.
PMSL:winner:

[fizzwheel]

Since I do most of my riding on the road I don't really want to have a bike sitting at 7000rpm whilst I potter around, go on the motorway or to the shops. For me it is infuriating that you have to wind it up so high - it is just temptation to speed everywhere.

I'm quite happy with my GSXR at that kind of RPM. It weird to explain, but it doesnt feel stressed or that its screaming its nuts off.

Whereas the SV feels like you're gunning it at 7000rpm the GSXR doesnt. 7000rpm is a nice crusing RPM and it has alot of power from there to propel it forward. I guess it would be the same as opening the SV's throttle at about 3000 to 4000rpm. The pick and the feel is the same. But the power builds and sustains where as the SV dies away. Liz's 749 is the same it just pulls from lower down than the GSXR does. But it doesnt die away higher up the RPM range like the SV does. Its also got a noticeable shove past 6000rpm as well.

I think Pete was right in that you have to take time to get used to the different engine characteristics.

[zsv650]

Down at Midlands Superbikes by any chance?:D
do you know as it just so happens it was theres two one i wouldnt bother with the others a corker:cool:

[ThEGr33k]

How thoughtless of me...forgot the falco was the overall best/quickest/never to be beaten bike ever made & likely ever to be made,if you ain't ridden a falco,you ain't ever ridden.:roll:=;

Meow. Nothing to do with that... but of course you are right. :p

Im sure you know about speedo error?

saw a nice falco today black and red thing quite a new un too then i saw a 955i daytona and quickly forgot about it ha.


Id also forget about a 955i that quick too. :rolleyes:

[Lissa]

do you know as it just so happens it was theres two one i wouldnt bother with the others a corker:cool:

Thought it might have been. The Falco has been there for a while, and the price seems a bit high.

[ThEGr33k]

Thought it might have been. The Falco has been there for a while, and the price seems a bit high.


How much? You can get a Falco with less than 10K miles on it for less than £3K easily. If your lucky you might get one with a nice shock on it. :smt003

[zsv650]

i'll not bash the falco by all measures it's a ace bike with a lot of fancy compnentry and a sweet engine for very little money just not what i'd call a drooler.:)

[zsv650]

Thought it might have been. The Falco has been there for a while, and the price seems a bit high.
their prices are always too high :smt120

[ThEGr33k]

i'll not bash the falco by all measures it's a ace bike with a lot of fancy compnentry and a sweet engine for very little money just not what i'd call a drooler.:)


Aye its a marmite bike... :rolleyes: TBH the best thing about any aprilia V60 imo is the noise. I havnt heard an engine config that beats the sound. Once followed a RSV with a Blue flame zorst. WOW. :smt003

Anyways... What you going to try next bike wise?

[yorkie_chris]

The flacos are nice bikes, but I don't think I'd have one over a 955i. Especially as you can pick up an early T5 for £1500. Best of both between big twin and revvy IL4 then. Who'da thunk it from a thing with 3 pots eh...

[zsv650]

Aye its a marmite bike... :rolleyes: TBH the best thing about any aprilia V60 imo is the noise. I havnt heard an engine config that beats the sound. Once followed a RSV with a Blue flame zorst. WOW. :smt003

Anyways... What you going to try next bike wise?
it's gonna have to be a later 955i daytona i have strange taste in bikes but the olde sv's gonna be here for a while though might even run it into the ground ;):)

[ogden]

I thought about a Daytona but crossed them off my list on aesthetic grounds. They ming badly.

[missyburd]

Id also forget about a 955i that quick too. :rolleyes:
Aye but if you even think about trying to convince my YC to get a Falco I'd have to come after you with a machete and get rid of him if he actually bought one :lol:


Although obviously he has more sense anyway so it would never happen and you can sleep safely at night ;P

[zsv650]

I thought about a Daytona but crossed them off my list on aesthetic grounds. They ming badly.
bit shallow isnt it :D

[ThEGr33k]

I do actually like the 955i's. My dad has a sprint ST and it seems a nice bike. Got to warn you though they have the quietest Zorsts ever, some how. My Falco with blue flames and baffles on is louder than my dads 955i with no end pipe! Its strange tbh! :confused:

[zsv650]

yep my dad had a 955i st too really nice bike he says he'd never have another triumph though cause of the parts being expensive.

[ThEGr33k]

Aye but if you even think about trying to convince my YC to get a Falco I'd have to come after you with a machete and get rid of him if he actually bought one :lol:


Although obviously he has more sense anyway so it would never happen and you can sleep safely at night ;P


Whats so wrong with a falco? :confused:

[ogden]

bit shallow isnt it :D

The vast majority of large sportsbikes are so competent that it comes down to three things when choosing what to buy:

Is the price right?
Does it sound right?
Does it look right?

The Daytona comes up trumps on the sound but falls flat on its face on the looks. If they'd only put a proper engine in the 675 I'd be more than tempted, but they don't, so I'm not.

[zsv650]

The vast majority of large sportsbikes are so competent that it comes down to three things when choosing what to buy:

Is the price right?
Does it sound right?
Does it look right?

The Daytona comes up trumps on the sound but falls flat on its face on the looks. If they'd only put a proper engine in the 675 I'd be more than tempted, but they don't, so I'm not.
i like the looks of the 955i know what you mean though and theyve got that 1050 engine screaming to be put into a proper sportbike shame.:(

[fizzwheel]

Whats so wrong with a falco? :confused:

Where do you want me to start.....

( we've been here before havent we ;) :D )

[yorkie_chris]

i like the looks of the 955i know what you mean though and theyve got that 1050 engine screaming to be put into a proper sportbike shame.:(

Who needs one when there's a speed triple? Though this months PB does have an interesting mockup of what a big-bore daytona would look like.

Trumpets have good reputation for handling well on roads rather than track.
I've heard differing opinions on reliability. You can't use chip fat for oil like on SV, needs a full synth or it'll break.

[zsv650]

Who needs one when there's a speed triple? Though this months PB does have an interesting mockup of what a big-bore daytona would look like.

Trumpets have good reputation for handling well on roads rather than track.
I've heard differing opinions on reliability. You can't use chip fat for oil like on SV, needs a full synth or it'll break.
it'll be good enough for me more power than i'll need i can handle quirks for a bit o charachter:-P

[ThEGr33k]

Where do you want me to start.....

( we've been here before havent we ;) :D )


Far too often. LOL. Sounds like the 955i is a little like my bike marmite. Personally I prefer the looks of the 955i Daytona than the 675. Am I wierd? :p

The single sided swinger is well nice. A shame they put a 3 spoke wheel on. Some of those wheels off the new speed triple would look the dogs on a Daytona. :D Wonder if they are a streight swap?

[steveg]

I had a Honda cbr600 rr as a track day bike , went well on track but don't think I would want one for day to day transport , typical Honda , great but strangley souless

Cheers Steveg

[yorkie_chris]

Far too often. LOL. Sounds like the 955i is a little like my bike marmite. Personally I prefer the looks of the 955i Daytona than the 675. Am I wierd? :p

The single sided swinger is well nice. A shame they put a 3 spoke wheel on. Some of those wheels off the new speed triple would look the dogs on a Daytona. :D Wonder if they are a streight swap?

The SSSA is well heavy, but nice.

Later model wheels just look tarty, as does the rest of it... those underseat cans and all the shiny stuff is horrible.

[ThEGr33k]

The SSSA is well heavy, but nice.

Later model wheels just look tarty, as does the rest of it... those underseat cans and all the shiny stuff is horrible.

A bit of modifying is fun though isnt it :D

[zsv650]

Far too often. LOL. Sounds like the 955i is a little like my bike marmite. Personally I prefer the looks of the 955i Daytona than the 675. Am I wierd? :p

The single sided swinger is well nice. A shame they put a 3 spoke wheel on. Some of those wheels off the new speed triple would look the dogs on a Daytona. :D Wonder if they are a streight swap?
i'd need two 675's though one for each cheek :oops:their tiiiiny.

[ThEGr33k]

i'd need two 675's though one for each cheek :oops:their tiiiiny.


How big are you?

[fizzwheel]

Am I wierd?

Yep :-P

[zsv650]

6 foot and 13 stone

[ThEGr33k]

Yep :-P


Well... I cant argue with that. :rolleyes:

[Tim in Belgium]

You can't use chip fat for oil like on SV.....


Remind me not to buy your bike when you're finished with it ;)

[ogden]

Regardless of all that's been discussed above, I can strongly recommend a GSXR750.

[kwak zzr]

-If you want a bike that pulls like hell from any revs without an issue = 1000cc V-twin.

errr not really i sold mine.

[ogden]

errr not really i sold mine.

To be fair, if I was looking for a litre twin, it wouldn't be an SV. It's never really had a reputation as being anything but watered down.

[fizzwheel]

Regardless of all that's been discussed above, I can strongly recommend a GSXR750.

I did in the 2nd post on this thread ;) :D

[kwak zzr]

the sv1000s is a good underrated bike, trouble is it does everything good but not much brilliantly.

[ThEGr33k]

errr not really i sold mine.

Aye not meaning to be offensive... but how many miles do you do? I think if you do lots of miles a 1000 V twin would prove more flexible than a SS600.

[kwak zzr]

its just a pleasure thing for me, i do about 4k per year.