Civilians with Speed Guns

[PsychoCannon]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4733033.stm

As if they idea of CPO's wasn't bad enough (I thought they at least had to pass basic fitness but given the group of 20 stone lard asses "patroling" (read wheezing against the nearest pillar) Kings Cross this morning they seem to have watered that down some what), they now want "Volunteers" to go out with Speed Guns and Mobile cameras.
These people will also be given access to the Police computers to "identify drivers".
They have to pay for the equipment themselves and likely will not be subsidised.

Read this in a few places and most of them say that when this gets extended "3 warnings" from these Civilian Volunteers with speed guns and mobile gatsos will result in a fine and points the same as if you had been done by a normal camera.

Can't imagine you'd have any real way of appealing it either as it's already hard enough, but now they are only "warnings" there is probably even less chance of getting them to retract it before they fine you.

"They can be targeted for prosecution if they get three letters for speeding through volunteer group traps"

Personally I think this is freaking retarded! and I can just imagine the sort of jobsworths that will want to pay to go for this hiding round blind bends and causing all sorts of mayhem and not caring that these aren't exactly very accurate! especially against bikes.

"The groups will be expected to have at least six adult members, and organise their own finance. They are likely to be subsidised by local councils."
"Police officers – or a community police officer – are involved in picking out suitable roadside sites. "

So civilian volunteers can advise civilian volunetters where a good place to set up would be and the fact they suggest at least "6 adults" suggests they are happy for minors to join in too??

This picture sums it up nicely
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/11/23/article-1088718-02923ABF000005DC-219_468x693.jpg

Yeah way to go, it's REALLY important to monitor that downhill 10 meters between a 30 and a 60 so people are more worried about their speedo and picking up that accidently 3mph down that incline that focusing on that bend coming up!

They've already had complaints in the trial areas that several of the communities they tested it in.

"One of the first forces to try civilian volunteers was Cambridgeshire. But it was forced to scrap the idea within weeks after opposition from a group of villagers.
Company director Salli Roskilly decided to launch a petition against the initiative after it divided residents in her village of Fowlmere, near Royston.
She said: 'The final straw was when I walked by one morning and saw that they had schoolchildren on the cameras. I am the last to condone speeding but there is a question of civil liberties. "

The only upside I can see to this is that it will be a lot more satisfying putting a petrol soaked tyre round some of these than the gatsos :)

[Ch00]

I agree that it should be left to the Police. The spot used in that picture is also very poor. To be effective he should be on the other side to slow people coming into the village not out of it.

Ch00

[Ceri JC]

Great way of creating division and feuds in a community, well done. Most people don't seek revenge against a faceless organisation like the police/scamera operators. Will this still be the case if the person catching you is your next door neighbour? I doubt it.

[RichT]

Putting the revenue raising in the hands of Jonny Bravo.. OMG...

"Yes your honour, his son ran away with my missus, but that's nothing to do with the 34mph in a 30 limit is it?"

[gettin2dizzy]

Hahaha. There's some real ********s in the world :lol:

I'll believe it when I see it though.

[jimmy__riddle]

I agree that it should be left to the Police. The spot used in that picture is also very poor. To be effective he should be on the other side to slow people coming into the village not out of it.

Ch00

depends which direction you are travelling! ;)

I predict this would make some people very unpopular. I think they would soon stop after people have smashed their hand held devices a few times as i guess they aren't cheap

[KnightRider]

We will be fine.

1 - I doubt any of the volenteers will be quick enough on the trigger to catch us!!!
2 - The old grumps wont have good enough eye sight to either point the camera at us or read our reduced size number plates!!!

;-) Jokes!!!!!

[Drew Carey]

We will be fine.

1 - I doubt any of the volenteers will be quick enough on the trigger to catch us!!!
2 - The old grumps wont have good enough eye sight to either point the camera at us or read our reduced size number plates!!!

;-) Jokes!!!!!

I think you have a good point here......if you had three warnings and got fined you could contest on the grounds of:

"Your honour, please can you provide proof that this 75 year old jobsworthy preist is trained to operate said speed entrapement device?"

"Yes you criminal, he has a certificate"

"Well can I see a certificate for his eyes as he appears to be blind as a ducking bat!!!!!"

[rigor]

Oh my word...

LOOK AT THE DATE OF THE ARTICLE!!

They've been doing it for a good few years now down near where I live.

My favourite game on the bike is to see how fast they can sping round when I go passed at 30mph in first slipping the clutch :)

[Paul the 6th]

civillians with machine guns... I should be allowed to decide who's a potential mugger and then mow them down with a gat. pow pow cos i is the law. This country is f***ed

[JamesMio]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!! KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL!!!

I'm really not certain that I could contain my rage if I ever encountered one of this lot.

[PsychoCannon]

haha yeah sorry Beeb article was old but surfaced again recently in 2 other papers as they are going to extend the trials now but both are sources that people here don't seem to like much *coughmailcough* so figured I'd link the old Beeb one =p.

[Dangerous Dave]

If i see one of these civilians pointing a speed gun at me I will point my gun at them....

[RichT]

Be careful Dave - You might get done for indecent exposure... :D

[madness]

It's hardly suprising that more and more people are emigrating each year.

Why do we put up with this kind of c**p?

[Dangerous Dave]

Be careful Dave - You might get done for indecent exposure... :D
and whilst speeding in this chilly weather too....:shock:

[DanAbnormal]

Why don't the civilians just wear a bib that reads "I have no life or
friends". More fool the government for encouraging this sort of ****.

[RichT]

and whilst speeding in this chilly weather too....:shock:

lmao

[Stu]

Oh my word...

LOOK AT THE DATE OF THE ARTICLE!!

They've been doing it for a good few years now down near where I live.

My favourite game on the bike is to see how fast they can sping round when I go passed at 30mph in first slipping the clutch :)
When I saw them up ahead, I crashed into the car that had stopped in front of me :oops:

Great safety campaign :smt067

[yorkie_chris]

It's like that bbc vid from inside a scamera van... where a couple of cars see the van, slam on and lose control. Then they say "oh yes excessive speed CAUSED this accident" ... no you utter f##ktards ... they were quite safe doing 80 and it's only you trying to extract money from them that caused the crash...

Winds me up. They need setting on fire.

[Luckypants]

We have this on the A5 at Pentrfoelas. Locals wear hi-viz and zap you with a speed gun, everyone is convinced they are plod unless you know the score. If you get caught by the civvies, you get a warning letter from N. Wales Police.

[Ceri JC]

Shame that they're self funded, otherwise some people might be tempted to join up and accidentally lose or damage their gun. Also scope for turning a blind eye to people speeding safely and instead zap people who are driving like ****s, but below the speed limit, by jerking the gun as you take the reading. ;)

[PsychoCannon]

Hmm you could always sign up...then sit outside the local council and see if you can't give them a few warnings. =p.
See how they like it ^_^.

[plowsie]

I work in a pub in a village, couple of the locals are doing this...they know their place with me :lol:

[thedonal]

I've been caught by these guys before, in Dorking. Got a polite letter from Guildford Council saying that I'd been spotted doing 50 in a 30- kindly stop this. If it keeps happening, thy'll be taking action (didn't say what).

They will apparently keep your details on record for 2 years. Which will be up next May... :D

[the_lone_wolf]

we use the same speed gun as the pic in the OP to do very rough speed surveys for highway design work, it's laughably easy to confuse as it send out a broad radar signal to measure speed, things like a vehicle moving int he opposite direction can give silly results

even a stroke patient who's been a recent victim of cranial intrusion could disassemble a prosecution case in court

[Stu]

even a stroke patient who's been a recent victim of cranial intrusion could disassemble a prosecution case in court
Just a shame I don't know anyone with such leagalistic skills, boogger could do with someone to help in my defence ;)

[AndyW]

They can't prosecute with evidence from civilian operators like that, there is no evidence recorded. The only thing they can do is write a letter.

If they have handed out access to the police database, then write to the Data Protection Commissionaire and demand that the police chief responsible is sacked, and start a multi-thousand pound lawsuit against the force. (In other words, they can't give civilians access to it)

To sum up, its a way to frighten motorists, nothing more.

[yorkie_chris]

Yes because cagers slamming their brakes on and causing more accidents is just what we need.

[Dangerous Dave]

They can't prosecute with evidence from civilian operators like that, there is no evidence recorded.
Aye, they are more of a traffic speed surveying system I believe.

[G]

They have these in Radlicffe on Trent in Nottinghamshire........Always wondered what powers they really had.

[fizzwheel]

They've been doing this in one the villages near me. Its on my summer cycle route home, they lurk at the bottom of a very steep hill which I'm touching nearly 40mph down ( its a 30mph limit ) I'm waiting to get gunned by one of them whlst on my pedal bike :p

[jimmy__riddle]

They've been doing this in one the villages near me. Its on my summer cycle route home, they lurk at the bottom of a very steep hill which I'm touching nearly 40mph down ( its a 30mph limit ) I'm waiting to get gunned by one of them whlst on my pedal bike :p

get some damaged plastics off a 'streetfightered' bike;)
tape them to your push bike, stick one of those kids things on your bike which makes an engine sound (or do it yourself).

[yorkie_chris]

What a pop bottle stuck in the back wheel? :-P

[jimmy__riddle]

What a pop bottle stuck in the back wheel? :-P

yeah thats the one!

if you could get their reg plate (maybe parked up nearby) then even better!

[yorkie_chris]

Maybe if you spot these spastics then you could anonymously report their reg plate for driving like a muppet or picking up jailbait or something lol

[Ceri JC]

Maybe if you spot these spastics then you could anonymously report their reg plate for driving like a muppet or picking up jailbait or something lol

Follow them home to get their own reg plate (or just see their car parked up next to where they are doing it) get a cloned plate made up to match it, stick it on your bike then speed past a different civilian speedtrap. :)

[Bluepete]

Just so we are clear, these people only record the details of the vehicles they think exceed the limit using the low tech equipment they have access to. They pass those details on to the council who write the letter.
Then, if there is percieved to be a problem with excess speed, the local Cops will come along with the Home Office approved kit and do some enforcement.

Pete

[rigor]

Just so we are clear, these people only record the details of the vehicles they think exceed the limit using the low tech equipment they have access to. They pass those details on to the council who write the letter.
Then, if there is percieved to be a problem with excess speed, the local Cops will come along with the Home Office approved kit and do some enforcement.

Pete

Or, do what they do with that Michael Collins guy (Not exactly, but set up something to catch a particular person) I guess if the speed was great enough, or you were a repeat offender.

[MiniMatt]

Thanks for the clarity there Blue - that makes a lot of sense. So practically there's no difference between these guys and me twitching my net curtains, using my low tech uncalibrated eyeballs to figure that the boy racer going up and down the road is going closer to 50mph than 30mph and reporting that?

Except..... under this scheme I could get MY VERY OWN lollypop lady jacket and get to point a gun at people, generally be feared and respected by all; feel the POWAH and RESHPECT MAH AUTHORITAH!

[Bluepete]

generally be feared and respected by all; feel the POWAH and RESHPECT MAH AUTHORITAH!

Exactly! :D :D :D

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk24/conker51/9ad9ba3b.jpg

[DanAbnormal]

I reckon Pete is the Stig.

I do!

Pete you must get fed up of all these reports on the net that invoke knee jurk reactions towards your profession?

I would anyway and probably maim a few people in a fit of uncontrollable murderous rage. :-D

[Bluepete]

I reckon Pete is the Stig. I really can't comment.....

I do!

Pete you must get fed up of all these reports on the net that invoke knee jurk reactions towards your profession? I get more bothered by gas that I can't pass in all honesty

I would anyway and probably maim a few people in a fit of uncontrollable murderous rage. :-D

As for the last one, NEVER


Well, not any more


Well not unless they are smaller than me and have handcuffs on 'cos I'm just a bully who was picked on at school who should be out there catching rapists and murderers instead of riding around in my comfy warm car raising money for the government by ticketing people.


No I'm not bitter.


Pete.


Oh and here are some smilies in case people don't realise that we are allowed a sense of humour. :D :D :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :smt019 :rolleyes:

[yorkie_chris]

You mean they actually let you put the heaters on in the car? Haven't they heard there's a credit crunch on... tsk...

[DanAbnormal]

Tee hee. Another great humour fuelled post by the almighty one known only as, The Bluepete.

Some say, that he once overtook himself doing a wheelie and then gave himself a ticket and did 'time'.

Some say............that while filtering at 103mph he actually broke the Guiness World record for the amount of Volvo wing mirrors he smashed off.

All we know, he is called the Blue Pete.

[northwind]

they were quite safe doing 80 and it's only you trying to extract money from them that caused the crash...


Nah, that's total b*****ks ( ;) ) If you see a speed camera and crash, you're obviously not safe on the road at all, anyone with such bad obs and decision making is going to have an accident sooner or later. IMO ;)

[yorkie_chris]

Yeah but something that's obviously going to cause panic braking isn't a good idea... maybe I should go dump some bags of gravel round roads just to see who's on their toes eh? :-P

[yorkie_chris]

Anyway my comment about them saying excessive speed was the cause of the accident still stands! You get plenty muppets slamming brakes on for cameras when they're under the limit too.

[northwind]

Oh yeah, that's completely right, I wouldn't disagree with that in the slightest :mrgreen: Some people are just liabilities. But the camera's not the cause, any more than speed is, it's just the trigger.

[Stu]

Oh yeah, that's completely right, I wouldn't disagree with that in the slightest :mrgreen: Some people are just liabilities. But the camera's not the cause, any more than speed is, it's just the trigger.
I do agree with you that it's the trigger not the cause. But I would go one stage further. If you take my situation for example. I was on my way to work just round the corner from my house. So I know it very well, so maybe I was being complacent? But I've never had a car stop in front of me where one did that day (to turn right into a driveway, not a road) when I was distracted by the Hi Viz of the community watch up ahead. Definetely wouldn't have been a collision if the Watch hadn't been there and I would contest I'm not a great liability on the road 8-[

[DanAbnormal]

Speed cameras round bends or misplaced so that they are hidden from clear view are dangerous. They can cause you to panick break, a natural reaction which is never good. Most speed camera's I've come across are pretty visable and on long straight roads though. Okay so the limit maybe a bit daft but slow down, then carry on doing a tonne once past. Hardly a deterent are they.

[Stu]

Most speed camera's I've come across are pretty visable and on long straight roads though. .
And 9 times out of 10 on a downhill :-k

[Bluepete]

They are coming to Wgan!
http://www.wigantoday.net/wigannews/Speed-guns-for-public-plan.4755395.jp

[yorkie_chris]

Zombie thread, there was some silly old fker and a plastic plod in a village near me doing this.

Fair placement TBH, on the way into village which has only as very small road going through it.

[G]

They have these in villages on the nice road between melton and market harborough. Spotted one the other day.

[mikelcfc]

am i right in sayin these commutity speedwatch things cant actually give you points or anything,, they can only give an indication of how many people speed etc, and pass on figures to the police and not details, e.g reg nos.?

[sunshine]

I cba to read the whole thread so if your caught by a civilian in England and Wales, they have no grounds to prosecute doesnt stop them sending NIP to people but if you argue it they wont let it stand, a civilian isnt a good enough professional witness to hold the camera to catch them. laws are slightly different in scotland so i have no idea if they can else where.

But i had a speeding ticket dropped because i asked for both pictures to identify the rider and the second didnt catch my full plate so in court it was argued and 2 photos are needed (hence the camera flashing twice) but i was moving to fast so the second picture missed my full plate (im not sure how) so they had no choice but to drop the charge.

[Red Herring]

Just to keep this thread in perspective, and given that this is supposed to have been around a while now...has anyone received, or know anybody who received, or even heard of anyone who received, any post from these people? Given all the alleged speeding we bikers collectively do I'd have thought if this was anything to worry about this thread wouldn't have been dormant for so long.

[lee67]

sorry to burst all your bubbles lads, but im a civillian speed enforcer for the police and i get to follow the speeding motorists on my everyday bike at speeds of up to 170(tl 1000) and record there speed over 1 mile ( enough for prosecuting)...my target per month is 100 motorists, this month ive managed 123 impending prosecutions...................................... ..............................................
.................................................. .................................................. ..
YEAH RIGHT LOL

[Bluefish]

so funny not.

[lee67]

ive always said if u cant do the time..dont do the crime...no point moaning, they have a job to do, ride to the law and u will be fine SIMPLESSSSSS

[Milky Bar Kid]

sorry to burst all your bubbles lads, but im a civillian speed enforcer for the police and i get to follow the speeding motorists on my everyday bike at speeds of up to 170(tl 1000) and record there speed over 1 mile ( enough for prosecuting)...my target per month is 100 motorists, this month ive managed 123 impending prosecutions...................................... ..............................................
.................................................. .................................................. ..
YEAH RIGHT LOL

Seriously, what was the point in that post?

[lukemillar]

Seriously, what was the point in that post?

Maybe there was a spider between him and the door and so he had no choice but to post crap on the org! :wink::p

:smt064

[Milky Bar Kid]

Yeh, i don't post crap on other peoples threads though. My thread was in idle banter, which is what it was. This is a section where people want to read sensible and informative posts!!

I just don't get why he posted it.

[lukemillar]

Yeh, i don't post crap on other peoples threads though. My thread was in idle banter, which is what it was. This is a section where people want to read sensible and informative posts!!

I just don't get why he posted it.

No idea! I guessing he was trying to be funny...

http://bravellir.com/gallery/d/6886-1/tumbleweed.gif

[Milky Bar Kid]

epic fail then. Anyway, derail.

[lee67]

light hearted fun, in a **** thread...cant understand why people moan about speed camera's/civilian speed cam ops etc etc blah de blah....:smt031

[Lozzo]

They have these in villages on the nice road between melton and market harborough. Spotted one the other day.

I spotted one in a village round that way today. Unfortunately I was in the car and stuck behind a slow moving truck and couldn't give it beans as I passed.

[Milky Bar Kid]

It is a topic that people will always be annoyed by. I haven't read the whole of this thread, read first couple of pages and then I read the last page but certainly, people didn't seem to be doing too much moaning about it, they seemed to be raising genuine concerns.

I can fully understand why people were unsure about this system due to the possibility it could be abused or that the people taking part could be targeted by people unhappy with their warnings/fines.

[ArtyLady]

epic fail then. Anyway, derail.

I thought it was quite funny ;)

[Lozzo]

sorry to burst all your bubbles lads, but im a civillian speed enforcer for the police and i get to follow the speeding motorists on my everyday bike at speeds of up to 170(tl 1000) and record there speed over 1 mile ( enough for prosecuting)...my target per month is 100 motorists, this month ive managed 123 impending prosecutions...................................... ..............................................
.................................................. .................................................. ..
YEAH RIGHT LOL

Do the Police really employ people as thick and illiterate as you?

It's no small wonder this country is going down the pan.

[lee67]

my point is..speed cams/guns wether its police or civilian is a fact of life, back when i started riding there was nothing like today, ..u could go anywhere at ful belt..and yes we did, todays state of affairs is i agree ****e' but its here and here to stay...just to add to my point, when i was riding home form squires on sunday, upon entering a very public built up village which was teaming with famalies etc going for a walk round the lake, 2 sportsbikes proceeeded to overtake me at ridicoulous speeds well in excess of 100 mph in a 30 limit...thats something ive never done in over 26 years of riding!...speed is fine in certain situations and roads ,not 30mph villages full of kids/prams/preganant mums need i go on...rant over..

[ArtyLady]

Do the Police really employ people as thick and illiterate as you?

...

How rude!!!! (second time I've been able to say that today!) ;)

[Red Herring]

Just to keep this thread in perspective, and given that this is supposed to have been around a while now...has anyone received, or know anybody who received, or even heard of anyone who received, any post from these people? Given all the alleged speeding we bikers collectively do I'd have thought if this was anything to worry about this thread wouldn't have been dormant for so long.

Bump... Anyone?:-k

[Lozzo]

How rude!!!! (second time I've been able to say that today!) ;)

It strikes me that there are a fair few posters here who use the site linked below to compose their posts

http://ssshotaru.homestead.com/files/aolertranslator.html

And besides - I like being rude, it's part of my internet persona.

[speedplay]

Ive had 2 warnings from the old dears that sit in rothersthorpe village now.
They sit there in folding chairs with blankets on their knees and a flask.
The first time I was warned for speeding I was at work in Rugby (roughly 30 miles away) the second time I was out on the bike in the peaks.

Its all down to who writes down the plates (or who you upset when your in the area I guess).

[davepreston]

what do these warning actually do, eg do the police come and say were watching you or is it more like jonny from number six says you stole my marbles ?

[speedplay]

More of the latter mate.
Just a letter in the post telling you that you were caught speeding by mrs moggings from number 6....


Watch out mrs moggings....I know where you live...

[-Ralph-]

The first time I was warned for speeding I was at work in Rugby (roughly 30 miles away) the second time I was out on the bike in the peaks

Even if this wasn't true, what's to stop you writing back to the council telling them to stuff their letter 'cos you were somewhere else and tell the old duffer who reported it to update his prescription? They can't PROVE nowt, even if you have been reported thrice!

[speedplay]

Even if this wasn't true, what's to stop you writing back to the council telling them to stuff their letter 'cos you were somewhere else and tell the old duffer who reported it to update his prescription? They can't PROVE nowt, even if you have been reported thrice!

I did write back and was told it was just a warning and not to worry about it.

What was annoying was it was the car first time and the bike the second so Its not like the car has been cloned.
I think its more of a case that I have annoyed someone who lives there that knows me ( highly likely!).

[Red Herring]

I did write back and was told it was just a warning and not to worry about it.

What was annoying was it was the car first time and the bike the second so Its not like the car has been cloned.
I think its more of a case that I have annoyed someone who lives there that knows me ( highly likely!).

This is what I was after. If they tell you not to worry about it then that tends to imply that it carries no weight at all, on the other hand it could just be the person telling you that was in "customer focus" mode and just trying to get rid of you quietly.

If the second part is potentially true (only Speedplay will know if he was actually speeding and entitled to those letters) then my concern would be the integrity of those carrying out the role, both with regard to the "intelligence" they are creating and their access to records.

[speedplay]

If the second part is potentially true (only Speedplay will know if he was actually speeding and entitled to those letters) then my concern would be the integrity of those carrying out the role, both with regard to the "intelligence" they are creating and their access to records.

I've been caught speeding and put my hand up to it before.
Its not good when you can prove your at work (cctv etc) when it happens though:(
It made me feel guilty to start with and then angry because I knew it was rubbish.
If an area needs a speed camera, put one there.
Dont use some idiot with more time than brains to do the job because its cheaper.

[ophic]

It strikes me that there are a fair few posters here who use the site linked below to compose their posts

http://ssshotaru.homestead.com/files/aolertranslator.html

And besides - I like being rude, it's part of my internet persona.
Class!

[ArtyLady]

It strikes me that there are a fair few posters here who use the site linked below to compose their posts

http://ssshotaru.homestead.com/files/aolertranslator.html

And besides - I like being rude, it's part of my internet persona.

Brilliant :lol: It gave me -



"Y R U SO RUDE????!?!! OMG LOL U WERANT LIEK TAHT WHEN I MET U" ;) :lol:

[SoulKiss]

Its what they come up with next is when it gets frightening.

An ideas for them...

Paedo-Watch, letting old men hang around schools to look for old men hanging around schools.

[speedplay]

Its what they come up with next is when it gets frightening.

An ideas for them...

Paedo-Watch, letting old men hang around schools to look for old men hanging around schools.

Apparently if you put that your a paedophile as your occupation when applying for insurance youll get a discount as they are happy that you will slow down round schools and keep an eye out for children.






Its just a sick joke before the PC brigade get on the case!!

[timwilky]

I have played at civil speed enforcement. Stopped the prat who mother lives round the corner from me and told him to stop driving like a cnut. until last year, there was no sign to say the speed after you turned off the 40mph A6 onto the little cul-de-sac where I live. 20 is way to fast, this individual would regularly do it at 60. OK personal opinion of his speed.

My personal opinion is that speed cameras, safety camera partnerships. civil enforcement are a waste of space. Save some money and dump the lot.

With the money saved, buy a few more traffic bobbies. They have the discretion to know what is safe and can also spot the drink/drug drivers, the dangerous cars etc. for better use of resources

[mikelcfc]

got a letter today sayin ive been caught exceeding 30 mph on xxxxx road in xxxxx on the 10th sep at 16 22... unfortunately, at that time i was in my car about 30 miles away..... its utter, bollo*ks and on that day my bike was wothout a front wheel. so work that out?? also it says that they can report you for excessive noise:confused:..., i may be getting a dew of them in the near future:-dd:-dd

[ophic]

got a letter today sayin ive been caught exceeding 30 mph on xxxxx road in xxxxx on the 10th sep at 16 22... unfortunately, at that time i was in my car about 30 miles away..... its utter, bollo*ks and on that day my bike was wothout a front wheel. so work that out?? also it says that they can report you for excessive noise:confused:..., i may be getting a dew of them in the near future:-dd:-dd
so someone borrowed your bike and wheelied past a speed camera? thats just outrageous!

[mikelcfc]

apparently so..... its actually just a joke tbh... theres just been another one setup about 100 yards down the road so that will be interesting..... am tempted to stop next time i see then and ask how many bikes get stolen, wheelied 3 miles away speeding, get back to my house without me knowing

[ArtyLady]

got a letter today sayin ive been caught exceeding 30 mph on xxxxx road in xxxxx on the 10th sep at 16 22... unfortunately, at that time i was in my car about 30 miles away..... its utter, bollo*ks and on that day my bike was wothout a front wheel. so work that out?? also it says that they can report you for excessive noise:confused:..., i may be getting a dew of them in the near future:-dd:-dd

I hope you've phoned and/or written and told them this!