Anyone own/owned a TL1000R?

[Dappa D]

what they like in the real world? heard the tank slapper widdow maker gumph but has anyone any views on it who has owned or owns one?

hard work to do the daily commute? just a weekend toy? safer if you add this or that?

basically, id like a thou (twin)....unfortunatley they dont make curvy thou's (do they?) and i simply just do not like the pointy....

the more i look at TLR's, the more im falling in love...it possibly has looks only a mother could love but is just beautiful imo....

any good links etc??

thanks in advance guys

Dappa D:cool:

[amnesia]

There is a TL website called TLZone...i think...

A friend had one and let me have a quick ride. It takes much more effort to go around corners, but pulled like train.

The tank slapper 'Widow-maker' reputation comes from the early 'S' models...the 'R' is a different animal. That was designed with superbike racing in mind as twins of the time could take advantage of an extra 250CC over the IL4's. It never made the grade though, and the IL4 GSXR750 was never replaced.

Its the 'S' that is closer to the curvy SV in appearance.





As a footnote...I didn't like it and my friend sold it after about 2 months to go back to an IL4.

[Dappa D]

thanks amnesia yup ive found tlzone looking now

[Dangerous Dave]

I have owned both a TL1000S and a TL1000R on the road, the widow maker claim is a load of BS and originally started by a bike magazine famous for riding like idiots. A lot of people will tell you that they are lethal and will slap all over the place, they tend to be the same people that haven't ridden one and read the comic books.

hard work to do the daily commute? just a weekend toy? safer if you add this or that?
Only you can answer that, what I may find comfortable others may not. A few riders fit the clip-ons from a TL1000S or aftermarket ones for a bit more raise. The seat, like the SV's, is comfortable to sit in for a couple of hundred miles but you wouldn't want to long distance tour with it.

basically, id like a thou (twin)....unfortunatley they dont make curvy thou's (do they?) and i simply just do not like the pointy....
A TL1000S is the closest, or a SV800S... ;)

the more i look at TLR's, the more im falling in love...it possibly has looks only a mother could love but is just beautiful imo...
I like it.

[Dappa D]

cheers Dave, had a feeling you may be along on this one and was interested in your opinion.

sounds good, obviously if it was a resounding NOOOOO from all angles id not delve further into TLdom....but as is I think this could be the next bike....

although this could all be pointless atm and depends on how much mr insurance decides to pay out (and when:() and/or..if im willing to sell my studio eqiupment..hhmmmm and how it feels on the test ride..

in the meantime ill just keep drooling over pics like this...

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn192/dappad/GCAD6RTTJCAZF7C41CAN5KZ5ACAECZ6YWCA.jpg
(£3395

[fizzwheel]

If you do get one try and get one thats had the rear rotary damper malarchy sorted out and IIRC the frames prone to cracking around the rear shock mount to. But I might be wrong on this...

I looked at getting one, but decided against it, they're getting on a bit now and all the ones I looked at looked to my eyes that they'd turn into a money pit very quickly and it put me off.

You need to try in your mind to disassociate yourself from the hooligan rep that the S has.

I'd get a test ride and make your own mind up, But IMHO you can buy a better litre twin for that kinda of money...

[yorkie_chris]

Why the R not the proper one?

I've seen S's for sale with pretty low mileage on what is a pretty strong motor for sale for £1500, so no, you really can't get a better litre twin for that money ;-)

£3300 for that R is taking the pi$$ though.

If I were to buy one I wouldn't touch one that hadn't had a maxton, ohlins or bitubo rear shock fitted.

[Dangerous Dave]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn192/dappad/GCAD6RTTJCAZF7C41CAN5KZ5ACAECZ6YWCA.jpg

Same colours as the one I had on the road, the one in the garage used to be yellow (now has white race plastics on) which I think suits the bike better in my opinion. I thought the Suzuki Blue'n'White made it look huge.

[Dangerous Dave]

the frames prone to cracking around the rear shock mount to. But I might be wrong on this...
That is the 'S'.

[fizzwheel]

£3300 for that R is taking the pi$$ though.

Thats what I was getting at with my "Get a better Litre twin for that kinda of money" comment.


If I were to buy one I wouldn't touch one that hadn't had a maxton, ohlins or bitubo rear shock fitted.

Neither would I. Its the advice I've been given by a few people that had owned TL's both S & R models.

[Dangerous Dave]

If I were to buy one I wouldn't touch one that hadn't had a maxton, ohlins or bitubo rear shock fitted.
I would agree and disagree with that, it takes a lot to overwhelm the rotary damper.

[yorkie_chris]

I would agree and disagree with that, it takes a lot to overwhelm the rotary damper.

Yup and I respect litre bikes a lot, and personally wouldn't feel comfortable riding one properly as standard. I ride the SV like a bit of a muppet at times, and wouldn't have a bigger bike unless it could handle well enough to accept the same stupidity without trying to kill me too much.

[fizzwheel]

it takes a lot to overwhelm the rotary damper.

I thought the actual issue was that the dampers to close the exhaust from the rear pot and the heat makes the oil in the damper go off and you end up with practically no rear damping ?

Again I'm not 100% sure this is the case.

[yorkie_chris]

I would agree and disagree with that, it takes a lot to overwhelm the rotary damper.

And the main thing is, it's a good bike that can be so much better.

[Dappa D]

im going by looks alone and prefer the R to the "proper one", like a curvy with lowers (but looks more...right?), as im of the curvy's with lowers rather than belly pans variety!

very early days yet as dont know whats happening with insurance, nor have I actually seen a TL in the flesh only pics on the net so far so i may get up close and personal and not like it!,
fizz and yc ill keep an eye open for these things u mention as and when im in the market, thanks for the help....3.5k is a lot for that bike admitedly, but if i had it...and on closer inspection the bike was sound...mmmmmmmm

[Dangerous Dave]

I thought the actual issue was that the dampers to close the exhaust from the rear pot and the heat makes the oil in the damper go off and you end up with practically no rear damping ?

Again I'm not 100% sure this is the case.
You are correct there Fizz, it is one issue but it will take a lot of ham-fistedness and lack of logically bike control for it to spit you off. I am not saying that there are no benefits to be had from upgrading the rear, learn to ride a litre twin as it should be ridden and the damper is sufficient. For many the TL was the first litre twin in the price range, they road it like a screaming IL4.

And the main thing is, it's a good bike that can be so much better.
Aye, the same can be said for any bike that gets a suspension fiddle, but the TL does come alive with a new shock I will give you that. Helps the idiots from a certain bike magazine to ride them.

[Dappa D]

, or a SV800S... ;)


.

that reminds me, did JHS do yours? what power at 800cc? and is it reliable with all the extra work or has it made the engine week?

I was looking at JHS prices for 750cc and 800cc think it was round the £1700 mark, id want a decent curvy - say 2k, twinshack lowers painted £300 and the 800cc mods £1700...so would be close to 4k ish....thats an expensive curvy!!

hence the thou idea....

[fizzwheel]

but it will take a lot of ham-fistedness and lack of logically bike control for it to spit you off.

But you can say that about any bike.

But yep the guy I spoke to about one, said that getting the rear shock sorted transformed the bike, but he also had alot of eletrical problems ( similar to the SV bad earth, chaffed wires etc ) on one of the TL's he had.

[yorkie_chris]

One of the bike mags did a very good review, they tried to make one slap and found out why, took rear damper to maxton and got them to put it on a shock dyno. Found it had way too much compression thus causing the slappers. This was done before suzuki recalled them to put rock hard steering dampers on them.

[Jase22]

For £3,300 you could get an SP1. IMO a better bike for the money.

You might even push it and get an SP2 in this climate.

[aarond]

iv got an s and had the same sort of questions as you before i got it. I think its great i have a bitubo shock coming from the states to get rid of the standard rear suspension then sending front of to maxton and should be transformed. She was ok the way she was but had a slight tendency to wiggle a bit when turning in quite fast and wouldnt stay planted. I think one of the mayor issues is you have to respect it 60is only like an inch up the speedo so can be very essay to run very fast into corners! Get it!!

[Dappa D]

For £3,300 you could get an SP1.

IMO a better bike for the money.

realistically id be looking at 2.5k max on any bike i get, i just happened to like the one i posted, and as yc says they are out there (well the s version) on bike trader for around the 1500 mark which wold leave some to spend on it

[Dangerous Dave]

that reminds me, did JHS do yours?
Yes and know, a lot of the components did come from them though. The 750cc original engine cam from them, only top-end work was mostly done.

what power at 800cc? and is it reliable with all the extra work or has it made the engine week?
109.6 bhp with 63ft/Ib

The only issue I ever had was with a component failure, this was later inspected and turned out to be a fault with the part which was redesigned after the manufacturer looked at it. I will admit that the 800 gets a little more work and checks done than any other SV, it became an 800cc earlier this year but the 7-8 years it was a 750cc it was 100% reliable and used as a daily commuter for a few of these years.

I was looking at JHS prices for 750cc and 800cc think it was round the £1700 mark, id want a decent curvy - say 2k, twinshack lowers painted £300 and the 800cc mods £1700...so would be close to 4k ish....thats an expensive curvy!!
That is just for the top end work, I don't recommend a 750cc without bottom end work as it is a waste of money because you are not using the full potential of the components and I would certainly not recommend a 800cc with just top end work.

It has taken 8-9 years to get it to the stage it is now.

[dyzio]

ad53ggz has one and I believe he started using it recently. He should be around soon :)

EDIT:
what did I tell you? ;)

[yorkie_chris]

Like at the top of this page? ;-)

R's look good as a 'fighter if you find a scraped one...

[dyzio]

yeah, somehow it took me 6 minutes to type the previous post :D

[Dappa D]

iv got an s and had the same sort of questions as you before i got it. I think its great i have a bitubo shock coming from the states to get rid of the standard rear suspension then sending front of to maxton and should be transformed. She was ok the way she was but had a slight tendency to wiggle a bit when turning in quite fast and wouldnt stay planted. I think one of the mayor issues is you have to respect it 60is only like an inch up the speedo so can be very essay to run very fast into corners! Get it!!

good to hear!, come on then fella any pics to *****?...err show me :-)

do you commute on it??

[aarond]

well dont commute much just now but em BAZ and saoralba can vouch for its filtering capabilities on the way to and from st andrews on the ice cream run!! It is slightly wider than the sv tho and the main problem for filtering the mirrors dont fold in!:cheers: The reason i am not commuting so much just now as i live in the north east of scotland just about every morning ice on the roads now and if there's not ice there is so much water lying at the minute not to mention all the salt so just trying to keep it a bit nice just now. Also dont believe all you here about fuel consumption it used 1 less litre of fuel than saoralba pointy between aberdeen and dundee and em i didnt hang about:rolleyes:. Pics are in another thread somewhere but you twisted my arm and i will post some more. If you can get one for the £1500 mark, you can then get new rear shock about £500 depending on type, and fronts redone by maxton £290ish. THen by what i can hear completely transforms it, the only bad moment i had was turning in cough fast and it shook a little but it was ok.

[yorkie_chris]

and I would certainly not recommend a 800cc with just top end work.

It has taken 8-9 years to get it to the stage it is now.

Because it will go pop.

You could build a motor like that quite quickly given enough cash... hell send jhs a blank cheque, and you'll have 100bhp in a fortnight :-P... the thing that takes the serious skill is porting the heads and revalving. Just a moderate skim and clean up is easy, but the big-valve heads you need to use a flow bench and lots of experience to get port shapes that work for good power all over not just top end.

One thing I don't get is why JHS recommend wiseco pistons on their website? They weight a lot more than stock, CP will sell you some pistons at same bore etc which save 11 grams and increase the bore!

[aarond]

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=118628 some here.

a couple that other people took ( sorry cant remember who) on the ice cream run.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u95/ad53ggz/user4482_pic1271_1228597348.jpg
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u95/ad53ggz/DSC01088.jpg
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u95/ad53ggz/user4482_pic1272_1228597348.jpghttp://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u95/ad53ggz/camera271108194.jpg

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=118628

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=118628

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=118628

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=118628

[Dappa D]

mmmmm cheers fella, looking at that maybe i do like the "s" afterall.......

[Dappa D]

Because it will go pop.

You could build a motor like that quite quickly given enough cash... hell send jhs a blank cheque, and you'll have 100bhp in a fortnight :-P... the thing that takes the serious skill is porting the heads and revalving. Just a moderate skim and clean up is easy, but the big-valve heads you need to use a flow bench and lots of experience to get port shapes that work for good power all over not just top end.

One thing I don't get is why JHS recommend wiseco pistons on their website? They weight a lot more than stock, CP will sell you some pistons at same bore etc which save 11 grams and increase the bore!

pretty much why i scrapped the idea, doing it gradually over time and doing it right im sure the end result is very rewarding and your left with one of (id imagine) very few sv800's.

but im skint and impatiant....

can you buy lowers for the s version ? ( i know i could do my own research!, and i will, but as were chatting about them anyway someone may know!

[Dangerous Dave]

your left with one of (id imagine) very few sv800's.
Only two in Europe I believe, the UK and France.


can you buy lowers for the s version ?
Yeap, Suzuki again (like the SV) made the best looking and best colour match. I think Powerbronze made some too but they are flimsy and will require painting to match

http://www.tcpsa.com/suzuki/tl1000a.jpg
http://www.tcpsa.com/suzuki/tl1000.jpg

[yorkie_chris]

You can't do it over time though, the billet crank needs to be put in, that's a total strip, so while you're at it you might as well fit the big pistons, balance crank to match, for that you need the billet liners.

The more steps you do it in, the more it costs you in gaskets.

[Dangerous Dave]

The more steps you do it in, the more it costs you in gaskets.
+ 1

[ThEGr33k]

One of the bike mags did a very good review, they tried to make one slap and found out why, took rear damper to maxton and got them to put it on a shock dyno. Found it had way too much compression thus causing the slappers. This was done before suzuki recalled them to put rock hard steering dampers on them.


I saw something like this too. They tested it a lot with the stock setup with steering damper, then without. They found when it was pushed hard on the track it didnt behave at all in stock trim.

Then they played about with tyre's which improved things then changed the suspension did more testing. They managed to get some resonable times out of it. Though it still wasnt what they wanted, it was setup to either wheelie too much or wheel spin out of corners. To be fair though you have to remember that on the road you shouldnt be pushing it that hard and if you are then... you stupid. :(

All in it should be a good bike with the right work doing. Like many 90's 1000cc V-twins (seems like this to me though) it needs the suspension setting up... but once it is should be a Joy to ride I dont doubt. :cool:

[Dangerous Dave]

To be fair though you have to remember that on the road you shouldnt be pushing it that hard and if you are then... you stupid. :(
My point exactly!


You forgot the Aprilia SL1000 Falco recommendation... ;)

[yorkie_chris]

You feeling alright greek?

lol beat me too it dave!

[aarond]

can you buy lowers for the s version ? ( i know i could do my own research!, and i will, but as were chatting about them anyway someone may know!


as previously said yeah you can, i bought my bike off someone i know he has the lowers at his sisters i think he said and plans to give them to me once he gets to his sisters.

Have you had a go on one yet? I saw one at my friend's dads then came back up here was offered a go on one, jumped at the chance then couldnt not buy it!!:smt040

[ThEGr33k]

My point exactly!


You forgot the Aprilia SL1000 Falco recommendation... ;)

You feeling alright greek?

lol beat me too it dave!


Thats because I knew you lot would for me. Basically... if you want a good cheap 1000V2 then the SL1000 is a good one. Best thing is to test ride a few and see what you think I guess. :cool:

[aarond]

http://www.tlzone.net/forums/filevault.php

scroll down to magazine articles!

[Dappa D]

http://www.tlzone.net/forums/filevault.php

scroll down to magazine articles!

?? cant see magazine articles...do i need to be registered?

[Dappa D]

You forgot the Aprilia SL1000 Falco recommendation... ;)

as i was typing "i want a twin thou " i was expecting nick to say the falco (which is something else ive been eyeing up) but atm its the tl winning the race

ive not test rode any of them yet, as said early days and my arm not fully fit yet, once it is, and insurance pays out, I can go look at some and ride them, will look at falco;s, TL's and sv's and try and ride them all and see what i prefer, but looks wize its the TLR

[kitkat]

what about one of these?

http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/motorcycles/bike-reviews/Cagiva/Raptor+1000/354/

[ThEGr33k]

I got to admit the TL is a pretty nice looking bike on the whole. A lot like the falco in that it seems to be a marmite bike. Some love the looks some hate them. :rolleyes:

If/when you do test them both then let us know what you think.

Remember though that both will be improved a LOT with some suspension mods/setup, the TL's issues you know about... The Falco seems to suffer from lack of rear ride height (an italian thing it seems) and a cheap rear shock. Put a RSV shock and linkage in there (cheap if your lucky on Ebay) and it becomes sharp and very easy to ride fast... many say easier to ride fast than the RSV! :twisted:

[Dappa D]

what about one of these?

http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/motorcycles/bike-reviews/Cagiva/Raptor+1000/354/

looks OK in naked form, but id like some fairing, just looked on bike trader theres 2 v-raptors on there with the 1/4 fairing....its not a pretty site!

[Dappa D]

I got to admit the TL is a pretty nice looking bike on the whole. A lot like the falco in that it seems to be a marmite bike. Some love the looks some hate them. :rolleyes:

If/when you do test them both then let us know what you think.

Remember though that both will be improved a LOT with some suspension mods/setup, the TL's issues you know about... The Falco seems to suffer from lack of rear ride height (an italian thing it seems) and a cheap rear shock. Put a RSV shock and linkage in there (cheap if your lucky on Ebay) and it becomes sharp and very easy to ride fast... many say easier to ride fast than the RSV! :twisted:

cheers mr Greek and ill let ya;ll know - hopefully end jan beginning of feb:cool:

[dizzyblonde]

meh never mind falcos and TLR...just buy yoursen a Raptor.....;)

TLS engine, and better than a Falco..:mrgreen:

[Dappa D]

meh never mind falcos and TLR...just buy yoursen a Raptor.....;)

TLS engine, and better than a Falco..:mrgreen:


FAIL!:smt019

[dizzyblonde]

FAIL!:smt019

Why, wots wrong with em? better than a bloody Falco:smt019

Oh and Im Indoors says...are they too manly for you:twisted:

[Dappa D]

Why, wots wrong with em? better than a bloody Falco:smt019

Oh and Im Indoors says...are they too manly for you:twisted:

ha! whats right with them? http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/bikes/CAGIVA+V+RAPTOR/Ne-2-4-7-8-27-64-104-133-146-236,N-239-4294959780-4294967132/advert.action?R=200836318212935&distance=166&postcode=BS10+6TP&channel=BIKES&make=CAGIVA&model=V+RAPTOR&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=

ewwwww

im indoors? youve made him up havnt you....come on....admit it!!! lol....sorry hun! dont like em!

[dizzyblonde]

well thats a red one....everyone admits that red raptors are ghey!!!
Have a look on ebay at the two Xtra raps, now they ain't ghey.

[aarond]

?? cant see magazine articles...do i need to be registered?
sorry mate think you do, and i dont think i can put files up on this site??

[Dappa D]

well thats a red one....everyone admits that red raptors are ghey!!!
Have a look on ebay at the two Xtra raps, now they ain't ghey.


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Cagiva-Xtra-Raptor-1000-2007_W0QQitemZ290281483486QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Mo torcycles?hash=item290281483486&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

slightly camp?;)

nah seriously the body of that one looks quite nice, but that nose?? not for me....dare i say it without causing to much offence...i think id rather have a p*inty[-o<

[Dappa D]

sorry mate think you do, and i dont think i can put files up on this site??

thats alright im going to regester when i can be ar sed...supposed to be working..

but i "work" from home on wednesdays so tommorrow ill have a proper gander;)

[dizzyblonde]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Cagiva-Xtra-Raptor-1000-2007_W0QQitemZ290281483486QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Mo torcycles?hash=item290281483486&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

slightly camp?;)

nah seriously the body of that one looks quite nice, but that nose?? not for me....dare i say it without causing to much offence...i think id rather have a p*inty[-o<

ahh, now thats wot most people say, til they've seen em for real. However more are swayed towards the nakid version, which aren't as manly looking;)

As fer Im Indoors, well I may let him out of the dungeon to argue his case...lol:p

[Dappa D]

hehehe...hey you guyssssss!!

[yorkie_chris]

Raptor is nice, as standard it's tuned for more torque than the TLS with a different exhaust system. You can make it same standard as the TLS with a set of cans. The TLR is more IL4 like in its power delivery, and more racy in riding position.

[carnivore]

ha! whats right with them? http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/bikes/CAGIVA+V+RAPTOR/Ne-2-4-7-8-27-64-104-133-146-236,N-239-4294959780-4294967132/advert.action?R=200836318212935&distance=166&postcode=BS10+6TP&channel=BIKES&make=CAGIVA&model=V+RAPTOR&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=

ewwwww

im indoors? youve made him up havnt you....come on....admit it!!! lol....sorry hun! dont like em!

Raptor are an aquired taste but at least they handle properly out of the box. TL's are a good bike but obviously not for less experienced riders like youself. :D The TLR is just a little more complex than the s as it has 2 injectors per cylinder therefore uses more fuel. tank range is only about 90 mile, bit silly really. TLS is the bike to have anyhow. less plastic to replace. :cool:

[ThEGr33k]

FAIL!:smt019

He he.

Why, wots wrong with em? better than a bloody Falco:smt019

Oh and Im Indoors says...are they too manly for you:twisted:


I got to say I think the raptor's are nice... but they arnt my cuppa tea. :( They look a little girly in my opinion... Sorry carnivore. :(

[carnivore]

They look a little girly in my opinion... Sorry carnivore. :(

Well at least we have the same problem of getting spares, only difference is i havent had any need for body panels etc. :-D Besides proper v-twins are 90 degrees. Anything less is the domain of cruisers and balancer shafts.

[yorkie_chris]

And anything more is the domain of BMWs, slippers and penchants for pipe tobacco.

[ThEGr33k]

Well at least we have the same problem of getting spares, only difference is i havent had any need for body panels etc. :-D

You taking the micky? :(

Besides proper v-twins are 90 degrees. Anything less is the domain of cruisers and balancer shafts.

I dont really have any problems with parts... Body work is expensive but everything else is fine these days :)

I do like 90* twins... But I got to say the best sound ive ever heard was a 03 RSV-R with a blue flame exhaust. OH BABY! :cool:

[yorkie_chris]

Of course he's taking the mickey, you will buy a faired bike...

[ThEGr33k]

Of course he's taking the mickey, you will buy a faired bike...


I know... Stupid mistake I made. Im gutted still tbh. Embarasing!

One think I believe from it, the council's should deffo make sure cats eye's work right. Im certain if the ones on that road were I would have been able to see where the road went. :rolleyes:

Anyway I derail too much. Though I guess what was asked has been answered now so it doesnt matter? :p

[kitkat]

[quote=dizzyblonde;1713528]well thats a red one....everyone admits that red raptors are ghey!!!
[quote]

excuse me Ms blond, mine is red and looks lovely. will be even better once its painted though:p

[dizzyblonde]

[quote=dizzyblonde;1713528]well thats a red one....everyone admits that red raptors are ghey!!!
[quote]

excuse me Ms blond, mine is red and looks lovely. will be even better once its painted though:p

I was meaning the V ones honest:smt083what colour ya doin?

[Dappa D]

yea questions answered now greek feel free to derail as much as you like...

carnivore, as you say its an aquired taste, and its not to my liking, im sure its a great bike, michelle mcmanus might be amazing in bed...but sh'e still michelle mcmanus.....eye of the beholder and all that!
i dont have a mass of experience, agreed, but its the rider who decides how he rides not the bike?
I should have been quicker yesterday when you posted as I see fizz has edited your post...nothing to derogatory I hope!!

thanks for the help all

[kitkat]

[quote=kitkat;1713992][quote=dizzyblonde;1713528]well thats a red one....everyone admits that red raptors are ghey!!!


I was meaning the V ones honest:smt083what colour ya doin?

I thought you must have meant that lol. Im getting it painted passion purple :cool:

[Dappa D]

hhmmmm just got a quote via bennetts for a 2000 TL-R valued at £2500

TPFT = £1222.34....

maybe this is this main stinger for my lack of experience (no no claims)

[aarond]

hhmmmm just got a quote via bennetts for a 2000 TL-R valued at £2500

TPFT = £1222.34....

maybe this is this main stinger for my lack of experience (no no claims)


im 20 2 years no claims tptf to insure both my sv and tl is £600. Dont use bennets there best quote for me was £2500 on a multi bike policy. Im now using MCN

[Dappa D]

im 20 2 years no claims tptf to insure both my sv and tl is £600. Dont use bennets there best quote for me was £2500 on a multi bike policy. Im now using MCN

interesting! bennets were the best on th sv so i automatcally tried them, will look at mcn cheers fella, i have no no claims and im 27

[ThEGr33k]

*EDIT* Try THIS!! Its good! (https://bikeinsurance.tescofinance.com/cheapest-quote/default.aspx?refid=BT002) It'll find you a cheap quote. Got all the main insurers in there that I can see. Id never use bennetts again to be honest. Urg. Try H&R insurance OMFG! £570 FC 4 Year NCB protected. :D

I insured the SL1000 for £714 fully comp with MCN, im 22 N' got 3 years NCB...

TL probably wont be a cheap one to insure with it being notorious?

[aarond]

TL probably wont be a cheap one to insure with it being notorious?
i dont know fairly happy with my insurance price!:smt040

[Dappa D]

i thought it was a bit steep!

especially when a Yamaha thunderace (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.motorcycle.com/Review/acespa.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.motorcycle.com/1996-yamaha-yzf1000r-thunderace-17071.html&usg=__TofX9Irpb-FcnxCJv0wrE4Zq4sA=&h=353&w=474&sz=40&hl=en&start=10&um=1&tbnid=y_jG38VVwAUJdM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=129&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dyamaha%2Bthunderace%26um%3D1%26hl%3De n%26sa%3DN ) is £455

just thought id see what it was for it as my brother in law has one!! but like i say all this is on bennetts not shopped around yet will do more once the insurance pays out!

[ThEGr33k]

i thought it was a bit steep!

especially when a Yamaha thunderace (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.motorcycle.com/Review/acespa.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.motorcycle.com/1996-yamaha-yzf1000r-thunderace-17071.html&usg=__TofX9Irpb-FcnxCJv0wrE4Zq4sA=&h=353&w=474&sz=40&hl=en&start=10&um=1&tbnid=y_jG38VVwAUJdM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=129&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dyamaha%2Bthunderace%26um%3D1%26hl%3De n%26sa%3DN ) is £455

just thought id see what it was for it as my brother in law has one!! but like i say all this is on bennetts not shopped around yet will do more once the insurance pays out!


Make sure you try that link I posted above!!!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=od-ZoETeJIY Have a gander. Pretty cool :D Damn Yanks with their roads lol.

[Dappa D]

niiiiiiice...bloke on the camera got a bit worried.."slow down, slow down!" we need these roads here...

ill try that link later thanks for that, off for physio now :-(

[Dangerous Dave]

TL probably wont be a cheap one to insure with it being notorious?
That has nothing to do with the insurance, and it is notorious for having owners which can't ride a bike properly by the way.

[ThEGr33k]

That has nothing to do with the insurance, and it is notorious for having owners which can't ride a bike properly by the way.


Good reason to charge them more... Its all down to risk isnt it. If they think they crash more often than another bike then they'll charge more. Or at least thats how I understand it. :confused:

[Dangerous Dave]

Good reason to charge them more... Its all down to risk isnt it. If they think they crash more often than another bike then they'll charge more. Or at least thats how I understand it. :confused:
Theft more than anything, that is why the race-rep 125's are more expensive to insure than an SV for a 20 year old. Not much care and attention is also shown by the majority of riders at that age.

TL crashes are not as high as the IL4 brigade.

[ThEGr33k]

Theft more than anything, that is why the race-rep 125's are more expensive to insure than an SV for a 20 year old. Not much care and attention is also shown by the majority of riders at that age.

TL crashes are not as high as the IL4 brigade.


Aye guess that is true.

Guess that's why the SP's are so stupid expensive then. :rolleyes:

[dizzyblonde]

Unfortunately insurance companies aren't very keen at giving out good insurance quotes for young blokes. When I got Suze off im indoors, his insurance on her was some 500 odd quid and he'd been riding around 7 or more years by then(at 26)..I got her insured her for around 350 straight off with only a years no claims(at 28).

However I can still insure his Raptor for less than him now(at 31):smt040 must be summat to do with being an old burd, hes now got some 10 yrs of riding under his belt(now 29), and they still like to make him pay more than me:confused:.

[Tim in Belgium]

I got to admit the TL is a pretty nice looking bike on the whole. A lot like the falco in that it seems to be a marmite bike. Some love the looks some hate them. :rolleyes:

Yep you're right there Gr33k, I love the look of the TL1000R in the right colour, and the Falco looks awfull.....






















Don't worry, this power ranger's only messing, I think the Falco looks better in the flesh than the photos, but for pure aesthetics I'd go Tl1000R....

[svrich]

Only one I've ever seen was going down the back straight at Snetterton on its left foot peg! The rider was a first timer running only 14psi in the rear tyre though :o. Poor woman only made it round two bends, on the first lap.

[Dappa D]

*EDIT* Try THIS!! Its good! (https://bikeinsurance.tescofinance.com/cheapest-quote/default.aspx?refid=BT002) It'll find you a cheap quote.

now thats a bit better :smt040...£500.93 for a yr2000 model TL1000R valued at £2500, parked on drive with almax security. TPFT.

less than half the bennetts quote!

[ThEGr33k]

Glad I could help :)