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Kate Moss
10-12-08, 04:15 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/honda-vfr-400-nc24_W0QQitemZ190272672573QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Mo torcycles?hash=item190272672573&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A7%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318#eb ayphotohosting (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/honda-vfr-400-nc24_W0QQitemZ190272672573QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Mo torcycles?hash=item190272672573&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:7|39:1|240:1318#ebayphotohosting )
pencil shavings
10-12-08, 04:22 PM
for 99p Id say its a bargin ;)
But I have no knowledge of them, so I can comment, looks nice and clean though.
Looks nice, interstellar mileage though. And why the new ignition lock? Stolen-recovered? HPI it first, I reckon.
If it's a recent paint job, what's its factory colour scheme, what does the log book say? Is it really a "Rothmans Limited edition"? Service history for how many of its 90k miles?
Questions questions :)
Kate Moss
10-12-08, 04:25 PM
Looks nice, interstellar mileage though. And why the new ignition lock? Stolen-recovered? HPI it first, I reckon.
If it's a recent paint job, what's its factory colour scheme, what does the log book say? Is it really a "Rothmans Limited edition"? Service history for how many of its 90k miles?
Questions questions :)
umm how do I answer these questions?!!! :confused:
I cant remember my ebay login details - doh!
umm how do I answer these questions?!!! :confused:
Ask the seller :)
Kate Moss
10-12-08, 04:29 PM
Phiiiiiiiiiiiiiilllllll (or anyone!) you ask!!! I dunno what Im talking about!!!
Was it the 87 or the 88 model of the VFR that's a right bugger to get parts for. I was trying the get head gasget set for one a few months ago for a mate and you can't get them any more other then for huge prices direct from Japan. So watch out, as alot of the parts a not made any more.
Kate Moss
10-12-08, 04:37 PM
OOOH THANKS GRINCH!
Im sure phil will take one look at this thread and say it's a bad idea (i though of it first so it must be!!!)
jumjum_0214
10-12-08, 04:45 PM
Dont touch it with a barge pole!!!!!!!!
Too many miles, possible dodgy history due to new paint & requirement for ignition barrel.
You could get something far more user friendly, with lower miles for the same sort of money.
Run away Mrs 24/7 and erase this pile of turd from your mind ;-)
Kate Moss
10-12-08, 04:48 PM
I want something light, and good looking! oh and affordable please!
I want something light, 250 bhp + and good looking! oh and affordable please!
:shock:
For the future, High miles is not a bad thing in a older bike. Its a good bargining point, ignition is rather a 'STOP' and look somewhere else. Have a look on Autotrader and see what they go for on there. CB400SF (NC31) are good little bikes, Hondas, reliable and like little Bandits with-out the rot factor.
Kate Moss
10-12-08, 04:55 PM
:shock:
told you i didnt know what i was talking about!!! lol
jumjum_0214
10-12-08, 04:57 PM
How about this? Its down your way?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Suzuki-GSF-600-Bandit-1996_W0QQitemZ220323454974QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Mo torcycles?hash=item220323454974&_trksid=p3913.c0.m22
missyburd
10-12-08, 04:58 PM
lmao Kate, 250bhp? Phil's taught you well! :-P
What are you on atm?
Kwak Ninja 250R. Lightweight, easy to handle, within the 33bhp restriction and does look good. Pics on my profile :cool:
fizzwheel
10-12-08, 05:12 PM
With a busy ignition lock, I'd be asking alot of questions.
TBH I've never seen the fascination with those 400's especially the older ones.
My brother had an RVF, it wasnt any lighter than my SV was and IMHO it wasnt as nice to ride either. I dont know what the NC24 is like.
You dont need a light bike, you need to keep plugging away with the SV. It'll pay dividends in the long run IMHO.
Dont touch it with a barge pole!!!!!!!!
Too many miles, possible dodgy history due to new paint & requirement for ignition barrel.
You could get something far more user friendly, with lower miles for the same sort of money.
Run away Mrs 24/7 and erase this pile of turd from your mind ;-)
Firstly I wouldn't touch it, but not for the reasons you're stating.
It's an NC24, not the most desireable of the VFR400s, It has odd wheel sizes (16"F and 18" rear) which limit the choice of tyres, parts are difficult to get hold of because they weren't a long lived model in Japan let alone here where they were never officially imported.
It does have too many miles on it for the money. I recently bought one for a friend for 400 quid in si,miliar condition, and I've seen the far better NC30s going for anything from 600 quid upwards.
The fact it has been repainted means nothing at all. There are thousands of bikes out there that have been crashed and rebuilt, I'm riiding one myself, I just chose to buy new panels rather than have mine repainted. Buying new panels was actually cheaper than getting a race replica paintjob done on the damaged ones, so that's the 'cheap bodge job' argument right out of the window.
Having aftermarket paint doesn't mean it has been previously written off beyond all safe repair and I wish some clueless twonks would stop spouting their paranoid ill-informed mouths off about this sort of thing. I know of loads of prefectly good bikes that got race replica paint jobs just because the owner fancied one. One of my mates had his NC30 painted in Rothmans colours only a couple of years ago, his bike was previously immaculate but he just fancied a change. Having aftermarket paint doesn't ever add value to the bike, and in some cases it will devalue it as most people want a standard one.
The NC24 is one of the most user-friendly bikes you can ever hope to find. the seat height is stupidly low for shorter people, it has a torquey little engine that will pull like a train from tickover right up to the high red line. The brakes are excellent even by modern standards, the suspension and handling are sublime. I don't know where JumJum got his information from, I just hope he didn't pay money for it because it's useless.
You have to bear in mind that this is a 20 year old bike with stratospheric mileage. In that time things like the ignition switch will possibly have worn out, hence it has been changed for a new one. it will almost certainly have been dropped, hence it has fresh paintwork, and it will almost certainly have been in the hands of at least one or two owners who don't have a clue how to look after it, siimply because that's the type of owner these things attract. They need religiously regular maintenance, and I'll bet this one hasn't had an oil/filter change every 3000 miles.
I sound like I'm defending it, but I'm not. It's an old bike, with too many miles and parts are hard to find. Over the years I've bought and sold more bikes than most people have had hot dinners, it's more than a hobby it's a small business to me and I watch what's going on closely. Like I said, I wouldn't buy it for those reasons, not the ones stated in the quoted text above.
My last word... AVOID.
How about this? Its down your way?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Suzuki-GSF-600-Bandit-1996_W0QQitemZ220323454974QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Mo torcycles?hash=item220323454974&_trksid=p3913.c0.m22
If Kate is having trouble coping with her SV then she won't have a hope in hell with coping with a Bandit 600. They are lardy and all the weight is up top, plus the seat height is taller than the SV.
I want something light, and good looking! oh and affordable please!
Me?
lol
dizzyblonde
10-12-08, 06:17 PM
Hun i would keep going with the SV..you've not had it long and you need to give yourself time to get used to it. There was a time when i used to get im Indoors to move it everywhere, I found it exceptionally hard to get off the sidestand, and with a dodgy back and duff shoulders everywhere just hurt after riding it. BUT, now I'm like Olive Oil with popeye muscles because I never gave up, I ride it with a full load on the back and I can still lift it...just don't ask me to pick it off the floor with a full tank:mad:
The bike on ebay is OLD and everyones giving you useful info about it, I don't know about them so i can't comment..not all bikes that are old are naff, but they come with a multitude of sins do old bikes, stick with what your getting used to and before long you'll wonder why you wanted to replace it:mrgreen:
And I thoroughly agree with what Lozzo says about the bandit too,
joshmac
10-12-08, 06:23 PM
Me?
lol
Damn! Beat me to it :lol:
Phil getting a bit lardy, weathered and expensive? :p
#Runs!# :mrgreen:
jumjum_0214
11-12-08, 06:09 PM
Firstly I wouldn't touch it, but not for the reasons you're stating.
It's an NC24, not the most desireable of the VFR400s, It has odd wheel sizes (16"F and 18" rear) which limit the choice of tyres, parts are difficult to get hold of because they weren't a long lived model in Japan let alone here where they were never officially imported.
It does have too many miles on it for the money. I recently bought one for a friend for 400 quid in si,miliar condition, and I've seen the far better NC30s going for anything from 600 quid upwards.
The fact it has been repainted means nothing at all. There are thousands of bikes out there that have been crashed and rebuilt, I'm riiding one myself, I just chose to buy new panels rather than have mine repainted. Buying new panels was actually cheaper than getting a race replica paintjob done on the damaged ones, so that's the 'cheap bodge job' argument right out of the window.
Having aftermarket paint doesn't mean it has been previously written off beyond all safe repair and I wish some clueless twonks would stop spouting their paranoid ill-informed mouths off about this sort of thing. I know of loads of prefectly good bikes that got race replica paint jobs just because the owner fancied one. One of my mates had his NC30 painted in Rothmans colours only a couple of years ago, his bike was previously immaculate but he just fancied a change. Having aftermarket paint doesn't ever add value to the bike, and in some cases it will devalue it as most people want a standard one.
The NC24 is one of the most user-friendly bikes you can ever hope to find. the seat height is stupidly low for shorter people, it has a torquey little engine that will pull like a train from tickover right up to the high red line. The brakes are excellent even by modern standards, the suspension and handling are sublime. I don't know where JumJum got his information from, I just hope he didn't pay money for it because it's useless.
You have to bear in mind that this is a 20 year old bike with stratospheric mileage. In that time things like the ignition switch will possibly have worn out, hence it has been changed for a new one. it will almost certainly have been dropped, hence it has fresh paintwork, and it will almost certainly have been in the hands of at least one or two owners who don't have a clue how to look after it, siimply because that's the type of owner these things attract. They need religiously regular maintenance, and I'll bet this one hasn't had an oil/filter change every 3000 miles.
I sound like I'm defending it, but I'm not. It's an old bike, with too many miles and parts are hard to find. Over the years I've bought and sold more bikes than most people have had hot dinners, it's more than a hobby it's a small business to me and I watch what's going on closely. Like I said, I wouldn't buy it for those reasons, not the ones stated in the quoted text above.
My last word... AVOID.
Thats a very long post just to say "AVOID". The long and short of this Lozzo my old mate is you agree with me ;) and this bike is no good!!!!!!!!!!
phil24_7
14-12-08, 03:00 AM
Cheers Loz for your useful and informative post.
She will be sticking with the 125 till spring, then the SV from there. If she REALLY can't get to grips with it then I get my track bike back and she can have something a bit smaller!
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