View Full Version : Taking a test to ditch the 33bhp restriction, is it worth it?
fizzwheel
14-12-08, 10:06 PM
how long till your restriction is up ?
DarrenSV650S
14-12-08, 10:11 PM
If the 33bhp is bothering you that much it might be easier to just forget to plug in the restrictor one day;)
I wasn't in that much of a rush to get it off when I passed so just waited. But after about a year and a half I felt my riding had improved a lot and took the restrictor out
stuballs
14-12-08, 10:11 PM
I don't think it'd be worth the money. In my experience it's only really the peak power that suffers. Tho that was a 400. Depends how long you've got left and how much cash you have (and how fast you want to go!)
stuballs
14-12-08, 10:12 PM
why did you do you test 3 months before you were 21? Why not just wait and do the DAS?
thefallenangel
14-12-08, 10:13 PM
i'd consider it
but it's up to you moneywise etc . . at the end of the day it will go eventually but it depends,do you have £300 to do it if not more (dunno about theory test, time off work etc . . . ).
My mate passed his 33bhp test friday and has this decision in 10 months time but i think he'll just hang it out but for another 9 months on top i'd consider it. But again 33bhp is enough use but it's nice to stretch an engine out when no ones looking and if a rideouts pace is pretty fast.
if you can aford it, i would go for it
How does the restriction law work. If you are under 21 when you pass your test do you still have a two year restriction.
Also if you are under 19 when you pass your test and two years of restriction pass are you then unrestricted or is it until you are 21 no matter what.
Final question, when you turn twenty one and have two years experience do you have to take another test or is the restriction simply lifted???
Please exscuse the abundance of questions. :confused:
fizzwheel
14-12-08, 10:16 PM
can you afford to do it ? If so then get on with it.
If not, then dont, in the mean time spend as much time working away at your general riding skills, then when it does come off you'll be able to really get the benefit from the extra BHP.
I've ridden with somebody on a restricted SV, he kept up with full power SV's and bigger bikes no problem. Its all about how you ride not how much power you have.
fizzwheel
14-12-08, 10:19 PM
i dont think i have got a plug in restrictor
You have a pointy dont you ?
If so the restriction is done with the ECU, to de-restrict it just plug a full power ECU in instead.
But ( theres always one ) think long and hard about doing this before you do it if you are planning on doing it whilst holding a restricted license still.
i dont think i have got a plug in restrictor
you just swap the cdi/ecu thingy under the pillion seat
but your insurance will be void, and technicly you will be riding without a license
DarrenSV650S
14-12-08, 10:20 PM
If you are under 21 when you pass your test do you still have a two year restriction. Yes
Also if you are under 19 when you pass your test and two years of restriction pass are you then unrestricted or is it until you are 21 no matter what.
After 2 years you will be unrestricted, whether you are under 21 or not
Final question, when you turn twenty one and have two years experience do you have to take another test or is the restriction simply lifted???
Simply lifted
Please exscuse the abundance of questions. :confused:
You are excused
But i wondering how much better it would be unrestricted.
from what i understand, these not much differance up to 7000rpm
and you should still be able to get just over 100mph
Would i have to apply for a new license to the DVLA after my two years or will it just be seen that two years has passed since my "valid from date" on my license???
DarrenSV650S
14-12-08, 10:26 PM
It bothered me most on a fast ride. In the corners I could keep up no bother, but started falling back at about 90mph on the straights
fizzwheel
14-12-08, 10:27 PM
Would i have to apply for a new license to the DVLA after my two years or will it just be seen that two years has passed since my "valid from date" on my license???
I dont think so no.
I think you can send it off to the DVLA once your restriction period is over to have it removed, but they'll charge you for it.
DarrenSV650S
14-12-08, 10:27 PM
Would i have to apply for a new license to the DVLA after my two years or will it just be seen that two years has passed since my "valid from date" on my license???
Once your 2 years restriction is up you don't need to do anything. Except find out your new top speed;)
i happened to be following a curvy today and i reckon it must of been unrestricted cause this is exactly what happend to me, the i had to full bore to keep up
curvys 1 pointy 0
;)
fizzwheel
14-12-08, 10:31 PM
i happened to be following a curvy today and i reckon it must of been unrestricted cause this is exactly what happend to me, the i had to full bore to keep up
Like I said learn to use what you've got, it'll pay big dividends later on in your biking career.
thefallenangel
14-12-08, 10:31 PM
yep don't have to do nothing. Next time you have to get a new license from the DVLA it shouldn't be on there at all.
There are throttle body stops available from FI international too apparently.
Cheers guys. :)
:mrgreen: curvys 1 pointy 0
;)
jans1971
14-12-08, 10:38 PM
remember in your first 2 years of riding, you cant get 6 or more points on your license, if you do its back down to the test centre , so being at 33bhp does help not speeding to much.
thefallenangel
14-12-08, 10:40 PM
remember in your first 2 years of riding, you cant get 6 or more points on your license, if you do its back down to the test centre , so being at 33bhp does help not speeding to much.
no in 30mph, 40mph zones it dont and if he's already got a car license he's probably out of the window
DarrenSV650S
14-12-08, 10:40 PM
remember in your first 2 years of riding, you cant get 6 or more points on your license, if you do its back down to the test centre , so being at 33bhp does help not speeding to much.
Unless you have been driving a car for 2 years previous
DarrenSV650S
14-12-08, 10:41 PM
snap!
sorry mate but are sure about this, .
yes
DarrenSV650S
14-12-08, 10:51 PM
sorry mate but are sure about this, because if so thats wicked as i was worried that if i got nicked i would loose my car licence as well.
I have been driving cars for almost 4 years.
Yes. You can get up to 11 points on your licence now:smt040
If you're getting bored just whip them out anyway.
If it hasn't been done by the ECU, there's two washers in the in the top of the throttle body/bottom of the airbox and a throttle stop on the side of the throttle body were the throttle cables are.
Takes 30 mins.
Just take it easy and watch were you open it up. ;)
I'd take the restriction off myself. Someone (who wasn't me) did that and even got stopped a couple of times, the issue never even came up. As the last post says though, it can be difficult coping with a lot of new power especially with the road conditions as they are at the moment, ride safe!
Unless you have been driving a car for 2 years previous
yep agree with this as i was the same, and i rang dvla and they told me that because my card had been two years and done my bike wouldnt be, my mate had it as well and he phoned dvla and was told the same.
also with removing your ristriction kit if you do do it, dont get its power run as if the police/insurance find this you will be done for no insurance / no licence.
it can be difficult coping with a lot of new power especially with the road conditions as they are at the moment, ride safe!
+1
As said before, I'd also say keep it, and you'll benefit from it in the long run.
stuballs
15-12-08, 09:09 AM
yep don't have to do nothing. Next time you have to get a new license from the DVLA it shouldn't be on there at all.
Incorrect I'm afraid. I sent my licence off to change my address (which is free) and wouldn't take the restriction off the licence without me paying. Told them to stick it. Daylight robbery! It doesn't matter if it stays on there after the two years. Most coppers understand the rules.
Dangerous Dave
15-12-08, 12:42 PM
Personally I would keep the restrictor in or take the DAS. Removing the restrictors before entitled is against the law, you will be riding with no licence and no insurance.
SoulKiss
15-12-08, 12:48 PM
If you're getting bored just whip them out anyway.
If it hasn't been done by the ECU, there's two washers in the in the top of the throttle body/bottom of the airbox and a throttle stop on the side of the throttle body were the throttle cables are.
Takes 30 mins.
Just take it easy and watch were you open it up. ;)
And you sir, are a ****
Dappa D
15-12-08, 12:50 PM
Would i have to apply for a new license to the DVLA after my two years or will it just be seen that two years has passed since my "valid from date" on my license???
eh?????
are you restricted?? didnt seem that way on the wales ride out??
vardypeeps
15-12-08, 01:36 PM
If you have the cash, YES get it done and out of the way!
Dave20046
15-12-08, 01:46 PM
If you can afford it then do the test if you want but after only 3months in and reading your posts on the thread thus far I would advise against taking them out illegally right now. You can learn the sv extremely well with the restrictors in making you a better rider when they're ready to come out, plus it's fast enough at 33bhp to cause some damage anyway (scars to prove it).
yes
ive been driving for over 2 years and when i passed last month was told by the tester that im back on the 2 year max of 6 points thing so again are you sure of this??
yorkie_chris
15-12-08, 05:57 PM
The 6 points thing affects the first license you gain, ring DVLA or citizens advice to check if you want, I'm sure it's on the DVLA website too ;-)
thefallenangel
15-12-08, 05:57 PM
The 6 points thing affects the first license you gain, ring DVLA or citizens advice to check if you want, I'm sure it's on the DVLA website too ;-)
+1.
Dangerous Dave
15-12-08, 05:58 PM
I was just interested to see if people thought it was worth it or not.
No, the SV is one of the best bikes out there to have restricted. The V-twin is far better than an IL4 when restricted, the torque/grunt is still there low down in the rev range.
I have never owned a restricted bike, I have ridden a few and I would rate the SV as the best.
The 6 points thing affects the first license you gain, ring DVLA or citizens advice to check if you want, I'm sure it's on the DVLA website too ;-)
i stand corrected!!!
DarrenSV650S
15-12-08, 06:23 PM
ive been driving for over 2 years and when i passed last month was told by the tester that im back on the 2 year max of 6 points thing so again are you sure of this??
Well put it this way. I had 6 points on my license when I was restricted
wouldnt bother to be honest at the end of the day it's only two years and it's not exactly painfull the restriction on the sv due to the engine being a good un.
Alpinestarhero
15-12-08, 06:37 PM
Depends on how you ride. I'm derestricted now (since 12th july) and it hasn't made a big world of differance, only really when I neeeeed extra power but the way I ride, I don't use alot of power (small throttle movments, keep the revs up a bit, lots of forward planning).
but
omg
The surge of power in third gear and the way the SV pulls!!!! you go out on your sv and see how the power tails off rapidly after 7500 rpm. A restricted bike keeps pulling and pulling.
And its louder on wider throttle openings
:smt040
yorkie_chris
15-12-08, 06:40 PM
wouldnt bother to be honest at the end of the day it's only two years and it's not exactly painfull the restriction on the sv due to the engine being a good un.
I dunno, if I could I'd get rid of the restriction. No such thing as too much power.
richie95
15-12-08, 06:41 PM
do a das before they change the test
Alpinestarhero
15-12-08, 06:46 PM
I dunno, if I could I'd get rid of the restriction. No such thing as too much power.
In certain situations, more power is a wonderfull thing, makes certain overtakes safer, and makes attempting to keep up with far more experianced riders on GSXR's easier
Although, i found that for 90% of the time, 33 bhp was enough.
at the end of the day it depends what you want to do with the bike if your gonna put the hammer down often then das would be a good idea(or bad if your lacking common sense ahaha) normal riding though and it's not too bad.
SoulKiss
15-12-08, 06:57 PM
ive been driving for over 2 years and when i passed last month was told by the tester that im back on the 2 year max of 6 points thing so again are you sure of this??
You didnt get a new licence when you passed - you gained extra entitlement.
SoulKiss
15-12-08, 06:59 PM
do a das before they change the test
Doesnt need a DAS, just needs to show up for a test on a bike he is insured to ride.
A mate with a full license could pillion him there and back.
The insurance is the potentially tricky bit.
scottjames
15-12-08, 09:25 PM
id ride the thing and stop thinkin bout it, the more you ride the less you'll think bout it and use the 300 odd quid to trick your bike out with a few bits. 33bhp is enough, give your self a chance before you start going up the ranks. theres certainly more you can learn from your 33bhp before you NEED more power. :)
yorkie_chris
15-12-08, 09:27 PM
There's a question. Do you need to do another theory to take accelerated access?
thefallenangel
15-12-08, 09:28 PM
There's a question. Do you need to do another theory to take accelerated access?
doubt it old one will be in date. lasts for 2 years.
Ditch the restrictor. If you plan on keeping the bike until your restriction runs out then I wouldn't bother with the test.
I didn't get this choice. I passed on my 17th birthday and my restriction ran out this June, so had no option of taking another test.
Mind you I think the restrictor was in my bike a week, so I would only hang on and wait if you plan on removing it.
That's my opinion anyway.
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