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shakie1973
27-12-08, 02:55 PM
Hi guys,
I have a datatool system 3 fitted, and i want to give the battery a charge, to make sure she is fully juiced for this crappy weather. Thing is i havent done the pin overide thingy on the system 3, and i dont have an optimate yet, so it would be a case of charging using a normal charger, but being a novice i wanted to ask, can you unclip the battery and charge it, or will this cause the alarm to go off. Also, what will happen when i reconect the battery, will this also set off the alarm, or will it be ok?
Im not sure if you have to set up the overide before uncliping the battery. If i dont have the pin overide set up will this cause me grief
cheers!! oh, and a merry Christmas to you all
To take the battery off the bike you will need to put the alarm in to Service Mode which is very annoying as the bike will beep every 10s or so. Just leave it on the bike and charge it up.
Get the pin override done.
ps. Note that the newer System 4 has a complete shutdown mode, but it leaves the bike imobilised.
Also with S4, make sure you have a Pin set as there is no way to get inside the unit to disconnect the internal battery unlike the S3 which allows you to reprogram remotes even if you have forgot the pin.
When I had a S3 I used to charge my battery with it still in the bike.
Best thing I ever did was not to have a Datatool fitted to my new bike. They're a complete PIA.
Best thing I ever did was not to have a Datatool fitted to my new bike. They're a complete PIA.
Not everyone is lucky to live in the middle of nowhere and insurance dont care if you have one or not. Ive had a couple S3 and never had issues with them.
shakie1973
27-12-08, 04:37 PM
If i dont do the pin overide is there any way of getting the bike going, if i had problems?
cheers
Not everyone is lucky to live in the middle of nowhere and insurance dont care if you have one or not. Ive had a couple S3 and never had issues with them.
I accept what you say. On rereading, I did sound rather dismissive. Sorry.
From memory shakie, no there isn't. The pin thingy isn't very difficult to do, just a bit fiddly. Be sure you don't forget the pin:D
If i dont do the pin overide is there any way of getting the bike going, if i had problems?
cheers
From what i remember, IF you dont have a pin setup and the remotes stop working then you have to open the alarm and do a full reset of the unit, i dont have the detaiks on how to do it though with me.
Gene genie
28-12-08, 09:48 AM
had the same problem. ended up buying a data tool battery charger. the alarm recognises tampering with the battery as a threat and sounds off. if you use a data tool charger the two recognise one another and will work together, awwwgh.
skidmarx
28-12-08, 10:25 AM
If you have to set the pin, keep to low numbers as you will get fed up preety quick of using it otherwise!
had the same problem. ended up buying a data tool battery charger. the alarm recognises tampering with the battery as a threat and sounds off. if you use a data tool charger the two recognise one another and will work together, awwwgh.
utter tosh, its as good at detecting battery tapering as i am at winning motogp and it dont care much about which charger you use, ive never had any issues using my halfords charger on my bikes while alarm was on bike
its just another selling scam
Dangerous Dave
28-12-08, 12:21 PM
Do the Datatool's not have there own battery built in like the Meta's? If so you can leave it for a while on that whilst you charge up the bikes battery.
I would recommend you get an Optimate (or similar), they also come with a lead so will not need to remove the front seat anymore.
http://www.mdsbattery.co.uk/images/products/Fullsize/OPTD-LEAD.jpg
Gene genie
28-12-08, 12:22 PM
utter tosh, its as good at detecting battery tapering as i am at winning motogp and it dont care much about which charger you use, ive never had any issues using my halfords charger on my bikes while alarm was on bike
its just another selling scam
i was only speaking about my experiences and the issues i had regarding data tool systems and merely passing on information that allowed me to get back on the road.
wether its utter tosh or not i was only trying to be helpful.
Gene genie
28-12-08, 12:24 PM
Do the Datatool's not have there own battery built in like the Meta's? If so you can leave it for a while on that whilst you charge up the bikes battery.
I would recommend you get an Optimate (or similar), they also come with a lead so will not need to remove the front seat anymore.
http://www.mdsbattery.co.uk/images/products/Fullsize/OPTD-LEAD.jpg
the data tool dave is manufactured by optimate with a few subtle differences but dont ask me what mate. the charger will decide wether the battery needs charging, maintaining or, believe it ior not, cleaning again dont ask me how dave.
Dangerous Dave
28-12-08, 12:31 PM
the data tool dave is manufactured by optimate with a few subtle differences
I know, all made by Accumate (who sell theres named Optimate) and all the difference is just stickers. All they do is test the battery condition, they then identify the condition of the battery and charge it to a given level, re-test, and define the battery's condition.
No comms made with an alarm.
Gene genie
28-12-08, 12:36 PM
No comms made with an alarm.
no theres not, but there are comments made with my data tool alarm literature and that sorted my problem.
Dangerous Dave
28-12-08, 12:39 PM
no theres not, but there are comments made with my data tool alarm literature and that sorted my problem.
Its the low current that the trickle chargers produce at the beginning that make them better for alarms, rather than the full whack from a basic charger as far as I am aware.
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