Ground Anchors & Chain

[sauluk]

I know the ground anchor is only going to be as good as the chain so I guess my question has two parts, what's the best ground anchor around that fits in with security bolts? and also can you recommend one of the best chains? I don't want to spend a fortune though.

[Alpinestarhero]

Chains - Almax. Yes, they are expensive. But £200 for a chain that prevents a £2000 bike being stolen? Its easily justifiable.

Be clever with how you use the chain with a ground anchor. Simply attaching the bike to the anchor via the front wheel alone dosn't make it secure...front wheels come of very easily!

Not sure on ground anchors. Sold secure?

[sauluk]

Where's good to wrap the chain on the SV then? And should ground anchors be used on the wall or ground, not sure I could get it in the wall but have a concrete floor in the bike store.

[arcdef]

if you can get a concrete in anchor, only need a 30cm deep hole and a few bags of post mix and theres no way the anchors coming up with out a pick axe at the least!!!

Click here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=150304138379)

thats what ive got and i will also be buying an almax chain long enough to go through the frame when they are back at the office!

[Alpinestarhero]

Where's good to wrap the chain on the SV then? And should ground anchors be used on the wall or ground, not sure I could get it in the wall but have a concrete floor in the bike store.

Wall is fine - again, its all about being a bit thoughtfull!

Chain is best through the rear wheel, and should be as tight as you can get it (any slack creates a point for a theif to have a go at breaking the chain).

Personally, I don't have the room to get my chain though the rear wheel, so I put it rund the front downpipe and through the front wheel - this way, the wheel is chained to the bike and the bike is chained to the ground.

[metalmonkey]

I have a doctor bike ground anchor which bolted into the floor using two expansion bolts. I'm going to put the chain through the swing arm, then chain both bikes togther.

Try getting them out the garage, I would have though I will be awake and quite angry by them!

[Alpinestarhero]

I would have though I will be awake and quite angry by them!

I'm hoping that trying to theive my bike away would gnerate alot of noise too!

I've come down once before in the moring to find my bike half-uncovered. I hope the almax put them off.

Probably the colour of the bike though

[Magnum]

Ive got a Master ground anchor from B&Q, cost me £15. I use an Oxford hardcore chain and lock which cost me £45 and was the top rated in Ride magazine.

[Smoggy]

I got this deal from Almax.

Clicky. (http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/product.asp?s=d7jfrt101927&strPageHistory=category&numSearchStartRecord=0&strParents=73&CAT_ID=73&P_ID=124&btnProduct=More+Details)

Very happy with it.
I got the 2m chain, seems just about right for use in the garage, we can lock two bikes up easy.
The anchor is a really solid bit of kit, needs a massive drill bit though I remember.

[arcdef]

Ive got a Master ground anchor from B&Q, cost me £15. I use an Oxford hardcore chain and lock which cost me £45 and was the top rated in Ride magazine.

click here (http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/index.asp?pg=7) to see how much being top rated means!!!

[Magnum]

click here (http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/index.asp?pg=7) to see how much being top rated means!!!

My hardcore lock is advertised as being bolt crop proof. Whats that black thing in the pic?

I suppose if you want to fork out that much money then fair enough. I may have considered it if i hadn't already bought the hardcore, which i'm still happy with anyway.

[Dappa D]

+1 almax

forget magaxine ratings IMO, dont mean anything, I wouldnt use anything on the market right now apart from almax

the clicky above pretty much sums this up, if u can find the video aswell of various chains being cropped..have a look, is very interesting

[Dappa D]

My hardcore lock is advertised as being bolt crop proof. Whats that black thing in the pic?

I suppose if you want to fork out that much money then fair enough. I may have considered it if i hadn't already bought the hardcore, which i'm still happy with anyway.

bolt crop proof? me thinks not, are you happy with it because your bike thus far has not been nicked?

im happy with mine because it bears the slight scars where some little fecker has clearly had a pop at it and gave up...this is why im happy with mine.

[arcdef]

the black thing is a portable hydraulic cropper which it says all the the chains were cropped in under 12 seconds with it

[maviczap]

the black thing is a portable hydraulic cropper which it says all the the chains were cropped in under 12 seconds with it

Sort of thing Firemen would use to chop up a car :(

[Dangerous Dave]

What ever chain or anchor you get they will not be 100% affective, anything can be broken and a determined thief given enough time will cut through a chain/lock/anchor.

Where's good to wrap the chain on the SV then?
Depends on the actual anchor you get, some are designed to dug down into concrete and other bolt onto a surface (floor or wall).

And should ground anchors be used on the wall or ground, not sure I could get it in the wall but have a concrete floor in the bike store.
Best to put the chain through the rear wheel and swingarm if possible, try not to let the chain be slack as it is at these points that thieves have more access to use stronger tools.

[ogden]

I use an RGV250 as an anchor for my GSXR, and a GSXR as an anchor for my RGV.

[sauluk]

This may sound dull but do I need a 0.7m or 1.5m chain to lock up via the back wheel/swingarm?

[ogden]

Depends what you're locking it to. 0.7m really is very small - think of the circumference of the wheel and tyre and see how much you have left.

[Dave20046]

As said almax chain is a must (if funds allow), but your padlocks also a weak point almax recommend closed shackle squires I think.

Where can you loop it round the swingarm that it won't slip off when the wheel's removed dd?

I'd floormount the anchor and then park the bike over the anchor so they can't access it easily and have little room to work.

[Dave20046]

Just had a look at the almax webby. If you're going to spend all that money on an unbreakable chain you may aswell get the best lock. Get the squire not the cisa. The deals look no good unless you were actually going to buy an anchor and that tailpack too (you'll need it with an almax chain). The subway anchor someone's already suggested looks good, especially if it's to be installed in a garage (would have to be or will fill with water) as it means there's no obstruction on the garage floor to drip over etc.

[arcdef]

the subway thing wont fill with water as its got a drain hole from the bottom and your not meant to place the bottom onto anything but gravel to allow the water to get out!, mine is outside and hasnt filled yet!

[Dave20046]

the subway thing wont fill with water as its got a drain hole from the bottom and your not meant to place the bottom onto anything but gravel to allow the water to get out!, mine is outside and hasnt filled yet!
Sorry I only glanced at it, quite right.

[ogden]

As said almax chain is a must (if funds allow), but your padlocks also a weak point almax recommend closed shackle squires I think.

My Almax chain came with a very, very solid CISA lock.

[muffles]

Depends what you're locking it to. 0.7m really is very small - think of the circumference of the wheel and tyre and see how much you have left.

The 0.7m chains are actually designed for bicycles not motorbikes, they are indeed too short to really do much - I think even to fit it round a wheel and ground anchor next to each other would be a push. They stopped doing the 1m so your only choice is the 1.5m tbh.

Just had a look at the almax webby. If you're going to spend all that money on an unbreakable chain you may aswell get the best lock. Get the squire not the cisa.

Have you had either of them? I've had both, and spoken to Maxine about these too - the CISA is for all intents and purposes as good as the Squire - it's got at least as much cutting required to get through the padlock. This is both mine and Maxine's view...

[tigersaw]

I'll recommend Almax till the cows come home. Not only is the product the best bar none, if you call them they'll talk to you all day if needs be to get the right setup for your requirements.