Traffic Cops NOW

[Shellywoozle]

BBC 1 focusing on bikers ! NOW 21.00hrs

[Mr Speirs]

You beat me too it. :)
Just watching it now.
Bet it portrays us in a bad light :)

[lily]

just turning DVD off better be good!

[Shellywoozle]

You beat me too it. :)
Just watching it now.
Bet it portrays us in a bad light :)

Sure the evidence they capturing tells the truth ! Being both a copper and a biker I am keeping quiet LOL

[lily]

Is this a repeat?

[Bluepete]

Recording it.

Pete

[Shellywoozle]

Is this a repeat?

Yeah I recognise this bit ! Sorry guys

[the_lone_wolf]

Sure the evidence they capturing tells the truth ! Being both a copper and a biker I am keeping quiet LOL

which would you call yourself if someone asked you to choose?

**prepares tar and feathers**






but seriously, considering the number of bellends they seem to find every week it's only a minority that appear on the show...






the rest of us can outrun them:cool:

[Lou M]

Shame, I'm watching BBC2, Three men in more than one boat.

Sailing in a storm force 8, ouch!

[Shellywoozle]

which would you call yourself if someone asked you to choose?

**prepares tar and feathers**



Biker at the mo .... I am restricted still due to my off so am not active and do not feel like a copper due to the work I am doing. I wear the uniform but thats about it.

Still wear my leathers and getting out there ..... is that the right answer LOL

[Grinch]

Well they are only going to show the morons as they are interesting viewing. Not all teenagers are chav's in Nova's tearing up the streets at 2 am robbing grannies (why are grannies out at 2am?) at knife point, but you get that feeling watching some programs.

Imagine following that bloke who said he never speeds and records other riders, how dull would that TV be.

I call it 'Daily Mail/Mirror/Sun' TV, its just scare tactics to get you hooked into the story.

[the_lone_wolf]

Still wear my leathers and getting out there ..... is that the right answer LOL

**gives shelly a suspicious look**




http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/misc/suspicious.jpg?t=1231190136

[Baph]

Once you're over the white line, you're driving without due care & attention.

Bullsh!t.

I was told to use the opposite side of the road on BikeSafe, by a traffic cop!

[ophic]

Did that copper just say an Africa Twin weighed 600kg?

[Grinch]

You mean they don't?

[Shellywoozle]

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/misc/suspicious.jpg?t=1231190136


http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1943/219/90/624342802/n624342802_1863033_2171.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=116208&id=624342802)

** WHO YOU LOOKING AT? **

[Baph]

Did that copper just say an Africa Twin weighed 600kg?

I think he weighed it on the police issue calibrated scales!! :rolleyes:

As for the idiot with the tinted windows (copper - not driver or husband)... WTF? Jumped up jobsworth.

[yorkie_chris]

Did that copper just say an Africa Twin weighed 600kg?

Yeap, there's some spackers about...

[Paul the 6th]

aye it's a repeat - think it was first broadcast in march '08... range rovers! ********s the lot of em

[Mr Speirs]

I thought that too. 600kg??? I think not.

Also the Horse owner clearly stated that the Motorcyclist was on his own side of the road. Then braked which sent him onto the otherside of the road. So he wasn't riding on the otherside of the road. But for him to then turn around and say he forgot is a bit weird.

[Baph]

But for him to then turn around and say he forgot is a bit weird.

Quite usual in trauma victims. Jason (wrote his pan euro off at NW3) couldn't remember what happened properly for at least a week.

I was gobsmacked when the witness stated the rider was on the correct side of the road & the cop contradicted the witness!

[Paul the 6th]

where's the local biker cafe in east yorks?

[yorkie_chris]

I thought these propaganda type programs were meant to show coppers in a good light and build respect for them?

What about buell guy? Why did he let car driver keep up? Why not just boot mirror off and sod off sharpish like normal?

[Paul the 6th]

and what does "Calib Required" mean?

[Baph]

and what does "Calib Required" mean?

Speedo on the bike needs calibrating for video.

[Paul the 6th]

would that affect the validity of the tape if it was to be used in a speeding case? And how often does the video equipment need re-calibrating to the speedo on the bike - everytime the bike goes back on duty or every couple of weeks?

[Mr Speirs]

Quite usual in trauma victims. Jason (wrote his pan euro off at NW3) couldn't remember what happened properly for at least a week.

I was gobsmacked when the witness stated the rider was on the correct side of the road & the cop contradicted the witness!

I suppose but there wasn't really a massive trauma he just slid from what I understand. But hey wasn't there didn't see it.

[Shellywoozle]

Poor Rotty ! Got a runny nose :) hehe

[Mr Speirs]

would that affect the validity of the tape if it was to be used in a speeding case? And how often does the video equipment need re-calibrating to the speedo on the bike - everytime the bike goes back on duty or every couple of weeks?

I believe the video couldn't be used to prosecute for a speeding conviction in a court of law. Don't know how often it needs to be calibrated.

But why would you send out a Hayabusa to catch speeding motorcyclists when the evidence couldn't be used???

[kwak zzr]

pooo missed it :(

[Mr Speirs]

I loved how the Vet Nurse just chucked the dog in the car whereas the Coppers spent ages trying to coax it in. haha

[Shellywoozle]

And how she shouted "sit" and the dog did nuffin LOL

[Paul the 6th]

never fear kwak, it'll be on bbc iplayer for 7 days afterwards...

[Mr Speirs]

Or they'll just repeat it in 8 months :)

[Baph]

And how she shouted "sit" and the dog did nuffin LOL

And how the cop sh!t himself when she shouted at the dog. :lol:

[Shellywoozle]

And how the cop sh!t himself when she shouted at the dog. :lol:

LOL that would be me :rolleyes:

[Mr Speirs]

Oh and something else...

WETWANG

:) :) :)

[Shellywoozle]

Oh and something else...

WETWANG

:) :) :)
pardon :)

[Mr Speirs]

that man has 1 massive ear. The first responder.

[Mr Speirs]

WETWANG was the village the SP-1 rider was speeding :)

WETWANG

[Paul the 6th]

"this man had been hit in the face by a flying pheasant, which, when you're on a bike, isn't really a good idea"

gotta love the choice of words lol... I wonder when it really is a good idea?

[Shellywoozle]

that man has 1 massive ear. The first responder.

That copper who spoke to the member of publi re pheasant was pulling some funny faces ..... bet he regrets them looking back ha ha

** mental note look out for low flying pheasants ** and duck ** not watch out for a duck but DUCK


Oooooh ouch looks like a painful experience ..... bad bird

[Paul the 6th]

i've driven through wetwang - the roads round there are a bit pap compared to places like the peak district or the catherine wheel run

[Mr Speirs]

Sooo the guy that got spammed in the face by a Pheasant remembered everything...
The fella who broke his ankle when he slid his bike over it doesn't remember a thing
:rolleyes:

[Ed]

Merde, I missed it too. Comment on the police officer contradicting the witness (from this thread) - not the first time I have seen police officers do this, nor the first time I've seen them give hearsay evidence as though it were entirely reliable. Never accept police evidence as faultless...

[hovis]

copper: you were doing 124mph
young-un in VW: is that bad?

:mrgreen::smt046

[yorkie_chris]

copper: you were doing 124mph
youngun in VW: is that bad?

:mrgreen:

Meanwhile, in the back DD says to TSM "I fackin told you them speedos over-read"...

[kwak zzr]

i hit a pheasant at 80 on the M54, not nice.

[Baph]

Now that it's finished... O.M.G.

I was told not to get so defensive more than once (even more than once with the copper talking about the tinted windows!)

Sure the evidence they capturing tells the truth!

I honestly can't pass comment on that, given that this is a U-rated forum.

I call it 'Daily Mail/Mirror/Sun' TV, its just scare tactics to get you hooked into the story.
+1. Only not the usual angle, if you have half a braincell.

range rovers! ********s the lot of em
I'd argue the copper that shares that sentiment is prejudiced! Therefore he's unable to fulfil his role properly, and he's on camera making prejudicial statements... "I'd already decided it was going to be dealt with by fixed penalty because it was a range rover!"

I thought these propaganda type programs were meant to show coppers in a good light and build respect for them?

You'd think, wouldn't you. :lol:


What about buell guy? Why did he let car driver keep up? Why not just boot mirror off and sod off sharpish like normal?

Or when the 'busa caught the car, why stop? I wouldn't of done, even if I hadn't been playing in traffic with the car driver.

[Shellywoozle]

i hit a pheasant at 80 on the M54, not nice.

We are talking hitting not in the sexual term in the back of ya car LOL ha ha

[Lozzo]

I hit my ex-wife at 110mph... unfortunately she was still sitting in the car beside me.

[Shellywoozle]

I hit my ex-wife at 110mph... unfortunately she was still sitting in the car beside me.

You crack me up ! :-D

[Baph]

Sooo the guy that got spammed in the face by a Pheasant remembered everything...
The fella who broke his ankle when he slid his bike over it doesn't remember a thing
:rolleyes:

How hard did the sliding Aftrica Twin rider hit his head when he fell? Did he have concussion etc (certainly not specified either way in the programme).

copper: you were doing 124mph
young-un in VW: is that bad?

:mrgreen::smt046

A point about that actually, if a copper asks you "what speed were you travelling at?" and you lie, that's perverting the course of justice. If however you say "The Human Rights Act gives me the right to not implicate myself in any charge, therefore no comment" - then the copper will look rather sheepish. :D

[Ed]

We are talking hitting not in the sexual term in the back of ya car LOL ha ha

I'm not the pheasant phucker, I'm the pheasant phucker's son...

[Gene genie]

hands up, who felt sorry for the pooch. dumped, get cold, beaten up at the vets, stabbed with needle, put in a cage for two weeks, get better, then put to sleep.
aint life a bitch.

[the_lone_wolf]

hands up, who felt sorry for the pooch. dumped, get cold, beaten up at the vets, stabbed with needle, put in a cage for two weeks, get better, then put to sleep.
aint life a bitch.

sounds like the condensed life of pete doherty to me...

[hovis]

hands up, who felt sorry for the pooch. dumped, get cold, beaten up at the vets, stabbed with needle, put in a cage for two weeks, get better, then put to sleep.
aint life a bitch.

after biting a copper and 2 vets

[Baph]

after biting a copper and 2 vets

Deserved treating like royalty for the former of those. :D :mrgreen: :rolleyes:

[Gene genie]

after biting a copper and 2 vets
clumbsy hovis. with their proffessional training you'd think vets and a police dog handler would know how to deal with a big dog.

[Gene genie]

sounds like the condensed life of pete doherty to me...
very good, very, very good.:-D

[skeetly]

Remember in the old days they would spot you with the hairdryer and then their mate down the road would flag you down? No high speed pursuit involved?
Whats all this talk about 'dangerous speeds' and 'bad visibilty' etc then chasing after them at the same speed (or faster)?
So instead of one fast vehicle being a danger to all you have two?

[hovis]

clumbsy hovis. with their proffessional training you'd think vets and a police dog handler would know how to deal with a big dog.

yeah....... poor doggy:(

i think its all lies, he looked so cute, he would not bite anyone

[Baph]

i think its all lies, he looked so cute, he would not bite anyone

Unless you poked his bad ear, put a cold stethoscope on his belly, shouted at him, and poked him with a needle; all after throwing him in the back of a vehicle which he quite obviously had some sort of phobia over.

Poor rotty. :(

[Gene genie]

sounds like he had a nasty accident with the cell door hovis.

[the_lone_wolf]

So instead of one fast vehicle being a danger to all you have two?

i think that's covered in the "Because i said so" section of the ladybird policeman's guide, which comes with a free ELC "My first Tazer"

[Biker Biggles]

Glad to hear those Hyabusas can still do 190MPH
Seems they believe their own propaganda.

I thought it was quite a good program as what it actually showed was that coppers are as dim and bigoted as the rest of us,not superbeings above the normal population.Thats a good thing as it gets us away from the old belief that if a copper says something in court then he is believed automatically.incompetance and stupidity are just as prevalent in the Bill as they are anywhere else.

[Gene genie]

Remember in the old days they would spot you with the hairdryer and then their mate down the road would flag you down? No high speed pursuit involved?
Whats all this talk about 'dangerous speeds' and 'bad visibilty' etc then chasing after them at the same speed (or faster)?
So instead of one fast vehicle being a danger to all you have two?
ah but that was in the days when drivers would pull over and say ''its a fair cop''.
now they dont stop when theres 4 area cars and a police helicopter.
what do you do?????

[skeetly]

ladybird policeman's guide

Tee Hee

[Biker Biggles]

Whats all this then?The ladyboy policemans guide?

Tee Hee

[punyXpress]

where's the local biker cafe in east yorks?
A166 Fridaythorpe, about 20 miles east of York.

[Paul the 6th]

A166 Fridaythorpe, about 20 miles east of York.

ah, driven through fridaythorpe a few times come to think of it... Sounds like such a nice place to live doesnt it.

[ogden]

A point about that actually, if a copper asks you "what speed were you travelling at?" and you lie, that's perverting the course of justice. If however you say "The Human Rights Act gives me the right to not implicate myself in any charge, therefore no comment" - then...

...you'll stand a chance of failing the attitude test.

"Anything which you do not mention now which you later rely on in court may harm your defence" (or something like that, it's been a while).

Last time I was sat in the back of a car like that lad, I was asked the same question. I did exactly what that kid did and gave answers that were a bit on the low side until the copper stopped taking the ****. 3 points and 60 quid for 110. Bargain.

[Paul the 6th]

the one thing which winds me up about "police cops" or "traffic wars" is that it's always the absolute nobs who get away with murder, then the odd people who are just a mph or two over the acpo limit get the full points, fine, driving improvement course, a spell in rehab and a space on the sex offenders reg (maybe I'm going over the top with this bit, but some people do actually have to attend a driving improvement course).

There was a guy in a big posh merc driving like a ****, undertaking, tailgating, flashing his lights, nearly clipped about 2-3 people over the course of a 5-10 minute video from an unmarked car... He was driving ridiculously dangerously and bullying everyone in his way, then speeding upto 120mph...

the traffic cop pulled & showed him the video, then told him he was going to lose his licence etc etc then at the last minute said, "I can tell your a professional working family man so I'll let you off this once" and sent him on his way.

I was stopped once or twice as a young'n - polite as can be, honest, no d!cking around and not really doing anything wrong (not speeding or driving like a div but fair play, they should be checking for insurance & full licences if you look a bit younger) - put me in the back of the police car, asked me where I'd been, what I was doing, why I was doing it, kept me for about 25 mins and then sent me on my way with a producer.

[ogden]

the one thing which winds me up about "police cops" or "traffic wars" is that it's always the absolute nobs who get away with murder, then the odd people who are just a mph or two over the acpo limit get the full points, fine, driving improvement course, a spell in rehab and a space on the sex offenders reg (maybe I'm going over the top with this bit, but some people do actually have to attend a driving improvement course).

I was stopped once or twice as a young'n - polite as can be, honest, no d!cking around and not really doing anything wrong (not speeding or driving like a div but fair play, they should be checking for insurance & full licences if you look a bit younger) - put me in the back of the police car, asked me where I'd been, what I was doing, why I was doing it, kept me for about 25 mins and then sent me on my way with a producer.

I was stopped several times as a young'un, always for dicking about as teenagers do, and I was let off with nothing but a mild slap on the wrist every time.

I was stopped about 8 years ago after doing the thick end of 140 away from (what turned out to be) an unmarked car. Was sent away with a flea in my ear and promises of a summons, but nothing ever came.

Maybe the lesson is that you need to take the **** more and then you might feel less aggrieved when you're tugged anyway.

[timwilky]

I did not watch it, but remember it from last time.

From some of the points above. There was a time when in order to fine you you had to go before the magistrate, that took time, effort and evidence. therefore plod would use his discretion and send you on your way having learned your lesson.

Now with fixed penalties for everything, plod is lazy. Fixed penalty, he gets the prizes you get the points, his word against yours unless you are willing to risk it before the magistrate the majority of whom are still convinced plod would not lie and pervert the course just to get one over on somebody he has taken a dislike to, just to prove a point

It is not just motoring offences, it is the whole myriad of cautions people accept just to get out of the place not realising there is downstream implications despite what plod may say. Street cautions with 80 quid penalties when again people accept them not wanting to waste time in the cells, argue the case before a magistrate. They think they are saving time/money. They are letting plod get away with poor evidence/practice. yes if you are guilty and nicked they can be a quick/cheap way out. But they are over used when there is an element of doubt and proper policing required.

[ogden]

yes if you are guilty and nicked they can be a quick/cheap way out. But they are over used when there is an element of doubt and proper policing required.

I've never been tugged when I wasn't guilty of something. Any time I've been pulled over, I've had a list going through my mind of all the things I've done that they might be nicking me for. On balance, over the years, I'm well up on the deal.

[Berlin]

Interesting that the policeman instantly took the word (and side) of the horse rider and not the biker.

*anything* could have happened on that bend but he instantly presumed it was bike rider fault. The horse could have been in the middle of the road. It could have been square on etc.

I can't remember the last time I saw horse riders riding in single file. They always ride side by side so they can chat. My girlfriend rides twice a day so I'm "in the scene". None of the horse riders round here ever ride single file. And none of them ever clean up their horse s*** either!

There were two bikes and two horse riders according the the program. Was the other bike in front? If he was, he would have paniced the horses. They were thoroughbred warmdbloods. Or in other words, as mad and frootloopy as a horse can be. And very very skittish. No one, on the back of a thoroughbred warmdblood, is ever in full control of it. They'll spook at a carrierbag in the hedge. Or a crow flying over. They're mad.

So a big, scary twin with it's lights on coming round a corner is going to be a bit of a "spooky thing" to a thoroughbred warmdblood. Especially if another bike has just gone by.

Good to see our Scottish policeman friend was openminded and objective.

And she openly claimed that her horse was going to be a handful when she took it back out onto the roads again if a motorbike was present. Probably a good idea NOT to take it back onto the roads then Eh? But was anything said? Nope, Free and clear to take your mad as a baloon, paranoid animal back out there on a road that's known for biking! Great idea!


Oh, and the guy who claimed to be a people person? Uhu!

I did like the guy on the 'Busa though. Id be happy if he was the average Joe policeman. Level head and very objective.


C

[ogden]

I did like the guy on the 'Busa though. Id be happy if he was the average Joe policeman. Level head and very objective.

Every traffic cop I've ever had to deal with has been like that, even when I've been on completely the wrong side off them. Thoroughly professional. I've never come across one even vaguely like the ****s you see on Traffic Cops. Maybe it's a northern thing?

[Bluepete]

Maybe it's a northern thing?

Whatchootalkin' about Willis? ;) ;)

Where does that put me? Southener, well Herefordshire, now working in Manchester?

FWIW, I thought the Scottish cop was a bit, well, keen? Seen the programme before, didn't enjoy it then, didn't bother watching it second time around.

Pete :D

[ogden]

Where does that put me? Southener, well Herefordshire, now working in Manchester?

Hereford? Southern? You're a brummy in denial. In Manchester.

Might as well top yourself now.

[Gazza77]

I can't remember the last time I saw horse riders riding in single file. They always ride side by side so they can chat. My girlfriend rides twice a day so I'm "in the scene". None of the horse riders round here ever ride single file. And none of them ever clean up their horse s*** either!

My other half also rides and we had this debate in the programme. Advise in the horse world, and from police, is to ride side by side (still ensuring you are on the correct side of the road) in order to reduce the chance of people speeding past as it narrows the space for them to get by. On the same basis, if out on their own, advice is to ride towards the white line never in at the kerb.

It might be a pain in the ****, but I see the logic and have to agree with it.

[Baph]

My other half also rides and we had this debate in the programme. Advise in the horse world, and from police, is to ride side by side (still ensuring you are on the correct side of the road) in order to reduce the chance of people speeding past as it narrows the space for them to get by. On the same basis, if out on their own, advice is to ride towards the white line never in at the kerb.

It might be a pain in the ****, but I see the logic and have to agree with it.

Yea, I see the point from a saftey aspect. However, that "policy" also ensures horse crap in the middle of the road, or near the white line. :(

[Shellywoozle]

Deserved treating like royalty for the former of those. :D :mrgreen: :rolleyes:

I know what you meant .... watch it ! :smt019

[Baph]

I know what you meant .... watch it ! :smt019

Ha, thought you were a biker first? :p

[Woz]

Bullsh!t.

I was told to use the opposite side of the road on BikeSafe, by a traffic cop!


Straight from the horses mouth (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yqyv7XR1kU)

Watch from 4:40



Nb. Pretty sure this video has been posted here before.

[Shellywoozle]

Ha, thought you were a biker first? :p

Copper close 2nd.

Be one again in February !! :cheers: fingers crossed

[Dave20046]

Saw this the other day didn't think they were as big a ******s as they could have been. Mr SP1 was taking the **** a tad, the guy that 'lost his memory' was a bit pathetic. I wish PC shirley (dennis) had of done more to that pratt in the cage trying to kill the bikers. I had a lass in a 206cc try that with me on my second day on the sv and first time on the motorway (biking).

[Red Herring]

I'd like to have listened to the line of questioning if the lad in the VW had elected to go to court.
Q. Tell me officer did you take the registration number of the speeding car is it went past you at 124mph in the outside lane?
R. Eh, no your worships.
Q. Tell me officer, did you maintain a constant view of this vehicle as it drove away from you at 124mph whilst you reversed you police car on the observation post and then moved out into the carriageway.
R. Eh, no your worships.
Q. Tell me officer, just how long did it take you to go from a standing start at the side of the road to catch up with this car that was travelling at 124mph.
R. Eh, quite a few miles your worships.
Q. Tell me officer, is it right that when you caught up with my client he was driving his silver VW Lupo at 70mph in lane one.
R. Eh, yes that's right.
Q. So tell me officer, how do you intend to show this court that the car you recorded at 124mph was the same car my client was driving.
R. Eh, I can't your worships......
:takeabow:

[shifter]

Not to mension when the plod pulled him over on the motorway he parked behind him but didn't have his blue lights going.
If that was me I'd argue that the plod placed my life in danger forcing me to stand on the hard shoulder without giving proper warning to road users that we where there.

[Red Herring]

Wouldn't have got you off though, two wrongs don't make a right and all that....
HSE might have something to say about his short sleeved reflective though....

[arcdef]

I'd like to have listened to the line of questioning if the lad in the VW had elected to go to court.
Q. Tell me officer did you take the registration number of the speeding car is it went past you at 124mph in the outside lane?
R. Eh, no your worships.
Q. Tell me officer, did you maintain a constant view of this vehicle as it drove away from you at 124mph whilst you reversed you police car on the observation post and then moved out into the carriageway.
R. Eh, no your worships.
Q. Tell me officer, just how long did it take you to go from a standing start at the side of the road to catch up with this car that was travelling at 124mph.
R. Eh, quite a few miles your worships.
Q. Tell me officer, is it right that when you caught up with my client he was driving his silver VW Lupo at 70mph in lane one.
R. Eh, yes that's right.
Q. So tell me officer, how do you intend to show this court that the car you recorded at 124mph was the same car my client was driving.
R. Eh, I can't your worships......
:takeabow:

nevermind the guy admitting it and the film evidence of the car being recorded and then being stopped, he got a ban anyway which is just deserts really as 124mph in that thing is not a good idea!! imagine how sketchy it would feel!

[Red Herring]

There are a few rules about questioning suspects as well.....like cautioning them and giving them their rights before you try and get them to incriminate themselves.

As for the film, could you identify the car from the shot of it flashing past?

[punyXpress]

Every traffic cop I've ever had to deal with has been like that, even when I've been on completely the wrong side off them. Thoroughly professional. I've never come across one even vaguely like the ****s you see on Traffic Cops. Maybe it's a northern thing?
More likely to be playing up to the cameras, which is par for te course with all the so-called ' reality ' shows!