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I am just about to buy my first set of leathers and have seen some RST Voltage ones for £200 plus a bit of postage. These come as either two piece or one piece suits.
Mainly I only commute on the bike, but will hopefully be using the bike for a few more leisurely rides this year. My textiles are fine and have been used everyday since I have had them.
It is unlikely I'll be doing any trackdays, but you never know.......
So my questions are as follows:
1. Which would be best 2 piece or one piece?
2. Does anyone have any opinions of these RST ones?
3. Anything else I need to consider?
Cheers,
Kev
yorkie_chris
08-01-09, 04:55 PM
2 piece unless you are racing.
No idea to 2 and 3, but I would trust lozzos advice on the matter. Sure he'll be along at some point...
YC, why two piece? I guess easier for removing and stuff?
yorkie_chris
08-01-09, 05:01 PM
Yeap. I don't see how the added protection of 1 piece would do much good on the road, and they are inconvenient. And you look a tit.
Yeap. I don't see how the added protection of 1 piece would do much good on the road, and they are inconvenient. And you look a tit.
+1
and in the summer you can just take the jacket off, when stopped with a 2 piece
philbut
08-01-09, 05:18 PM
I bought a set of RST voltage leathers (2 piece) at the NEC in December. £200 for the set. they fit me very well and seem well made, but obviously I can't comment on crash protection as I aint crashed in them yet (touch wood). The jacket is warm, but the trousers are perforated around the upper thigh so not warm enough for winter riding. I imagine they'd be nice in summer though.
I have got these:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Teknic-Lightning-2-Piece-Race-Suit-Black-Gun-40_W0QQitemZ380094027768QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Moto rcycle_Clothing?hash=item380094027768&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
They haven't been tested yet but they are certainly comfy and feel well made.
kwak zzr
08-01-09, 06:17 PM
I bought a set of RST voltage leathers (2 piece) at the NEC in December. £200 for the set. they fit me very well and seem well made, but obviously I can't comment on crash protection as I aint crashed in them yet (touch wood). The jacket is warm, but the trousers are perforated around the upper thigh so not warm enough for winter riding. I imagine they'd be nice in summer though.
i wear RST leathers and ive crashed in them TWICE! nice fit, comfy and well made :) ooooo not forgeting good prices too.
Shellywoozle
08-01-09, 06:19 PM
i wear RST leathers and ive crashed in them TWICE! nice fit, comfy and well made :) ooooo not forgeting good prices too.
RST yep nice leathers. comfy and I don't know about crashing in them. DK's got some great deal on them £260 for the set, cheap as chips. Well my chippy is a bit cheaper by about £250 if you want fish with the chips LOL
Dave20046
08-01-09, 07:13 PM
Get 2 piece. Not sure on RST, I fell for alpine stars thinking they were good quality, been informed otherwise.
Dave20046
08-01-09, 07:14 PM
Yeap. I don't see how the added protection of 1 piece would do much good on the road, and they are inconvenient. And you look a tit.
+1, to be honest I feel a tit in my 2piece leathers but I'll just zip up my mask and shutup.
yorkie_chris
08-01-09, 07:15 PM
I just zip up my mask and shutup.
In a pulp fiction style?
Dave20046
08-01-09, 07:18 PM
Indeed. Everyone at work laughs at my leathers because the little square hatch on my ar$e keeps popping open. Last time I buy leathers from 'pulse and cocktails'.:batman:
Balky001
08-01-09, 07:30 PM
Get 2 piece. Not sure on RST, I fell for alpine stars thinking they were good quality, been informed otherwise.
Dave, I think Alpinestars are sometimes seen as a bit more expensive than some makes but not really worth it (even more so for Dainese etc) and the cheaper end of Alpinestars might be less well made but I don't agree. I've got SX1, about £800 new a few years ago, crashed twice, got knee repaired at Hideout-Leathers who said they were pretty good for off the peg(reluctantly as they obviously only rate their own). I also like the Dainese's fit and finish. You can't beet tailor made ones though (BKS, Hideout etc)
As for RST, I've heard mixed opinions. I think they make a nice looking suit. FG1's link look like decent leathers as long as originals.
I had 2-piece, never really liked them, much prefer 1 piece. I don't spend much time walking around when I'm out on my bike or going to meets, if I did I'd consider 2 piece but the zips get on my nerves and my 2 piece didn't shape as well to my body. I prefer the looks of 1 piece, 2 piece look like you have a belt on all the time
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/ProductImages/300/2009_Fieldsheer_Radar_Two-Piece_Leather_Suit.jpg
mike_avfc
08-01-09, 08:09 PM
hi kev,
i got the Hein Gericke pro-sports 2 piece, absolutely brill. they were doing it cheap just b4 xmas as it was being phased out, i was in the northampton branch and they had the jackets and trousers for about 50 quid each. Theyre all fully armoured. worth looking if you have one local.
I have found the RST Voltage 1 piece for £195.74 (free delivery) and 2 piece for exactly the same at www.cissburyleathers.co.uk.........
Mike any pictures?
mike_avfc
08-01-09, 08:19 PM
post some later mate -
Personally I wouldn't touch RST, Alpinestars or Dainese. If you're looking for affordable good quality in the 200 to 300 quid bracket then have a look at Teknic, Hein Gericke and, believe it or not, Akito. Above all, avoid anything made by Frank Thomas, Bikezone, Lewis Leathers and BKS (now owned by Frank Thomas and making some awful cheap crap with BKS badging) their returns department is the busiest team in the bike clothing business. FT quality is absolutely dire and to be avioded at all costs.
Gericke isn't as well made as it once was but is still good. the Teknic stuff I've seen has been surprisingly good for the money. Akito have had a major turn around in quality - once upon a time it was awful cheap rubbish, but they have had a long hard look at what they do and made significant changes to their manufacturing and quality control. The upside is that prices are still on the affordable side.
If you search through the forum you'll see plenty of examples of why I wouldn't touch Dainese or A/stars stuff. I've looked at RST and to be honest I am not at all impressed. Leather quality is poor and the stitching is not sufficiently strong enough to withstand a heavy impact.
You have to remember that there is a safety standard applicable to motorcycle clothing. If the garment you are looking at does not bear the CE label then it is not a safety item and can be of any shoddy quality - treat these types of garment as fashion clothing, nothing more, nothing less. You'll see big bright 'CE Approved', labels on just about every piece of bike clothing, but this usually only applies to the armour inside, the garment the armour is in could possibly fall apart in a 5mph crash. Unless you're paying upwards of £1000 for a leather suit, it will not be CE approved as safety clothing.
This advice is worth exactly what you're paying for it, but bear in mind motorcycle clothing/helmet sales, design and development was my bread and butter for a fair few years.
Balky001
08-01-09, 09:04 PM
This advice is worth exactly what you're paying for it, but bear in mind motorcycle clothing/helmet sales, design and development was my bread and butter for a fair few years.
Lozzo (or anyone else that may have had Wolf), as it's free ;) what's you opinion on Wolf m2m 1 piece? The local Harpers do some nice looking Wolf leathers and they seem pretty good but I've not heard of anyone whose has actually owned a set or what the quality of the stitching or leather is like.
mike_avfc
08-01-09, 09:08 PM
Mike any pictures?
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk363/mike_avfc/formulaiiired-1.jpg
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk363/mike_avfc/HGFORMULAIIIPANTSSIL2.jpg
These are just stock photos but i've been happy with them. I wear a knox back protector under the jacket having taken the HG one out.
Can't comment on RST as my leathers are Spyke. I wear a back protector and it's irritating that the 'tail' of the back protector fouls the zip that zips the 2 piece together, meaning that I can't easily do it up. So if you have a back protector, take it with you when you try on the kit.
yorkie_chris
09-01-09, 01:31 AM
I've got some teknic pants and am impressed with their quality. The akito gloves I had seemed ok (bought in late 90's?), didn't stop my wrist getting smashed to bits though.
Belstaff gear, jacket is excellent but the pants seem to have the weakest stitching in the hardest hit areas.
Personally I wouldn't touch RST, Alpinestars or Dainese. If you're looking for affordable good quality in the 200 to 300 quid bracket then have a look at Teknic, Hein Gericke and, believe it or not, Akito. Above all, avoid anything made by Frank Thomas, Bikezone, Lewis Leathers and BKS (now owned by Frank Thomas and making some awful cheap crap with BKS badging) their returns department is the busiest team in the bike clothing business. FT quality is absolutely dire and to be avioded at all costs.
Gericke isn't as well made as it once was but is still good. the Teknic stuff I've seen has been surprisingly good for the money. Akito have had a major turn around in quality - once upon a time it was awful cheap rubbish, but they have had a long hard look at what they do and made significant changes to their manufacturing and quality control. The upside is that prices are still on the affordable side.
If you search through the forum you'll see plenty of examples of why I wouldn't touch Dainese or A/stars stuff. I've looked at RST and to be honest I am not at all impressed. Leather quality is poor and the stitching is not sufficiently strong enough to withstand a heavy impact.
You have to remember that there is a safety standard applicable to motorcycle clothing. If the garment you are looking at does not bear the CE label then it is not a safety item and can be of any shoddy quality - treat these types of garment as fashion clothing, nothing more, nothing less. You'll see big bright 'CE Approved', labels on just about every piece of bike clothing, but this usually only applies to the armour inside, the garment the armour is in could possibly fall apart in a 5mph crash. Unless you're paying upwards of £1000 for a leather suit, it will not be CE approved as safety clothing.
This advice is worth exactly what you're paying for it, but bear in mind motorcycle clothing/helmet sales, design and development was my bread and butter for a fair few years.
May have a look around at these recommendations. Thanks all.
MattCollins
09-01-09, 10:07 AM
A bit late I know, but £200 would barely even buy decent leather (roo) let alone the stitching.
I stopped wearing leather a few years ago, but I was happy enough to wear one-piece under a textile jacket so that I didn't look too silly on the street. The over-riding factor should be safety anyway.
Cheers
chakraist
09-01-09, 10:16 AM
I have an Arlen Ness twosie and it's fantastic, I feel great in it and it's crashed pretty well (little tear in the stretch panel above the knee).
Lozzo (or anyone else that may have had Wolf), as it's free ;) what's you opinion on Wolf m2m 1 piece? The local Harpers do some nice looking Wolf leathers and they seem pretty good but I've not heard of anyone whose has actually owned a set or what the quality of the stitching or leather is like.
Top quality kit fom what I've seen. I have a UK made Wolf jacket I bought in 1980 - it's been crashed in so many times I've forgotten. It's still in one piece and looks great.
Their newer stuff looks equally as well made.
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk363/mike_avfc/formulaiiired-1.jpg
Since when have Gericke had a tie-up with Barbie dolls?
Nice pink colour :D
Ceri JC
09-01-09, 11:46 AM
Since when have Gericke had a tie-up with Barbie dolls?
Nice pink colour :D
Hovis' next jacket, perhaps? ;)
muffles
09-01-09, 12:10 PM
What issues have people had with Alpinestars leathers? Mine are Alpinestars - never crashed but still all there after 3 years at least, lol. I haven't compared the stitching to other leathers though, I'll try and remember when I next use them :)
custard
09-01-09, 12:54 PM
one to avoid. i crashed in IXS leathers and they didnt fair well. burst the shoulder and tore the **** out of them
What issues have people had with Alpinestars leathers? Mine are Alpinestars - never crashed but still all there after 3 years at least, lol. I haven't compared the stitching to other leathers though, I'll try and remember when I next use them :)
I've seen abrasion and seam burst test results from Cambridge University's CE Approval bods, they didnt do very well at all. The tests were done on the top of the range race suit that was well over a grand and the leather holed faster than a 300 quid pair of Gericke ones. I've also seen A/stars and Dainese suits literally unravel themselves off crashers at circuits all over the UK. They really are not worth the money, unless you buy them for the style and 'designer' name badges
We were speaking to some trackday instructors last year about this, one of them said he sees alot of people who've fallen off and of all the leathers they are wearing Dainese were worst with A/stars a close second. He also said that the ones wearing Dainese were most likely to go back and buy another pair of Daineses. He said he can't believe how gullible, stupid and taken in by the marketing hype some people are. His own pair of MJK leathers are scuffed to hell after a number of high speed crashes, but they've never split a seam and have only holed lightly in one place
yorkie_chris
09-01-09, 01:09 PM
Ahhh but rossi wears them, so if I get the same colour as he has I will be invincible!
muffles
09-01-09, 01:15 PM
I've seen abrasion and seam burst test results from Cambridge University's CE Approval bods, they didnt do very well at all. The tests were done on the top of the range race suit that was well over a grand and the leather holed faster than a 300 quid pair of Gericke ones. I've also seen A/stars and Dainese suits literally unravel themselves off crashers at circuits all over the UK. They really are not worth the money, unless you buy them for the style and 'designer' name badges
We were speaking to some trackday instructors last year about this, one of them said he sees alot of people who've fallen off and of all the leathers they are wearing Dainese were worst with A/stars a close second. He also said that the ones wearing Dainese were most likely to go back and buy another pair of Daineses. He said he can't believe how gullible, stupid and taken in by the marketing hype some people are. His own pair of MJK leathers are scuffed to hell after a number of high speed crashes, but they've never split a seam and have only holed lightly in one place
Cheers, I guess most of that I can't see on the suit without crashing unfortunately! I ended up with these as I was after a reputable brand rather than these specifically, they cost £400 from the Ally Pally show back in 2006. I guess the leather is presumably of a poor quality rather than too thin (that would be too obvious) hence the holing? I'll definitely try and compare (stitching, leather if possible) to some other makes next time I can, as I never thought it would be of bad quality (hence the reason I bought them - to try and ensure I got a decent suit).
From what I've seen it's pretty good in terms of amount & placing of armour, but it won't help if the suit is torn to shreds and the armour moves!
Dave20046
09-01-09, 01:20 PM
I have some a*s, crashed in them once and they are alright but I think if I have to buy off the hook leathers again I'll go for arlen ness. They seem well praised. Apparently you can crash in made to fit ones tens of times.
Ahhh but rossi wears them, so if I get the same colour as he has I will be invincible!
Bad man, you and I know full well that what il Dottore wears is not what you or I could buy off the shelf... if we were so gullible.
yorkie_chris
09-01-09, 01:41 PM
Heh, can't help myself :-P
Anyway back to OP, here would be my recommendation (if you want some matching 2-piece that don't make you look like a wannabe race tart)
http://www.jofama.se/motorcycle_wear/product_details.php?lang=2&id=73&cid=20
speedplay
09-01-09, 01:44 PM
I use a berik moto gp 1 piece suit (got it really cheap).
Set on ebay (not mine)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Berik-Moto-Gp-One-Piece-Motorbike-Race-Leathers-UK-44_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ370121407430
Its comfy and protects really well (had one serious crash and not even a mark on them).
They can be a pain to get into and I wouldnt want to walk very far in them but then they are made for riding in.
I bought an rst 2 piece for the mrs and it does seem to be really well made and the fit on her is great.
I guess the best thing to do really is try on loads of stuff and see what you like for yourself.
Heh, can't help myself :-P
Anyway back to OP, here would be my recommendation (if you want some matching 2-piece that don't make you look like a wannabe race tart)
http://www.jofama.se/motorcycle_wear/product_details.php?lang=2&id=73&cid=20
Can't see prices for them, but they look OK to me, I just want something plain black really.
yorkie_chris
09-01-09, 02:03 PM
You won't see prices there... go to the "dealers" section of that site and see if there's any online shops.
SoulKiss
09-01-09, 02:04 PM
Heh, can't help myself :-P
Anyway back to OP, here would be my recommendation (if you want some matching 2-piece that don't make you look like a wannabe race tart)
http://www.jofama.se/motorcycle_wear/product_details.php?lang=2&id=73&cid=20
I'd be a bit worried about those leathers from the spec
Farelle
Two-piece leathers in cow’s nappa. Extra reinforcements in exposed areas.
HI-ART®
Adjustable CE approved protectors
CE approved Back Converter can be fitted
Leather stretch at elbows, seat and above knees
Textile stretch inside of sleeves and back of knees
Knee pads
Triple Stitch
Men’s 48-60
Ladies’ 36-42
508070 00 black
Dont know if I want my Back Converted :P
You won't see prices there... go to the "dealers" section of that site and see if there's any online shops.
GLF Accessories stock Jofama gear
01525 717009
http://www.glfaccessories.com/
yorkie_chris
09-01-09, 03:10 PM
Fackinell... I got a bargain on my jacket :-D
Balky001
09-01-09, 07:02 PM
So in the interest of those looking to purchase leathers, from personal experienc of reviews read, which leathers, say up to £1k would people buy in order of preference. HideOUt, Arlen Ness, Scott, MJK, a* GP suit, Dainese (doubt it after all the slating its got but it a popular make), Wolf m2m, Berik or Technics - or other?
Top 3
HideOut
Wolf
MJK
My top 3
MJK (If you're prepared to go to Holland to get them - I would be)
Scott
Hideout
northwind
09-01-09, 11:51 PM
I loooooooove my Furygan jacket, it's lovely to look at and feel, and it's proved itself extremely tough- any decent leathers would have survived the crashes I've done in it, but it's not just survived, it's barely even marked. The stitching's all recessed to protect it in slides (and there's fully protected stitching under the leather on all major seams).
(part of my decision to go with Furygan, apart from the looks which did play a part, is the fact that all the sidecar boys at Knockhill wear furygan. And NOBODY crashes as much as the sidecar guys :mrgreen: Sometimes they're lucky to get out of the pits before a bit falls off their ridiculous contraptions and tries to sever their limbs)
Wolf, I've been very impressed with. If I was buying an off the peg suit tomorrow it'd probably be Wolf, I don't like Furygan's trousers much. They're well made (as far as I can tell) and well priced, but also they look good.
Balky001
10-01-09, 08:49 AM
Wolf, I've been very impressed with. If I was buying an off the peg suit tomorrow it'd probably be Wolf, I don't like Furygan's trousers much.
Yes, Furygan looks like good valued and quality gear. I''m also considering Wolf as I live about 3 minutes from where they make them in Leigh on Sea in Essex, but Furygan is definiately another make to consider
Balky001
10-01-09, 02:57 PM
Going back to the original post, I've just been in Harpers and they reckon they can do a custom made suit with built in knox protection (the new stuff) although as you are getting it made it can all be altered or additional protection added, for a between £500-£600. A bit more than the original spending allowance by they are made to measure and decent leather
muffles
10-01-09, 04:49 PM
Going back to the original post, I've just been in Harpers and they reckon they can do a custom made suit with built in knox protection (the new stuff) although as you are getting it made it can all be altered or additional protection added, for a between £500-£600. A bit more than the original spending allowance by they are made to measure and decent leather
An absolute steal if prices I am being given on PH are correct (£1300 for the base suit from most reputable ones, £850 for the base suit from a cheapo)! Though it might make me a little wary...
Balky001
10-01-09, 04:52 PM
An absolute steal if prices I am being given on PH are correct (£1300 for the base suit from most reputable ones, £850 for the base suit from a cheapo)! Though it might make me a little wary...
I forgot to mention Harpers make the Wolf suits so pretty good stuff, I was expecting £850 - £1000
muffles
10-01-09, 05:04 PM
I forgot to mention Harpers make the Wolf suits so pretty good stuff, I was expecting £850 - £1000
In that case...got any contact details to post? :mrgreen:
Balky001
10-01-09, 05:08 PM
In that case...got any contact details to post? :mrgreen:
The best bloke to speak to is someone called Phil at their Leigh branch, 01702 482016/7. He wasn't in today but is in the week.
crewmanchris
10-01-09, 06:45 PM
get some leathers on ebay. I got a olf jacket for £50 and trousers for 20! Fit well too but you have to be careful with sizes - you could always sell them on if they dont fit well. for example -
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=150319311127
Yes, Furygan looks like good valued and quality gear. I''m also considering Wolf as I live about 3 minutes from where they make them in Leigh on Sea in Essex, but Furygan is definiately another make to consider
The Wolfs you buy in the shops off the peg are not the same Wolf as the made to measure stuff that is made in Leigh on Sea. Off the peg stuff is made by a company called Madif in Hong Kong. This is actually a good thing as Madif also make all Arlen Ness and Berik leathers. They have their own factory so quality control is really high and they are well worth the money.
Balky001
11-01-09, 02:21 PM
The Wolfs you buy in the shops off the peg are not the same Wolf as the made to measure stuff that is made in Leigh on Sea. Off the peg stuff is made by a company called Madif in Hong Kong. This is actually a good thing as Madif also make all Arlen Ness and Berik leathers. They have their own factory so quality control is really high and they are well worth the money.
Lozzo, are you saying the off the peg is better made than the made 2 measure?
phil24_7
11-01-09, 03:04 PM
No, he's just saying that as far as off-the-peg stuff goes. It's good that it comes from Madif as they offer good quality products at good prices.
phil24_7
11-01-09, 03:04 PM
I think!!
I think!!
You're correct. Wolf's made to measure is good, their off the peg stuff is too
phil24_7
11-01-09, 03:30 PM
Lozzo - How do you rate Nankai stuff? I got a set of hand-me-downs that no longer fit my brother, and I am planning on using them for my trackday set, as long as they are good quality. They are about 6 years old I think?!?! I think he paid 6-800 quid for them from the NEC!
northwind
11-01-09, 03:35 PM
Yes, Furygan looks like good valued and quality gear.
Well, good value... Probably not, it's expensive stuff. But it does last.
Balky001
11-01-09, 04:44 PM
Well, good value... Probably not, it's expensive stuff. But it does last.
Something can cost a lot and be good value for money at the same time as something can be cheap but a waste of money. Would you buy Furygan again?
Lozzo - How do you rate Nankai stuff? I got a set of hand-me-downs that no longer fit my brother, and I am planning on using them for my trackday set, as long as they are good quality. They are about 6 years old I think?!?! I think he paid 6-800 quid for them from the NEC!
Good gear, expensive and ultimately worth the money. Not popular over here because they weren't marketed properly at all really.
phil24_7
11-01-09, 05:29 PM
That's really good to know. My bro did say when he bought them that they were good and a real bargain (think the original price was over a grand). Just need a decent and cheap helmet now!
northwind
11-01-09, 05:55 PM
Something can cost a lot and be good value for money at the same time as something can be cheap but a waste of money. Would you buy Furygan again?
Yeeessss... Probably. Partly because I like the style, the jacket's nice enough that I've often taken the armour out and worn it around town. I don't like race-look leathers at all but an awful lot of retro leathers are either cheesy or cheap, or both. There's some better contenders for that sort of look now than there were back then. Wolf again! I don't rate them so highly that I wouldn't shop around, that's for sure, but there's a fair chance I'd end up with another Furygan jacket. (the Brookland in black and white, if I could find one)
Oh, one thing, I don't like the armour they used in my jacket, it's CE approved but it's bulky and definately a one-use armour... it's a 2-part with a high density outer and a soft foam inner, but the inner rips up when it's used, and also compresses over time and hardens. I replaced it with T-pro stuff.
Dave20046
11-01-09, 06:00 PM
Good gear, expensive and ultimately worth the money. Not popular over here because they weren't marketed properly at all really.
Nankai stuff's good!? My local bike shop sells nankai lids for £20.
Nankai lids are not made by the same people as Nankai leathers. Nankai Leathers were imported by Lloyd Lifestyle, Nankai lids are imported by Maxxis GB (Bickers). The two Nankais are two very different companies.
Nobbylad
12-01-09, 06:56 AM
Hein Gericke are doing the PSX Track II suit for £149. Used to be over £300 for the suit, but they're doing the jacket for £149 (down from £199) and the pants free.
That's really good to know. My bro did say when he bought them that they were good and a real bargain (think the original price was over a grand). Just need a decent and cheap helmet now!
Arai Condor. Look around online and you'll find them for about 170 quid in plain colours
Hein Gericke are doing the PSX Track II suit for £149. Used to be over £300 for the suit, but they're doing the jacket for £149 (down from £199) and the pants free.
Lozzo any thoughts on these?
Gericke leathers usually have a good reputation for the price. I'd say go for it
kwak zzr
12-01-09, 09:53 AM
come on lozzo :) i was looking at these too, trouble is they dont seem to have my size cus i'm only iccle :( only larger sizes left.
Dave20046
12-01-09, 11:49 AM
Hein Gericke are doing the PSX Track II suit for £149. Used to be over £300 for the suit, but they're doing the jacket for £149 (down from £199) and the pants free.
I was going to go for them but ended up going for the a*s octane suit for similar money.
Bl00dy hell - I just tried some leathers on, you have to be a contorsionist to get them on or off.............and how heavy?
yorkie_chris
12-01-09, 03:36 PM
Have you never seen the famous powerranger-needs-to-pee dance before?
Have you never seen the famous powerranger-needs-to-pee dance before?
Not as bad as doing a trackday the day after you've had a good curry night. First thing you do is check out where the bogs are and choose a garage close by, second thing is find a good mate who'll pull your leathers off your shoulders in a hurry, third thing is learn to run to the bogs without tripping up on flailing leathers
I was in J&S in Greenwich and almost had their changing curtains down........any advice on removing the damn things?
I was in J&S in Greenwich and almost had their changing curtains down........any advice on removing the damn things?
I'm not sure J&S would approve.
yorkie_chris
12-01-09, 04:21 PM
Lol ... "where's the bogroll in here..."
Advice is buy 2 piece!
I'm not sure J&S would approve.
Oh I dunno, when I was manager of Gericke in Harrow I had 2 of the Sugababes running round my shop in their bras and knickers looking for leathers to wear in a photoshoot - neither me or any of my staff complained.
Dave20046
12-01-09, 06:21 PM
It's all about the shoulderblade motion. close and contourt you shoulders and slip the arms off. I always get the armour stuck over my knees and deck it hilariously. I find them reassuringly heavy actually. Don't feel it when they're on though.
Nobbylad
12-01-09, 06:32 PM
So, I'll be off to try/pick up some leathers tomorrow...the advice is to get them a little tight is it, as they'll stretch/give over time?
phil24_7
12-01-09, 06:38 PM
This thread has given me plenty of food for thought. Cheers Loz for our invaluable input.
Regards
phil24_7
12-01-09, 06:46 PM
Nankai lids are not made by the same people as Nankai leathers. Nankai Leathers were imported by Lloyd Lifestyle, Nankai lids are imported by Maxxis GB (Bickers). The two Nankais are two very different companies.
Thought as much
Hein Gericke are doing the PSX Track II suit for £149. Used to be over £300 for the suit, but they're doing the jacket for £149 (down from £199) and the pants free.
Looks an absolute bargain.
Arai Condor. Look around online and you'll find them for about 170 quid in plain colours
Can only find em for £200!
kwak zzr
12-01-09, 07:14 PM
i paid £249 for mine.
northwind
12-01-09, 08:09 PM
For a Condor? Jeez... I paid £200 for my Astro R. Something like £170 for my Condor, but then that was nearly 5 years ago.
kwak zzr
12-01-09, 08:10 PM
it was a saint george model, HG had the plain models in for £199
Search online, I've seen plain colour Condors advertised for £170
Nobbylad
13-01-09, 11:47 AM
Bought my new PSX II 2-piece leather suit today from Hooters (the user, NOT the resatuarant!) off here.
Fantastic customer service and of course, a fantastic offer from HG!
Thanks Charli http://www.scouser-tommy.com/forum/images/smilies/handshake.gif
metalmonkey
13-01-09, 01:16 PM
Oh I dunno, when I was manager of Gericke in Harrow I had 2 of the Sugababes running round my shop in their bras and knickers looking for leathers to wear in a photoshoot - neither me or any of my staff complained.
Now did you take any pictures if so can I see them please;)
Getting back to leathers I got a pair of Teknic one piece leathers, just waiting for them to come now in the post. I don't really any ofgear heavy to wear, but when you have carry it about then it is.
My two piece leathers are the HG pro sports ones, I find them very comfy and they fit like a second skin, I actually prefer wearing leather to textile but its just a bit cold now for that! I#ll stick to my gortex gear.
Ceri JC
29-01-09, 12:04 PM
Lozzo, what's your opinion on the MJK off the peg stuff. Also you mention having to go to Holland to get the custom ones made. I was under the impression you could get measured by their man here and then they made them in Holland and shipped them over? Not really a problem for me if you do have to go over as I have mates/family in different bits of Holland.
I'll probably go for HG stuff now and replace with MJK customs when I can afford to. I had started saving for customs, but ended up having to spend that cash on some things the bike needed.
JamesMio
29-01-09, 03:59 PM
Lozzo / Anyone else 'in the know'
Anyone got any opinions/reviews on these?
http://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/shop/product_info.php/products_id/2875
Lozzo, just wanted to say your advice is great. I've found this thread useful, even though I've already got my leathers, got the ps classic set from hein gericke, got the trousers free. What do you recommend as the top brands? Does is it change from leathers to textiles?
Also, do you run a shop now?
Are there any leathers out there that look like this:
http://www.frank-thomas.co.uk/cgi-bin/ft_spec.pl?id=484.Predator%20Jacket
But obviously better quality?
I like the rounded shoulders, most have the joins so it makes you look wide shouldered, whereas that jacket has rounded shoulder joins.
phil24_7
13-02-09, 02:06 PM
hob - Have a look at some Arlen Ness or Berik stuff.
hob - Have a look at some Arlen Ness or Berik stuff.
Cheers matey :D
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