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Hi Guys
I've previously owned a SV650 on a restricted (*ahem*) license, however had to sell it to fund car insurance @ the age of 17!
However, now my 2 year restriction has expired I wanted something a bit different. I rode a few bikes, mainly fours, including a new ish zx6r, however the need to drop 5 cogs every time an additional 10mph was needed started to get a bit tedious! My heart was set on another v twin, initially the Ducati Sport 1000 in red, however at £5.5k for a 3 year old bike, whats the point.
I saw this behind a load of shizen (r1's, fazers etc) at a local dealers. Priced at £2995, I managed to get it for £2700.
Its got 14k on it, belly pan, double b' screen, seat cowl, and a fruity set of pipes. It needs setting up though as currently idles like a bag of hammers (pipes causing this).
timwilky
11-01-09, 09:36 AM
Having tried the twin brothers 1000s, I would do as he did.
2 blades, 996 and eventually something he really likes. You should have got a Mille.
I have to wonder?. You have limited experience on 33bhp and now got a full power SV1000. you even admit in your post to riding illegally as you say your 33bhp restriction is due to end. Not clever
Having competed in the GSXR cup riding 600's for the past year, I wouldnt say my riding experience was limited.
The thread has been ammended, my restriction has ended, I worded it wrong.
kwak zzr
11-01-09, 10:59 AM
the sv1000 is a very good under rated bike, i love all the time i spend on mine altho doesnt feel anything like the nimble 650 little brother.
u say you had trouble finding speed on a zx6r? you can rev to the red line you know lol
nice bike bud my bro's got one underrated even on this site.
Good choice, but what are those cans? They look tiny!
custard
11-01-09, 11:23 AM
welcome to the proper bike owners club :)
Paul the 6th
11-01-09, 11:24 AM
what's it like :) My missus' uncle is on about looking at an sv thou and I've tried to advise him as best I can but by the sounds of it, they're completely different bikes (heavier, slower steering but miles more thump)
Any advice matey :)
what's it like :) My missus' uncle is on about looking at an sv thou and I've tried to advise him as best I can but by the sounds of it, they're completely different bikes (heavier, slower steering but miles more thump)
Any advice matey :)
They are worlds apart.
Weight feels lower down, but more planted to the road.
Power is obvious. 65mph in 1st 90mph in 2nd etc. No really effort needed, just give it right hand in any gear.
Steering is slowing, can't throw it around like the 650. The thou needs to be man handled to get it around the tighter stuff, but stick it on a long left or right hander and you can just keep winding on the throttle.
Tyres on mine are replaced every 4k through the summer (every 3 months :( )
But the noise out of the sticky out 2 pipes sounds sooooo good!
:p
kwak zzr
11-01-09, 11:31 AM
good bikes they are, for the money the big v twin is a great buy, like has already been said slower steering but bags more stable on corners and at higher speeds, the only thing i missed was not being able to lock and slide the rear end.
custard
11-01-09, 11:39 AM
advice - yeah buy one! :)
as has been said, they are heavy but the grunt is addictive and it does feel very stable in corners. have mine on michelin pilot sports and the are fantastic!
I have to wonder?. You have limited experience on 33bhp and now got a full power SV1000. you even admit in your post to riding illegally as you say your 33bhp restriction is due to end. Not clever
What is the point of a 33bhp licence anyway? I'm dead against it, I find it patronising of the government to decide that a newly qualified bike rider is restricted to 33bhp but any idiot can pass a car test and drive a 500bhp Ferrari if he can insure it. Until I joined this site I didn't know of one rider who actually had restrictors in, in fact I even helped my own daughter remove the ones she had fitted to her NC30 and CBR600 as soon as she'd bought the bikes.
When I passed my test we didn't have stupid horsepower limits, no more people got hurt or killed back then because they had more power to play with. A 33bhp SV can still do 100mph, can still accelerate almost as quickly as a stock SV and has the same brakes and handling. Why does everyone gets so uptight about derstrictions. Of all the lads I knew who smashed themselves to bits or got killed back in the day, power was not a factor, and all had their incidents at under the 100mph a 33bhp bike is capable of - most were wiped out by car drivers so the fact that they had more than 33bhp didn't even come into it.
The 33bhp limit is a farce and another nanny-state restriction put in place 'to save ourselves from ourselves' - they can stick it where the sun doesn't shine along with all the other anti-freedom and anti-terrorism legislation passed by this moronic government who I didn't help vote in. I actively encourage newly licensed riders to ignore it. Go out and buy a GSXR1000 as soon as you pass your test, remove the restrictors and enjoy yourselves, you only live once so make the most of it.
yorkie_chris
11-01-09, 12:26 PM
What is the point of a 33bhp licence anyway? I'm dead against it, I find it patronising of the government to decide that a newly qualified bike rider is restricted to 33bhp
Don't we all, but try and get the silly c##ts to change the law.
Simple. pass test in another EU country that doesn't have the limit then get your license transferred to a UK one without the need for a retest.
What is the point of a 33bhp licence anyway? I'm dead against it, I find it patronising of the government to decide that a newly qualified bike rider is restricted to 33bhp but any idiot can pass a car test and drive a 500bhp Ferrari if he can insure it. Until I joined this site I didn't know of one rider who actually had restrictors in, in fact I even helped my own daughter remove the ones she had fitted to her NC30 and CBR600 as soon as she'd bought the bikes.
When I passed my test we didn't have stupid horsepower limits, no more people got hurt or killed back then because they had more power to play with. A 33bhp SV can still do 100mph, can still accelerate almost as quickly as a stock SV and has the same brakes and handling. Why does everyone gets so uptight about derstrictions. Of all the lads I knew who smashed themselves to bits or got killed back in the day, power was not a factor, and all had their incidents at under the 100mph a 33bhp bike is capable of - most were wiped out by car drivers so the fact that they had more than 33bhp didn't even come into it.
The 33bhp limit is a farce and another nanny-state restriction put in place 'to save ourselves from ourselves' - they can stick it where the sun doesn't shine along with all the other anti-freedom and anti-terrorism legislation passed by this moronic government who I didn't help vote in. I actively encourage newly licensed riders to ignore it. Go out and buy a GSXR1000 as soon as you pass your test, remove the restrictors and enjoy yourselves, you only live once so make the most of it.
At last, someone with some bloody sense!
NickWilde123
11-01-09, 05:38 PM
its the restriction a EU directive?? isnt that why it is also writen in kilowatts?? i think the Nederlands have the 33bhp aswell....
also i believe the 33bhp this is BS
What is the point of a 33bhp licence anyway? I'm dead against it, I find it patronising of the government to decide that a newly qualified bike rider is restricted to 33bhp but any idiot can pass a car test and drive a 500bhp Ferrari if he can insure it. Until I joined this site I didn't know of one rider who actually had restrictors in, in fact I even helped my own daughter remove the ones she had fitted to her NC30 and CBR600 as soon as she'd bought the bikes.
When I passed my test we didn't have stupid horsepower limits, no more people got hurt or killed back then because they had more power to play with. A 33bhp SV can still do 100mph, can still accelerate almost as quickly as a stock SV and has the same brakes and handling. Why does everyone gets so uptight about derstrictions. Of all the lads I knew who smashed themselves to bits or got killed back in the day, power was not a factor, and all had their incidents at under the 100mph a 33bhp bike is capable of - most were wiped out by car drivers so the fact that they had more than 33bhp didn't even come into it.
The 33bhp limit is a farce and another nanny-state restriction put in place 'to save ourselves from ourselves' - they can stick it where the sun doesn't shine along with all the other anti-freedom and anti-terrorism legislation passed by this moronic government who I didn't help vote in. I actively encourage newly licensed riders to ignore it. Go out and buy a GSXR1000 as soon as you pass your test, remove the restrictors and enjoy yourselves, you only live once so make the most of it. + a bilion lozzo you have a rare gift not often seen today common sense :D
yorkie_chris
11-01-09, 05:51 PM
Aye which EU countries have some sense in the matter?
Red Herring
11-01-09, 06:00 PM
Sort of on topic (well almost) does anyone know if the front end on the 1000 is as easily changed as the 650. I've got a complete spare GSXR600 K4 front end sitting in the garage from when I did my 650 conversion and knowing what a difference it made to the 650 I was playing with the idea of getting a 1000 and doing that as well..... (and no, there is no way I'm going to sell the 650!)
...like Lozzo has pointed out the bikes do 100mph restricted anyways...roll on good weather when I'll be taking a *look* at my bikes ecu.
I'm 19 and have to restrict my bike but I've been allowed to drive some of the directors cars at work since I was 17 or 18 which have a lot more power....Z4, 5 series (545i I think), and a couple of mercs which I don't know the model number of.
Don't see why they restrict the bikes but not cars...at least with a bike you're not as likely to injure other people if you crash where as with a car you'll have passengers and basically a 1200kg weapon.
Litre V twins always sounded good to me... good luck with it! :)
I joined sv-portal.com, quick post with the bike on it, said it needed the FI tweaking due to rough running and they are trying to tell me that the pipes werent causing the rough idle / low down problems.
Despite me saying several times that a quick re map with a yosh box fixed it!
It just goes to show how many on that forum listen to mates down the pub about the FI compensating for any changes made!
There board seems to be full of politics and a few arrogant so and so's who think they know it all.
Hey ho, I'll stick with this forum I think! :smt040
...like Lozzo has pointed out the bikes do 100mph restricted anyways...roll on good weather when I'll be taking a *look* at my bikes ecu.
I'm 19 and have to restrict my bike but I've been allowed to drive some of the directors cars at work since I was 17 or 18 which have a lot more power....Z4, 5 series (545i I think), and a couple of mercs which I don't know the model number of.
Don't see why they restrict the bikes but not cars...at least with a bike you're not as likely to injure other people if you crash where as with a car you'll have passengers and basically a 1200kg weapon.
Litre V twins always sounded good to me... good luck with it! :)
I would wait for the good weather mate, I used to put the 33BHP kit back on in ****e weather as I used to get "carried away".
Its not so much the power that caused me problems in the wet, but the engine breaking. Many a time I made a cack handed (or handless should I say) gearchange and locked up the back wheel breifly.
northwind
11-01-09, 06:17 PM
Nice choice that, lot of bike for the money!
What is the point of a 33bhp licence anyway? I'm dead against it, I find it patronising of the government to decide that a newly qualified bike rider is restricted to 33bhp but any idiot can pass a car test and drive a 500bhp Ferrari if he can insure it.
Yeah, but almost nobody can, so it kind of takes care of itself. You can go out with a grand and buy a scabby SRAD GSXR600, you can't really buy that sort of performance in a car... So the speed is much more accessble. Not that I really disagree with you btw, that's just the counter argument. Still, you did say that most of your mates' crashes were caused by cars, sadly that's not the case in general, most motorbike fatalities and serious injuries are single vehicle.
I couldn't care less whether cars have it different from bikes, for me that's not the point, it just comes down to the fact that the 33bhp restriction is fundamentally a bodge... It goes away after a time lapse in which you might not ride once (I know people that have done this, do the test today, wait 2 years then buy a bike- but in the meantime they forget how to ride so they're even worse than if they'd just got a bike on day one). The time lapse is no skill indicator.
And the 33bhp thing is a joke too. What's safer, an SV with 33bhp or 70bhp? Neither, since both will go at speeds which will kill you, and most accidents happen in bends anyway where power is irrelevant. And bhp is a terrible judge of performance, a derestricted RS125 is A1-legal and still an absolute weapon, a 40bhp Harley isn't legal and is around half as quick everywhere.
And age is no skill indicator either, I was still a child at 25, no more responsible than some 16 year olds, yet I'd have been allowed a turbo busa while they have to ride a mobility carriage.
But... I still wouldn't advise people to break the rules, because if you get caught out it's bad juju. The rules are stupid but that doesn't matter really.
a derestricted RS125 is A1-legal and still an absolute weapon,
I enquired about that but was told it did not meet the power to weight requirements....... :S
I would have loved an rs125, shame it wasnt a honda rs125 ay!
northwind
11-01-09, 07:22 PM
Hmm, it'd be a close run thing that actually, good shout. Depends how they calculate the weight frankly! The claimed weights are all over the place, if I've got it right I think it'd maybe be legal to ride with a fuel tank and illegal when it's empty :mrgreen: Still, you could knock a couple of bhp off the top and it'd still be a tool.
The 2008 Race Version of the RS125 is still quite fast, cant remember how much my mate said his weighs.. Its kicking out 26-28 bhp, because of the emmission restrictions..
After done alot of miles on it, was away a biking trip with him, it and my SV, would say its a little bit slower off the line so to speak, but for overtaking and pulling away from speed, its not that great..
But thing handles beautifully...
Dont agree with the 33bhp license thing either, but what can we do? :(
I know what you mean about the SV being a bit tedious with the 33bhp restriction, however I learnt to ride mine properly to keep up with the bigger bikes. The amount of blades and r1's that passed me on the straights then hit the brakes like a chicken at the slightest camber in the road! Straight up the inside of them! :smt072
With the restrictors in I never really went above 5-6k, keep short shifting, it picks up rather quickly.
I remember my top speed of 112 (gps proven) was in 5th instead of top lol
gettin2dizzy
11-01-09, 08:35 PM
I joined sv-portal.com, quick post with the bike on it, said it needed the FI tweaking due to rough running and they are trying to tell me that the pipes werent causing the rough idle / low down problems.
Despite me saying several times that a quick re map with a yosh box fixed it!
It just goes to show how many on that forum listen to mates down the pub about the FI compensating for any changes made!
There board seems to be full of politics and a few arrogant so and so's who think they know it all.
Hey ho, I'll stick with this forum I think! :smt040
Just ask them where the sensor in the exhaust is? ;)
For the restricted license debate, I know there are flaws, but my basic thoughts are that if I had the SV at 17 instead of the RD125 then I'd have been much more likely to have killed myself.
As sad as it is, I for one am getting more sensible with age.
Just ask them where the sensor in the exhaust is? ;)
I had thought of that, however I really cant be bothered with the bunch of ignorant ole gits.
They have gone quiet now, my idea is they are off down to the pub to listen to more bull from their mates!
I've asked for my account to be deleted :mrgreen:
Aye which EU countries have some sense in the matter?
Malta, Italy, Spain, and your choice of the former communist block countries.
Malta, Italy, Spain, and your choice of the former communist block countries.
Yup, but the subject of a restricted license appears more and more often in the media (PL) and as you know, it's a perfect subject for newspapers.
Personally, I don't like the fact that a license could be restricted, but if you hear about w@nkers buying rr's for their first bikes and crashing at 100ish speeds in town, you kinda get the point...
yorkie_chris
12-01-09, 12:14 PM
That's their choice, and that sort of rider would not restrict their bikes anyway.
Worst thing is if you get a bigger bike they run really badly (v rich) with some types of restriction sold as perfect answer.
(Fi international kits for injected bikes... the bunch of useless, robbing w4nkers they are)
Tyres on mine are replaced every 4k through the summer (every 3 months :( )
Try Pilot Power 2CT. I'm getting more milage than that on a 'full fat' thou including track days.
Ratty
Try Pilot Power 2CT. I'm getting more milage than that on a 'full fat' thou including track days.
Ratty
Yeah thats what i'm currently on had 5k and still good and its a FULL FAT THOU!
Jools'SV Now
16-01-09, 11:08 PM
nice bike, but how are going to get it up the stairs of the local public toilets:confused::D
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