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daz_ash
22-01-09, 08:59 PM
i want to get a twin exhust for my bike, but cant seem 2 find 1 for my sv any 1 no were i can get 1 ??

zsv650
22-01-09, 09:01 PM
laser do em i think remus might aswell their a bit carp though all they do is add weight and add no power i asked ages ago too look good though.

kwak zzr
22-01-09, 09:03 PM
renagade do too dont they.

mattSV
22-01-09, 09:06 PM
renagade do too dont they.

Renegade DID do them for curvies however Jorge has now gone back to Portugal.

Anyway, Dangerous Dave doesn't like them ;)

daz_ash
22-01-09, 09:08 PM
all i need is down pipes coz putting aqupovic cans cos there lighter

kwak zzr
22-01-09, 09:15 PM
steve god had twin high level on his pointy? thought they were renegade?

Sally
22-01-09, 09:18 PM
Check Amplimator's avatar.
He has twin exhausts, PM him, found out.. :)

I bought his old one :D

daz_ash
22-01-09, 09:31 PM
Check Amplimator's avatar.
He has twin exhausts, PM him, found out.. :)

I bought his old one :D

who were ? confused ere

John 675
22-01-09, 09:35 PM
ixil defo do them, or used to anyhow
http://www.ixil.com/HTML/indexIN.html

DarrenSV650S
22-01-09, 09:39 PM
ixil defo do them, or used to anyhow
http://www.ixil.com/HTML/indexIN.html
Ooooh they have some nice stubies
http://www.ixil.com/HTML/images/GALLERY/XOV.jpg

dyzio
22-01-09, 11:07 PM
who were ? confused ere

Amplimator (http://forums.sv650.org/member.php?u=9763)

northwind
23-01-09, 12:32 AM
all i need is down pipes coz putting aqupovic cans cos there lighter

No offence but that makes no sense :) You'll save a little weight with light cans but you'd save a lot more by only having one can... Not to mention probably getting better power. It does look decent though, if done right. I miss mine :( even if they did cost me power, weigh as much as a planet, and cause premature deafness.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/Northwindlowlander/bike%20photos/lhsfull.jpg

daz_ash
23-01-09, 12:36 AM
well its restricted anyways so gotta make it look good, as stuped as that sounds :)

northwind
23-01-09, 12:43 AM
Nah, that makes sense. Just don't worry about a few hundred grams here or there, it's peanuts on the grand scheme. Shed 25 kilos, you notice :mrgreen:

daz_ash
23-01-09, 12:47 AM
lol but i still havnt found wee i can get the twin cans from sooo help links plz lol

yorkie_chris
23-01-09, 02:02 AM
spk nglish u cnt!

Try renegade, or zorstec.

Amplimator
23-01-09, 08:13 AM
Laser extreme twin pipes are awesome! ok so, they dont add power but for godsakes which after-market cans do on the SV??? they do help smooth out power delivery a bit an sound freakin rood ;)

a re-map/re-jet aint necessary either so jus bolt on

and as for the weight issue, i did weigh up the original can AND the laser cans/pipes/straps etc and found them to be pretty much the same! so that puts an end to that myth too.....

if you want some buy em....its your bike an u gotta enjoy it;)

regards
Amp


BTW my original thread be ere >

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=121234

SoulKiss
23-01-09, 08:18 AM
spk nglish u cnt!

YC - He's blunt, but he has a point

hovis
23-01-09, 08:47 AM
who were ? confused ere me too
:confused:
spk nglish u cnt!

.
+1


squirrel hunter had twin renegades they were VERY LOUD

put an ad in the wanted section on here, and check out ebay

Viney
23-01-09, 08:53 AM
If you just want pipework for your existing cans then try www.zorstec.com (http://www.zorstec.com) I'm sure if you take your bike there with your cans they will make the pipework to fit.

As said, Renegade are no longer as far as i know anyway. I know that the plan was to produce the cans out there and send them over, hwoever, Jorge had a few issues with some racing stuff and it never happened.

IXIL and laser are your only bets, but im sure they wont just sell the paperwork.

AS for all this weight saving malarky, i mean, a twin Renegade system at the time was about 2/3rds of the wieght of the stock can, and if weigth is really your worry then either ride naked, or stop eating pies!

TheStudent
23-01-09, 09:33 AM
YC - He's blunt, but he has a point

+1

daz_ash
23-01-09, 09:35 AM
ok look im sorry i struggle with me spellin a little bit ok, and kinda hard typing with 1 hand atm

Luckypants
23-01-09, 09:37 AM
Laser extreme twin pipes are awesome!

I think laser are out of the question, the OP has a curvy from the photo in his profile.

Viney
23-01-09, 09:39 AM
ok look im sorry i struggle with me spellin a little bit ok, and kinda hard typing with 1 hand atmHey dude, no need to appologise. Just try to ease up on text speak, YC is an old timer you see and he doesn't understand ;)

hovis
23-01-09, 09:47 AM
ok look im sorry i struggle with me spellin a little bit ok, and kinda hard typing with 1 hand atm

then stop what your doing with the other hand, this is not that type of site;)

daz_ash
23-01-09, 09:49 AM
i broke me finger coz of a bike crash erlia this week and me arms straped up to try and stop it bleeding

Amplimator
23-01-09, 09:58 AM
I think laser are out of the question, the OP has a curvy from the photo in his profile.

kk good point....

get a pointy! :p *runs like hell...

21QUEST
23-01-09, 10:07 AM
YC - He's blunt, but he has a point

me too
:confused:

+1


squirrel hunter had twin renegades they were VERY LOUD

put an ad in the wanted section on here, and check out ebay

+1


Morning Lads,

For all you guys saying '+1', are you morons, idiots, stupid or just feel it's cool for you to pretend to be f_cking cnuts?

Why do I ask that? I really don't believe anyone(with half a brain atleast) wouldn't prefer to make themselves understood in a similar manner to majority of members of ANY forum.

I can see why YC might have been irritated but that there are better ways to get the point across...if need is felt.

Sorry for the blunt post lads.....



Ben

squirrel_hunter
23-01-09, 10:26 AM
squirrel hunter had twin renegades they were VERY LOUD


Squirrel Hunter has Twin Renegades, but hes never put them on his bike.

Squirrel Hunter used a Single High Level Renegade on his first SV, and yes it was loud, probably something to do with the lack of packing and the hole in the down pipes... But it was loud even when the pipes were solid... Even louder when the exhaust fell off though...

TheStudent
23-01-09, 10:27 AM
Morning Lads,

For all you guys saying '+1', are you morons, idiots, stupid or just feel it's cool for you to pretend to be f_cking cnuts?

Why do I ask that? I really don't believe anyone(with half a brain atleast) wouldn't prefer to make themselves understood in a similar manner to majority of members of ANY forum.

I can see why YC might have been irritated but that there are better ways to get the point across...if need is felt.

Sorry for the blunt post lads.....



Ben

Do you need a hug?

21QUEST
23-01-09, 10:37 AM
Do you need a hug?
Student, do you fancy giving me one? That being the case, knock yourself out buddy...I promise not to bite :D

This would be my last post to you so don't bother coming up with more sh_t ....


Ben

TheStudent
23-01-09, 10:41 AM
Student, do you fancy giving me one? That being the case, knock yourself out buddy...I promise not to bite :D

This would be my last post to you so don't bother coming up with more sh_t ....


Ben

Been a pleasure.

Back to the topic at hand, are single (traditional side) exhaust motorbikes designed heavier on one side due to the exhaust? Or designed balanced?

I know exhaust don't weigh too much but in changing from single to dual, is there the possibility of upsetting balance?

Amplimator
23-01-09, 10:50 AM
Been a pleasure.

Back to the topic at hand, are single (traditional side) exhaust motorbikes designed heavier on one side due to the exhaust? Or designed balanced?

I know exhaust don't weigh too much but in changing from single to dual, is there the possibility of upsetting balance?

if that were the case it would be the same for 2 into 1 systems on a sv1000 (tho opposite effect)

cant say ive noticed a difference tho im no expert lol

Amp

Dave20046
23-01-09, 10:54 AM
Check my post on viper exhausts for SV's, see if viper do a twin...

yorkie_chris
23-01-09, 11:26 AM
There will be some offset weight, but in the order of you needing to put 1% more force into your little pinky when you have your right foot down. Nothing worth considering.

Also it is worth mentioning if you go for renegades, do not use the renegade air kit as it's pretty useless. Treat them like a slip-on exhaust.

If you decide to take a trip up to zorstec, have a chat with them, they will almost certainly be able to build you a renegade system (just weld another boss straight onto the back of the stock pipework, bodgetastic!) or if your wallet stretches far enough then they will probably be able to build you a full system which actually flows properly.

squirrel_hunter
23-01-09, 12:07 PM
Also it is worth mentioning if you go for renegades, do not use the renegade air kit as it's pretty useless. Treat them like a slip-on exhaust.

Is that the filter, the velocity stacks, or the main jets you have a problem with, or the whole combination? Therefore is there any part of the kit that you consider worthwhile? And what findings do you base your statement on?

Dangerous Dave
23-01-09, 12:46 PM
Anyway, Dangerous Dave doesn't like them ;)
Very true, the design messed up the flow of the headers and the 2-2 connection was famous for being welded to last days not years! They add weight and no power, also nobody has ever managed to replicate Renegades dyno results on any other dyno. Massively over priced, especially when you consider the downpipes are yours already!

If you are really interested in adding weight and gaining no power then for a Curvy have a look at Ixil (although they use a cross over under the seat) or for a Pointy try the Laser half system. Neither are performance exhausts, all for aesthetics.

husky03
23-01-09, 01:10 PM
Got mine purely for looks-I think that the bike looks better with twin cans, but its just my own opinion-each to there own

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MyZBTBsWyio

Steve_God
23-01-09, 01:47 PM
steve god had twin high level on his pointy? thought they were renegade?
They are indeed! :D

However as MattSV (and others) mentioned - the owner has moved to Portugal :(

If they can find one second hand, they're brilliant!

yorkie_chris
23-01-09, 02:37 PM
Is that the filter, the velocity stacks, or the main jets you have a problem with, or the whole combination? Therefore is there any part of the kit that you consider worthwhile? And what findings do you base your statement on?

The filter flows worse than stock IMO, it's absolutely miles behind the BMC race or race RS. I have tried one in my bike.

The velocity stacks, I have not tried.

Main jets is main jets whatever company they come from. Jet right for whatever setup and it will be the same whether you are on dynojet kits, mikuni parts or renegades ones.

hovis
23-01-09, 05:59 PM
Morning Lads,

For all you guys saying '+1', are you morons, idiots, stupid or just feel it's cool for you to pretend to be f_cking cnuts?

Why do I ask that? I really don't believe anyone(with half a brain atleast) wouldn't prefer to make themselves understood in a similar manner to majority of members of ANY forum.

I can see why YC might have been irritated but that there are better ways to get the point across...if need is felt.

Sorry for the blunt post lads.....



Ben

who took the jam out of your donut?

21QUEST
23-01-09, 07:04 PM
who took the jam out of your donut?

The Fairy with the sweet tooth ;)



Ben

northwind
23-01-09, 07:10 PM
The renegade airkit is total, total gash. Just dismal design, it needs tank spacers (though the directions say NOT to use them) otherwise the filter actually hits the sound dampening foam under the tank and chokes itself. The only way it's possible to mess up that much is that either it was designed for tank spacers then the instructions were changed, or it was tested with the tank up on the dyno. I reckon it was the latter.

Their exhausts, well, if it wasn't for the price and the dyno claims they'd be alright I reckon, I've not seen the problems DD describes with the welding on any of the bikes I know with them, though that's not to say it doesn't happen. But as it is you pay top drawer for 2 slipons and a bodge.

laser look good, I always think they sound awful though, v-twins should growl, laser rasp. But that's personal taste.

Zorstec have made a longstanding and succesful business out of making exhausts that, no matter what they're fitted to, lose exactly 10% power over standard. it's uncanny. Crossflow, 1.8T, SV650, you name it.

mattSV
23-01-09, 07:22 PM
The renegade airkit is total, total gash. Just dismal design, it needs tank spacers (though the directions say NOT to use them) otherwise the filter actually hits the sound dampening foam under the tank and chokes itself. The only way it's possible to mess up that much is that either it was designed for tank spacers then the instructions were changed, or it was tested with the tank up on the dyno. I reckon it was the latter.

Their exhausts, well, if it wasn't for the price and the dyno claims they'd be alright I reckon, I've not seen the problems DD describes with the welding on any of the bikes I know with them, though that's not to say it doesn't happen. But as it is you pay top drawer for 2 slipons and a bodge.

laser look good, I always think they sound awful though, v-twins should growl, laser rasp. But that's personal taste.

Zorstec have made a longstanding and succesful business out of making exhausts that, no matter what they're fitted to, lose exactly 10% power over standard. it's uncanny. Crossflow, 1.8T, SV650, you name it.

I had the renegade cans and airkit (with tank spacers) on my old curvy, never had any issues with quality or running in the 3 years or so I had them. I still have the dyno runs somewhere however won't post them as I know they don't mean nuffing :-D.

When I bought the cans back in 2000, I don't think anyone else was doing the twin set up - I liked the look and sound of them, so bought them. Yeah they were a lot of money ( I paid £660 including fitting and dyno run) but I never stopped grinning at the sound everytime I rode it.

Had the airkit fitted later - can't remember how much that was, however I was biking to London every day then so was getting paid about £55 a day in expenses - that all went towards the airkit, a set of 010s etc ;) Going back to Renagade to have the airkit fitted was also a damn goodexcuse to have a good rideout all across the south downs to Kent, and then tuck in to the chinese takeaway that Jorge & Tomoko used to lay on, which was nice.

northwind
23-01-09, 07:25 PM
Oh, I meant to say that I do still have the intake stacks in mine, they seem to slightly improve the mids although it's small enough that it could just be placebo. I don't care, placebo is as good as real hp on the road :mrgreen:

daz_ash
23-01-09, 07:26 PM
lol any 1 selling a twin exhust then coz im still no closer to getting 1 except emaling some exhust companys for quots

phil24_7
24-01-09, 08:53 PM
I MAY eventually get around to fitting my twin cans at some point, as I think it's stupid to keep them behind the sofa, with the single sided high level and soon to be joined by a damage (to be stubied) fuel can!!

Dave20046
24-01-09, 09:01 PM
Nevermind..

kwak zzr
24-01-09, 10:16 PM
yea +1 lol