View Full Version : muslims and jews at it again
complaining about a cricket teams name now.......
so the team have had to change there name
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2195030.ece
A COUNTY cricket team has scrapped its name after complaints from outraged Muslims and Jews.
Middlesex Crusaders will play one-day cricket next season as The Panthers.
well they can feck orf if they try complaining about the celtic crusaders, now we are in the super league:cheers:
madness
02-02-09, 09:08 PM
I'm afraid it's the way that this country is going. Political Correctness gone mad.
northwind
02-02-09, 09:15 PM
so the team have had to change there name
Had to? No. Chose to. Huge difference.
NickWilde123
02-02-09, 09:16 PM
screw that, when did Britain lose it backbone?
Okay, deep breath & let's not start marching anyone to Belsen just yet.
The chief exec of the cricket club is quoted as saying, "“The name was nothing whatsoever to do with the Crusades in the 11th and 12th century" yet there's a photo of an fan wearing a t-shirt with a knight in armour on it.
If there was an, for example, irish team trying to promote irish football to the kids & they called their team, I dunno, the docklands bombers - I think I'd be a tad pi$$ed off.
So, y'know, pretty please, let's not start with this minority-bashing again!
madness
02-02-09, 09:27 PM
But IRA bombing are within living mermory and the Crusades where hundreds of years ago when mankind didn't know any better.
Jinxy43
02-02-09, 10:05 PM
So does that also mean that the PC Brigade will ask Saracens Rugby club to change their name as it was a Middle Ages nickname giving to those who professed the religion Islam, by Europeans.
What about the use of the word Moor, again used to describe people of several historic and modern populations of Muslim (and earlier non-Muslim) people of Berber descent from North Africa, some of whom came to inhabit the Iberian Peninsula.
So is Dartmoor and Bodmin moor, now respectfully called Dart and Bodmin.
I am not trying to start any minority bashing threads, just saying that this country has gone PC mad,
NickWilde123
02-02-09, 10:13 PM
surely being PC is racist because it show that there is a differance between races, im not racist and i believe everyone is equal but i cant see how this isnt racism by the government
Alpinestarhero
02-02-09, 10:17 PM
its not racism, or anything-ism
its just stupidness
I bet its the minority that are "offended" when the majority of muslims and jews probably dont give a monkeys
northwind
02-02-09, 10:19 PM
i cant see how this isnt racism by the government
Er, the government have nothing to do with it! The club received a couple of complaints and decided to act on it. Everyone's saying "PC" but maybe they just figure that if their name puts people off, it'll lower their gates. After all, the man says himself that it's a crusade to draw people into the sport.
I might start a cricket team, the Edinburgh Islamic Jihadists :mrgreen:
madness
02-02-09, 10:23 PM
I might start a cricket team, the Edinburgh Islamic Jihadists :mrgreen:
Do it. Anyone with any common sense won't bat an eyelid!
northwind
02-02-09, 10:27 PM
Yes they will, cricket in Scotland? Are you insane? :mrgreen:
madness
02-02-09, 10:28 PM
Yes they will, cricket in Edinburgh? Are you insane? :mrgreen:
Ha, Ha! ;)
NickWilde123
02-02-09, 10:28 PM
damn you beat me to that lol
Dicky Ticker
02-02-09, 10:52 PM
Doh--Thought you meant with rockets and bombs,after all it was hundreds of years ago
Okay, deep breath & let's not start marching anyone to Belsen just yet.
The chief exec of the cricket club is quoted as saying, "“The name was nothing whatsoever to do with the Crusades in the 11th and 12th century" yet there's a photo of an fan wearing a t-shirt with a knight in armour on it.
If there was an, for example, irish team trying to promote irish football to the kids & they called their team, I dunno, the docklands bombers - I think I'd be a tad pi$$ed off.
So, y'know, pretty please, let's not start with this minority-bashing again!
There's a good old religious saying that transcends many different religions
"The sins of the fathers shall be visited upon the sons"
Isn't it about time these religious maniacs kept their mouths shut when it comes to their sky-fairy worship, and just let people get on with their daily lives. I for one am sick and tired of political correctness - if a woman has what I think are great breasts or backside I want the right to be able to tell her so without fear of getting put on the sex offenders register. If a Muslim doesn't like his kids seeing others eating pig products, then tell him not to come and live in a predominantly christian society. If it were down to me I'd end the ritual mutilation of jewish boys by making cirumcision for religious purposes illegal, punishable by life imprisonment under child cruelty laws. That'd put the cat amongst the pigeons.
Political correctness is blighting our lives. All too often we are afraid to speak up for fear of being branded racist, sexist, ageist etc.
yorkie_chris
03-02-09, 12:49 AM
I do notice hovy wovy has lit the blue touch paper and retired :-P
I'd say people who complain are just a bunch of kn0bbers, ignore them and they'll go away.
Balky001
03-02-09, 01:20 AM
I wonder how many peope wanted the name to stay the same if only 1 or 2 complained. Always give way to the loudest/moaniest seems a fact of life as organisations are so worried they'll be fleeced in the courts by the litigious
timwilky
03-02-09, 09:03 AM
What I first thought about when I read the article was how the word crusade and derivatives are used within the middle east as an insulting title applied to non Arabs to wind up the locals against occupying military forces. I suppose it does conjure up the memory of the atrocities committed in the name of Christianity nearly 800 years ago.
However, there is no need to change name. FFS if I remember correctly even the daily express has a crusader as its logo.
To my mind theses days crusade/crusader etc is someone who works tirelessly for a cause
I do notice hovy wovy has lit the blue touch paper and retired :-P
I'd say people who complain are just a bunch of kn0bbers, ignore them and they'll go away.
i agree, they should be ignored, or better still told to feck off, but thats the problem, your automaticly branded a racist, if you are to disagree
Luckypants
03-02-09, 09:29 AM
What I first thought about when I read the article was how the word crusade and derivatives are used within the middle east as an insulting title applied to non Arabs to wind up the locals against occupying military forces. I suppose it does conjure up the memory of the atrocities committed in the name of Christianity nearly 800 years ago.
However, there is no need to change name. FFS if I remember correctly even the daily express has a crusader as its logo.
To my mind theses days crusade/crusader etc is someone who works tirelessly for a cause
Tim
You make a good point. It is entirely these different interpretations of the word that make this so difficult. To most people in the UK the word crusader will mean a tireless worker for a cause or someone trying to get a law changed etc. as you point out.
To a Muslim, especially one from the middle east, it represents a war on their religion. George Bush lost the support of Muslim community after 9/11 by announcing a crusade against terrorism, by the time he changed the rhetoric to a 'War on Terror' the damage was done.
I can see why the word is inflammatory to a Muslim, but this is putatively a Christian country and the word should be interpreted by local conditions. I see no reason why they should change the name of the team.
It's all a load of ********
Biker Biggles
03-02-09, 11:05 AM
Kow towing to a vocal minority is short sighted IMO.Look at the implications arising from the single lawyer sueing Croft circuit.If we cant do something that might offend someone we will never be allowed to do anything.
chris8886
03-02-09, 11:40 AM
So does that also mean that the PC Brigade will ask Saracens Rugby club to change their name as it was a Middle Ages nickname giving to those who professed the religion Islam, by Europeans.
What about the use of the word Moor, again used to describe people of several historic and modern populations of Muslim (and earlier non-Muslim) people of Berber descent from North Africa, some of whom came to inhabit the Iberian Peninsula.
So is Dartmoor and Bodmin moor, now respectfully called Dart and Bodmin.
I am not trying to start any minority bashing threads, just saying that this country has gone PC mad,
i agree with this and i'd be really miffed if my local team who i've supported for the last 10 years that they've been in watford and now partially work for, suddenly decided to change their name.
would you expect something like this to happen if you were a christian living in a majority muslim or jewish country and see the name changed? i don't bloomin well think so!
I really hope they don't get wind of this website, they might think were raising another army, http://www.crusader-holidays.co.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx
Paul the 6th
03-02-09, 01:18 PM
Good old religion :)
Has anyone seen mad max? That's what's going to happen you know
husky03
03-02-09, 02:15 PM
Has anyone seen mad max? That's what's going to happen you know
too right it is-there's groups "training for survival" and waiting for this to happen-when it does it'll be interesting to see what happens to all the religious nutters.
Paul the 6th
03-02-09, 02:25 PM
too right it is-there's groups "training for survival" and waiting for this to happen-when it does it'll be interesting to see what happens to all the religious nutters.
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"Only when the last tree
Has been cut down
And the last river
Has dried to a trickle
Will man finally realise
That we cannot eat money
And reciting old proverbs
Makes you sound like a tw*t"
Banksy
Paul the 6th
03-02-09, 02:27 PM
on a more serious note, am I the only one who's had some drunken skinhead shouting in my ear whilst in the pub "YOU KNOW THIS COUNTRY IS GONNA GO THE SAME WAY AS GERMANY DID JUST AS THE NAZI'S CAME IN... OH YEAH, RECESSION, ETHNIC MINORITIES AND SEGREGATION, THE BNP PUTTING THEIR STUFF ABOUT... WE'RE JUST WAITING TO SEE WHO'S GONNA BE THE NEXT HITLER"
Needless to say, I had to nip out to use my phone for a minute... Taxi! Not sure why the guy even started talking to me, but I've heard quite a few different people saying similar things :(
sv-robo
03-02-09, 04:47 PM
:smt072
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