Pillion ideas?

[John 675]

Me and Mrs-Lylej are mulling over how she will be able to be comfy on the 675, we were thinking of those Love handle things.. but they wont stop her ramming me into the tank when braking.. so were not sure. there we have seen these tank grips online.. but there like £350.. which seems a little steep.
the problem being that i dont like having someone hanging on to me when im riding.. because they restrict my movement as i shift around quite alot.. can you get after market grab rails? i thought rentec did them but i couldnt find one for the 675.. that would solve the issue i think.. hmm..

[Dave20046]

we were thinking of those Love handle things.. but they wont stop her ramming me into the tank when braking.. .
Can't she reach the foot rests?

[John 675]

yes mate, what i mean is if she is holding onto handles around my waist.. then i brake her forward force pushes on to me.

[Dave20046]

yes mate, what i mean is if she is holding onto handles around my waist.. then i brake her forward force pushes on to me.
Ah I didn't think that woul happen if she had her feet on the pegs but I've never been a pillion so ! I've heard the love handles are good can't comment on the tank ones.

[Luckypants]

Get a bike suitable for pillions, not with a token effort? :twisted:

[madness]

I'm not sure that the 675 was really designed for carrying a pillion that frequently.
Perhaps you should:-

A) Get a bike better suited to carrying a pillion or

B) Get her to do her DAS and then she can have a bike of her own (SV)

[kwak zzr]

the 675 aint ever gonna be an ideal pillion bike bit like mine.

[Mr Speirs]

Grippy seat. Will hold her bum in place and will provide a sure footing for her to use her own muscles to limit upper body movement.

Kerri and I had the same issues, Kerri would always be holding onto me and the grabrail at the same time. I bought a triboseat thing and I didnt feel her weight on me again. I asked her afterwards and she said she hadn't even needed to hold onto the grabrail.

[John 675]

what if i combined this
http://www.motorcycle.com/images/content/Product/08_aug_triboseat_01.jpg

with this..
http://www.mcs-scotland.co.uk/ProductImages2/124_orig.jpg
but instead of being around my waste i loop it under the pillion seat? would that work? like grab rails at her side.. hmm

[kwak zzr]

half the funs hanging on hehe

[fizzwheel]

Why dont you get her to put her arm right round you and push against the fuel tank ?

[Dave20046]

I think thats a good idea, much better than £300. Or you could make a cheap equivellent and get a couple of strips of velcro and stick some to her leathers/textiles and some to the seat.

PS Nice use of images 8)

[John 675]

Why dont you get her to put her arm right round you and push against the fuel tank ?

yeah we were going down that route as thats what i personaly prefer but she complains that her back and arms and legs hurt.. but i think thats because she is new to the bike.. she doesnt :rolleyes:

[RichT]

Grippy seat. Will hold her bum in place and will provide a sure footing for her to use her own muscles to limit upper body movement.

Kerri and I had the same issues, Kerri would always be holding onto me and the grabrail at the same time. I bought a triboseat thing and I didnt feel her weight on me again. I asked her afterwards and she said she hadn't even needed to hold onto the grabrail.

+1 for the Tibroseat. I got one for the other half and it made a huge difference.

[petevtwin650]

Wundaweb type seat covering and using the the fuel tank has got to be the way to go. Maybe you'll have to rein in your riding for a bit until your missus gets used to using different muscles and finding the seating position that suits you both.

[John 675]

Wundaweb type seat covering and using the the fuel tank has got to be the way to go. Maybe you'll have to rein in your riding for a bit until your missus gets used to using different muscles and finding the seating position that suits you both.

yeah i suppose it wouldnt be a problem if i didnt shift it.. thats a good point mate

[speedplay]

yeah we were going down that route as thats what i personaly prefer but she complains that her back and arms and legs hurt.. but i think thats because she is new to the bike.. she doesnt :rolleyes:

My mrs complains about that too.
She holds onto the grab rail (which I hate) and I prefer her to hold onto me.
After nearly losing her a while ago I got some pillion pal handles and we seem to get on ok with them.

[fizzwheel]

Of course the best solution is to get your other half to do her test and get her own bike ;)

Liz sits on the back of my GSXR one had through the strap on the seat and the other hand shes been know to use to text on her phone. I'm pretty sure I'e also felt her go to sleep on the back to. Normally I dont even notice shes there.

Sounds like your other half isnt very confident on the back of the 675.

[SoulKiss]

Get a bike suitable for pillions, not with a token effort? :twisted:

+1, but remember you dont have to go down the whole pipe-n-slippers route of a Viffer........

:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twis ted:

[John 675]

Of course the best solution is to get your other half to do her test and get her own bike ;)

Liz sits on the back of my GSXR one had through the strap on the seat and the other hand shes been know to use to text on her phone. I'm pretty sure I'e also felt her go to sleep on the back to. Normally I dont even notice shes there.

Sounds like your other half isnt very confident on the back of the 675.

shes pretty new to the whole biking thing to be fair to her so its semi understandable.. i think when the weather is loads nicer we will go for some slow bimbles... the only problem is that the 675 and slow arnt compatable words lol... however i will try to be good lol,

we are now looking at intercomms too.. however ive been told to get one with an ipod mode.. so im not deafened with "yakity yak yak.". mels pretty good to be honest though.. well at the mo ;)

[missyburd]

yeah i suppose it wouldnt be a problem if i didnt shift it..
I'm surprised you need to move that much. I don't notice YC moving at all (body-wise, obviously he moves his arms and head :p ).

I'm not familiar with the position a pillion would be in on a 675, does it make it difficult for the pillion to grip with their legs properly? As in squeeze into you as opposed to moving forward?

If MrsLylej is finding herself being shunted forward to much then maybe you just need to change your riding style a little and break a bit more gently?

As someone mentioned, there are a few muscles being used which she won't be used to and so they are bound to be a bit sore until she gets used to it :)

[G]

Bloody hell theres a MRSLylej? you dont mess about :eek: or is it a Miss?

Those Tribo seats look pretty damned cool the rr pillion seat slipperyness is the biggest problem with me aswell....that looks like the ideal solution.

[mr.anderson]

Clamp with her legs! She'll moan about being stiff at first, but then will be happier after a bit of practise once she's gained inner thigh strength. (Plus there are other added bonuses to this...)

I seriously recommend that you convince her to out her hand on the tank - has save me a few potentially uncomfortable moments.

[SoulKiss]

For the record I fixed the matter of the Z750 pillion seat being a bit underpadded by springing for a Bagster Seatster :)

£300 well spent.....

[Dave20046]

I'd just sell the wife

[DMC]

Its a shame there aint an after market grab rail for your bike, this would have helped. One hand on the rail and one around you.

Next time you go out get her to try gripping the bike with the inside of her knees/legs - horse riding style. She'll probably find this difficult the first time, but this will ultimately make her more stable on the back of the bike with practice.

Also, as Pete has said, rein in your riding when Mrs is on the back, try to be smoother, less hard braking etc.

At the end of the day, just practice, the more shes pillion, the easier it will get, just get her to use her knees! A good pillion wont need to hold onto the rider :thumleft:

[zunkus]

I really can't see anyone riding pillion for great distances on the Daytona or any recent sportbike for that matter. I'm amazed they're legal. There is absolutely noting to hang on to and the feet are so high up and cramped your circulation stops after 50miles perched up there plus you get most of the wind blast. I'm amazed the wife likes riding pillion on my SV, I wouldn't and the SV is one of the comfiest IMO for pillions. My brother has a Kwak Z750 and although basically a road bike there's only a leather strap around the back seat to hang on to. Why are the manufacturers making bikes with two seats when the rear is near imposible to use?

[G]

I really can't see anyone riding pillion for great distances on the Daytona or any recent sportbike for that matter. I'm amazed they're legal. There is absolutely noting to hang on to and the feet are so high up and cramped your circulation stops after 50miles perched up there plus you get most of the wind blast. I'm amazed the wife likes riding pillion on my SV, I wouldn't and the SV is one of the comfiest IMO for pillions.

My kerry can comfortably do between fuel stops on the 600rr which is about 100-120 miles.

Infact she has even said before that it is much more comfortable than the sv because she is higher up and in a better position.

[the_lone_wolf]

Clamp with her legs! She'll moan about being stiff at first, but then will be happier after a bit of practise once she's gained inner thigh strength.

http://deansguide.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/quagmire.jpg

[petevtwin650]

Riding two up is like riding in the rain.

You have to be ride smoother, look and plan further ahead and use lower gears for greater engine braking. Of course setting the suspension up is essential for anything longer than a trip around the block IMO.

[dizzyblonde]

I really can't see anyone riding pillion for great distances on the Daytona or any recent sportbike for that matter. I'm amazed they're legal. There is absolutely noting to hang on to and the feet are so high up and cramped your circulation stops after 50miles perched up there plus you get most of the wind blast.


Thats because they design them with the scantily clad ladies in mind, that they drape over them at shows and in mags, that are so tiny you could pack em in a tailpack if you really wanted;)

[Dave20046]

Thats because they design them with the scantily clad ladies in mind, that they drape over them at shows and in mags, that are so tiny you could pack em in a tailpack if you really wanted;)
mmmmmm

[GazandKatie]

I have only just started taking Katie pillion and Im thinking of the grippy seat. When ever I brake I can fell her slide forward even though she is holding the grab rail. I think the love handles are more of a comfort/confidence thing for the pillion, Katie wants some just to feel safe that shes holding on to me.

I havent ridden pillion for years but when I did I rarely used the grab rail once I was confident that i wasnt gonna fall off evertime the rider accererated or braked

[petevtwin650]

I have only just started taking Katie pillion and Im thinking of the grippy seat.

You can buy Wundaweb or something similar for putting under rugs to stop them slipping from Wilko's or similar. Cheap way of finding out if a grippy seat will help or not.

[muffles]

You don't feel a pillion against you as much when you use love handles, you've got the strap of course but no arms, etc wrapped around you...

If you are moving around enough that this impedes you, you probably want your pillion to be doing the same, I'm not sure you want to get your knee down while your pillion is sat bolt upright on the pillion seat...

[missyburd]

You don't feel a pillion against you as much when you use love handles, you've got the strap of course but no arms, etc wrapped around you...


I would have thought love handles would be even more annoying than arms around waist if you don't like that sort of thing? Are you not perpetually tugging at the rider's waist still? Haven't used them or seen them used before but they seem a bit odd.

[philbut]

If you still want to get a pillion grab rail at the back you could try Ventura - theirs is a luggage system that un-clips when not in use, but you can specify a grab rail rather then the rack for their bags - that way it would not be vissible when she wasn't on the back, so neater than a renntec. Not sure if they have released one for the 675 yet.

[parkinmj]

hi Lylej

have you had a look at Ventura. My mate has a gsxr 1000 k5 with one of these on he had a seat pad made for the backpack part and its like sitting in an arm chair for the pillion.

here the link

http://www.ventura-bike.com/fitments.aspx?manu=Triumph

i had a quick glance and there doesn't seem to be anything for the 675 but im sure they say in one of there adverts they can make them for any bike it might be worth while dropping them an email.

all the best
MJP

damn beaten to it by philbut

[muffles]

I would have thought love handles would be even more annoying than arms around waist if you don't like that sort of thing? Are you not perpetually tugging at the rider's waist still? Haven't used them or seen them used before but they seem a bit odd.

I haven't found that, I think it's because of the way it works. If you are wrapping your arms around someone, you don't just put your hands on their waist, you properly get close and wrap your arms round. Love handles avoid that, because you can hold your arms straight and just hold the handles. The rider doesn't have the pillion getting all up close and personal ;) (although of course maybe they don't want that....but then it's not about the riding and I digress... :p).

The other thing it gives is that if you were indeed holding on by your hands, you'd be gripping the person in varying degrees, with the love handles you don't feel that because they aren't trying to grab you, they hold on tighter to the plastic handles.

I was lucky in that I borrowed a pair off a mate to try first, but to be honest they're only about £10 - it's worth a go IMO.

[Viney]

You can buy Wundaweb or something similar for putting under rugs to stop them slipping from Wilko's or similar. Cheap way of finding out if a grippy seat will help or not.Wundaweb is for hemming trousers/skirts etc.