View Full Version : am i missing something ref learners / L plates?
Dappa D
16-02-09, 11:39 AM
lately I have seen an ever increasing amount of "big" bikes on the road with L plates on...
NSR/R6/GS500 and a bandit to name 4 i saw this morning on my way to work...all with L plates on...
now I thought to ride these you have to have passed a test, and with the CBT you can ride up to a 125...
are these bikes being (can they be?) restricted to the power output of a 125 or are these people taking the pi55 and police not really knowing the difference?
or have i missed something in the change of law?
BigFootIsBlurry
16-02-09, 11:43 AM
As far as I was aware you had to be in radio contact with an instructor to ride a bigger bike.
madness
16-02-09, 12:16 PM
If they were wearing hi-vis vests then they were probably doing DAS training. Everyone wants to pass before the new test comes in, hence the increase in numbers.
Dappa D
16-02-09, 12:38 PM
On an r6?..well spose they could use their own bike, but nah defo not DAS training, on their own no high viz / instuctors or groups anywhere to be seen. guess the law hasnt changed then and these guys are taking the P*ss
jimmy__riddle
16-02-09, 12:46 PM
definately not an r125?
Dappa D
16-02-09, 12:51 PM
nope defo not a 125 any of them....
When I sat my test the instructor buggered off back to base and told me to make my own way back if I passed, which I did so that may be one possibility.
speedplay
16-02-09, 05:38 PM
Could be an instructor on a school bike.
keith_d
16-02-09, 05:47 PM
In theory, someone could put L-plates on an R6 and get insured to learn on it. Anyone care to guess how much tarmac would be needed to do a turn in the road??
Of course the best part of 100BHP might explain why the instructor was nowhere to be seen. He'll be along in 5 minutes....
Keith.
yorkie_chris
16-02-09, 06:48 PM
Yes you could, but you would have to be observed by an instructor at all times.
In theory, someone could put L-plates on an R6 and get insured to learn on it.
Keith.
1: No, can't be done, you need a qualified instructor at all times.
2: You can't get insurance as no one will insure a learner on anything other than a 125, I know as I tried to insure one on the hope of cutting out an instructor when sitting my test by only using it on my test with the examiner. Every insurance company said it was impossible.
SoulKiss
16-02-09, 09:09 PM
1: No, can't be done, you need a qualified instructor at all times.
2: You can't get insurance as no one will insure a learner on anything other than a 125, I know as I tried to insure one on the hope of cutting out an instructor when sitting my test by only using it on my test with the examiner. Every insurance company said it was impossible.
They lied - my SV was insured for 2 weeks before I got my license - and if I could have gotten someone to take it to the test centre I could have done my test on it.
keith_d
16-02-09, 09:52 PM
1. True, but there were times when I was well ahead of the instructor. Before my second test I booked some training time and kept getting radio messages asking me to stop and wait 'til the instructor with the other student caught up.
2. The school I was learning with said if I got my SV insured and fitted L-plates they were happy for me to use it. I looked at the turning circle on an SV and decided to use their ER5s instead, so I didn't try getting insurance.
The original poster stated that he'd seen several bikes with L-plates that day, which sounds like a group of students that has become split up in the traffic, but I guess we'll never know.
Keith.
1: No, can't be done, you need a qualified instructor at all times.
2: You can't get insurance as no one will insure a learner on anything other than a 125, I know as I tried to insure one on the hope of cutting out an instructor when sitting my test by only using it on my test with the examiner. Every insurance company said it was impossible.
The biker could have been on his Test ,with the examiner following in a CAGE
The biker could have been on his Test ,with the examiner following in a CAGE
Good point well made....
Dappa D
17-02-09, 11:05 AM
The original poster stated that he'd seen several bikes with L-plates that day, which sounds like a group of students that has become split up in the traffic, but I guess we'll never know.
Keith.
None, these were bikes several miles apart from eachother and all on their own all going in different directions..there is absolutley no chance these were learners, besides...Im seeing them all the time around bristol lately and have come to the conclusion that they are riding illegally....which in turn at some point will have a knock on effect on us legal riders grrrrrr.....i may well pop the visor up next time i pull up along side one at lights and ask him/her why he's wearing L plates:rolleyes:
SoulKiss
17-02-09, 11:08 AM
None, these were bikes several miles apart from eachother and all on their own all going in different directions..there is absolutley no chance these were learners, besides...Im seeing them all the time around bristol lately and have come to the conclusion that they are riding illegally....which in turn at some point will have a knock on effect on us legal riders grrrrrr.....i may well pop the visor up next time i pull up along side one at lights and ask him/her why he's wearing L plates:rolleyes:
Just check its not one of the "looks like a big bike" 125's 1st will ya :)
Dappa D
17-02-09, 11:13 AM
lol yes that would be rather embaressing!
Which one did you see?
http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/images/Yamaha/2008Y/2008_R125_6.jpg
or
http://www.vicky.in/straightfrmtheheart/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/yzf-r6-1.jpg
Dappa D
17-02-09, 11:23 AM
second pic not coming up, but ive seen lots mate around bristol, r6 just one of them, also seen a bandit600 (defo a 600), a gs500 ....
Dave20046
17-02-09, 11:47 AM
As above already said re the instructor. + The honda nsr is/does come in a 125.
Perhaps they've done it so that cagers give them a wide birth? Odd though.
JohnMcL7
17-02-09, 02:49 PM
I thought as well as the requirement for being supervised at all times over radio contact you had to be wearing hi-vis overvests although reading the gov.uk site it simply says you should be wearing this type of garment.
If I was going to ride a big bike without a suitable license I wouldn't put L plates on as that's bound to get you into trouble when a police officer spots a big bike with L plates and no instructor. Unless you're riding poorly a big bike without L-plates is less likely to get noticed.
John
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