Fluid limits on flights - HELP

[Foey]

Can anyone please tell me what the current limit is for taking fluids on planes, my travel agent was useless & the latest info i can find so far on the www is dated 2006.

Many thanks

[Viney]

100ml

the 2006 rules still apply and its only valid for carry on luggage. You can put any volume you like in your suitcase.

[Mr Speirs]

100ml and Supply your own clear bag.
Thats for carry on luggage you can put whatever you like in your suitcase in the hold.

[Foey]

Thank you members of the mighty org :notworthy:, i will suggest my travel agent joins, the useless :toss:.

[Lozzo]

They will confiscate it as well, as me and my mate found out as we were boarding an Easyjet flight in Vienna yesterday.

[Essex of Essex]

Medicines can exceed 100ml but must be accompanied by a doctors letter and be in original packaging.

Things like bottles of water can be purchased once you are through security.

[Dicky Ticker]

Things like bottles of water can be purchased once you are through security.[/quote]
And any thing you like in the duty free which makes the whole system a mockery

[Ceri JC]

And any thing you like in the duty free which makes the whole system a mockery

The whole thing is utterly meaningless in any practical sense. It's what's referred to as "Security Theatre"; as the name suggests, it's all about creating the impression of security. I recently read an interesting article from one of the leaders of the security industry (who normally hates stuff like this) who said that it was in some ways a good thing. The public are not rational and although you're still much more likely to die on the way to the airport, they got jittery post 9/11 and weren't flying as much. Security Theatre like this puts their little minds at ease and hence they're more inclined to fly, which is good for the economy, etc.

Personally, I'd prefer it if the public grew up a bit and learnt how to assess risk more accurately, so we wouldn't have this sort of farce, but I'm a realist and that's not going to happen. :D

[Essex of Essex]

And any thing you like in the duty free which makes the whole system a mockery[/quote]


Most people go through this once or twice in a year, I'm due for my second go this week tonight, I stay on the aircraft at the other end so avoiding 2 or more in a day. They are just as daft with us as they are with the passengers and each airport can add things to the basic DFT regulations; which turns the whole thing into a guessing game.

[Ol Boc]

The whole thing is utterly meaningless in any practical sense. It's what's referred to as "Security Theatre"; as the name suggests, it's all about creating the impression of security.

Suggest you read THIS (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/feb/18/liquid-bomb-plot-trial). If true, which we don't know yet, the liquids would have been brought through the security checks since, if I recall correctly, the Duty Free shop doesn't sell explosive materials.

[Ceri JC]

Suggest you read THIS (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/feb/18/liquid-bomb-plot-trial). If true, which we don't know yet, the liquids would have been brought through the security checks since, if I recall correctly, the Duty Free shop doesn't sell explosive materials.

...or you could get someone who works in the airport shop (seeing as vetting is so poor that illegal immigrants have been discovered working there: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-493081/5-000-illegal-immigrants-working-security-guards-UKs-sensitive-buildings.html) to bring it in for you to "buy" in the shop and you can then carry it onto the plane. Or you could gain control of the plane using an flat plastic/ceramic knife with cap on the blade that makes them appear rectangular and whilst not invisible to xray, look like part of the structure sewn into say, a laptop case and which don't show up on metal detectors at all (so you can walk through the metal detector wearing it on your person): http://www.iasa.com.au/folders/RoboLander_files/plasticknives.htm.
And all this overlooks the fact that a competent martial artist or boxer can subdue far more people far more quickly than some scrawny kid with a knife. Then there's the fact that there are lots of other things, other than liquids that explode and that you can easily (and legally!) get onto planes:
http://wildbee.org/2008/12/09/carrying-gunpowder-through-airport-security/

...and a whole host of other things which the bad guys can try. The problem with our current approach is we react to individual means of achieving the same goal: Someone carries out shoebombing, so we check shoes, someone does it through carrying a knife, so we ban knives. All these restrictions are brought in after the fact and don't actually prevent any terrorist attacks. (Even if it's found to be true) those guys in the stories you linked to were caught before they reached the security checkpoint; the fluid check wasn't where they got rumbled, so it doesn't demostrate the fluid checkpoint as making sense/having prevented anything.

Instead we should be employing highly trained, very bright people who understand all facets of security to watch for these sort of attacks in aiports, however they might be carried out, even if it's a new "original" attack that hasn't been done before. That costs money though and doesn't create any real increase in the perception of security, even if it'd make things vastly more secure in reality. You shouldn't even focus on airports as then the terrorists will just target public transport instead and all the cost you've spent, just moves the problem elsewhere.

Still, it's much cheaper to get a rentocop and make people do some security charades, because lets face it, you aren't actually that bothered about preventing terrorist attacks because they are statistically so soooooooo insignificant a threat, you just need to convince people it's safe to fly.

I could talk about this all day. :D