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Is it illegal to go around a couple of road work cones, laydown by random contractors digging holes? :confused:
Is there a fine for such things :rolleyes:
Ceri JC
19-02-09, 10:23 AM
I don't know the legality, but if it's the only way of filtering past near-stationary traffic, no one is working there and the surface is clean, I'll happily do it. I was working up in Scotland when they were doing a lot of work on the Forth bridge and I went through a coned area for almost a mile every day without consequence.
Dicky Ticker
19-02-09, 10:26 AM
NO NO NO The easiest way to get points and a fine----------------believe me
Mr Speirs
19-02-09, 10:30 AM
Its only illegal if you get caught :)
Dicky Ticker
19-02-09, 10:32 AM
Yes ,much like speeding,dangerous driving.:)
Traffic cones are put down for safety, for the workers and the public, so nevermind the legalities for now just what is the point in putting them out if people are going to go around them?
NO NO NO The easiest way to get points and a fine----------------believe me
it was a clear and clean road that is coned off to directing 2 lanes into 1 at a set of junction traffic lights, they are digging after the junction. Stationary traffic for 50m, so I nipped around a cone to get pass a wide load :rolleyes:
points and fine :shock: tell me how much!
Its only illegal if you get caught :)
+1. I've done it before, and if I saw the need/benefit of doing it again, I'd do it again.
Probably highly illegal, but that doesn't change my previous statement.
Dicky Ticker
19-02-09, 11:22 AM
£60+3
Paul the 6th
19-02-09, 11:22 AM
it was a clear and clean road that is coned off to directing 2 lanes into 1 at a set of junction traffic lights, they are digging after the junction. Stationary traffic for 50m, so I nipped around a cone to get pass a wide load :rolleyes:
points and fine :shock: tell me how much!
first bid: 120 quid and 9 points?
I once drove down "busses and taxi's only" by mistake - there was a special constable waiting for people like me... cue 30 quid fine :rolleyes: except he spent 10 mins searching through his offence code list, trying to find the correct code the offence. He eventually gave up and said "I'll stick it down as "Intentionally disobeying a directional arrow cos it's the same £30 fine and no points"... so I said "but that sounds like i've driven the wrong way down a one way street or gone around a pedestrian island with one of those little arrows on it?"
guess its down to the copper?
Ceri JC
19-02-09, 11:27 AM
NO NO NO The easiest way to get points and a fine----------------believe me
No, going out and driving through several speed cameras 16mph+ over the posted limited is by far and away the easiest way to get points. I'd like to say giving the finger to a traffic cop was even more effective, but you'd struggle to find one on most rides.
:D
Paul the 6th
19-02-09, 11:28 AM
No, going out and driving through several speed cameras 16mph+ over the posted limited is by far and away the easiest way to get points. I'd like to say giving the finger to a traffic cop was even more effective, but you'd struggle to find one on most rides.
:D
LOL
Mr Speirs
19-02-09, 01:58 PM
No, going out and driving through several speed cameras 16mph+ over the posted limited is by far and away the easiest way to get points. I'd like to say giving the finger to a traffic cop was even more effective, but you'd struggle to find one on most rides.
:D
I don't think it's illegal to give a cop the finger :)
Just make sure your bike is fully legal and you are riding safetly when you do it :)
On a side note back to traffic cones. I was driving back from London on the M1 at 1 in the morning, the fecking 'workers' had closed the 5 lane Motorway down to 1 causing a half hour delay. 3 miles of single lane traffic and not one worker did those cones protect!! They weren't even on the bloody Motorway there was no-one. If I was on my bike I would have ignored those cones.
Dave20046
19-02-09, 02:02 PM
I don't think it's illegal to give a cop the finger :)
Just make sure your bike is fully legal and you are riding safetly when you do it :)
On a side note back to traffic cones. I was driving back from London on the M1 at 1 in the morning, the fecking 'workers' had closed the 5 lane Motorway down to 1 causing a half hour delay. 3 miles of single lane traffic and not one worker did those cones protect!! They weren't even on the bloody Motorway there was no-one. If I was on my bike I would have ignored those cones.
Cameras would have picked you up sharpish though wouldn't they?
Ceri JC
19-02-09, 03:13 PM
I don't think it's illegal to give a cop the finger :)
Just make sure your bike is fully legal and you are riding safetly when you do it :)
On a side note back to traffic cones. I was driving back from London on the M1 at 1 in the morning, the fecking 'workers' had closed the 5 lane Motorway down to 1 causing a half hour delay. 3 miles of single lane traffic and not one worker did those cones protect!! They weren't even on the bloody Motorway there was no-one. If I was on my bike I would have ignored those cones.
I imagine they'd have a case for DWDC for compromising your control of the vehicle by unneccesarily taking your hand off the bars, rather than the actual "finger" itself. :D
Mr Speirs
19-02-09, 03:23 PM
I imagine they'd have a case for DWDC for compromising your control of the vehicle by unneccesarily taking your hand off the bars, rather than the actual "finger" itself. :D
I'd get my pillion to do it in that case :)
Ceri JC
19-02-09, 03:32 PM
I'd get my pillion to do it in that case :)
Yes; I believe they can't do you for this. I say this because a friend got pulled because his passenger swore at them, but all they could do was give him a ticking off. :D
ArtyLady
19-02-09, 03:56 PM
How do you know you got spotted?
Traffic cones are put down for safety, for the workers and the public, so nevermind the legalities for now just what is the point in putting them out if people are going to go around them?
Because we're webels who decide which laws apply to motorcycles and which ones don't. Much the same as double white lines in the middle of the road are deemed by me to be discretionary.
I don't think it's illegal to give a cop the finger :)
You can quite legally tell any copper to "feck off" now without fear of prosecution, because a court has deemed the word 'feck' to be perfectly acceptable and non-insultive or abusive language
BBadger
19-02-09, 05:36 PM
Just as you come off the A3 ( claygate junction ) theres that exact scene... i dip in and out of the cones as you get some drivers who pull up right against them and no one seemed to be bothered.
But with plod around, who aint to hard to spot in a line of traffic, you might as well sit itll only take a few mins.
I would pay more attention to going the directed way around the blue & white arrow at the start of a line of cones than going either side of any particular cones
What about using the cones as an on-going chicane? ;)
Call the cones hotline for advice. 0845 504030:mrgreen:
Bluepete
19-02-09, 09:18 PM
Because we're webels who decide which laws apply to motorcycles and which ones don't. Much the same as double white lines in the middle of the road are deemed by me to be discretionary.
He's not wrong! I did think that the cones were put there for me to practice slalom around! Apparently not eh?
ethariel
19-02-09, 09:31 PM
I would pay more attention to going the directed way around the blue & white arrow at the start of a line of cones than going either side of any particular cones
+1
skeetly
19-02-09, 09:42 PM
highway code says its wrong so I guess you can get nicked....
highway code says its wrong so I guess you can get nicked....
Highway code is exactly that: a code of conduct. You don't necessarily get nicked for breaking the "rules" in it.
skeetly
19-02-09, 11:04 PM
I think you must be right here.
The road cones bit does not have the words MUST NOT before it.
I wonder what you get nicked for?
I guess if you cause hapless road workers to scurry from your path its pretty obvious....
Yes, Highway Code is guidelines but most of it is based on current law. Have a look through the multitude of road and traffic law and legislation and then tell me its not illegal.
**Hint, start with the Road Traffic Act and the Road Traffic Regulations Act**
Ceri JC
20-02-09, 09:57 AM
Yes, Highway Code is guidelines but most of it is based on current law. Have a look through the multitude of road and traffic law and legislation and then tell me its not illegal.
**Hint, start with the Road Traffic Act and the Road Traffic Regulations Act**
I believe the distinction is that things the highway code says you "Must" or "Must Not" do are legal requirements and the rest is advisory/suggested (although being in breach of them can certainly apportion more blame to you in an accident/exacerbate something else you're doing which is an offence).
I believe the distinction is that things the highway code says you "Must" or "Must Not" do are legal requirements and the rest is advisory/suggested (although being in breach of them can certainly apportion more blame to you in an accident/exacerbate something else you're doing which is an offence).
True, but traffic cones are used for various purposes and it is ok to cross some, therefore to put an all encompassing MUST NOT would be incorrect. In this situation mentioned there is a road/lane closure which is legally applied for to the relevant controlling county council, as such it is now closed to the public/prohibited/how ever you want to call it.
Grant66
20-02-09, 01:05 PM
Blocking a public highway with cones must be applied for, think its called a tempory traffic order. If the contractor has not applied for and received approval for closing off a section of public highway then you can use that section of road just like any other.
If the coned section has been granted approval then it is no longer considered to be a public highway, the laws governing riding your bike anywhere that is not a public highway (grass verge etc) also apply to the coned off area.
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