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21-02-09, 01:59 PM
Folks,

I'm trying to find a way of sending a newsletter out for my site. Now I've got it done in html but can anyone tell me how to email it out so that people can see it, click on links etc?

Thanks

Baph
21-02-09, 02:03 PM
Moses, the following link may be of us to you. This is how I do it (but it's a walk through diagram).

http://www.amenco.com/golivein24/HTMLemail/index.html

Se the section "Sending the email" about half way down. If you need clarification on things it states, shout. :)

SoulKiss
21-02-09, 02:20 PM
Folks,

I'm trying to find a way of sending a newsletter out for my site. Now I've got it done in html but can anyone tell me how to email it out so that people can see it, click on links etc?

Thanks

HTML is a standard for web pages.

Text is a format for mail

Do not confuse the two.

Most of the people I know (people who have a clue about these things generally) either have HTML switched off in their mail client - which would make your newsletter unreadable - if visible at all, or even just dump it straight to a junk mail folder.

If you really cant settle for text with a link to a webpage then at least make sure that you put a plain-text section as a header that provides a link to a webpage with the same content as your newsletter.

Baph
21-02-09, 02:30 PM
Most of the people I know (people who have a clue about these things generally) either have HTML switched off in their mail client - which would make your newsletter unreadable - if visible at all, or even just dump it straight to a junk mail folder.

I don't fit into that bracket. :)

Though I do have to hit a button to not only enable images, but also scripting on the email (same button applies both).

Jabba
21-02-09, 02:37 PM
Turn it into a .pdf file and email it as an attachment to a text-format email :thumbsup:

That way is won't matter whether the recipient can get HTML emails or not, plus the .pdf file can retain all the formatting, links, etc and the recipient can print it if desired.

600+
21-02-09, 02:40 PM
Moses, the following link may be of us to you. This is how I do it (but it's a walk through diagram).

http://www.amenco.com/golivein24/HTMLemail/index.html

Se the section "Sending the email" about half way down. If you need clarification on things it states, shout. :)

Thanks mate! Any ideas how to do it in Microsoft Outlook 2007? :D

Can't find anything for Stationary under File > ....

SoulKiss
21-02-09, 04:24 PM
Turn it into a .pdf file and email it as an attachment to a text-format email :thumbsup:

That way is won't matter whether the recipient can get HTML emails or not, plus the .pdf file can retain all the formatting, links, etc and the recipient can print it if desired.

Email is also not a File Transfer Protocol (there is one and surprisingly its called FTP - spot the coincidence)

As said best plan is to mail out a link to a webpage.

Baph
21-02-09, 04:37 PM
Thanks mate! Any ideas how to do it in Microsoft Outlook 2007? :D

Can't find anything for Stationary under File > ....

Outlook 2007 is picky.

Click Start > Run then type (or copy/paste) the following:
%USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Microsoft\Stationery

Then hit OK. That's the directory you want to save your HTML newsletter.

Once that's done, when you're in the Mail tab of Outlook, click the arrow next to the "New" button (top left corner) then go to "New mail using Stationary" then "More Stationary."

Heypresto, your HTML newsletter is listed there. :)

SK, I take it you have something against attachments? FTP isn't always possible, as you well know. :p

600+
21-02-09, 05:15 PM
cheers Baph! That worked......now if only Outlook didn't mess up the formating :(

Baph
21-02-09, 05:17 PM
Open the HTML document in MSWord, fix the formatting, and save as HTML again.

Then import into Outlook. Heypresto. :)

600+
21-02-09, 05:44 PM
yeah that won't be easy to do......for me at least :) I'll pass it back to the guy that put it together and hope he'll sort it

Baph
21-02-09, 06:16 PM
yeah that won't be easy to do......for me at least :) I'll pass it back to the guy that put it together and hope he'll sort it

When you pass it back, just mention that you can't send it out without the formatting looking wrong, and ask if he has any advice.

I'm guessing it uses CSS, and the different rendering engines handle CSS differently. He may know which engine (and therefore which application) would be better to use for the template he's made.

However, if you're insistent on using Outlook 07, then he has to design the template for that, you're the client after all.

600+
21-02-09, 07:02 PM
and he is a mate doing it for free :D

I've been looking on the net to find maybe a web based way of doing it but been unsuccessful up to now :(

MavUK
21-02-09, 08:25 PM
We are currently busy writing an app to generate our news letters in the office (though we use a purchased .Net component to send the original mail) (http://www.aspnetemail.com/).

The developer who has done it found a lot of HTML email best practices sites for refrence and has built ours accordingly.

The most important thing is, contrary to building a page where you should use divs and spans with CSS for layout, to use tables.

The other thing to mention, again contrary to building a web page, is to use inline styles. If you *are* going to make style classes ensure that they are located outside the header tag - many mail clients (online and real apps) strip the header sections out for display purposes. Do not use linked css and use it sparingly - outlook 2007 strips *a lot* out so you won't get the display you think you are going to get.

If possible embed images - this way people still see you mail how you intended and not with lots of red crosses.

When I get into the office on Monday I'll ask the dev for the links to the best practices and post them up.

We send out up to 40K news letters and spend a lot of time making sure they are not picked up by spam filters (we only send to people who have done a double opt-in we do not just bomb mail addresses). HTML email is not a problem for this - how the HTML is built can make a difference as does the 'from' address and how it's sent. For the last I can't comment as we use an external company to actually do the mailing.

Good luck - this can be tricky, but is worth it in the end.

600+
22-02-09, 09:58 AM
cheers MavUK - that would be useful as well.

timwilky
22-02-09, 12:17 PM
HTML in email is the bain of my life. Why oh why must people do it?

It doesn't format properly in my companies mail client. My personal email is sent as text only.

I even received an email today that contained a Word document, no covering text etc. I had to open a potential can of worms to find out what the lease company for my car had to say.

MavUK
22-02-09, 02:11 PM
HTML in email is the bain of my life. Why oh why must people do it?

It doesn't format properly in my companies mail client. My personal email is sent as text only.

I even received an email today that contained a Word document, no covering text etc. I had to open a potential can of worms to find out what the lease company for my car had to say.

Quick answer... Because the marketing department see it and goes wow... :)

can I ask what client your company uses - if it's more picky than Outlook 2007 it's something I'd like to pick up at work for our mails...

timwilky
22-02-09, 05:03 PM
We use Lotus Notes for mail/groupware apps at work


At home I use the linux mail command in a bash shell

MavUK
22-02-09, 05:18 PM
We use Lotus Notes for mail/groupware apps at work


At home I use the linux mail command in a bash shell

You know since asking for the info I've been thinking 'I bet it's notes...'

Oh well, I guess this is one that we won't be looking into then :)

Thanks for the info...

MavUK
23-02-09, 07:27 AM
Best practice:
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/code-html-email-newsletters/ (http://www.sitepoint.com/article/code-html-email-newsletters/)

En gratis goede html templates (trans: free, good HTML templates):
http://www.campaignmonitor.com/templates/ (http://www.campaignmonitor.com/templates/)
Of
http://www.mailchimp.com/resources/html_email_templates/ (http://www.mailchimp.com/resources/html_email_templates/)


Just got these links from the dev. Good luck!

And another one...


http://spamcheck.sitesell.com/ (http://spamcheck.sitesell.com/)


You can use the one above to check how 'spammy' you mail is.

600+
23-02-09, 02:41 PM
nice one :) I'll start reading

MavUK
23-02-09, 07:12 PM
nice one :) I'll start reading
Good luck! And please PM me to let me know how you get on... (or of course post a reply to this thread :)

600+
23-02-09, 07:30 PM
just did the test and only got a score of 1 if I send it from my hotmail and 2 if I send it from my shop email :D

anything below 4.5 is excellent

excellent!! now I only need to send it out LOL