SV written off - what next?

[Nobbylad]

So my K8 was written off last week and I'm in the market for a new bike.

I am hoping that I'll get some money on top of the value of the bike (which will clear the finance) and was dreaming about a Daytona 675...until I test rode it.

It is a great bike, very quick, very torquey, engine is easy around town and on the M-way, the only thing that bothered me was the riding position. Yes it's a supersport bike so you'd expect to be cramped over, but I didn't appreciate how much I felt like I was leaning right over the front wheel!

I enjoyed the test ride, but am not sure I could live with it doing the daily commute to Manchester everyday and I'm less sure that the wife would be happy perched up on the pillion 'pad'.

So I'm wracking my brain trying to think of a bike I'd really like, at a good price that is a balance between comfort and sporty style.....am I going to end up with another SV? :confused:

Don't get me wrong, I loved that bike, but found I was dreaming of different mods, uprating the suspension etc etc, almost trying to get it to be something it wasn't....it's a pity they don't do a premium version that has a decent can, better suspension and other little extras.

Any recommendations on other stuff to look at?

Cheers!

[injury_ian]

Gladius? ;)

I would have suggeted the street triple, but thats useless for pillions too....

[fizzwheel]

Any recommendations on other stuff to look at?


*watches as everybody comes along and recommends the bike they currently own*

:D

You will get used to the being leant over the front position of a super sports bike, but it does take a little time.

Some idea of how much you want to spend might be an idea. Also what about buying a cheap hack for the commute and then getting the 675 as a toy.

One can never have to many bikes :cool:

[Baph]

Something like a ZX9 or 10? A little more power than the SV, and still pretty comfy IMO (for both rider & pillion).

EDIT: Fizz, Ha! I don't own a ZX. :D

[fizzwheel]

EDIT: Fizz, Ha! I don't own a ZX. :D

You are the exception that proves the rule. No doubt TheGr33k will be along in a minute to prove my theory ;)

[Nobbylad]

Sorry, should've mentioned, I prefer faired bikes as most of my miles are M-way.

I am restricted to 1 bike :(

The Daytona was just over £5.5k (08 bike, not yet registered)

[muffles]

I recommend a K8 750 or a CBR600F2 (2002 not F2 gen)!

:p




Actually, I do recommend the CBR. I think it's a bit like a less powerful ZX-9R.

[Nobbylad]

I like the CBR, but I can't get the Daytona out of my head! :rolleyes:

[fizzwheel]

I like the CBR, but I can't get the Daytona out of my head! :rolleyes:

You wont till you own one, bikes are like that. What else do you like the look or the thought of owning ?

[injury_ian]

motorway munchers.... Blackbird? VFR? Sprint ST?

[petevtwin650]

So do you fancy a four, triple or twin?

Gixxer 750, Street Triple, Falco or Sv thou ?

[zsv650]

try it's big brother out the 955i.

[Nobbylad]

You wont till you own one, bikes are like that. What else do you like the look or the thought of owning ?

That's part of my dilemma fizz....I like the look of pure sports like the Gixxer and R6, but know that they're not as practical as the SV for the type of riding I do (m-way and city centre traffic). I just think if I get another SV, I'll always be yearning for something else, although I guess that would happen with any bike as you say.

motorway munchers.... Blackbird? VFR? Sprint ST?

I did think about the VFR800 and the Sprint, but then they do strike me as being bigger, heavier bikes (and more expensive).

So do you fancy a four, triple or twin?

Gixxer 750, Street Triple, Falco or Sv thou ?

Well I really liked the twin on the SV and don't really want an IL4. I thought the triple would be a good compromise between the two and I was impressed with the Daytona, lots of pulling power low down in every gear and you don't have to scream the nuts off it to make it go very quick. I'd probably go for the Street Triple if it was faired, or the Daytona if it had a more upright riding position...maybe the Daytona with different bars would be a compromise (assuming that's do-able?).

[fizzwheel]

That's part of my dilemma fizz....I like the look of pure sports like the Gixxer and R6, but know that they're not as practical as the SV for the type of riding

Actually I think my GSXR is just as practical as my SV was, in fact its better on long journeys because its more comfortable, also ridden sensibly i.e below 7000rpm its also less tiring to ride along way than my SV was to.

I rode to Scotland and Back for the Glencoe Massacre last year, with luggage....


Well I really liked the twin on the SV and don't really want an IL4.

Why dont you want an IL4, have you test ridden one, have you tried one ? If you dont know what you want, how can you right off loads of bikes by simply dismissing them due to the engine configuration.


I thought the triple would be a good compromise between the two and I was impressed with the Daytona, lots of pulling power low down in every gear and you don't have to scream the nuts off it to make it go very quick.

I get all of that on my IL4, you just have to get a bigger motor. If you go for 750 or a Litre IL4 you'll have plenty of not more low down grunt than the 675 did you test rode.

[the_lone_wolf]

Sorry, should've mentioned, I prefer faired bikes as most of my miles are M-way.

i can't imagine why anyone would buy a daytona to do motorway miles:confused:

dunno how all you are but i'm 5'9 and the screen on the 675 directs air straight into my neck, couple that with zero space for small stuff under the seat and a luggage unfriendly exhaust and it's not what i'd use to commute, the suzuki sportsbikes always seem to come top in the tests when it comes to easy going riding positions, pillion seating and luggage options so a GSXR might be a better bet...

if you like the triple engine then i'd say get a sprint or if you're feeling adventurous have a look at the tiger, perhaps even the KTM adventure if you're willing to look at different options, don't dismiss it because it's an "off road" bike, with the correct pilot on it it'll run rings around supermotos on the track or the back roads

but tbh, it sounds like you need another SV:mrgreen:

[Lozzo]

*watches as everybody comes along and recommends the bike they currently own*



I don't think I'd better suggest a 1981 Yamaha SR250 with MX bars and a flattened seat, even if it has got a nice paintjob

[Nobbylad]

Actually I think my GSXR is just as practical as my SV was, in fact its better on long journeys because its more comfortable, also ridden sensibly i.e below 7000rpm its also less tiring to ride along way than my SV was to.

I rode to Scotland and Back for the Glencoe Massacre last year, with luggage....



Why dont you want an IL4, have you test ridden one, have you tried one ? If you dont know what you want, how can you right off loads of bikes by simply dismissing them due to the engine configuration.



I get all of that on my IL4, you just have to get a bigger motor. If you go for 750 or a Litre IL4 you'll have plenty of not more low down grunt than the 675 did you test rode.

I'll see if I can test ride a GXR, presumably it's a higher insurance group than the Daytona though?

I rode my mates Z750 and although it felt better on the corners than the SV and obviously had loads more power, it just didn't feel as fun as the SV and the power certainly didn't seem to come on until higher revs, at which point I was struggling to hang on!

The Daytona felt stronger around town, with lower revs, even if you were in a higher gear.


i can't imagine why anyone would buy a daytona to do motorway miles:confused:

dunno how all you are but i'm 5'9 and the screen on the 675 directs air straight into my neck, couple that with zero space for small stuff under the seat and a luggage unfriendly exhaust and it's not what i'd use to commute, the suzuki sportsbikes always seem to come top in the tests when it comes to easy going riding positions, pillion seating and luggage options so a GSXR might be a better bet...

if you like the triple engine then i'd say get a sprint or if you're feeling adventurous have a look at the tiger, perhaps even the KTM adventure if you're willing to look at different options, don't dismiss it because it's an "off road" bike, with the correct pilot on it it'll run rings around supermotos on the track or the back roads

but tbh, it sounds like you need another SV:mrgreen:

To be honest, the main reason for wanting the Daytona is that it looks ace, gets great write ups, was fun to ride (even though the riding position was way more aggressive I'm sure I'd get used to it) and it's a real bargain at £5.5 for an 09 plated 08 bike. The dealer where I got my SV from has a K7 GSXR600 for £6.2k and the K9 SV is £4,900, so I was thinking bike for buck the Daytona is a good deal.

[Luckypants]

I did think about the VFR800 and the Sprint, but then they do strike me as being bigger, heavier bikes (and more expensive).

PM me if you want to know about the VFR. :cool:

[SoulKiss]

PM me if you want to know about the VFR. :cool:

Or me if you want the truth :grin:

[fizzwheel]

I'll see if I can test ride a GXR, presumably it's a higher insurance group than the Daytona though?

If your talking about the 750 IIRC its group 17, so yes I suspect it'll be a higher insurance group.

I also think you should try a 600 as well. I honestly think you'll be in for a plesant surprise. I've ridden a K6 600 and it wasnt the rev hungry monster that the bike magazines would have you beleive...

[carty]

....it's a pity they don't do a premium version that has a decent can, better suspension and other little extras.

They do mate....it's called a GSXR. :D

[the_lone_wolf]

If your talking about the 750 IIRC its group 17, so yes I suspect it'll be a higher insurance group.

Daytona is NU15, but for some reason when i was looking at bikes i got identical quotes for a 2008 Daytona and a K6/K7 GSXR750

[carty]

The dealer where I got my SV from has a K7 GSXR600 for £6.2k and the K9 SV is £4,900, so I was thinking bike for buck the Daytona is a good deal.

Go to another dealer mate - on Autotrader you can see K8 GSXR's for £6.2k. You should be able to get a K7 for a fair bit cheaper than that. George White's are doing the 08 Kwak ZX-6R for £5500, might be worth a test ride?

Or £1 down and 42 months interest-free on a K8 GSXR-1000? :smt041

There's definitely deals to be had at the mo

[kwak zzr]

chells in stafford offered me a new 600 k8 for 6200.

[Learningcurve]

Last years Zx6R, brand new on an '09' plate from kawasaki direct in Watford.

£5999 on the road, with three years interest free credit. Choice of colours too!

I have bought four bikes from them now. Great place to deal with.

[muffles]

a real bargain at £5.5 for an 09 plated 08 bike. The dealer where I got my SV from has a K7 GSXR600 for £6.2k and the K9 SV is £4,900, so I was thinking bike for buck the Daytona is a good deal.

From what I've seen that is a real bargain for the 675 and the complete opposite for the GSX-R and SV. Somewhere out there, someone else is posting about a bargain 09-plate K8 GSX-R 600 up for £5k vs a 675 up for £7k...

[sam_p2000]

i would have said a VFR as they are a little better designed with pillions and comfort in mind. I cant vouch for the newer ones but my mate's old zx6-r (2001) was ver comfortable for both and he even took it touring for a week in south of france through the mountains with nothing but praise for it.

[Nobbylad]

From what I've seen that is a real bargain for the 675 and the complete opposite for the GSX-R and SV. Somewhere out there, someone else is posting about a bargain 09-plate K8 GSX-R 600 up for £5k vs a 675 up for £7k...

Can you remember where that was?

[yorkie_chris]

Daytona 955i. The riding position is way less aggressive than the 675. Also not too high on the insurance.

[Richie]

So do you fancy a four, triple or twin?

Gixxer 750, Street Triple, Falco or Sv thou ?


There Pete said it..... I'm telling Fizz of you... haha...

[Jackie_Black]

I got a brand new ZX6r form george whites for 5.5k with extras on 0% and its more comfortable than the SV was, smoother and absolutely flies. IL4's are not the gutless lumps the magazines describe either. It seems as torquey as the SV low down and goes crazy over 10k.

[Nobbylad]

Just spoken to them, they've only got the blue ones left.

[carty]

Can you remember where that was?

I get the impression Muffles was using that as an example - that there are vastly differing prices in dealerships so decide what bike you want first, then ring round for the best offers.

[daveb]

Don't forget fuel economy - I don't know any middleweight sports or sports tourer that comes close the the SV's 55-65mpg. Most of the sports 600 will be lucky to get in the upper 30s tbh. Maybe that's an issue to you, maybe not but compared to the cost of fuel on my last car my SV pretty much pays for itself on the savings...

[Ruthja2801]

Something like a ZX9 or 10? A little more power than the SV, and still pretty comfy IMO (for both rider & pillion).

EDIT: Fizz, Ha! I don't own a ZX. :D

Sorry gonna disagree here the ZX10 is bloody uncomfatable for a pillion, feel like ya constantly falling on the rider and a killer on ya back!

[yorkie_chris]

Are you on about a ZX10 or a ZX10R though. The ZX10's from the 90s are really comfy.

[fizzwheel]

Don't forget fuel economy - I don't know any middleweight sports or sports tourer that comes close the the SV's 55-65mpg. Most of the sports 600 will be lucky to get in the upper 30s tbh.

I get the same amount of miles out of my GSXR per tank as I did my SV..

In fact on alonger run, i.e motorway milleage the GSXR is better on fuel than the SV is.

[Alpinestarhero]

Something like a ZX9 or 10? A little more power than the SV, and still pretty comfy IMO (for both rider & pillion).

EDIT: Fizz, Ha! I don't own a ZX. :D

ZX9r excellent bikes. Could also look at the last of the "900" cc fireblades

[muffles]

I get the impression Muffles was using that as an example - that there are vastly differing prices in dealerships so decide what bike you want first, then ring round for the best offers.


:lol: Yes, yes I was...I was just saying that the prices you had got were particularly biased towards teh 675...and that you can get prices swinging the other way too...

[kwak zzr]

a bargain 09-plate K8 GSX-R 600 up for £5k

did u dream that muffles

[Jackie_Black]

Just spoken to them, they've only got the blue ones left.

I got a blue one. Everyone has green ones and it's virtually impossible to see black bikes. The blue is very nice and i'm glad I chose it.

Just get one they're a bargain.

[Lozzo]

chells in stafford offered me a new 600 k8 for 6200.

My daughter paid about the same for her 600 K8

[tigersaw]

Best 2 uppy bikes I've had are a 97 bandit 1200 (but too heavy for me) or a 99 Honda Hornet

[Nobbylad]

I got a blue one. Everyone has green ones and it's virtually impossible to see black bikes. The blue is very nice and i'm glad I chose it.

Just get one they're a bargain.

Lol...I like your style!

I have found an 08Gixxer6, new for £5995...decisions decisions.

I'm gonna have to wait to see what happens with my payout before I go any further though.

[Jackie_Black]

George whites will also give you a really annoying but expensive alarm and an R&G tail tidy with a barely visible (surely illegal) rear light fitted too. Ooh and front and back paddock stands and a double bubble.

[Stu]

Don't forget fuel economy - I don't know any middleweight sports or sports tourer that comes close the the SV's 55-65mpg. Most of the sports 600 will be lucky to get in the upper 30s tbh. Maybe that's an issue to you, maybe not but compared to the cost of fuel on my last car my SV pretty much pays for itself on the savings...
I've never had that from my SV. I consitently got 45 mpg.
I pretty much consistently get 55 mpg from my ZX6R, but it is an old one with carbs I don't think the newer ones get such good economy.

[kwak zzr]

My daughter paid about the same for her 600 K8

or 7200 for the 750

[muffles]

did u dream that muffles

Haha...it wasn't a real life example! But I would be interested in where you can get a brand spanker of a 675 for £5.5k? That's Kwak (no not you) money! :p

Someone just mentioned a K8 600 for a smidgen under £6k...that's pretty cheap. I wouldn't expect you could get much below that!

[ThEGr33k]

Falco :p

[Nobbylad]

Haha...it wasn't a real life example! But I would be interested in where you can get a brand spanker of a 675 for £5.5k? That's Kwak (no not you) money! :p

Someone just mentioned a K8 600 for a smidgen under £6k...that's pretty cheap. I wouldn't expect you could get much below that!

Test rode it on Saturday, they have a couple of 08 bikes (un-registered that they are doing for £5795.

I saw the GSXR600 for £5995 today

[the_lone_wolf]

Test rode it on Saturday, they have a couple of 08 bikes (un-registered that they are doing for £5795.

Fowlers in Bristol are advertising new 08 Daytonas for £5699 OTR

http://www.fowlers.co.uk/bikes/triumph/sports.html

However, unless they got new stock since the week before last they haven't actually got any, i put my desposit down in the morning, phoned back that afternoon to confirm details and they'd sold all three bikes they had that afternoon;)

[Rich]

£6995 For an orange/black GSXR750 K8

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-UNREGISTERED-SUZUKI-GSXR750K8-BLK-ORANGE-ONLY-6995_W0QQitemZ170305211544QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Mo torcycles?hash=item170305211544&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A7%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

White Hayabusa K8 for £7895

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-UNREGISTERED-SUZUKI-HAYABUSA-ONLY-7895-FREE-ALARM_W0QQitemZ170305210132QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_M otorcycles?hash=item170305210132&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A7%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

I do know that V&J superbikes near me are selling their GSXR600 K8's for £5995, some cracking deals.. I don't know if you get the BIKE magazine but their review of the GSXR600 K8 vs all the other 600's including 675 puts it as the best road bike.

[Nobbylad]

I'm leaning towards a test ride on a Gixxer 6, seems a lot of places have good deals, like these for £5995 http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/bikes_popup.jsp?did=22668&pageid=4&originalid=&gid=nogroup&tid=2&start=1&distance=0&adcategory=bikes&channel=DEALERPAGE&id=200907328702584

[Rich]

I'm leaning towards a test ride on a Gixxer 6, seems a lot of places have good deals, like these for £5995 http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/bikes_popup.jsp?did=22668&pageid=4&originalid=&gid=nogroup&tid=2&start=1&distance=0&adcategory=bikes&channel=DEALERPAGE&id=200907328702584

Personally i think thats a great idea, but then i would :rolleyes:. You'll soon see for yourself that it's not a bad bike.. And don't be scared to redline the bugger!!! Just don't look down at the speedo!!! :smt025

[Nobbylad]

I'm looking at an 07 model, 2000 miles, £4995 which seems like a good deal, just need to a) test ride one and b) get paid out on my SV :)

[the_lone_wolf]

I'm looking at an 07 model, 2000 miles, £4995 which seems like a good deal, just need to a) test ride one and b) get paid out on my SV :)

the 2007 bikes are better looking than the 08s without that daft headlamp IMO (sorry rich, but you know it's true;))

[Nobbylad]

Plus at that price it's the same as a K9 SV...so no brainer really. Just hope I like it more than the Daytona.

[Rich]

the 2007 bikes are better looking than the 08s without that daft headlamp IMO (sorry rich, but you know it's true;))

Everyone to their own, i personally like both models but went with the K8 because of the K6/7's rep, same bike basically, i like the white/grey colour scheme and love the headlight. I like the D675 and would have test ridden one but i can't :(.. So i went with it purely on reviews and thought out of all the 600's it would be the one i'd most likely to get on with. It's a true all rounder..

[kwak zzr]

Everyone to their own, i personally like both models but went with the K8 because of the K6/7's rep

what rep?

[muffles]

the 2007 bikes are better looking than the 08s without that daft headlamp IMO (sorry rich, but you know it's true;))

Having owned both a K7 and K8 I can say I honestly prefer the K8 headlight ;)

The K7 is a bit too cyclopsy for me, same with a lot of other models cos of that. Doesn't put me off, but when there's another option (i.e. K8)....

what rep?

I think he means good rep - cos K8 was very very similar just looked different.

[Rich]

Yeh i meant the good reputation of the k6/7 kwak!!

[kwak zzr]

oh thought there was some bad i had'nt heard of :)

[zsv650]

Fowlers in Bristol are advertising new 08 Daytonas for £5699 OTR

http://www.fowlers.co.uk/bikes/triumph/sports.html

However, unless they got new stock since the week before last they haven't actually got any, i put my desposit down in the morning, phoned back that afternoon to confirm details and they'd sold all three bikes they had that afternoon;)
thats really good value i'd love a daytona that's just a tad more than budget bike money :D

[the_lone_wolf]

thats really good value

that's probably why they sold three of them in 5 hours:eek:

[zsv650]

i'm not at all surprised no point buying a second hand one now as they go for not much off that anyway.

[the_lone_wolf]

i'm not at all surprised no point buying a second hand one as they go for not much off that anyway.
it's £100 more than my local trumpet dealer was asking for a 2006 model with 5k miles on it, would have preferred to buy local but they couldn't guarantee me a 2008 bike, let alone one in black or red which were my preferred colours:(

[Stu]

Having owned both a K7 and K8 I can say I honestly prefer the K8 headlight ;)

.
I liked it too until it was pointed out to me that it looked like a sanitary towel with wings :???:

[muffles]

I liked it too until it was pointed out to me that it looked like a sanitary towel with wings :???:

Lol WHAT?!? I can't quite see it myself, haha, maybe I need some beer goggles :p

[Nobbylad]

I'm looking at an 07 model, 2000 miles, £4995 which seems like a good deal, just need to a) test ride one and b) get paid out on my SV :)

I'm thinking this looks like a good deal, there is one more local to me for the same price but 8k on the clock.

Apart from obvious signs of droppage...any other issues that I should be wary of (it's at a dealers)?

Thanks in advance!

[454697819]

No word of a Lie.. A tuono...

I genuinly believe it will fit what yoru asking of it, leave the exhausts allone and you will still get 40 ish to the gallon.

[yorkie_chris]

I still think a 955 daytona fits the bill, for motorway commuting a big fast naked bike isn't really suited.

[Stu]

I'm thinking this looks like a good deal, there is one more local to me for the same price but 8k on the clock.

Apart from obvious signs of droppage...any other issues that I should be wary of (it's at a dealers)?

Thanks in advance!
Service history (2 services required) paint falling off. compared to 2K miles at the same price :shock: this is almost ready for the knackers yard

[454697819]

I still think a 955 daytona fits the bill, for motorway commuting a big fast naked bike isn't really suited.


tis fine u just need big ol neck muscles...

[stevebetts]

I'll see if I can test ride a GXR, presumably it's a higher insurance group than the Daytona though?

I rode my mates Z750 and although it felt better on the corners than the SV and obviously had loads more power, it just didn't feel as fun as the SV and the power certainly didn't seem to come on until higher revs, at which point I was struggling to hang on!

The Daytona felt stronger around town, with lower revs, even if you were in a higher gear.




To be honest, the main reason for wanting the Daytona is that it looks ace, gets great write ups, was fun to ride (even though the riding position was way more aggressive I'm sure I'd get used to it) and it's a real bargain at £5.5 for an 09 plated 08 bike. The dealer where I got my SV from has a K7 GSXR600 for £6.2k and the K9 SV is £4,900, so I was thinking bike for buck the Daytona is a good deal.

I bought a Z750 after my SV650.
The Kwak is a great bike.
Only problem was it was naked and hate the look of the "S" version.
The front susspension on the zed is not great, but add some hagon progressive springs and it is much better.
I have to say though - not good on the motorway above 90MPH - the wind blast is ridiculous.
What about an SV1000S?

[Nobbylad]

Sorry to dig up an old thread, however I accepted an offer of £3,600 for my bike (K8, 7.5k miles) which I think is a good price and I have agreed to buy it back for £1k.

All I need now is a front cowl, lhs lowers, a gear lever and some bar ends.

I was SO close to buying the last black 675, brand new, 08 unregistered, but am happy I'll have my SV back.

Off to the wanted section to blag some bits now!

[injury_ian]

tut, and after all them extras / accessories you have sold.....

[SoulKiss]

I bought a Z750 after my SV650.
The Kwak is a great bike.
Only problem was it was naked and hate the look of the "S" version.
The front susspension on the zed is not great, but add some hagon progressive springs and it is much better.
I have to say though - not good on the motorway above 90MPH - the wind blast is ridiculous.
What about an SV1000S?

I have the 08 Z750 - had its 1st Birthday on Sunday :)

Had no problems doing triple figure speeds on it, went right up to Petevtwin speeds :p Larry couldn't get away (was interesting too - he was in 3rd, changing to 4th before I was even out of 2nd :p)

They improved the suspension a bit, but not loads and gave it really nice fueling :)

Get one of these :)

[Nobbylad]

tut, and after all them extras / accessories you have sold.....

I know!

To be honest, I didn't like the hugger once I had fitted it anyway, prefer the look of the bike without it and the handguards were damaged in the off. I did like the Symtec heaters and there is a hole in the dash where the switch was, but I'm sure I can stretch to another set when it gets cold again!

I've kept the Scottoiler, R&G bungs (just need a new one for the lhs) and the sw-motech rack, so all in all I don't think I'm too badly off. Plus I've paid off most of the finance with the money they've given me so it ain't so bad after all.

Deffo gonna get some new tyres and some Maxton springs for the front end now though!