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I think the worst are van drivers, closely followed by the elderly.
Van drivers DO indicate, but generally after they have started the turn, and old people think they are the only people on the road, and seem to not know what a lane is.
Who do you think are the worst drivers? (obviously not EVERY person in each catogary will be a terrible driver, but as a general rule...)
Middle Aged, Women, in Large Jeeps/Estate Cars, Think they own the road, and everyone else is just not as good as them. Rant over.
Middle Aged, Women, in Large Jeeps/Estate Cars, Think they own the road, and everyone else is just not as good as them. Rant over.
Yes it was my first ride today when everyone is back at school after the half term, and during school pick up hours. It's been the only ride i havn't enjoyed due to the traffic and mums in their 4x4's.
Dave20046
25-02-09, 06:32 PM
Following me closely are; the elderly, the stupid (boyracers and smackheads), the rich (rangerovers etc.)
Mr Speirs
25-02-09, 06:33 PM
Old people and Posh women.
dizzyblonde
25-02-09, 06:33 PM
Anything that sits in a cage with four wheels?
Dave20046
25-02-09, 06:35 PM
Posh women.
I've had soo many run ins with rangerovered blondes. Thinking small 2 way roads are oneway, understeering out of a junction they mistimed for fear of breaking a nail, blindly reversing into main roads, changing lanes with no observation (luckily I foresaw this as they had there mirrors folded in!!).
redlavachips
25-02-09, 06:36 PM
Old people and Posh women.
i second this but old people more, when they think 20mph is just abit fast and slow down:mad:
Bluepete
25-02-09, 06:38 PM
Accoriding to the lads at the GMP bodyshop,
I AM!
Heheheheheh
gruntygiggles
25-02-09, 06:38 PM
Hmmm, depends where you're driving I think. In the country lanes I've had to use my whole life, the elderly are the worst because they either refuse to reverse even when they are only 10yards past a passing place or they can no longer turn their heads to see where they are going.
On general roads, A and B roads, I agree, van drivers are terrible.
In towns and cities, without doubt it's taxi drivers
Motorways I would say the occasional lorry driver that ingnores the law and uses lane 3, the idiots that cannot drive anywhere but the middle lane and the typical field sales execs that spends half thier lives on the motorway and think they own it do particularly annoy me!
dizzyblonde
25-02-09, 06:39 PM
I've had soo many run ins with rangerovered blondes. Thinking small 2 way roads are oneway, understeering out of a junction they mistimed for fear of breaking a nail, blindly reversing into main roads, changing lanes with no observation (luckily I foresaw this as they had there mirrors folded in!!).
careful careful dissin blondes:smt068
but then I don't drive....so carry on:razz:
Mr Speirs
25-02-09, 06:39 PM
I have a mate that when asked the same question he replied
'Birds and Learners'
The Guru
25-02-09, 06:39 PM
Drunks
actually i disagree...
Probily my female mate..
Shes learning to drive..
Faye, how do you start the car?
Replies, ' Just press the go button, its easy'..
In complete seriousness..
No hope in life..
Dave20046
25-02-09, 06:41 PM
Drunks
You'll find a lot of 'over the limit' drivers will be better than the elderly, chavs, learners, posh birds and all the other stereotypes
Dave20046
25-02-09, 06:41 PM
careful careful dissin blondes:smt068
but then I don't drive....so carry on:razz:
You're a bit pink too though :)
and not a bimbo
dizzyblonde
25-02-09, 06:43 PM
You're a bit pink too though :)
and not a bimbo
its not hard to pretend to be a bit fick:rolleyes:
like I said anything in a cage is potential for the worst driver.
Dave20046
25-02-09, 06:43 PM
actually i disagree...
Probily my female mate..
Shes learning to drive..
Faye, how do you start the car?
Replies, ' Just press the go button, its easy'..
In complete seriousness..
No hope in life..
No there are worse a lass asked me what the raised dotted white lines across junctions are for (funny enough in itself). I'm talking about give way lines for the bimbos of the forum. And I told her they were so blind drivers knew when to stop for the junction. She in all seriousness believed it.
redlavachips
25-02-09, 06:44 PM
You'll find a lot of 'over the limit' drivers will be better than the elderly, chavs, learners, posh birds and all the other stereotypes
but what if there is a drunk elderly, chavs, learners, posh birds and all the other stereotypes , then who?????:confused:
I have infinite patience for learners, but when it comes to anyone else in a car there are no excuses.
I forgot to mention the c0cks in their BMW/Mercedes with personalised plates who have absolutely no patience. One guy was behind me at a mini roundabout, and after my little escapade last week with someone not indicating and turned right anyway, i was extra careful and stopped, checked it was definitely safe to continue before moving off. He had no patience, and as soon as i stopped he beeped his horn.
Also, my other friend, doesnt stop to give way for crossroads, APPARANTLY its safer to keep going, its quicker, and no one is ever there.. Shes still learning, she does this with her mum in the car sat beside her..
Wow, women, can a female explain that to me?
(granted the org women are a different class of riders/drivers, but a woman's insight may be helpful)..
Accoriding to the lads at the GMP bodyshop,
I AM!
Heheheheheh
So Pete - if you smash up a cop car, do you have to disclose it to your own insurers???
Worst drivers are young women in small vehicles - highly aggressive and generally clueless.
Old people and Posh women.
You've met my mother, then?:D
Dave20046
25-02-09, 06:55 PM
but what if there is a drunk elderly, chavs, learners, posh birds and all the other stereotypes , then who?????:confused:
Then we're all doomed
I seriously think that after a certain age, people should have to have a second test to see if theyre safe to actually be on the road. Some old people, my grandad for one, are good old drivers. Others do not have a clue and have terrible reaction times.
Many old people go through illnesses that would affect their judgements and reactions, but they are not always advised to stop driving. My nan for one is on medication that she believes would affect her driving, so she stopped.
My dad is a fireman, and has been for many years. He has seen some gruesome car crashes (particularly in auto transmissions) where old people have just lost control and plowed the car into a wall and died. Anyone that can do that, could have easily killed pedestrians or other car drivers, or YOU on your bike. It's ridiculous.
Some old people are so completely oblivious, they should not be on the road.
keith_d
25-02-09, 07:04 PM
My sister used to think I was taking the **** when I commented on how bad some women's driving was - until she started driving a lot for work. IMO, it's lack of experience and the lack of confidence that goes with it.
One of them was responsible for writing off my Astra some years ago. A group of cars (including mine) left a big roundabout together and were accelerating onto a dual carriageway when she stopped dead, wrecking 4 cars. She realised she'd taken the wrong exit and hit the brakes (hard).
At the other end of the scale, the overconfidence of van drivers who never use their mirrors or indicators takes some beating. One nearly got me when I was riding my little 125 alongside some stationary traffic. Without looking or indicating he pulled out and raced off up the wrong side of the road to get into the petrol station before the lights changed.
I think white van man just about gets my vote, but it's close.
Keith.
Wideboy
25-02-09, 07:07 PM
bus drivers, chavs and audi yuppies around here
although i don't condone the white van man driving style, time is money in some cases
anyone think that before you can drive a car you should have to ride a moped for a year?, would improve peoples observations
Gene genie
25-02-09, 07:12 PM
sorry to say, but the elderly in daewoo matiz's and continental lorry drivers.
^^ agreed, give them some road sense/experience for a year, when not having to worry about speed..
got treated lyk sh!te on my 50.. :(
idiots two up on scooters, helmets undone.
VW drivers
BBadger
25-02-09, 07:40 PM
I've had soo many run ins with rangerovered blondes. Thinking small 2 way roads are oneway, understeering out of a junction they mistimed for fear of breaking a nail, blindly reversing into main roads, changing lanes with no observation (luckily I foresaw this as they had there mirrors folded in!!).
:smt068
And i still drive to collage .... its dangerous!
They may have to big boobs but only one little brain cell!
Biker Biggles
25-02-09, 07:52 PM
The worst drivers are those with a bad attitude.And they can be either sex any age and driving anything.
Anyone in a high sided car - like Renault Kangoo etc- needs a high ceiling to fit their big head in
Everyone, regardless of the vehicle they're in control of, is the worst driver on the road.
They're all trying to kill me. Even I try to kill myself at times. :rolleyes:
Don't trust anyone, not even yourself, simple.
Dave20046
25-02-09, 08:31 PM
VW drivers
careful :-dd
skeetly
25-02-09, 08:33 PM
Oh dear hope this is tongue in cheek.
I have a vw, a 4x4 and have my own work transit in white.
I think van drivers get a bad press as they have blind spots. My van has no back windows. For rear visibilty you rely on your mirrors.
Take care round them vans......
IMO anyone in charge of any vehicle who isnt interested in actually driving the thing is a bad driver.
There are people who use them as an office, a disco, a shopping trolley etc.
svdemon
25-02-09, 08:36 PM
Women!
Anything that sits in a cage with four wheels?
Motorbikes annoy me far more. They're the only ones that block me from filtering
Miss Alpinestarhero
25-02-09, 08:42 PM
at the moment....
Trucks. The bloody things drive SO close that they might as well touch my bumper. On Monday, I had a truck that was creeping closer and closer and ever more closer even though I was stationary. I seriously thought I was going to get hit.
Overall I would say 4x4 drivers. They really do think they are superior and can ram you off the road / intimidate you or blind you with their headlights.
Maria
Learningcurve
25-02-09, 08:43 PM
I think all car drivers are wonderful. They all drive really well and I never have any problems with any of them,ever.
Gotta go now, got an apointment at specsavers to get my rose tinted glasses changed for a different shade! :rolleyes:
I think the worst are van drivers, closely followed by the elderly.
Van drivers DO indicate, but generally after they have started the turn, and old people think they are the only people on the road, and seem to not know what a lane is.
Who do you think are the worst drivers? (obviously not EVERY person in each catogary will be a terrible driver, but as a general rule...)
Classify "van drivers"
Builders?
Plumbers?
Delivery drivers?
:) totally agree wiv Baph
careful :-dd
BBadger
25-02-09, 09:00 PM
Classify "van drivers"
Builders?
Plumbers?
Delivery drivers?
Hmmm my delivery driver at work acts more like hes racing everything else on the road. Fun to be in but i'd hate to be the poor sod hes driving behind or overtaking.
El Saxo
25-02-09, 09:00 PM
I seriously think that after a certain age, people should have to have a second test to see if theyre safe to actually be on the road. Some old people, my grandad for one, are good old drivers. Others do not have a clue and have terrible reaction times.
Many old people go through illnesses that would affect their judgements and reactions, but they are not always advised to stop driving. My nan for one is on medication that she believes would affect her driving, so she stopped.
AFAIK there is some kind of assessment done under certain conditions / at a certain age.
When my grandad was still alive he had his licence revoked at the age of 65 cos he failed some kind of assessment - I think in his case it was mostly for medical reasons. Whatever the reason though I'm sure it was something that was imposed on him cos he wasn't happy at the time!
Dave20046
25-02-09, 09:10 PM
Classify "van drivers"
Builders?
Plumbers?
Delivery drivers?
Motorfactors drivers could name 3 companies that employ various deathwish f1 wannabes
A local aerial company I've had run ins with many a time
Most of my previous companies drivers
At least 2 of my current companies drivers. (both IT)
Dave20046
25-02-09, 09:11 PM
Hmmm my delivery driver at work acts more like hes racing everything else on the road. Fun to be in but i'd hate to be the poor sod hes driving behind
or over :razz:
BBadger
25-02-09, 09:13 PM
Meh you wouldnt realise youd hit anything with the amount of dents in the van.
Dave20046
25-02-09, 09:17 PM
Meh you wouldnt realise youd hit anything with the amount of dents in the van.
Same with our vans we have a notoriously bad driver, I didn't notice I'd hit sommat til I had to scrape his little corpse out of the wheel arch. When the cd skipped it did set me wondering though.
yorkie_chris
25-02-09, 09:50 PM
Everyone!
I've never really had much trouble with the german saloon driving type, as I try not to get in their way, or if I'm in front I'm going a decent clip anyway. WVM generally seems OK so long as you realise they can't see a lot, and stay out of their way.
Buses are full of smelly people, so I don't trust those. Trucks are generally driven by foreigners high on schnapps, benzedrine and little chocolate covered peanuts, and are heading nowhere near berlin, so watch out for them.
Worst of the lot are the young sl4gs in stupid little cars, or the old slags in stupidly large cars with their precious little brats in the back. Funny as f##k when you come across those and you can ensure the little rats will be saying "mummy what does that word mean" for fackin weeks!
Motorbikes annoy me far more. They're the only ones that block me from filtering
Lol! Them too!
Dave20046
25-02-09, 09:52 PM
Trucks are generally driven by foreigners high on schnapps, benzedrine and little chocolate covered peanuts, and are heading nowhere near berlin, so watch out for them.
I scan trucks on the motorway for foreign plates, to avoid a squishing. Stupidly common apparently.
Motorfactors drivers could name 3 companies that employ various deathwish f1 wannabes
A local aerial company I've had run ins with many a time
Most of my previous companies drivers
At least 2 of my current companies drivers. (both IT)
so ,I take it you are slagging off all van drivers.I have a van,and its white.Does that mean ,that I should be stopped and given a good kickin?
Mr Speirs
25-02-09, 10:23 PM
so ,I take it you are slagging off all van drivers.I have a van,and its white.Does that mean ,that I should be stopped and given a good kickin?
Yes :D;)
keith_d
25-02-09, 10:23 PM
so ,I take it you are slagging off all van drivers.I have a van,and its white.Does that mean ,that I should be stopped and given a good kickin?
Starting to sound like a plan..... :)
Dave20046
25-02-09, 10:23 PM
so ,I take it you are slagging off all van drivers.I have a van,and its white.Does that mean ,that I should be stopped and given a good kickin?
Not before me I have a turquoise 2lt tranny
so ,I take it you are slagging off all van drivers.I have a van,and its white.Does that mean ,that I should be stopped and given a good kickin?
My dad has a van, and he is a good driver. Like i mentioned in my first post, not everyone in each catagory is bad.
urbane1
25-02-09, 10:37 PM
Canadians.
Yes :D;)
Starting to sound like a plan..... :)
FOR SALE....ASTRA VAN ...carefull owner in hospital due to random attack by a gang of bike riding lunatics:smt068
MR UKI (1)
25-02-09, 10:41 PM
Women drivers in VW Golfs or RAV4's :smt071:smt071:smt071
The worst drivers are usually the ones that genuinely think they are very good drivers.
pencil shavings
26-02-09, 12:27 AM
women.....
next
Army MT drivers....
end off...
.. and we wonder why the number of road rage attacks are on the up!!!!
ski boy
26-02-09, 05:32 AM
I owned a van, and I used to love the fact that I cared less about my van than everyone else did about there cars etc... (never really thought of bikes, prob didnt see them as I was racing to my next dest, wearing my white socks and listening to rave music. Looking back I was a complete Ar**!!
Worst Drivers, my Mum... seen loads of accidents, and still cant understand why, I actually had to ask her to watch the road and stop looking at me while she talked... We were pulling out of a junction....
And Damn.... lots of people on buses really do smell!
gruntygiggles
26-02-09, 08:26 AM
bus drivers, chavs and audi yuppies around here
although i don't condone the white van man driving style, time is money in some cases
anyone think that before you can drive a car you should have to ride a moped for a year?, would improve peoples observations
I've often said similar to Stretchie......I've not got a license but have been a pillion or years and can honestly say that my obs before I got on the back of a bike the first time were appauling compared to now.
If all new drivers had to sit pillion or ride a bike for a good time on all different roads, they'd have a much greater understanding of how their driving can affect those on bikes and others in general. All it takes is one idiot to decide on a spur of the moment lane change because your lane is moving a bit faster and BANG...you're off your bike and the driver is left saying, "but I looked, I swear I did". It should be compulsory at least I think to have to spend say, 10 hours riding as a pillion.
454697819
26-02-09, 08:35 AM
Accoriding to the lads at the GMP bodyshop,
I AM!
Heheheheheh
how many polic cars you dented then?
Amanda M
26-02-09, 08:52 AM
People who wear hats in their cars
People who drive with their noses about an inch from the windscreen and still don't see anything that's going on around them and look terrified. If it's so unpleasant to drive, get the fecking bus you fool :smt074
*shakes head in dispair*
Dave20046
26-02-09, 09:01 AM
People who wear hats in their cars
yep guaranteed bad drivers
And Damn.... lots of people on buses really do smell!
Avoiding busses was half the reason i got a bike.
sam_p2000
26-02-09, 10:15 AM
Reading bus drivers dont stop for ANYONE and i drive a dayglo orange dyno rod van for work! That and Mercedes/BMW drivers as a rule of thumb (not wishing to start an argument here!) and above all the elderly.
Of course there is still nothing more unsettling for me than LHD cars when im on the bike cos you know they are not going to be looking for the same things the average British driver would be! :rolleyes:
Going by this mornings experience - old men. B+gger nearly had me. :D
Dave20046
26-02-09, 10:20 AM
Reading bus drivers dont stop for ANYONE
Not suprised if they've got their nose in a book!
*gets coat*
sam_p2000
26-02-09, 11:12 AM
Not suprised if they've got their nose in a book!
*gets coat*
:smt042 For those not in the borough its a big town in Berkshire and all Bus drivers in it, when pulling out make their own space lol B*stards have hit me in the van before now! I mean, searously...its 7 foot high, 12 feet long and its F'ing orange! How can you claim not to se that coming?! :rolleyes:
Dave20046
26-02-09, 11:23 AM
:smt042 For those not in the borough its a big town in Berkshire and all Bus drivers in it, when pulling out make their own space lol B*stards have hit me in the van before now! I mean, searously...its 7 foot high, 12 feet long and its F'ing orange! How can you claim not to se that coming?! :rolleyes:
lol I knew really :safe:
Guy I work with had a busdriver fall asleep and plow through his car last week completely writing it off.
sam_p2000
26-02-09, 11:27 AM
Doesnt suprise me in the slightest! Maybe they get a bonus for cutting people up? lol The scary thing is that if its was a bike in the way the rider just would not stand a chance. On the other hand as im sure some members will agree possibly the worst and most frightening roads are around central london for bikers and drivers alike. Have only had the dis-pleasure a few times and i certainly couldnt do it everyday.
Dave20046
26-02-09, 11:31 AM
Doesnt suprise me in the slightest! Maybe they get a bonus for cutting people up? lol The scary thing is that if its was a bike in the way the rider just would not stand a chance. On the other hand as im sure some members will agree possibly the worst and most frightening roads are around central london for bikers and drivers alike. Have only had the dis-pleasure a few times and i certainly couldnt do it everyday.
Aye you'd hope on a bike you'd be a bit more cautious/have the power to get the hell out of their. But I don't like to think of the consequences :(
London is a place I've never driven or ridden, thank god.
Miss Alpinestarhero
26-02-09, 01:02 PM
London is a place I've never driven or ridden, thank god.
You can't just narrow it down to London alone, all major towns / cities have the potential to be horrendous driving and riding experiences.
Maria
People who don't know where they are going.
sam_p2000
26-02-09, 01:33 PM
You can't just narrow it down to London alone, all major towns / cities have the potential to be horrendous driving and riding experiences.
Maria
Granted...im sure its as bad in other major cities and towns, but London's the only one i have been to :smt042
Not a single mention of Volvo drivers..............:toss:
Actually, I suspect that the worst drivers are those not driving a vehicle that they own/insure or pay for the fuel for. They don't respect their vehicles and show similar contempt for other road users. Their journey is always more important than anyone elses.
timwilky
26-02-09, 01:44 PM
No group has an exclusive right to being the worst drivers,
I however nominate :- Iranians. I know one who enters roundabouts not by the direction he wishes to go. But by the lane that has the shortest queue.
edit :- BTW he did drive a Volvo until it was written off on a roundabout
scooby2102
26-02-09, 01:49 PM
Not a single mention of Volvo drivers..............:toss:
Actually, I suspect that the worst drivers are those not driving a vehicle that they own/insure or pay for the fuel for. They don't respect their vehicles and show similar contempt for other road users. Their journey is always more important than anyone elses.
thats a fair old sweeping statement you made there jabba :)
I come directly into that category (although dont drive a volvo) and have respect for most other road users unless they are driving like total knobs
Not a single mention of Volvo drivers..............:toss:
.
So I'm a :toss: then...
arr well take one to know one....:wink::safe:
No one is perfect! In london i get cut up by nearly everyone. I am finding at the monet that scooter riders are coming up in the ranks. However, bus drivers are still the worst in London without a shadow of a doubt. They jump the lights, block junctions, park all over the place (Elephant and castle bus stop) and generaly have NO constideration for any other road user. I would even put scotter riders above Cab drivers nowadays, they seriously think that they are on a scooter and the throttle is a switch!
Things i do notice are. Most cars that have no lights on at night are by Majority, Women. Women in general NEVER let you out of a junction. White van man is the biggest culprit for driving on the phone, BMW Bike riders think they own the road on thier 1927 engined GS's.
All said and done these are just personal observations, and most of the time that i get cut up, its probably because im not where i should be, and i think that goes for most of us.
Not a single mention of Volvo drivers..............:toss:
Actually, I suspect that the worst drivers are those not driving a vehicle that they own/insure or pay for the fuel for. They don't respect their vehicles and show similar contempt for other road users. Their journey is always more important than anyone elses.
And Jabb's, be careful old chap, i own a volvo, and i know where you live ;)
most of the time that i get cut up, its probably because im not where i should be, and i think that goes for most of us.
yeah. bl00dy bikers :smt094
yeah. bl00dy bikers :smt094Hooligans, all of us
And Jabb's, be careful old chap, i own a volvo, and i know where you live ;)
Whoops :rolleyes:
Make that "Not a single mention of Volvo drivers..............:toss: (excluding Viney)"
STRAMASHER
26-02-09, 02:56 PM
The British.:toss:
The Belgians:toss:
"Eastern Europeans":toss:
or TBH,
whoever is infront of me.:)
Volve -
made by machines
driven by the dummy
Thats what the line used to be.
Theres many bad drivers imo. basically EVERYONE who doesn't concentrate on driving and is doing everything else. Doesn't know driving laws, or even their highway code. You see them every day. Middle lanes, no indicators etc...
I even had some black bloke offer me over for a row last night.
he sat in the outside lane, i waited, waited, waited, waited, waited, feck it, inside.
jsut as I go (i'd waited for 1.35 miles before the PC brigade get all excited), he pulls accross, no indication.... I pulled next to, point at indicators, shake head, carry on.
He flashes, flashes, leaves full beam on (daylight?????). So i slow. he signs for me to pull over, yeah i got time, lets go punk.
Pull over, gets out, all beefed up attitude "whats your problem"
me: "errr you, can't your drive dickwad. Sitting in the outside lane, no indicators, generally driving like a chump. Do you know your highway code at all???"
He just turns and walks off. He wanted a row/fight, but as soon as i'd pointed his errors, he had nothing to say.
So the worst drivers are us drivers who know what were actually on about, as we're the minority and always get the finger for pointing out others mistakes, so im wrong, its me whos the crap driver :(
Kids who drive without 'L' plates. You just never know to give them a wide berth.
Kids who drive without 'L' plates. You just never know to give them a wide berth.
But you'll get some great pictures of the resulting carnage :o
Biker Biggles
26-02-09, 04:37 PM
Belgians
They have got to come top at something
TAXI DRIVERS
the ones in leeds anyway. homicidal maniacs to a man. bus drivers get a commission for wiping out bikers (thats why they drill holes in their fuel tanks) but they just lack that killer instinct
Belgians
They have got to come top at something
+1
I was going to say that in Holland it's basically anybody in a German car (and I hate to say it a few of my fellow Volvo drivers as well...)
But Biggles reminded me about coming back from the UK last year. I complained about the Ducth on the way to the ferry, the brits (driving standards have dropped so much in the last 10 years since I left I no longer have to get used to being back in the UK now :( ), on the way back via the chunnel I wasn't happy with the French but coming through Belgian the rest pale in comparison...
I don't get why people complain about women drivers so much though... I had a colleague who always complained about women drivers, was amazed I gave my wife the key to the Turbo Brick, who then weeks after passing his test destroyed a 306 Cab that was a couple of weeks old (company car) in a single car accident on the motorway in good weather. And afterwards still compained that women shouldn't be allowed licenses.
on the way back via the chunnel I wasn't happy with the French but coming through Belgian the rest pale in comparison...
Steer well clear of portugal then :smt106
Biker Biggles
26-02-09, 05:09 PM
Mind you there is always the Athens ring road------:mad::o
Is it as bad as driving through rome? That was interesting...
Kids who drive without 'L' plates. You just never know to give them a wide berth.
:toss:
:D just kiddin'.
dirtydog
26-02-09, 09:39 PM
Ah some good old generalisation about groups of people and then slating all of them in one go
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