View Full Version : Cost of a seasons racing or serious amount of track time?
John 675
02-03-09, 08:09 AM
How much are competitors looking to pay? I can imagine it's as little as possible but for a first season, what would you need other than a race worthy bike?. . . Kit wise ( I have an idea )
Just weighing up some options for next year
Cheers
John
I try not to think about the total cost, it doesnt seem that bad then :-)
Once you have a race ready bike I think the main costs are entry fees, tyres and fuel. Tyres, you 'could' change every round. In reality I dont think thats necessary although it depends on which club you race with and how much racing per round. In my case its typically three 7 lap sprints within a day so tyres are good for a few rounds at least. You'll need dry tyres, wets on wheels etc.
Dont forget to factor in the odd crash repair, they do happen.
The club I marshall for....the general figure banded about (other than I dont want to think about it) is around £5000 (not including having a race prepped scrut passable bike)
John 675
02-03-09, 03:27 PM
Aye 5k, would that to be comfortable or is that just scraping by??
SoulKiss
02-03-09, 03:32 PM
Aye 5k, would that to be comfortable or is that just scraping by??
5k would be 1 trackday every couple two weeks approx
Aye 5k, would that to be comfortable or is that just scraping by??
Thats to do every race in the season which is 7 for the club I marshall for. That includes race entry, traveling, camping, food, but does not include for unscheduled maintenance through dropping your bike or engine/gear problems etc.
5k would be 1 trackday every couple two weeks approx
Yep I would say the money would be much better spent on trackdays.
Get MUCH more time on the track for your money.
John 675
02-03-09, 03:40 PM
5k would be 1 trackday every couple two weeks approx
Yep I would say the money would be much better spent on trackdays.
Get MUCH more time on the track for your money.
This is what i'm thinking.. Tbh when my sv is finished in a few months ill have a pretty nifty track tool 1 trackday ever 2 - 3 weeks would see me well I think might even be worthwhile looking into a season ticket with focused or someone??
I think no limits do a good season ticket for about £1500 - £2500 and you can do every single event on their calender.....you would have to do 1 a week to make it worth you while....you do get 25% off their euro trackdays though to almera and the likes.
WEas going to say, if you go through 9 pistons in a season like my old man did on his single, the costs somewhat rise quite a bit.
Tip - Use a reliable bike :lol:
Tip - Don't crash :lol:
stuballs
02-03-09, 06:33 PM
5k would be 1 trackday every couple two weeks approx
Including tyres and petrol though?
After a while track days become too tame and your circuit skill will not improve any more. Too many red flags for silly reasons. Go racing and you won't turn back to trackdays unless you need to get your eye back in and test the bike out pre season or get experience on an unknown circuit.
Cost of racing all in has got to be nearer to 10K including the bike and transport but worth the buzz and overall thrill which includes the camaderie in the paddock, new mates, both high excitement and some seriously sad times too. The bond in racing is great.................
After a while track days become too tame and your circuit skill will not improve any more. Too many red flags for silly reasons. Go racing and you won't turn back to trackdays unless you need to get your eye back in and test the bike out pre season or get experience on an unknown circuit.
Cost of racing all in has got to be nearer to 10K including the bike and transport but worth the buzz and overall thrill which includes the camaderie in the paddock, new mates, both high excitement and some seriously sad times too. The bond in racing is great.................
10K jesus, i will have to wait a few years yet then, thats a fair amount of dollar. Surely you would have to be doing pretty well for yourself to be able to afford that?
10K jesus, i will have to wait a few years yet then, thats a fair amount of dollar. Surely you would have to be doing pretty well for yourself to be able to afford that?
Racing isnt a hobby IMO its pretty much your life. If all you want to do is race then you do what you can to afford it.
John 675
02-03-09, 08:10 PM
Racing isnt a hobby IMO its pretty much your life. If all you want to do is race then you do what you can to afford it.
+1.000.000 I agree completely
but 10K is a bit over the top. You can start out much much cheaper than that.
You can easily talk yourself into needing every upgrade and accessory under the sun but it just isnt required. Save the big bucks for when you are fighting for the top few positions.
Get a bike, a trailer (if you dont have a van) and crack on with it. I've kipped in tents, the back of other peoples vans and loved every minute of it.
After 10 years of racing I've now upgraded to a very nice caravan, a nearly new transit, an SV with all the upgrades I can afford but it wasnt always that way.
Find the right bike and you could get a season out of a couple of grand easy.
but 10K is a bit over the top. You can start out much much cheaper than that.
You can easily talk yourself into needing every upgrade and accessory under the sun but it just isnt required. Save the big bucks for when you are fighting for the top few positions.
Get a bike, a trailer (if you dont have a van) and crack on with it. I've kipped in tents, the back of other peoples vans and loved every minute of it.
After 10 years of racing I've now upgraded to a very nice caravan, a nearly new transit, an SV with all the upgrades I can afford but it wasnt always that way.
Find the right bike and you could get a season out of a couple of grand easy.
That sounds more like it, i understand that racing is a lifestyle but i would be pushed to be able to afford 10K at my age.
John 675
03-03-09, 08:33 AM
That sounds more like it, i understand that racing is a lifestyle but i would be pushed to be able to afford 10K at my age.
how old are you?
21, im not looking to race for at least a 1-2 years, so better get saving, probably gonna use my current bike.
John 675
03-03-09, 08:40 AM
21 is a perfect time to think about starting
. less overheads
. no kids
. more chance of injury recovery!
Just get a better job :D and work every hour that you live!! LOL
21 is a perfect time to think about starting
. less overheads
. no kids
. more chance of injury recovery!
Just get a better job :D and work every hour that you live!! LOL
. less overheads (about £800 month, rent, bills, loan)
. no kids (not yet, but the missus has mentioned it) :)
. more chance of injury recovery! (already recovering from shoulder injuries got to have a op this year, but i could still ride)
Just get a better job :D and work every hour that you live!! LOL (that is pretty much how it is anyway, training to be a Surveyor work 50-60 hours a week, self employed so no overtime, 16k take home but distance learning Uni which i have still got about 3 years of, takes up a fair bit of time)
. less overheads (about £800 month, rent, bills, loan)
. no kids (not yet, but the missus has mentioned it) :)
. more chance of injury recovery! (already recovering from shoulder injuries got to have a op this year, but i could still ride)
Just get a better job :D and work every hour that you live!! LOL (that is pretty much how it is anyway, training to be a Surveyor work 50-60 hours a week, self employed so no overtime, 16k take home but distance learning Uni which i have still got about 3 years of, takes up a fair bit of time)
When you race it becomes;
less overheads (about £(all of it) month, racing, rent, bills, loan, food, clothes)
in that order :-)
When you race it becomes;
less overheads (about £(all of it) month, racing, rent, bills, loan, food, clothes)
in that order :-)
lol, thats what i expect so got get wait for a bit, when i qulaified my pay will increase a fair bit but by that time i will probably have a mortgage :confused:
John 675
03-03-09, 09:00 AM
. less overheads (about £800 month, rent, bills, loan)
. no kids (not yet, but the missus has mentioned it) :)
. more chance of injury recovery! (already recovering from shoulder injuries got to have a op this year, but i could still ride)
Just get a better job :D and work every hour that you live!! LOL (that is pretty much how it is anyway, training to be a Surveyor work 50-60 hours a week, self employed so no overtime, 16k take home but distance learning Uni which i have still got about 3 years of, takes up a fair bit of time)
..... LOL I couldn't race with kids.. But I hope it all works out :)
..... LOL I couldn't race with kids.. But I hope it all works out :)
Cheers mate, How come u couldnt race with kids?
Dicky Ticker
03-03-09, 09:05 AM
If you are considering using the same bike for road and track use[racing] you may run into problems on one or the other,just not a practical solution as you have to have so much gear with you
ie-fairing is different
no glass
tyre changes
sproket changes
carrying fuel
We do endurance racing and as the racing series is all over the country your travel expenses are quite high as you need another vehicle to transport all your gear
I think 10k is the more realistic figure for a 10 race series
Even your clothing comes under scrutiny so if you have a minor tumble and scratch your lid----new lid
If you are considering using the same bike for road and track use[racing] you may run into problems on one or the other,just not a practical solution as you have to have so much gear with you
ie-fairing is different
no glass
tyre changes
sproket changes
carrying fuel
We do endurance racing and as the racing series is all over the country your travel expenses are quite high as you need another vehicle to transport all your gear
I think 10k is the more realistic figure for a 10 race series
Even your clothing comes under scrutiny so if you have a minor tumble and scratch your lid----new lid
I always knew it would be pricey, its the main thing that stopped me doing karting when i was younger.
No i mean when i am in a situation where i can afford another bike i will use my current SV for racing and racing only, and have a seperate road bike (a 675 would be nice).
John 675
03-03-09, 09:39 AM
Cheers mate, How come u couldnt race with kids?
If I have kids I'd be slower because of not wanting to damage myself and potentialy killing my self LOL colin edwards claims it makes him half a second slower LOL
If I have kids I'd be slower because of not wanting to damage myself and potentialy killing my self LOL colin edwards claims it makes him half a second slower LOL
Ahhh, but then you could go in there wanting to race harder, to do better and acheive more for them, two ways of looking at it.
John 675
03-03-09, 10:07 AM
More money or leaving your child fatherless is a no brained LOL what you do is race harder before you have kids it's win win that way LOL :)
SoulKiss
03-03-09, 10:08 AM
Ahhh, but then you could go in there wanting to race harder, to do better and acheive more for them, two ways of looking at it.
Racing harder = more chance of injury = more chance of death/disability = being less able to provide for them/be there for them.
I think if you had kids you would feel that way.
Me, well I like my toys too much and was never good at sharing - hence no kids :)
Racing harder = more chance of injury = more chance of death/disability = being less able to provide for them/be there for them.
I think if you had kids you would feel that way.
Me, well I like my toys too much and was never good at sharing - hence no kids :)
lol, true.
Like you say im sure i will think differently when i have nippers myself
Dicky Ticker
06-03-09, 12:26 PM
The one advantage of the track is that medical support is at hand if you do come off
stuballs
06-03-09, 12:31 PM
The one advantage of the track is that medical support is at hand if you do come off
Is that not true for track days and racing?
Brands medical staff are very good. Took me to hospital when i smashed myself up a couple of years ago. Gave me gas and air which did naff all!
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