Aggression

[Dicky Ticker]

Seems to me that some people on the site like to suggest aggression is the answer to lifes daily problems. Rage temper,or just their stupidity, whatever you want to call it,just remember there is always somebody who might be that bit harder than you think you are and that bit madder,meaning you can be severly hurt, stabbed or even end up dead

[timwilky]

I have a guaranteed cure for my aggression. When ever I get angry, start to look at people with murderous intent I get shot down by the wife.

she scares me more that a 7ft brick outhouse could ever do

[shonadoll]

Yep, there's a lot of it about. I deal with irate customers at work all the time and it never ceases to amaze me how they get angry so quickly.

[Dappa D]

DT, totally agree with what your saying...unfortunately i fall into the rage catagory...have a very short fuse....in the cold light of day its easy to think like that...more difficult when in a rage and someone has wronged you IMO

[Wideboy]

I have a guaranteed cure for my aggression. When ever I get angry, start to look at people with murderous intent I get shot down by the wife.

she scares me more that a 7ft brick outhouse could ever do


lol that made me chuckle :mrgreen:

[Speedy Claire]

Seems to me that some people on the site like to suggest aggression is the answer to lifes daily problems. Rage temper,or just their stupidity, whatever you want to call it,just remember there is always somebody who might be that bit harder than you think you are and that bit madder,meaning you can be severly hurt, stabbed or even end up dead


Have I missed something or is this a threat directed at someone? :confused:

[Dappa D]

Have I missed something or is this a threat directed at someone? :confused:

see talks and issues.....

[Speedy Claire]

ok, will do and thanks :D

[Dan]

Have I missed something or is this a threat directed at someone? :confused:

I would say that was probably a bit of an overreaction. I just read it as someone concerned for others wellbeing giving everyone a timely reminder that these days, just having a pop at someone can get you stabbed.

[Speedy Claire]

I would say that was probably a bit of an overreaction. I just read it as someone concerned for others wellbeing giving everyone a timely reminder that these days, just having a pop at someone can get you stabbed.

I can hardly be accused of over reacting!!!!! Maybe you`d read the threads concerned in talks and issues whereas I hadn`t so therefore logging on and just reading that out of the blue was a bit of a shock but in my book not an over reaction

[Dappa D]

oh i see....i read it quick and thought it said "thread directed at someone" not threat....

i wasnt implying dt was threatening anyone in any way lol!

[Dan]

I can hardly be accused of over reacting!!!!! Maybe you`d read the threads concerned in talks and issues whereas I hadn`t so therefore logging on and just reading that out of the blue was a bit of a shock but in my book not an over reaction

I hadn't read the other thread, but I am doing now. I still think that unless you read the OP in a particularly negative light, it comes across as perfectly innocent.

Maybe I just have a very sunny outlook on things, and see the good in people?

[missyburd]

The road is no place for aggression. Unfortunately it's a very difficult thing for some people to control. If I get angry I tend to walk off somewhere and try to cool off. If I ever got angry on the road I would almost certainly pull over as soon as possible and do the same, I would consider myself a risk to not only myself but other road-users so would be the best thing to do IMO.

I realise the OP is referring to aggression in general but as it was an incident on the road that I assume prompted the posting of the thread hopefully you won't mind :-P

[Dicky Ticker]

The intent was for wellbeing,not a pop at anybody. Of late there seems to be quite a few threads where aggressive behavior has been to the fore and it was meant as a gentle reminder that there are dangerous people out there who may retaliate in an over the top manner,you never know who they are

[Speedy Claire]

I hadn't read the other thread, but I am doing now. I still think that unless you read the OP in a particularly negative light, it comes across as perfectly innocent.

Maybe I just have a very sunny outlook on things, and see the good in people?


It`s difficult to read negative words like that in any way other than negatively!!

I try to read all posts in a non judgemental way and I also like to have a sunny outlook. I`m not really concerned about whether it`s right or wrong to be shocked by the wording of the post. I hate violence, in fact i`m really scared of violent people or seeing violent acts. Aggressive people also make me panic, it might just be a female thing I don`t know but whether you agree with my reaction or not the original post shocked ME and that`s all really!

And i`m relieved to realise that it was nothing to be concerned over.

[Speedy Claire]

The intent was for wellbeing,not a pop at anybody. Of late there seems to be quite a few threads where aggressive behavior has been to the fore and it was meant as a gentle reminder that there are dangerous people out there who may retaliate in an over the top manner,you never know who they are


I understand where you`re coming from now... sorry I misunderstood you originally and yes, I totally agree with you

[fizzwheel]

Seems to me that some people on the site like to suggest aggression is the answer to lifes daily problems.

I dont think its just the forum that that happens with, I read it on other forums and I see it in everyday life all the time.

Sometimes its hard to turn the other check and walk away, its certainly much harder than reacting with violence or temper loss.

I'm also of the opinion that alot of what people post they would do is bravado and its not actually what they'd do faced with a real life situation.

[DanAbnormal]

I say kill them all.

[Bluepete]

I'm also of the opinion that alot of what people post they would do is bravado and its not actually what they'd do faced with a real life situation.

I agree Fizz. If people really did react to me at work in the way that has been posted a fair few time recently, there would be a lot more people getting locked up and I would be having a lot more scraps!

People can post on t'interweb their real feelings, safe in the knowlege that we are allowed to express those opinions. It seems to be a way of releasing the tensions that build up every day without resorting to violence, it's bluster.

Sometimes it boils over and people over react, that's life, it keeps me in a job after all!

Pete.

[Ceri JC]

I'm also of the opinion that alot of what people post they would do is bravado and its not actually what they'd do faced with a real life situation.

Reminds me of an Ogri cartoon where Malcolm describes what he'd do to a bike thief, then we see what he actually does the next day when he catches someone stealing his bike. :D

WRT the OP, I agree. Losing your temper is almost inevitable, but making a habit of it ratchets up the odds of you coming across that one lunatic who'll have you. The thing that I always try and remember is that if they act like a **** to me, they'll probably act like a **** to other people and eventually one of them will be a similar nutter who will deal with them in kind. I've always tried to maintain this philosophy, if only in the selfish interests of self preservation. I found it easier to follow in practice after I very nearly wet myself laughing when I saw someone who had forced me off the road 3 minutes previously put their car on its roof. I've since seen first hand two other seperate incidents of people who drove/rode like ****s crashing/damaging their cars/bike immediately after, as well as marginally less satisfying incidents of them being flashed by cameras, pulled by police, etc.

In motoring at least, they seem to get their commupance. In the rest of life, it's a bit less clear cut. I see idiots every day where I live who get away with antisocial behaviour and the failed police/justice system do nothing about it. The perpetrators know who the lunatics who'll batter them for it are and behave when they're around, so they continue to get away with it. I sort of feel that these are the only situations where resorting to aggression/violence might actually be justified. Still, live by the sword, die by the sword. In real life it is very rare that I'll be drawn into fistcuffs, but when I have been forced into it, I've never regretted it. ;)

[DanAbnormal]

I agree Fizz. If people really did react to me at work in the way that has been posted a fair few time recently, there would be a lot more people getting locked up and I would be having a lot more scraps!

People can post on t'interweb their real feelings, safe in the knowlege that we are allowed to express those opinions. It seems to be a way of releasing the tensions that build up every day without resorting to violence, it's bluster.

Sometimes it boils over and people over react, that's life, it keeps me in a job after all!

Pete.


Well let's be honest, most of the time if we've been pulled over it's because we've done something to draw attention to our riding/driving. It's why I am always curteous and as helpful as I can be if pulled over. If you start ranting from the getgo I am sure you'll get more than you bargained for.

[dizzyblonde]

There are ways and means of getting your agression out without hitting somebody, or on the roads, blah blah.
People who know me, know that I get seriously agitated at a whole boat load of stuff, I'm like a pressure cooker. I collect little things that annoy me and then they go boooooooooom. I can get very flippant with people close without even noticing.

If people feel so outwardly aggressive towards others I say get councelling for it. Sometimes those that aren't usually aggressive just end up being because of lifes stresses. Theres a whole load of different ways to deal with anger, than thumping folk, or even suggesting aggressive behaviour on here.

[Stu]

Well let's be honest, most of the time if we've been pulled over it's because we've done something to draw attention to our riding/driving. It's why I am always curteous and as helpful as I can be if pulled over. If you start ranting from the getgo I am sure you'll get more than you bargained for.
I'm an :smt083 They're just out to get me :smt102

[phil24_7]

I sit on the fence on this issue as I have little man syndrome, can have a short fuse but I have had jobs in the past where I must remain calm... If only for the CCTV!

I'm a fan of preemptive strikes, especially against larger foe as it usually surprises them enough for me to get the upper hand. On the other hand, I may be talking a load of old twaddle!! :-)

[Balky001]

I usually take all the 'If they did that to me' or 'you showed a lot of restraint because I would have...' comment with a pinch of salt. Often the people that make others angry in real life are the people you don't want to mess with so saying you're going to smash them up is probably unlikely or unwise. That said, if anyone messes with me........ I'll get my mum

[yorkie_chris]

It's internet bluster, why so sensitive?

[davepreston]

he possibly meet someone like me who actualy carries out thier actions (thats why im in anger management) but yes relax my friend in the real world people act very different that they say

[gruntygiggles]

Well, me and Stretchie, riding up the ring road last summer watched as a bloke in a red left hand drive pontiac was weaving lanes, cutting up traffic and being a d*ck. When we pulled up nect to them at the roundabout, we both kind of shook our helmets at eachother, to which the guy and his rather vocal wife took exception. MISTAKE. We weren't exactly being aggressive, just a head shake, but this guy then pretty much stalked us the whole way up the ring road. Stretchie would put the gas on on the straights as a "you'll never beat a bike" gesture, but we kept getting red light, tried the go slow and not get involved approach and the guy drove so close to the back of the bike I was genuinely scared and and it takes a lot to rattle my nerves. At the next lights, I told Stretchie to ride the bike straight to Staple Hill Police station and with that, the pontiac pulled up and guy that looked like he's been on a sunbed for a year liftinf weights and getting waxed! He was screaming at Stretchie to get off the bike and "settle this", to which Dan just said, "sorry mate, I'll never shake my head again" After a few apologies with sarcasm diguised well enough that the thick tw*t couldn't recognise it and off he drove.

Now, I have no doubt that he would never have actually left his car and if Dan had got off the bike, he would have probably driven off. BUT......just a simple shake of the head between me and Dan at an idiot driver and we ended up at risk. The guy was a maniac and we felt so vulnerable, I was angry for days afterwards. I didn't let the police know because we lived very nearby at the time and I didn't want him to come and do anything the bike/house, but my god, some people need to learn to control themselves.

Wow....long post but message......if you're on a bike, be careful who you give dissaproving looks or head shakes at!

[Daimo]

Seems to me that some people on the site like to suggest aggression is the answer to lifes daily problems. Rage temper,or just their stupidity, whatever you want to call it,just remember there is always somebody who might be that bit harder than you think you are and that bit madder,meaning you can be severly hurt, stabbed or even end up dead


So what....

Bring it on. I may get a kicking if a situation came up, but I wouldn't go down without giving some serious pain back :batman:

[ophic]

I think its a fine line. You can be too aggressive, but also always being in fear of the actions of others does nothing to help society either. Some people learn that just because they are aggressive, no-one will stand up to them.

Mobile phones which record video can be more effective than a direct confrontation sometimes.

[petevtwin650]

So what....

Bring it on. I may get a kicking if a situation came up, but I wouldn't go down without giving some serious pain back :batman:

What you don't realise that you may not have a chance to defend yourself. A side swipe from a vehicle is all it needs. Or pushing you along in traffic. Or pushing you over whilst astride the bike and the bike lays on top of you.

[Daimo]

:lol: I'd already be off the bike before then.

You say I may not have a chance to defend myself, but then the same goes for the other person, situation etc......

50/50 chance. I like the odds. Im a calm bloke, just do NOT p1ss me off :lol:

[dizzyblonde]

I had an incident a couple of weeks back with an Audi car man. I'd had a little clutch trouble, so I was already rather annoyed with myself and the bike. Was sat at a red light waiting for it to go, it did, so rode across the box junction(a tad slow but.....) saw mr Audi up my ****, and promptly indicated that I was to go into the right hand lane, just to get some room. Now you see I know that its pretty much garanteed that the next set of lights a couple of yards down the road are going to go red, before we hit em. Looked in my mirror and hes nigh on driving the central reservation to get past me, as we hit the bit that I could get in lane on, so in my infinite wisdom flicked him a V as he was nigh on parallel with my leg by this point. I couldn't go anywhere as there was a car in front of me. I don't like aggressive drivers that think they can bully you out of the way, but then get angry myself, stupidly.
I almost thought that I'd got away with it, but the lights turned red, like they were likely to do. The git got out of his car, and I thought yep you dizzy cow your going to get thumped now, he came over mouthing his gob off, and then kinda gave a double take when he realised that there was this lass sat there on a big bike, with a girly helmet on, wearing pink camo's and an action man on the rack!
We exchanged words along the lines of, do you really have to try knocking me off, you were too slow, well my clutch is knackered, blah blah, F off back in your Audi car overweight ****. I then get upset with myself for bowing to their level. But then I've said before, I am prone to angry outbursts, but 9/10 I'm pretty easy going and passive.

[Daimo]

I'd love that.

Big thinks he's hard fat boy car driver gets out acting the big hard man. Comes over f-ing and blinding...

Then see's a women and realises what a complete bell end he's just made of himself. Then the women goes into one about the bloke being a ****, can't driver, arrogent etc.

Alsow best said at full voice volume so EVERYONE can hear this overweight goon bag getting flamed by a bird on a bike.

That, well I think i'd even pay money to see that :lol:

[STRAMASHER]

Seems to me that some people on the site like to suggest aggression is the answer to lifes daily problems. Rage temper,or just their stupidity, whatever you want to call it,just remember there is always somebody who might be that bit harder than you think you are and that bit madder,meaning you can be severly hurt, stabbed or even end up dead

Internet Charlie Bronsons:rolleyes::mrgreen:.

[dizzyblonde]

I'd love that.


That, well I think i'd even pay money to see that :lol:

Well white van man that pulled up behind me thought it were funny:rolleyes: he was sat arms over steering wheel, looked like he were enjoying the show:oops: