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AndyW
18-03-09, 03:15 PM
While checking my tyres yesterday and admiring my untouched (after 1.5 years!) chicken strips, I thought it would be nice if the tyre companies gave a discount on the next set of tyres if you still had chicken strips left, say 2% per mil.

Save me a small fortune and promote safer (well slower anyway) biking.

Just a thought and now I'm curious what response this will provoke.

Alpinestarhero
18-03-09, 03:26 PM
Firstly, i notice by your sig you have a topbox

woooo

ok, secondy, the topic of the thread

Safer riding dosn't come from how much chicken strips you have left...just because you dont lean, it dosnt mean you dont gun it along every straight getting into three figures and brake hard before wobbling around the next turn...

Safe riding is financially rewarded by

1) not having to fork out for a new bike

2) not having to fork out for new riding kit

3) not having to fork out to repair parts that you have trashed from shoddy, unsafe riding

4) not having to pay increasing insurance premiums

Thingus
18-03-09, 03:41 PM
If you're not a safe biker i would imagine that starts pretty soon after your head becomes imbedded in a road sign. I lean a bit, it increases confidence (in me anyway). Going 15mph around every corner to get cheaper tyres wouldn't promote safety anyway, kinda the opposite.
Just opinions, hah :p

Viney
18-03-09, 03:50 PM
While checking my tyres yesterday and admiring my untouched (after 1.5 years!) chicken strips, I thought it would be nice if the tyre companies gave a discount on the next set of tyres if you still had chicken strips left, say 2% per mil.

Save me a small fortune and promote safer (well slower anyway) biking.

Just a thought and now I'm curious what response this will provoke.
I loose most of my chicken strips riding in london and leaning the bike, so that throws the theory out of the window!

chompy
18-03-09, 03:52 PM
how about not riding at all would save your self the cost of a new tyre / tyres

i would say im a safe rider, my dad teaches me safe riding. i dont have chicken strips on one side and a small amount on the other side, it the same with my dad who has done his IAM test, and is doin ghis rospa. I dont think it promotes safe riding

my opinion anyway :D:D:D

Stig
18-03-09, 03:52 PM
Topbox, IAM and chicken strips. :lol:

I'll say no more. :wink:

injury_ian
18-03-09, 04:16 PM
I think you should be FINED for not using all of the tyre... not very green is it, land filling all that unused rubber?? you should feel ashamed!

P.S. I'd like to add, I'm IAM with no top box, no chicken strips....

AndyW
18-03-09, 04:53 PM
I _like_ my top box. No putting the helmet on the ground and having a dog relieve itself in the vicinity while off buying a mug of tea and bacon butty. Or carrying the helmet around with me when I have to just stop off at the bank or whatever.
I am sure you can tell me how 'parfum eau du chien' is part of a real biking experience.

I am too slow round sharp corners in a 30, and tend to do 90 degrees at 15mph.
I also tend to stick at speed limit+10 (indicated) and don't slow for most corners when in a 40+. Don't have any problem keeping up with others on my (rare) rideouts though, including twisties. I don't need to work the chicken strips at all.
I freely admit I'm not a speed merchant and quite happily trundle round at well below what the bike is capable of, but then thats one of the reason why I haven't gone out and bought a shiny new ZZR 1400 ABS for 8k with 0% finance. (Speed limited? Only a 187? Pah, get a real bike!) Of course, part of that is also the reason I'm still alive, never had a bone breakage from an off, and got all my no claims.

Tyres make great bases for new roads, so I'm supporting better road building by leaving rubber on it :P

More seriously, wiping out the chicken strips can be done perfectly safely but generally isn't. Some numpty decides its a badge of courage to completely get rid of them and totals the bike and/or himself trying.

Sally
18-03-09, 05:01 PM
Chicken strips dont have to be wiped off by excessive/illegal speeds.

How is keeping chicken strips promoting safe riding?

AndyW
18-03-09, 05:10 PM
Last sentence of above.
Also, think about why there are there chicken strips on the tyres. Manufacturing defect or deliberately put there? Why?

Sally
18-03-09, 05:11 PM
The bike has not been leaned over enough to wearthe rubber down.

Neeja
18-03-09, 05:38 PM
Last sentence of above.
Also, think about why there are there chicken strips on the tyres. Manufacturing defect or deliberately put there? Why?

When tyres are made they have a layer of manufacturing residue left on them so they don't stick to the mould. Once they're put on the bike, the residue is worn away with use.

The centre of the tyre has it worn off quickly as you're using that section for riding in a straight line. The edges of the tyres don't get used by most people, so you end up with strips where the residue doesn't wear off.

I got new tyres fitted 2 weeks back, and have no chicken strip on the right hand side of my tyre. I've not ridden like an idiot at all, but where I work has a lot of roundabouts on NSL roads - if it's clear, it's easy to swing around them at 40 as they've all got excellent visibility. Nothing dangerous about it, but lots of lean to use all of the tyre.

Swin
18-03-09, 07:05 PM
I'm putting a top box on my SV soon - a friend of mine was injured when he went over the bars of his ER6 stopping for a kid who'd run out into the road - he landed on the rucksack he was wearing. He was wearing a proper jacket with a decent back protector which, thank goodness, prevented him from suffering any serious damage

Stig
18-03-09, 07:48 PM
I _like_ my top box. No putting the helmet on the ground and having a dog relieve itself in the vicinity while off buying a mug of tea and bacon butty. Or carrying the helmet around with me when I have to just stop off at the bank or whatever.
I am sure you can tell me how 'parfum eau du chien' is part of a real biking experience.

I am too slow round sharp corners in a 30, and tend to do 90 degrees at 15mph.
I also tend to stick at speed limit+10 (indicated) and don't slow for most corners when in a 40+. Don't have any problem keeping up with others on my (rare) rideouts though, including twisties. I don't need to work the chicken strips at all.
I freely admit I'm not a speed merchant and quite happily trundle round at well below what the bike is capable of, but then thats one of the reason why I haven't gone out and bought a shiny new ZZR 1400 ABS for 8k with 0% finance. (Speed limited? Only a 187? Pah, get a real bike!) Of course, part of that is also the reason I'm still alive, never had a bone breakage from an off, and got all my no claims.

Tyres make great bases for new roads, so I'm supporting better road building by leaving rubber on it :P

More seriously, wiping out the chicken strips can be done perfectly safely but generally isn't. Some numpty decides its a badge of courage to completely get rid of them and totals the bike and/or himself trying.

Blimey. Bait well and truely taken. Only messing with you fella. Don't sweat it. You can ride around as slowly as you want to with no complaint from me. :wink:

G
18-03-09, 08:06 PM
To mention or be thinking about chicken strips you must surely therefore be bothered about them.

http://super-genius.org/images/thread_sucks.jpg

injury_ian
18-03-09, 08:10 PM
Pmsl

nakedblue650
18-03-09, 09:14 PM
Sell your bike, drive a car - no chicken strips and a dull life to match your percentages! How much discount would you get 20-30%?
With life being a bit carp for a lot of people right now why try to remove the last bastion of enjoyment for us?

Can anyone tell I have had a rubbish day?

nb650

AndyW
18-03-09, 09:24 PM
Blimey. Bait well and truely taken. Only messing with you fella. Don't sweat it. You can ride around as slowly as you want to with no complaint from me. :wink:

Lol. Sarcasm and irony aren't as easy to spot in the written word unless you look for it, especially if you aren't sure of my normal speech modes.
Subtle hint "admiring chicken strips" is not something I normally do.

Thanks for not messing but the only serious comment in that was the last sentence. Apart from I do like my topbox. Tried using a backpack and got sick of my arms going numb and getting pins and needles from the straps.

AndyW
18-03-09, 09:31 PM
Sell your bike, drive a car - no chicken strips and a dull life to match your percentages! How much discount would you get 20-30%?
With life being a bit carp for a lot of people right now why try to remove the last bastion of enjoyment for us?

Can anyone tell I have had a rubbish day?

nb650
Driven a car for over 30 years, thanks. Still have one and funnily enough I have had more speeding points for that than on my bike (over same period), despite the fact I go a lot faster on the bike. Erm I think my NCD on car is about 40% atm, might be higher, don't bother keeping track anymore. Weird how not having fault crashes can do that.

And where have I (or anyone else) said anything about stopping you riding as you want to?

I was having a boring day at work as well, but the boss is back tomorrow, so I'll be more bored and not able to read forums in the day.

nakedblue650
18-03-09, 09:37 PM
And where have I (or anyone else) said anything about stopping you riding as you want to?

You haven't! But encouraging people to ride in different manner for pence may be counter productive.

Sarcasm and irony aren't as easy to spot in the written word unless you look for it

Quite right

Can anyone tell I have had a rubbish day?

Sarcasm and irony aren't as easy to spot in the written word unless you look for it.

nb650

AndyW
18-03-09, 09:47 PM
To mention or be thinking about chicken strips you must surely therefore be bothered about them.

I also think about superstring theory, but that doesn't bother me. Saying that if you go to wikipedia and lookup fermi paradox, that should keep you awake all night.

flymo
19-03-09, 01:18 PM
chicken strips have no relation at all to the safety level of your riding.

Tyres should be made available at a fair competetive price at all times to everyone.